Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below
napsgear
genezapharmateuticals
domestic-supply US-PHARMACIES
UGL OZ UGFREAK OxygenPharm
napsgeargenezapharmateuticals domestic-supplyUS-PHARMACIESUGL OZUGFREAKOxygenPharm

Venom cycle

JackSteel

JackSteel

<b>EVO V.I.P</b>
VIP
Is a sure fire way to test if you have made any solid gains or not! :) lol

FML threw up from 8am yesterday until about 6pm. Looked at the scale and had gone from 200 down to 190 again hahahah!

I mean don't get me wrong I never once thought that was muscle but it just goes to show test and deca blows up boy up BIG!

Anyway I've been loving the cycle but my ulcer always fucks shit up for me :/

Here's to gaining those carbs and water back!!! :) cheers!


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
you have an ulcer that caused you to vomit for 10 straight hours?

you sure it wasn't food poisoning? that is brutal to lose 10 pounds in that short of time.

I went deep sea fishing and threw up 6-7 straight hours and lost probably 6 pounds, that's the worst thing I ever went through as an adult atleast
 
Last edited:
Well good thing u didnt throw up 10 pounds of muscle. Glad ur ok.


THE GREEN MACHINE

CASCA
 
stevesmi said:
you have an ulcer that caused you to vomit for 10 straight hours?

you sure it wasn't food poisoning? that is brutal to lose 10 pounds in that short of time.

I went deep sea fishing and threw up 6-7 straight hours and lost probably 6 pounds, that's the worst thing I ever went through as an adult atleast
Click to expand...

Same thing happens once every 3-6 months. Been happening for about 4-5 years now. I'm not positive it's an ulcer but it does happen most often after I pour a bunch of PWO into stomach. Supplements often irritate it mostly but yesterday I just woke up and my food hadn't digested and I felt like I needs to shit. It's possible the boiled shrimp I ate the night before did it. Sort of over looked that.


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
Venom cycle complications

I always have to step one throw up, then lay in hot bath to soothe the nausea, then I get too hot and drink a little water and try to fall asleep but then have to throw up the water and start all over again. It's really hell on earth. It once happened for 6 days. I almost assaulted an ER nurse because he wouldn't give me an IV as I was dry heaving in the waiting room.


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
I bet you that either it was the seafood or its your PWO that is full of bacteria going into your stomach and causing your stomach to freak out and repel whatever it was.

also look into something called cyclic vomiting syndrome. it mostly occurs in children who grow out of it but it also can happen in adults. there is no explanation for it but a person has it happen to them in cycles.. in your case as you said you get it every 3-6 months like clockwork.. some people get it every 4 weeks.. and it will last a day then mysteriously go away.

definitely google it, there are injections you can get from your doctor when it comes on to stop the stomach spasms
 
stevesmi said:
I bet you that either it was the seafood or its your PWO that is full of bacteria going into your stomach and causing your stomach to freak out and repel whatever it was.

also look into something called cyclic vomiting syndrome. it mostly occurs in children who grow out of it but it also can happen in adults. there is no explanation for it but a person has it happen to them in cycles.. in your case as you said you get it every 3-6 months like clockwork.. some people get it every 4 weeks.. and it will last a day then mysteriously go away.

definitely google it, there are injections you can get from your doctor when it comes on to stop the stomach spasms
Click to expand...

Thanks Steve, I tried to get my stomach checked with the VA and had it all set up but they screwed me and fucked up the appoinment location and so I never really tried again. It was a pain dealing with them, but now I don't even have that option so maybe I'll just go wrack up a hospital bill and not pay it lol


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
Venom cycle complications

Saluki said:
Have you seen a gastro doctor and gotten your stomach scoped? Those are serious symptoms.
Click to expand...

Yeah, I had it scheduled and things got screwed up and they never rescheduled my appointment so I just gave up. I really hate dealing with the VA here


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
I wonder if it could be caused by steroids?? I don't really think so but sometimes I feel like the vomiting is separate from the continuous vomiting. Like the muscle contractions are intensified and take longer to subside? But I'm pretty sure it has happened off cycle so I guess not.


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
^^^ hate to break it to you guys but CVS (cyclic vomiting syndrome) isn't something a doctor can test you for. its something that pretty much is a guess and any doc who diagnoses you with that is making a pure guess based on exhausting everything else.

