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Prove it. Then, when you can't prove it, officer and employer, watch out for the lawsuits.
Hey bro, you bought steroids from me. I can prove it. Here's the copy of the receipt! OK Whitney Houston.
Prove it. Then, when you can't prove it, officer and employer, watch out for the lawsuits.
Hey bro, you bought steroids from me. I can prove it. Here's the copy of the receipt! OK Whitney Houston.
International = dangerous, simple as that IMO.
Hell, let's just tell the whole truth. Ready? Buying (or selling) illegal drugs = dangerous, simple as that IMO.
It's really pretty fucking silly to sit here and debate over which way is more safe than the other.
You guys don't want to take a chance at getting busted and/or going to jail? Don't fucking break the law. Simple huh?
lol @ all this.
hugeNelson
Growing Brother
IMHO, the guys pushing domestic don't fully comprehend risks of ordering domestic. Everyone has the freedom to do whatever, but why risk it.
bust who? Dealers? Labs? OK, sure. Small time buyers, spending $200-300 or so? Not likely. They really aren't after little end users, and I don't know why some people ITT are trying to get people to believe they are. They want dealers, suppliers, etc. Big fish. I can pull up many articles of busts of labs, but the "setups" and subsequent busts of all the little, small time end users? I can't seem to find all the hundreds and thousands of those that follow these UG lab or domestic remailer busts, bros. So you guys that are so god damn certain that it happens and sooooo many bros' lives are ruined, please...post em up! Prove it.
And that bro's statement about some local gym steroid dealer snitching on all his customers? LOL! They don't ask those guys who all their customers are. They ask them where they are getting their stuff. LE wants to know who is supplying that dealer. And let's say that guy gives them a list of people who bought from them. They can't do a thing with it. It's not enough to get a warrant. And they are going to march into some guy's job just because some fucking drug dealer said that guy bought drugs from him? Give me a break. What happens when they can't prove any of that? Lawsuits, that's what.
So I keep giving you guys all solid and common sense reasons why 99% of the time LE isn't going to break down the door of a guy who at some point in time may or may not have bought 5 units of illegal drugs, but a few of you just keep saying the same shit over again about how much safer it is to buy illegal drugs from overseas and import them into the US, through customs. You're like a broken record.
So, prove your point. Or at least try. You haven't even done that.
Bottom line is that BOTH ways are illegal and BOTH ways have risks of being caught. If someone can't afford to take the risks, or just doesn't want to, then the choice is very simple. Don't do it.
Please elaborate then on the risk free way of ordering illegal drugs internationally. Tell us how to take away the risks and I'm certain we will all do it. lolol
D-Sand
Proficient Brother
Just because they haven't been active in going after guys after busts, it doesn't mean they won't start. It's much easier to bust a domestic source and get his customer list than an international. I mean you are right who knows, it's illegal either way, but domestic seems a bit dangerous to me. Wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of an ongoing investigation.
It honestly seems like a ridiculous waste of man power and money to span the country to go after a thousand bros after a domestic bust. Was it lexx labs or something a few years back that was busted domestically and they just went after their sources.
I could understand them scanning for distributors and exceeding large order customers in hopes of another dealer bust but to track me down across the country for my stack? Doesn't seem logical.
You have to think about it, a large bust would be feds, dea, atf and what not, they aren't concerned with us. There's no gain and a waste of money, man power, and time.
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bigMarti
Growing Brother
With technology the way it is, a few letters to workplaces would fix this problem. You don't want to be the IT engineer to get a letter coming to your company because a domestic source got busted.
all is illegal, but illegal at your door step?
With technology the way it is, a few letters to workplaces would fix this problem. You don't want to be the IT engineer to get a letter coming to your company because a domestic source got busted.
all is illegal, but illegal at your door step?
Really, you think LE sends letters to employers about this shit? Based on what grounds do they send these "letters"? They can't just be sending letters out because some AAS dealer has your contact information without having proof of you possessing AAS. You obviously have no clue how LE works and the bullshit they let slide especially right now with all the budget cuts nearly every department in the country went through. Illegal drugs are illegal drugs, neither domestic or international is fool proof and you could get busted. If the risk is not worth the reward for you then you should not being doing it.
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come on bro. You know how you see in all the movies and cop shows on TV, whenever they bust a drug dealer they always want them to list all their customers. They don't give a fuck about their suppliers. They are only after a bunch of little busts that could wind up getting them involved in hundreds of lawsuits.
