When and how?

[qaanda]

So here's the question. I want to peak out during the summer months (who doesnt?) I've been off for almost 2 months now, so the plan was at the beginning of March to run sust 250 and winni the cut a little with eca. But that puts me at mid may and couldn't run another till the end of July. So would I be better doing a 5 week cycle (not really fond of that) or should I run some sarms during pct at the beginning of June or just wait it out till may to get on the band wagon?

If it doesn't challenge you, it doesn't change you.

 

[muskate]

Why not do a 12 week SARMS cycle March April May and then a 12-16 week steroid cycle June July August September?

The SARMS will arguably help you cut up more then the steroid cycle would. That way, you will be extremely lean to start your cycle in June and can benefit from the increased muscle and fullness the cycle will provide, because you have already established the conditioning/body fat levels you want.

For the 12 week SARMS cycle I would do the triple stack (ostarine, cardarine GW + S4) + n2slin.

 

[Blueberryshake]

Lean bulk until end of April with sust and anadrol and may Jun July use prop mast and tren ace and winny.if you leave bulk right you won't gain any fat and will be lean enough that you can continue to get more shredded throughout the summer

 

[John Swift]

Lean bulk until end of April with sust and anadrol and may Jun July use prop mast and tren ace and winny.if you leave bulk right you won't gain any fat and will be lean enough that you can continue to get more shredded throughout the summer

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[qaanda]

My deal is somewhat that I'm not really caring about being super shredded come beach season but more or less wear the tank tops and be as swole as can be. It doesn't take much for me to cut the bloating off using clen and eca since they are both diuretics. I don't want to just keep cycling the gear either I don't like that 5 months of cycling. 2 and half months is plenty but trying to figure out when is my problem. This time I plan on running sust and winni for 2 and a half months. If I run e then I'll use dbol to kick it off.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Why not do a 12 week SARMS cycle March April May and then a 12-16 week steroid cycle June July August September?

The SARMS will arguably help you cut up more then the steroid cycle would. That way, you will be extremely lean to start your cycle in June and can benefit from the increased muscle and fullness the cycle will provide, because you have already established the conditioning/body fat levels you want.

For the 12 week SARMS cycle I would do the triple stack (ostarine, cardarine GW + S4) + n2slin.

This would be another good option. I did see you posted this somewhere else as well and got a good cycle of sust recommended there. Either option seems good in my opinion.

 

[qaanda]

This would be another good option. I did see you posted this somewhere else as well and got a good cycle of sust recommended there. Either option seems good in my opinion.

I think I'll stick with that. Go sarms for a few months then run my gear through the rest of the summer. Thanks for the help!

If it doesn't challenge you, it doesn't change you.

 

[LevButlerov]

My deal is somewhat that I'm not really caring about being super shredded come beach season but more or less wear the tank tops and be as swole as can be. It doesn't take much for me to cut the bloating off using clen and eca since they are both diuretics. I don't want to just keep cycling the gear either I don't like that 5 months of cycling. 2 and half months is plenty but trying to figure out when is my problem. This time I plan on running sust and winni for 2 and a half months. If I run e then I'll use dbol to kick it off.

Clenbuterol is not a diuretic, it is a simpathomimetic drug used to treat asthma, and you should use it with a lot of care for fat loss, since it was never meant for this purpose. As a consequence, it will cause a lot of side effects, and will also eat up your lean mass, nor only fat, as it is not catabolic in a selective manner. If you want something really good and safe for burning fat, opt for Cardarine GW - it was specifically designed for fat loss, and it will cause no side effects. Additionally, it will give a ton of benefits, which are unseen with such things as clenbuterol. You will can a considerably enhanced recovery and endurance, and will even gain some lean mass while losing fat. With N2Slin they make an increadible leaning combo.