I had it growing up myself. I went through 100 different tests, scopes, blah blah blah.. all that shit is just a way for docs to line their pockets. luckily once I got older I grew out of it. the only thing you can do for it is get the injections or suppositories and use them once the symptoms appear and hope it does the job at calming your stomach .. you sometimes will end up going to the hospital and having to get an IV from de-hydration, I also believe that stress and certain foods can trigger it. but there really isn't a clear cut explanation for it.

the funny thing is you can be a perfectly health person and it can occur out of nowhere.

here is a link on it http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...iting-syndrome/basics/definition/con-20028160 you might have a relative who has it, its actually quite common but very under diagnosed for obvious reasons..

I used to be part of a group and would have parents call me crying cause their kids would have to go through it, its awful. its a very sad and frustrating thing for a parent to go through.. the main problem is the best gastro docs are clueless about this, and even if they know about it there isn't a cure for it
 
Last edited:
stevesmi said:
^^^ hate to break it to you guys but CVS (cyclic vomiting syndrome) isn't something a doctor can test you for. its something that pretty much is a guess and any doc who diagnoses you with that is making a pure guess based on exhausting everything else.

I had it growing up myself. I went through 100 different tests, scopes, blah blah blah.. all that shit is just a way for docs to line their pockets. luckily once I got older I grew out of it. the only thing you can do for it is get the injections or suppositories and use them once the symptoms appear and hope it does the job at calming your stomach .. you sometimes will end up going to the hospital and having to get an IV from de-hydration, I also believe that stress and certain foods can trigger it. but there really isn't a clear cut explanation for it.

the funny thing is you can be a perfectly health person and it can occur
Click to expand...

One day I'll get scoped and see if they can tell. At this point I take phenergen which only makes me drowsy and then aloe Vera juice after it subsides. I think it's honestly the acidity of my diet. And when I have indigestion at night I can wake up to the intense nausea from all the acid sitting in there. And of course C4 extreme PWO is pretty acidic as well which I believe first caused it


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
Sometimes I'll wake up alright and down a PWO and then as soon as it hits my stomach I know I'm in for a long day.


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
Venom cycle complications

stevesmi said:
and for you Jack since you smoke pot from the mayo clinic

"Chronic use of marijuana (cannabis sativa) also has been associated with cyclic vomiting syndrome."
Click to expand...

Oh shit... You know I think that crossed my mind once briefly and I of course dismissed it. It's impossible to really smoke while it's happening but when I finally do towards the end it usually helps. Although that doesn't mean it can't be the cause also


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
the fact that you have a pattern to it that you have noticed tells me a good chance its CVS, cause that's exactly what happens.. I would get my bouts as a kid every 4 weeks like clockwork.

do some googling bro and see if it adds up.
 
Anytime I have ever had stomach problems and I smoked some bud my stomach felt better. Sounds like maybe 86 the PWO and just go for a sports drink/ protein combo.
 
JackSteel said:
Yeah, I had it scheduled and things got screwed up and they never rescheduled my appointment so I just gave up. I really hate dealing with the VA here


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
Click to expand...
Bro I feel you on the VA buisness, slowest government employees ever man. They once gave me 2 tetnis boosters a day apart thise dumb motherfuckers. Anyways hope your feeling better bro and that sucks. Hopefully it wont be to rough to pack that 10 back on
 
JDizzle said:
Bro I feel you on the VA buisness, slowest government employees ever man. They once gave me 2 tetnis boosters a day apart thise dumb motherfuckers. Anyways hope your feeling better bro and that sucks. Hopefully it wont be to rough to pack that 10 back on
Click to expand...

And yeah it came back fast. Thanks man. I once threw up for 3 hours in "urgent care" until they made me leave and said the doctors went home lol my mom let them have it for that one.


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
stevesmi said:
and for you Jack since you smoke pot from the mayo clinic

"Chronic use of marijuana (cannabis sativa) also has been associated with cyclic vomiting syndrome."
Click to expand...
Never could seem to link Marijuana to anything stomach related but for years I'd go through several month phases of puking up stomach acid every morning and being in intense pain(I wanted to die). Had my stomach scoped, cat scan, tried ibs medication...only thing that Dr found that helped was a drug called noritriptyln(spelling?) But what was the cause of all this, marijuana! How'd I find out? From quiting and relapsing couple times, every time stomach would get all fucked. Been sober few years, other than indigestion here and there, I have zero stomach problems.
 
JackSteel said:
And yeah it came back fast. Thanks man. I once threw up for 3 hours in "urgent care" until they made me leave and said the doctors went home lol my mom let them have it for that one.