They want to come all the way across the country, break down your door and come storming in with guns, scaring the shit out of your wife and kids...just on the off chance that you might still have 5 vials and 100 tablets of steroids that you may or may not have actually purchased from a drug dealer. Because if you already used it, or sold it, or for whatever reason you come up clean? They love the fact that you can bring a huge lawsuit against them. That's all they're about. They're just that stupid.
No, no bro. We got a bunch of fuckin Johnny Cochran, law experts up in this thread. These bros know for sure that LE is going to fire off letters to your employer and bust down your doors, storming through your house looking for a couple vials of steroids. They don't even need a warrant!!!! They're the motherfuck LAW!!!!
That's why you should only order international. There is absolutely zero risk involved in that. If you order international the rules all change too. On the off chance they do get your name from a list or something, apparently they can't touch you. 100% safe. I'm sure if you ask some of these bros telling you how safe international ordering of illegal drugs is, they will even be so helpful as to give you the best international source to order from 100% safely. *wink**wink*
I would love them to send my local a letter. Dear local 40, nsnmatty is on gear. It makes him more productive at work and stronger. Please fire him immediately for a two betas. Yes, we said two because you'll need the extra man to make up for firing him.
Sincerely,
The gov't
Illegal is illegal if you can take customs out of the equation, why not.
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Sincerely,
The gov't
Illegal is illegal if you can take customs out of the equation, why not.
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bigMarti
Growing Brother
I find it interesting that the same guys who are pushing domestic sources on the source forum here *cough cough* are saying international is dangerous.
Ordering domestic: Once (not IF!) your source is busted, all the shipping, customer information, payment information and your location is turned over to LE. They can choose to go after the customers and at some point they will, and what if you are considered a bulk buyer? You bought for 3-4 cycles and they think you reselling for the domestic. Get ready to get your ass busted by LE because you listened to some guys who are pushing domestic. Let's just sit and wait until the next bunch of domestic sources are busted and turn over all the customers. God I hope these guys here aren't ordering for more than 3 cycles because that's wholesale quantity = you're getting a visit by law enforcement.
International ordering: Worst thing that happens is your few bottles of test are seized or you never get them. Your source is less likely to hand information over as they are overseas and you're less likely to have problems.
Ordering domestic: Once (not IF!) your source is busted, all the shipping, customer information, payment information and your location is turned over to LE. They can choose to go after the customers and at some point they will, and what if you are considered a bulk buyer? You bought for 3-4 cycles and they think you reselling for the domestic. Get ready to get your ass busted by LE because you listened to some guys who are pushing domestic. Let's just sit and wait until the next bunch of domestic sources are busted and turn over all the customers. God I hope these guys here aren't ordering for more than 3 cycles because that's wholesale quantity = you're getting a visit by law enforcement.
International ordering: Worst thing that happens is your few bottles of test are seized or you never get them. Your source is less likely to hand information over as they are overseas and you're less likely to have problems.
"They (LE) can choose to go after the customers and at some point they will" ... Really? Your 100% sure of this? Doesn't that seem a little unlikely?
"I find it interesting that the same guys who are pushing domestic sources on the source forum here *cough cough* are saying international is dangerous." I haven't seen the mods pushing any particular lab so far... So I'm not sure what your implying.
And if you think the worst thing that can happen on INT orders is your package gets seized then LOL. Don't they still have your address? Would it really be that hard for them to track you down.. I find both scenarios ending in the end user getting busted unlikely.
Finally, with technology the way it is now if a domestic source wanted to keep his client info confidential there are about 1000 ways this could be done no matter how good their computer forensics lab guys are...
"I find it interesting that the same guys who are pushing domestic sources on the source forum here *cough cough* are saying international is dangerous." I haven't seen the mods pushing any particular lab so far... So I'm not sure what your implying.
And if you think the worst thing that can happen on INT orders is your package gets seized then LOL. Don't they still have your address? Would it really be that hard for them to track you down.. I find both scenarios ending in the end user getting busted unlikely.
Finally, with technology the way it is now if a domestic source wanted to keep his client info confidential there are about 1000 ways this could be done no matter how good their computer forensics lab guys are...
You must not be reading my posts carefully enough *cough cough* because I've said they are both dangerous.