 

[qaanda]

Seriously? It has anti catabolic properties and it may not be classified as a diuretic, but due to the increase in body temp you burn through and your body uses more water! It does all this through mitochondria. An on top of that pretty much every body builder who is going for a show will run it with other diureticS because it helps. I took it after 10 weeks test e 500 weekly and I knocked off the water weight in about five days. That's crazy talk. Once again I love sarms why are we still pushing n2slin this gets soooooo old so quick and I've only been on this forum for a week. How much can I get paid for mentioning sarms1 and n2slin with every post? I want in.

 

[ritchie]

Seriously? It has anti catabolic properties and it may not be classified as a diuretic, but due to the increase in body temp you burn through and your body uses more water! It does all this through mitochondria. An on top of that pretty much every body builder who is going for a show will run it with other diureticS because it helps. I took it after 10 weeks test e 500 weekly and I knocked off the water weight in about five days. That's crazy talk. Once again I love sarms why are we still pushing n2slin this gets soooooo old so quick and I've only been on this forum for a week. How much can I get paid for mentioning sarms1 and n2slin with every post? I want in.

Great post, I agree with everything you said. Clen kicks ass, only here you read the BS said it's not a good fat burner. LOL, ok, guess top pro's are wrong and shit for taking it, should have these guys as their prep coaches huh?

hahaha, sure!

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ag guys sells clen who is a site sponsor. so enough with the drama nonsense that this site is anti-clen. we all have our own opinions and it doesn't mean you are right or wrong for stating it.

I know a pro very personally (who is also a member on here but seldom posts) and he says clen is shit. he doesn't like it at all and he laughs that guys run it for fat loss. other guys love it. we all have our own opinions but to come out and say that clen 'kicks ass' is an OPINION. I have run clen and the sides were not worth it and I felt like I was having a heart attack on it. so no to me it doesn't kick ass. I would rather go running to get the same results without destroying my heart in the process.

 

[qaanda]

That's exactly what I'm saying! In comparison clen is Sooo much safer then any other cutting agent period. Well maybe not ephedrine but they are close. How can you just blast clen when it cuts fat boost metabolic rate increases body temp hardens muscle adds small amount of lean mass. My god and unlike winni it doesn't attach to your hairline...though not as good as winni but still don't blaze it when sarms were first synthesized in 1996 clen.....well my friend 1967 by the Germans.

 

[stevesmi]

That's exactly what I'm saying! In comparison clen is Sooo much safer then any other cutting agent period. Well maybe not ephedrine but they are close. How can you just blast clen when it cuts fat boost metabolic rate increases body temp hardens muscle adds small amount of lean mass. My god and unlike winni it doesn't attach to your hairline...though not as good as winni but still don't blaze it when sarms were first synthesized in 1996 clen.....well my friend 1967 by the Germans.

well that is your opinion. just cause clen worked great for you doesn't mean it does for everyone.. do a google for people complaining about how clen gave them horrible sides.

if you take clen and get great results without sides then good for you, but the majority of people the sides are just not worth it at all. I felt like I was having a heart attack on that shit and while I was working my hands would shake. I ran albuterol as well and if I raised the dosage up the same sides would start coming on.

 

[qaanda]

Yeah you are right I agree! That's not really what we are bashing, more or less that any time it is brought up you always get a post that says you shouldn't run clen it's dangerous. Run gw and n2slin. I'm not against those products but I'm not asking for advice on the clen.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ I will give you advice on clen anytime. I recommend you start low dosage and pyramid it up slowly to get to a max dosage that doesn't kill you. keep in mind it does have a longer half life then you realize so if you run too high a dosage you will regret it cause the sides won't go away for a couple days. there are articles on it on here you can check out that tell you more.

yes guys recommend n2slin or GW instead cause they are far safer and have way less sides for similar results.

I would tell you to run clen... see how you do on it. I've ran it twice and both times I have regretted it and swore I would never touch it again, I felt like I was letting myself down on it cause I could of upped my cardio instead for safer results

 

[ritchie]

the people who mess up clen were idiots. They all start off with too much, don't lower other stims. You're using other people's stupidity to validate your point of which you don't have.