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I've google search, forum searched, and read for hours and can't seam to find anything on body weight effecting what dosage should/could be taken? I would assume that a 6' 6" 300lb guy would want/need more mg of say test e per week than a 150lb guy. I know everyone reacts differently and age, fitness level and experience all play a determining factor in dosage but am I wrong to assume that a bigger guy needs more mg than a smaller guy in general?
Gruntwerkz
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You may think a heavier guy made need more but blood work will show you that isn’t true, everyone can metabolize testosterone different.
For instance, I can take about 200mg a week and be around 1300 TT, my friend has about 20 pounds of lean mass on me and 200mg weekly puts him close to 2100 TT.
I’ve also seen big guys on TRT achieve a TT of 900 off only 100mg a week, where as I’d need more.
Blood work is the only way to know ho a dose is effecting you exactly.
the first time i started researching steroids i read that dosages should be increased based on weight, however based on my own personal experience where i have weighed 50 pounds different when using roids i can say it really doesn't matter. steroids will work on a 300 pound guy just like they would on a 150 pound guy. they are powerful hormones
I swear if I did not read this I would have posted the same exact thing.. my dude right here nail this on the money.. g spot right here..
An example would be I'm a low responder to test and at 200 I'm barely making over a thousand... Our bodies will process and metabolize things a lot different. I understand where you're going and an example would be an elephant would need a larger tranquilizer. but the reality is with us human beings regardless of the size it comes down to genetics and sensitivity. I seen some gorillas come back with super serums and others come back with mediocre serums. And the same applies for smaller frame dudes. Blood work is the only indicator on what protocol would work for you.
I'm going to give you a quotation and you need to remember this. This is not a one-size-fits-all way of life. You need to get blood work to find out where you're sensitive levels are. There is no gold standard, the gold standard with trt is just a template to begin with but adjustments are made there after with blood work.. the templates are just something to start with to initiate activity and from there after that's when endocrinologist dial things in.. you have to be your own doctor when it pertains to what you're taking and your blood work you have to dial things in.. I see guys taking these template layout cycles that are regurgitated left and right as if it's the gold standard for everybody.. it's a good place to start but it's not a permanent set protocol for everyone..
You are right. A bigger guy will need more drugs then a smaller guy, but not as much more as you would think.
I've really learnt this from training hundreds/thousands of people. You would think a big 300 pound guy would need twice as much food as a small 150 pound guy. Not at all. The larger you are, the more efficient your body becomes.
A 300 pound guy might need around 3500 calories where as a 150 pound guy might need 2500.
A 300 pound guy - 600mg/week, A 150 pound guy - 400mg/week.
I've really learnt this from training hundreds/thousands of people. You would think a big 300 pound guy would need twice as much food as a small 150 pound guy. Not at all. The larger you are, the more efficient your body becomes.
A 300 pound guy might need around 3500 calories where as a 150 pound guy might need 2500.
A 300 pound guy - 600mg/week, A 150 pound guy - 400mg/week.
It doesn't work like that. It would if we were using medicinal doses but we're using wayyyyy more than that
That makes sense to me. Then again, what Gruntwerkz wrote makes sense, too. Hmm...
Gruntwerkz
New member
Thanks brother and I couldn’t agree with rest of your post more.
I hate that most people live by the cookie cutter templates and never bother with blood work or adjusting things based on their needs.
I also hate the generic statement I see all the time on many boards saying “anything less than 500mg of test a week is a waste.” This is just following the first cycle template but it’s never that black and white, plenty of people can benefit from less then 500mg/wk. A good example could be the older crowd where their natural T levels are declining, or a hypogonadal make that has been low for some time, or even high responders. Myself for example, I respond pretty good to low doses and coming from a hypogonadal number I have seen awesome results off 300mg/wk myself.
Also the OP used the example of test-e for the drug, obviously we do know that certain oral medications can be weight dependent. Typically though this only applies to large variations in weight like comparing pediatric dosing on antibiotics to adults. Even the vast majority of standard medications are dosed evenly across adults, again antibiotics are the main example. Other wise looking at stuff like heart medications or blood pressure medications you are supposed to be doing the same type of stuff that we should be doing with AAS, meaning monitor yourself. So for medications like that you need to be checking BP and HR regularly and make adjustments accordingly.
But surely speaking about injectable AAS blood work has proven that weight isn’t a factor for dosing, everyone can respond and metabolize differently so the best way is blood work to determine how you’re effected and if you should increase or decrease dosage.
As high as I can get them before my Dr starts to question...lol
Nismo99
Active member
Was referring to those that self administer and monitor their ASS cycles.
I know I was being a smart..
But to answer your question, when I blast I like to be in the low 2000k... anything higher I'm getting nothing but sides, plus I have other work horses employed like orals and such
Nismo99
Active member
Anyone else want to comment on what test levels to target while on cycle? I've always shot for ~2500. When I keep my injection frequency very high...daily to EOD, I have no sides. If I stretch out the injection freq...I get really bad acne. I believe having the most stable levels is the key to avoiding sides. ED injections can be a pain, but I've made it work and with no side effects.
E32038
EVO V.I.P.
Nismo - I always read your posts. You know what you are doing and I like what you say. Logical and clear with common sense. Around 2500 for me is also a good number. I get leg acne. (Weird, right?). But back and face are ok. I will get face acne if I go much higher. But at 2500ish no sides.
Nismo99
Active member
Thank you sir for the positive feedback. The moral of this story is that one size DOES NOT fit all. Start with a "standard" sized cycle and then do bloodwork mid cycle. Adjust your dosages up or down based on the data in front of you. This is how I came up with my current cycle protocol. One person literally might need twice the dosage of the next guy to achieve a certain target. Said another way...some may need half the dosage. Only way to know is to do the testing on yourself.
Thank you brother!
E32038
EVO V.I.P.
Perfectly said. Same goes for PCT, cycle, bridging, compounds, AI, life!