I've known dom sources that have been sources for many years before "retiring" and never got busted, so IF (not once) your source gets busted, all the blah, blah info LE collects on customers...LE most likely won't do shit with. Know why? They can't prove any of it and they would be going on a bunch of wild goose chases. You really think that's enough to get a warrant? Think about it for a second. Any fool
Now, a buuuuuunch of people have ordered from plenty of dom sources that have been busted. Remember ORD? Maybe you weren't around back in 2007? Anyway, they busted a bunch of domestic UG labs and a couple of major international sources too. So, where are all the customers that got busted from ordering a couple of vials of gear? A whole lot of labs went down. Boards all started collecting lab names on lists. I think it was 40 some odd labs that went down. Man, that's a lot of customers. I guess LE is just waiting for the perfect time to pounce on all of them, huh? Maybe they have all of those thousands of customers under surveillance? I bet they do. Budget cuts be damned!
Come on bro, dig up some articles or something. Surely you can find evidence to back up your claim that all domestic sources get busted, and all customer info is always kept and ends up in the hands of LE, and "at some point LE absolutely WILL go after every single customer." Come on, Mr. legal expert! LOL!
Are there risks? Sure. Never said there wasn't. Just like there are risks with international.
I push domestic because it's easier, faster and no customs seizures where they may just put your address on a file that flags an alert for future international deliveries - yeah! what?.
Now shill your international source where you got that GP gear from. steroids market was it?
I order international because I don't trust homebrew, these toilet made UG labs all over USA produce nasty stuff. I got too many infections to even count. Hospital 2 times, nurse (my wifes sis) 5 times (drainage of abscess), and so on. I don't worry about customs, in my years of ordering not even 1 seizure. Though I was using domestic for at least 2-3 years before switching and no one busted me.
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I order international because I don't trust homebrew, these toilet made UG labs all over USA produce nasty stuff. I got too many infections to even count. Hospital 2 times, nurse (my wifes sis) 5 times (drainage of abscess), and so on. I don't worry about customs, in my years of ordering not even 1 seizure. Though I was using domestic for at least 2-3 years before switching and no one busted me.
What about domestics that already imported over sea brands?
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Just gotta make sure you're not getting fakes from reshippers who are buying rock bottom prices to have high margins.
so you're saying there are a lot of fakes floating around overseas? Like fake omnas, ICN galenikas, iranians, etc? Not to mention all that fake Bayer Primo? I totally agree with that.
A lot of that shit is sold by those overseas sources. Sure some of it has some real AAS in those counterfeit amps (Z called them replicas I believe?), but so much of it is just oil, or maybe very underdosed. That's why it pays to know your source.
It is amazing how many people here call domestic gear toilet trash, but what automatically assume because its Europe is some giant lab? Like I am so fucking sick of people calling ANY non pharmaceutical gear pharma grade. If it wasnt produced by Bayer Scherring or any of the other giant pharmaceuticals it is not pharma grade.
Same goes for assuming anything in the US is made in a toilet. These are underground illegal drugs being sold, people are not going to give you a tour of their process. One Bro on EF actually tried to argue his UG was GMP certfied. Are ytou fucking kidding me, do you know the definition of GMP?
I see all these 1ml amps coming out of crazy ass countries in Europe and I wouldnt touch them.
In the end just like PUDS says its up to the customer, but to just automatically qualify domestic as garbage is ignorance.
Same goes for assuming anything in the US is made in a toilet. These are underground illegal drugs being sold, people are not going to give you a tour of their process. One Bro on EF actually tried to argue his UG was GMP certfied. Are ytou fucking kidding me, do you know the definition of GMP?
I see all these 1ml amps coming out of crazy ass countries in Europe and I wouldnt touch them.
In the end just like PUDS says its up to the customer, but to just automatically qualify domestic as garbage is ignorance.
End of thread. Nothing else to see here folks
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When I was using Steris pharma grade test and vet grade EQ, I was doing great. Now, when I switched over to UG gear I got infections and horrible pains, you do the math.
i like domestic, i had goods seized 3 times already. int is too risky for me
Brother, I get Alpha-Pharma, Pharmacom and Vermodje gear in the states. Overseas gear, all delivered domestically. The best gear anywhere.
This is true. And like I have said all along, there are risks on both sides. You have to do the research and choose which risks are real and which you are more comfortable with as a consumer. Remember, it's all illegal either way.
