Time between bulk and cut?

[thecherries]

So for the last 12 weeks I've been running low test with various compounds leaning out. It looks like this:

1-8 175 prop, 400ish trenA
5-12 350 mastP
8-12 350prop, 350 npp

Over the 12 weeks I leaned out and added a lot of strength.

My next phase will be high test high-ish npp, with a dbol kick. Diet will be a surplus. The goal is to gain. My question is about the effectiveness of the compounds. How much time if any do I need to wait before going into the bulk phase to make sure I'm not chasing dosages the whole run. I would like to try something like 700prop, 525 npp for ten weeks.

Thoughts?

 

[gashred777]

So for the last 12 weeks I've been running low test with various compounds leaning out. It looks like this:

1-8 175 prop, 400ish trenA
5-12 350 mastP
8-12 350prop, 350 npp

Over the 12 weeks I leaned out and added a lot of strength.

My next phase will be high test high-ish npp, with a dbol kick. Diet will be a surplus. The goal is to gain. My question is about the effectiveness of the compounds. How much time if any do I need to wait before going into the bulk phase to make sure I'm not chasing dosages the whole run. I would like to try something like 700prop, 525 npp for ten weeks.

Thoughts?

Do you plan on cruising afterwards?


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[E32038]

So for the last 12 weeks I've been running low test with various compounds leaning out. It looks like this:

1-8 175 prop, 400ish trenA
5-12 350 mastP
8-12 350prop, 350 npp

Over the 12 weeks I leaned out and added a lot of strength.

My next phase will be high test high-ish npp, with a dbol kick. Diet will be a surplus. The goal is to gain. My question is about the effectiveness of the compounds. How much time if any do I need to wait before going into the bulk phase to make sure I'm not chasing dosages the whole run. I would like to try something like 700prop, 525 npp for ten weeks.

Thoughts?

700 prop is kinda unnecessary. it's going to aromatize like gangbusters and you won't see much difference between 500 and 700mg of test a week as far as actual gains.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

So for the last 12 weeks I've been running low test with various compounds leaning out. It looks like this:

1-8 175 prop, 400ish trenA
5-12 350 mastP
8-12 350prop, 350 npp

Over the 12 weeks I leaned out and added a lot of strength.

My next phase will be high test high-ish npp, with a dbol kick. Diet will be a surplus. The goal is to gain. My question is about the effectiveness of the compounds. How much time if any do I need to wait before going into the bulk phase to make sure I'm not chasing dosages the whole run. I would like to try something like 700prop, 525 npp for ten weeks.

Thoughts?

It is generally recognized that one need spend as much time off cycle as what one spent on cycle. I, for example, engage in two cycles per year; a bulking cycle from January 1 to April 1; and a cutting cycle between July 1 and October 1. The other six months is spent off cycle.

 

[gashred777]

700 prop is kinda unnecessary. it's going to aromatize like gangbusters and you won't see much difference between 500 and 700mg of test a week as far as actual gains.

100% agree. Additionally, you would want to wait cycle time + pct time before blasting again, unless you are going to cruise.


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[Eddie Haskell]

100% agree. Additionally, you would want to wait cycle time + pct time before blasting again, unless you are going to cruise.


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But please do not cruise.

 

[gashred777]

But please do not cruise.

I agree with Eddie Money 100%. Only saying that if you were already in blast and cruise mode.


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[stevesmi]

blood work bro. go get it done after pct is over.

 

[Mobster]

So for the last 12 weeks I've been running low test with various compounds leaning out. It looks like this:

1-8 175 prop, 400ish trenA
5-12 350 mastP
8-12 350prop, 350 npp

Over the 12 weeks I leaned out and added a lot of strength.

My next phase will be high test high-ish npp, with a dbol kick. Diet will be a surplus. The goal is to gain. My question is about the effectiveness of the compounds. How much time if any do I need to wait before going into the bulk phase to make sure I'm not chasing dosages the whole run. I would like to try something like 700prop, 525 npp for ten weeks.

Thoughts?

Take proper time off

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I agree with Eddie Money 100%. Only saying that if you were already in blast and cruise mode.


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I just knew that you weren't advocating "causing," gashred.

 

[muskate]

Run a PCT (I recommend the perfect PCT -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html

Take some time off, ideally run blood work done and then hit your next cycle

 

[dylangemelli]

time on PLUS PCT = time off and bro, there is NO REASON to be running test that high whatsoever

 

[Nismo99]

time on PLUS PCT = time off and bro, there is NO REASON to be running test that high whatsoever

One size doesn’t fit all. I know guys they run 500 T weekly and seeing 2900 T levels. When I run 500 weekly i am at 1300 T. I’ve always had to use larger doses even when I was on TRT i has to use the highest dose the office would allow and that only got me to about 400.

 

[dylangemelli]

One size doesn’t fit all. I know guys they run 500 T weekly and seeing 2900 T levels. When I run 500 weekly i am at 1300 T. I’ve always had to use larger doses even when I was on TRT i has to use the highest dose the office would allow and that only got me to about 400.

Thats a pretty damn extreme condition and im speaking on general cycling not when it comes to conditions like that


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[Nismo99]

Thats a pretty damn extreme condition and im speaking on general cycling not when it comes to conditions like that


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Which brings us back to nobody knows for sure until the blood is tested.

 

[dylangemelli]

Which brings us back to nobody knows for sure until the blood is tested.

Not sure what you mean. Thats evident snd pointed out on a daily basis


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[Nismo99]

Not sure what you mean. Thats evident snd pointed out on a daily basis


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My point is there is are a lot of declarative statements throw about as fact when often the truth lies somewhere in the middle. 750 mg of test weekly isn't always way too much. For some...it's too much, and for others it's not enough.

Maybe I am pointing out the obvious but I still think it's often overlooked there is no magic dosage that works for all. Proper blood testing is the way to dial things in for each one of us.

 

[dylangemelli]

My point is there is are a lot of declarative statements throw about as fact when often the truth lies somewhere in the middle. 750 mg of test weekly isn't always way too much. For some...it's too much, and for others it's not enough.

Maybe I am pointing out the obvious but I still think it's often overlooked there is no magic dosage that works for all. Proper blood testing is the way to dial things in for each one of us.

Ok man like i said, that gets pointed out daily but you can keep pointing it out because a lot of people dont listen but telling me something i point out probably ten times a day was what i was saying


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[Nismo99]

Ok man like i said, that gets pointed out daily but you can keep pointing it out because a lot of people dont listen but telling me something i point out probably ten times a day was what i was saying


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LOL..bro I wasn't pointed it out for your benefit...I know you are an expert and know your shit. It's for the majority of folks that have a very selective reading and retention capabilities.

 

[dylangemelli]

LOL..bro I wasn't pointed it out for your benefit...I know you are an expert and know your shit. It's for the majority of folks that have a very selective reading and retention capabilities.

Lmfao i get that!!


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