Cycle Advice for Herniated Disc Recovery

[OUNick28]

Took about two years off to do physical therapy and recover from a herniated L5-S1 disc. Last time I was on here was back when BlackWidow was the cream of the crop haha.

Regardless, has anyone used anything when recovering from a lower back injury? I am a little hesitant to go full blown again, so want to reach out and see if anyone can shed some light on their experience. I heard NPP or Deca are easy on the joints... but I don't think it will have any impact on my situation.

If anyone has bad sciatica from a herniated disc... I am more than happy to help give some advice on the recovery... I did the non-surgery route.

 

[dylangemelli]

Took about two years off to do physical therapy and recover from a herniated L5-S1 disc. Last time I was on here was back when BlackWidow was the cream of the crop haha.

Regardless, has anyone used anything when recovering from a lower back injury? I am a little hesitant to go full blown again, so want to reach out and see if anyone can shed some light on their experience. I heard NPP or Deca are easy on the joints... but I don't think it will have any impact on my situation.

If anyone has bad sciatica from a herniated disc... I am more than happy to help give some advice on the recovery... I did the non-surgery route.

deca and npp have nothing to do with anything you have going on or ANY OTHER INJURY... they are simply band aids to a wound and do not heal anything... they are in simple terms, cushioning while you use them which does provide some temporary relief but often times, being they make an injury, it can make things worse when you stop taking them because you may be able to do more on an injury in terms of the pain and then injure it worse than it was..

hgh is going to be an obvious choice here but thats not always the answer... mk2866 and mk677 are my favorites for real healing benefits...

 

[Mobster]

You're not healing a knackered disc with gear. I say that as a guy with plenty of wear and tear on my discs. Enough to lay me up for 16 weeks back in 2016

 

[OUNick28]

You're not healing a knackered disc with gear. I say that as a guy with plenty of wear and tear on my discs. Enough to lay me up for 16 weeks back in 2016

Not looking for surgery in the form of AAS... just looking for advice on injury-conscious AAS advice.... for example... I will not be jumping on tren and mast anytime soon

 

[Mobster]

You mentioned rehab - so are you fully recovered?

 

[stevesmi]

Not looking for surgery in the form of AAS... just looking for advice on injury-conscious AAS advice.... for example... I will not be jumping on tren and mast anytime soon

I have 3 herniated discs and i guarantee if you had a typical gym rat do an MRI they would have disc issues. it is very common in weight training

steroids do not heal them, if that was the case with all the steroids i ran over the past decade i would have the strongest discs on the planet. what you have to do is improve your discs with decompression, flexibility and mobility. that would mean yoga. i would recommend easing off weight training for a while and focus just on yoga. and also do an inversion table daily. your discs will never fully heal, but you can ease them instead of making the issue worse. eventually if you keep pounding you will end up crippled and needing a very risky surgery

 

[cbbram]

I recommend being fully recovered before running a steroid cycle.

 

[OUNick28]

I have 3 herniated discs and i guarantee if you had a typical gym rat do an MRI they would have disc issues. it is very common in weight training

steroids do not heal them, if that was the case with all the steroids i ran over the past decade i would have the strongest discs on the planet. what you have to do is improve your discs with decompression, flexibility and mobility. that would mean yoga. i would recommend easing off weight training for a while and focus just on yoga. and also do an inversion table daily. your discs will never fully heal, but you can ease them instead of making the issue worse. eventually if you keep pounding you will end up crippled and needing a very risky surgery

Thanks Steve... as anyone with disc issues know... you never are fully recovered... but are fluctuating between various stages of management.

I did PT for 8 months and did only stretching and decompression for another 2 months.. and for the past year have worked my way back into weight training with intensity (except for leg workouts... I can only go heavy on machines one leg at a time).

I am about as recovered as anyone with a herniated disc that was in crutches for a week at it's peak can be... I am just a little nervous to get back on gear... on gear my intensity increases and my body is under more stress... would hate to aggravate the injury or cause further damage... however I know that there are more AAS and research chemicals out there than I can comprehend... was curious what people in similar situations have taken

 

[Mobster]

Thanks Steve... as anyone with disc issues know... you never are fully recovered... but are fluctuating between various stages of management.