Flip Digler
Advanced Cyborg Brother
Did I miss the part when the cops come to my house because of a package that was delivered and want me to name my source and I show them a website , what good is that going to do them ? You really think they care about me ?
Can U Dig it !
Can U Dig it !
hugeNelson
Growing Brother
more likely when a source snitches out all clients because he was busted domestically
Flip Digler
Advanced Cyborg Brother
At curious , any experience with that situation , what do the cops want with me , the user ? I understand balco and mlb , but not me !
All starting to make sense !
paja
Banned
They don't want you, they want the dealer
dude, they don't care and can't do shit about some drug dealer telling them, "hey this dude over here 2,000 miles away ordered $500 worth of steroids every 6 months."
That's not enough to get a warrant. You can't be serious with this shit, are you? This is some kind of gimmick to keep this thread going or scare people away from domestic, or something, right?
not according to a couple of the bros here!!!
Not only do they want the dealer, but they really want his supplier if possible.
They don't give a shit about meatheads buying a couple vials.
Reps for Jesus
Banned
The only real bad thing about is Domestic is that when they go public.. they're going to go down. It's just a matter of time. But once you find a good dom source.. it's gold while it lasts.
Get it while you can then.
Flip Digler
Advanced Cyborg Brother
Like I said maybe if you had the initials B.B. or A.Rod and spent a lot of time in my neck of the woods at a place call Balco , then I get were he is coming from . But don't think they want the Digler !
All starting to make sense !
All starting to make sense !
No. I'm not a source, and I don't wear a bra..."brah".
I do remember when it was cool/funny to suddenly start speaking in 3rd person though. Oh wait, it never was.
Pharmacom, Alpha-Pharma and Vermodje are 3 of the best brands one can hope to use. Thing is they are almost impossible to find domestic. I just happen to know a great domestic source for these great brands, so I am sharing the info.
This is an open source board. People are free to talk about sources, and share sources. So what sources and brands do you recommend?
No. I'm not a source, and I don't wear a bra..."brah".
I do remember when it was cool/funny to suddenly start speaking in 3rd person though. Oh wait, it never was.
Pharmacom, Alpha-Pharma and Vermodje are 3 of the best brands one can hope to use. Thing is they are almost impossible to find domestic. I just happen to know a great domestic source for these great brands, so I am sharing the info.
This is an open source board. People are free to talk about sources, and share sources. So what sources and brands do you recommend?
CEO dont listen to these fools man.. I cant believe this thread is still going on. I appreciate the sources you have provided and I know a bunch of other members do as well. Even if you are a under cover rep(which you have already stated you are not), who gives a shit.. as long as what you are pushin works. People act like its a crime to rep products or supps you believe in or just simply use.
Thats like working at a Chevy dealership, driving a chevy.. and encouraging others to do the same thing.. WTF :what:
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ceo says; roidders must not reed guud.
Show me where I ever said domestic is without risk?
Also, you never answered the question. Which source(s) and brand(s) do you recommend?
No. I'm not a source, and I don't wear a bra..."brah".
I do remember when it was cool/funny to suddenly start speaking in 3rd person though. Oh wait, it never was.
Pharmacom, Alpha-Pharma and Vermodje are 3 of the best brands one can hope to use. Thing is they are almost impossible to find domestic. I just happen to know a great domestic source for these great brands, so I am sharing the info.
This is an open source board. People are free to talk about sources, and share sources. So what sources and brands do you recommend?
ROIDDERS SAYS; i dont source or recommend sources, just sayin bra, no one cares if you source its open source board bra, just say how it is so internatty not getting blasted for no reason
I don't source. Sorry "bra"
I do recommend sources because I like to help my fellow good bros find legit gear and not waste their money..."bra"
If someone wants to order international that's their business. Most people in the US want domestic though.
I'm not blasting international but it has in my opinion, a higher risk factor than domestic. I have given reasons for this several times already. Not my fault your reading comprehension sucks.
You obviously are blasting domestic but haven't really given any legit reasons.
I guess you're just here to try to look cool (unsuccessfully) by talking in third person, and stir shit up.
Lol domestic is safer and faster I think. A legit dom would be the way to go
this thread is hot bro
paja
Banned
Yes my brother it is
the one supposedly based in France?
I think he's probably asking about the other one coming from China, sold by PSL and some others.
