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Var gave me great strength.
Casca
bodybuilder
Tightened me up enough on the back end of my cycle, making me look deceptively bigger.
Pic is just near the end of cycle, 6 weeks on the back with AY VAR.
THE GREEN MACHINE
CASCA
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ive seen so many of my clients get HUGE size gains from tbol and it was pretty clean... there is SLIGHT water retention but its not much... anavar is obviously cleaner and will actually help to cut off some belly fat... both will provide big amounts of strength... side effects are fairly similar... both are toxic and highly methylated... its more or less whether you want more size or more definition... it would be great to kickstart with tbol and finish with anavar... make sure you use n2guard with either as they are both highly methylated...
TBol is absolutely incredible. But you also need to recognize what you will have to deal with while using one of them. Var is much safer on the liver than TBol, but TBol I feel will make you very happy.
Concerning liver toxicity, yes Anavar is a C17 modified substance, but it has actually been proven to be FAR safer for your liver than other C17 substances. Understand this is what makes it so the substance isn't deactivated when it passes through the liver. That said however, Anavar has been proven to cause far less stress on your liver. Its not as extensively metabolized by the liver as other orals with the same alteration. Furthermore, tests conducted have proven that even 1/3+ of the Anavar is STILL active by the time you piss it out. Tests have actually confirmed it causes the absolute least amount of liver stress than any other oral tested (which all were C17 modified from my understanding). In the test, it actually produced something like 75% less BSP than equal doses of the other compounds.
Something else interesting is when tests were performed on men suffering from AIDS taking Anavar, the tests actually proved there were no extreme signs of it causes liver stress. Ultimately it is far safer obviously. About 15% of the individuals at 80MG/day were documented at grade 3 and 4 toxicity according to AST and ALT. Compare this with any other oral substance modified the same, and that's fucking BEANS.
Concerning liver toxicity, yes Anavar is a C17 modified substance, but it has actually been proven to be FAR safer for your liver than other C17 substances. Understand this is what makes it so the substance isn't deactivated when it passes through the liver. That said however, Anavar has been proven to cause far less stress on your liver. Its not as extensively metabolized by the liver as other orals with the same alteration. Furthermore, tests conducted have proven that even 1/3+ of the Anavar is STILL active by the time you piss it out. Tests have actually confirmed it causes the absolute least amount of liver stress than any other oral tested (which all were C17 modified from my understanding). In the test, it actually produced something like 75% less BSP than equal doses of the other compounds.
Something else interesting is when tests were performed on men suffering from AIDS taking Anavar, the tests actually proved there were no extreme signs of it causes liver stress. Ultimately it is far safer obviously. About 15% of the individuals at 80MG/day were documented at grade 3 and 4 toxicity according to AST and ALT. Compare this with any other oral substance modified the same, and that's fucking BEANS.
mr.buffman
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I liked tbol. I was taking 75mg and had to cute back to 50mg. I was getting noise bleeds but the pumps and fullness was amazing.
certifiablyinsane
New member
Had a buddy run tbol at 100 and got almost unbearable reflux despite antacids. Got nose bleeds regularly too. Definitely one of the more underrated compounds.
bigbuffbastard
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$$$$$$both$$$$$$$
bigbuffbastard
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That's bcuz 100 is to high .. 60 is that sweet spot maan
steve dallas
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What dose and how long would you run the tbol? Going to be running it with some test c .
domestichgh
Banned
I would advise tbol.
I Just started using Tbol last week. Feeling strong strength gains in the gym and crazy pumps @50mg PD. I was going to go for VAR initially but went for Tbol as typically it appears Tbol is more of a mass builder and less harsh on the sex drive in comparison to VAR.
For this reason I felt it would better suit my goals and situation.
For this reason I felt it would better suit my goals and situation.
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