I did PT for 8 months and did only stretching and decompression for another 2 months.. and for the past year have worked my way back into weight training with intensity (except for leg workouts... I can only go heavy on machines one leg at a time).

I am about as recovered as anyone with a herniated disc that was in crutches for a week at it's peak can be... I am just a little nervous to get back on gear... on gear my intensity increases and my body is under more stress... would hate to aggravate the injury or cause further damage... however I know that there are more AAS and research chemicals out there than I can comprehend... was curious what people in similar situations have taken

During my 16 weeks about 6 was using crutches.

 

[OUNick28]

During my 16 weeks about 6 was using crutches.

I only used them when I literally couldn't walk more than 10 ft without needing to sit down and stretch and decompress.

 

[RoySimpson]

Gear will not help your back here bro! Avoid the gear and focus on you recovery.

 

[stevesmi]

Thanks Steve... as anyone with disc issues know... you never are fully recovered... but are fluctuating between various stages of management.

I did PT for 8 months and did only stretching and decompression for another 2 months.. and for the past year have worked my way back into weight training with intensity (except for leg workouts... I can only go heavy on machines one leg at a time).

I am about as recovered as anyone with a herniated disc that was in crutches for a week at it's peak can be... I am just a little nervous to get back on gear... on gear my intensity increases and my body is under more stress... would hate to aggravate the injury or cause further damage... however I know that there are more AAS and research chemicals out there than I can comprehend... was curious what people in similar situations have taken

the problem with PT's and I have argued this on here is that they are OBSESSED with strength imbalances and strenghtening your back muscles etc. they don't grasp as weight lifters WE ALREADY ARE STRONG!! so really it is a waste of $$$ going to these idiots who are more geared to dealing with 65 year olds who can barely pick up their dry cleaning.

also chiropractors don't get me started. a complete scam. cracking your back does not help with discs either, they release gases which might make you feel good for a minute but they actually do more harm than good.

hot yoga and inversion table is the answer here. combined with avoiding weight training or training super light

 

[Super User 4]

the problem with PT's and I have argued this on here is that they are OBSESSED with strength imbalances and strenghtening your back muscles etc. they don't grasp as weight lifters WE ALREADY ARE STRONG!! so really it is a waste of $$$ going to these idiots who are more geared to dealing with 65 year olds who can barely pick up their dry cleaning.

also chiropractors don't get me started. a complete scam. cracking your back does not help with discs either, they release gases which might make you feel good for a minute but they actually do more harm than good.

hot yoga and inversion table is the answer here. combined with avoiding weight training or training super light

Totally agree that yoga can help, I had two herniated discs at one time and after recovering a little I started with some hot yoga and at the very beginning was a little difficult cause my back was to stiff but after a month or so you can tell that it does helps little by little your discs as well as elasticity and it strengthen my back as well. I 100% would recommend some yoga just as you said

 

[OUNick28]

Totally agree that yoga can help, I had two herniated discs at one time and after recovering a little I started with some hot yoga and at the very beginning was a little difficult cause my back was to stiff but after a month or so you can tell that it does helps little by little your discs as well as elasticity and it strengthen my back as well. I 100% would recommend some yoga just as you said

Interesting. I used to do Hot Yoga (Flow at LifeTime Fitness) everyday before I injured my back. I am a little scared to get back to it since some of the poses/movements shoot down my leg. However, I guess you eventually get over the hump.

On a different note, has anyone here had the micro-discectomy surgery on their lumbar? My friend owns a spinal implant device company... so I have been holding off on surgery since I know this is a field where technological innovation will significantly increase the quality of care in the coming years. I am holding off until it is literally unbearable... hopefully by then technology will be to the point where it isn’t a coin flip on whether you improve or not... (Ex. Better artificial disc or surgery techniques)

 

[stevesmi]

Interesting. I used to do Hot Yoga (Flow at LifeTime Fitness) everyday before I injured my back. I am a little scared to get back to it since some of the poses/movements shoot down my leg. However, I guess you eventually get over the hump.

