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the_waco_kid
Buff Brother
If you have pure pharm test I think 300-400 is enough. Assuming you do not, I'd go 500-600.
10 weeks
1-10 test E 500 per week
1-4 dbol
(again always quality concerns so it is hard to say how to dose dbol. I'd start at 25 and move towards 50)
Short simple sweet. Great gains of size and strength.
10 weeks
1-10 test E 500 per week
1-4 dbol
(again always quality concerns so it is hard to say how to dose dbol. I'd start at 25 and move towards 50)
Short simple sweet. Great gains of size and strength.
phillip oliver
New member
Yeah it all depends on the dbol I have had some where 40 a day was good and than some bullshit pink ones where I was taking over 100 a day and didn't feel shit.
EZ_E
Buff Brother
x 2....don't forget your AI, OCT, & PCT
Just make sure that you have your Diet in Order, Dbol will give you Bloat........................... JP
P.S.
As far as dosing on the Dbol, it depends who made it, which UGL, some being much Better than others.
Test E - a Minimum of 200 Mg a Week, I would double that if your Test is 200 mg/ml, which it should be, to 400 mg a Week, 200 mg 2 x a week.
biltpa
New member
Then just stick to a low dose test. 400mg/wk would be more than sufficient
M_T pockets
New member
As a guys very 1st cycle frontloading wouldnt be a very smart idea. After 1st etc yea but 1st not the bravest move.
M_T pockets
New member
You can do 300mg or do 500mg like I will doing.
Hey yes a 100mg of test will give you enough to recover but I do not think that is what you are looking for. If you want strength gain and be able to hold on to muscle gain at least go 250mg-300mg at the least. I would only do 100mg if I were a top end sports athlete and was concerned about cardio more than muscle mass.
This.. at least 300mg..
Right on PowerCage - If your plan is to mass up and put on some muscle and work with intensity then Dbol kicker at around 30mg week 1-4 and 500mg of Test week 1-8 will have you unleashed.
AI - Aromasin or Armidex
Liver Support - TUDCA
AI - Aromasin or Armidex
Liver Support - TUDCA
In that case I would say 250-300mg of Test C pr E every week. Maybe Dbol is not what you want since it known to add on some water weight - think about Tbol because it will put on solid gain without the unwanted water weight.
biltpa
New member
Small... there comes a point where you have to decide, "Does this cycle or taking AAS in general, suit my needs?". If not, then don't do it. Don't rush into something with fears of gaining too much weight, pissing hot, etc.
You will more than likely just be wasting your time and money if you go with barely any test and dbol.
When you say you might get tested.. what kinds of tests are we talking about? Just a piss test? Bloods? You just said "steroids test". I'm just curious.
Well I agree with biltpa on this one. It’s up to you but if you are being tested then I think you should really consider running a cycle at all. If you do give yourself plenty of time to clear but if it was me being kicked out of win because I was positive I would ultra pissed off. In the end may not be worth it. If you were more specific about your sport or what your goal is then that might help.
biltpa
New member
It would really depend on your diet, training and PCT above all else... I've never run an oral only cycle, but from what I tend to hear, you lose a lot more than you would if you combined with test.
M_T pockets
New member
This is reason to read up as much you can but not just this forum but others that are top in their game.