On a different note, has anyone here had the micro-discectomy surgery on their lumbar? My friend owns a spinal implant device company... so I have been holding off on surgery since I know this is a field where technological innovation will significantly increase the quality of care in the coming years. I am holding off until it is literally unbearable... hopefully by then technology will be to the point where it isn’t a coin flip on whether you improve or not... (Ex. Better artificial disc or surgery techniques)

bikram yoga bro and talk to the instructor beforehand. they are typically extremely knowledgeable and experienced when it comes to this sort of thing. in fact many are former cheerleaders, dancers, bodybuilders, weightlifters, athletes themselves who ended up in our boat too so they know exactly your issue and can guide you through it. that is why you are paying them

 

[Super User 4]

Interesting. I used to do Hot Yoga (Flow at LifeTime Fitness) everyday before I injured my back. I am a little scared to get back to it since some of the poses/movements shoot down my leg. However, I guess you eventually get over the hump.

On a different note, has anyone here had the micro-discectomy surgery on their lumbar? My friend owns a spinal implant device company... so I have been holding off on surgery since I know this is a field where technological innovation will significantly increase the quality of care in the coming years. I am holding off until it is literally unbearable... hopefully by then technology will be to the point where it isn’t a coin flip on whether you improve or not... (Ex. Better artificial disc or surgery techniques)

Yeah at the beginning is a little scary but once you see how your body reacts to it and everything you'll see is way easier than it seemed. And just as Stevesmi said, let the instructor know about it and they will give you guidance on it and what to do and what not to do in terms of how to stretch and stuff

 

[stevesmi]

^^ exactly becoming a bikram yoga instructor is 100X harder than being a personal trainer at LA fitness (really PT's are sales people, not really trainers anyway). for one it involves reading books and actually putting in the hours first, and it is quite expensive to do it and involves months of school. so these people are serious as fuck about their stuff.

 

[Super User 4]

^^ exactly becoming a bikram yoga instructor is 100X harder than being a personal trainer at LA fitness (really PT's are sales people, not really trainers anyway). for one it involves reading books and actually putting in the hours first, and it is quite expensive to do it and involves months of school. so these people are serious as fuck about their stuff.

Totally agree specially on the part that pt's are sales people really

 

[OUNick28]

^^ exactly becoming a bikram yoga instructor is 100X harder than being a personal trainer at LA fitness (really PT's are sales people, not really trainers anyway). for one it involves reading books and actually putting in the hours first, and it is quite expensive to do it and involves months of school. so these people are serious as fuck about their stuff.

Lifetime Fitness... get it right lol... I can’t stand LA Fitness

All jokes aside tho you are correct about most gym instructors at large gym franchises.... the yoga instructors at my gym are just hot single Milfs that took a weekend class and now just copy the class that they went to.... every single “instructor” has the exact same class and is just a pretty face to get likeminded people to go to their class.

 

[RickRock]

Took about two years off to do physical therapy and recover from a herniated L5-S1 disc. Last time I was on here was back when BlackWidow was the cream of the crop haha.

Regardless, has anyone used anything when recovering from a lower back injury? I am a little hesitant to go full blown again, so want to reach out and see if anyone can shed some light on their experience. I heard NPP or Deca are easy on the joints... but I don't think it will have any impact on my situation.

If anyone has bad sciatica from a herniated disc... I am more than happy to help give some advice on the recovery... I did the non-surgery route.

No steroid or compound is going to help herniated discs. Trust me I have the same issue at L5-S1. I had a nerve ablation done about 3 years ago and have been pretty much pain free ever since. It doesnt fix the problem but the pain is gone and I avoid things that aggravate it like squats and deadlifts

 

[OUNick28]

No steroid or compound is going to help herniated discs. Trust me I have the same issue at L5-S1. I had a nerve ablation done about 3 years ago and have been pretty much pain free ever since. It doesnt fix the problem but the pain is gone and I avoid things that aggravate it like squats and deadlifts

You ever try a micro-discectomy? Or did you go straight to the nerve ablation?

 

[stevesmi]

Lifetime Fitness... get it right lol... I can’t stand LA Fitness

All jokes aside tho you are correct about most gym instructors at large gym franchises.... the yoga instructors at my gym are just hot single Milfs that took a weekend class and now just copy the class that they went to.... every single “instructor” has the exact same class and is just a pretty face to get likeminded people to go to their class.

yeah man you gotta find a good quality studio for that, it is going to be far and beyond what you will find at a gym class.