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
Click to expand...

when I was a kid I was throwing up in the ER and the prick nurse demanded I give him a urine sample.. ummm.. hello dumbass! I can't keep anything down so how do you expect me to take a piss when everything I try to drink gets thrown back up? He told me if I didn't he would have to do some sort of procedure to get the urine out, and the other nurse said "he won't like your way" ...

there are a lot of assholes in the medical community, its not JUST the VA, try going to any hospital. they have no empathy for you, its actually a proven fact that people who work in the medical field many are bi-polar for a reason. you have to have a screw loose to ignore seeing people in pain/sick all the time in the ER. bottom line if you want a good experience in a hospital you need to go up north.. they have damn good hospitals in the Midwest and northeast.. but the south the hospitals are awful
 
crazy_jay said:
Never could seem to link Marijuana to anything stomach related but for years I'd go through several month phases of puking up stomach acid every morning and being in intense pain(I wanted to die). Had my stomach scoped, cat scan, tried ibs medication...only thing that Dr found that helped was a drug called noritriptyln(spelling?) But what was the cause of all this, marijuana! How'd I find out? From quiting and relapsing couple times, every time stomach would get all fucked. Been sober few years, other than indigestion here and there, I have zero stomach problems.
Click to expand...

Interesting. And scary lol


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
JackSteel said:
Interesting. And scary lol


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
Click to expand...
I never thought it was marijuana and never wanted to accept it and most people don't believe me when I tell my story...hell with all this legalization going on, I don't want to believe it still, I love the herb but I've never felt so miserable in my life and try to stay away from it.
 
I've considered it. I think I heard it is actually because of the nausea killing effects that sort of cause your stomach to be more sensitive to things maybe? Can't remember. It's def possible.


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
I gotta say I quit smoking weed like a year ago and have noticed my health had improved bro for sure. The only issue is my appitite, Its fuckin hard to get and stay hungry for sure. I remember when id smoke and eat EVERYTHING bro.... now its a challenge to do it lol
 
Venom cycle complications

Okay so it's definitely acidity that is causing it. I was great all day until I ate a schlotsky's sandwich and a bunch of orange juice and of course now it feels like needles in my stomach. Could be worse because of smoking but who knows. This is definitely an ulcer as far as I can tell wouldn't y'all say?



The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
Damn bro are you still outta comission? I had to take 6 days off for the flu last week and that shit sucked, had me feeling hella weak going back in the gym. Good now tho, anyways hope your better bro and watch those acidic foods family
 
Yeah man. Not with my stomach though, with my presumed hernia. I also found out hernias can often aggravate the stomach lining and even cause stomach ulcers as well so this all could be linked. The hernia is damn near crippling me intermittently in public some days. I just stop in my tracks and wince in agony. It fucking sucks


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
You know what's funny is I didn't realize deca could cause night sweats lol!! I've been like WTF?!?


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
I had some sides similar to tren on my NPP/mast/test prop cycle. All gear was pro form labs but I got the tren cough almost every time, got that cardboard taste you get when you pin test no ester, and had night sweats as well. It was weird
 
JackSteel said:
You know what's funny is I didn't realize deca could cause night sweats lol!! I've been like WTF?!?


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
Click to expand...

Lower carb intake closer to bed brotha, if you're experiencing this of course.
 
I do eat a lot of carbs before bed


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
JackSteel said:
I do eat a lot of carbs before bed. Although I'm not sure I mind badly enough to lowery pre bed sugar intake lol! Thanks for the advice I'll keep it in mind if it gets out of hand!


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
Click to expand...




The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
My post is invisible lol that's good to know JDizzle I'll keep that in mind but I like my pre bedtime carbs too much to let them go for now😊


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
Well fuck fellas! I just can't catch a break I guess I'm bummed about wasting this whole deca cycle. If anything I may make some call improvement but damn for 400mgtest and 600 deca that's not much to show lol. I suppose I should just quit the cycle? May as well save the last few ml right?


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
JackSteel said:
Well fuck fellas! I just can't catch a break I guess I'm bummed about wasting this whole deca cycle. If anything I may make some call improvement but damn for 400mgtest and 600 deca that's not much to show lol. I suppose I should just quit the cycle? May as well save the last few ml right?


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
Click to expand...

never a waste buddy… the AAS lifestyle is a long, slow, journey.
 
Hey what the fuck happened to the edit option? It's really pissin me off


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
JackSteel said:
Lmao! That would burn me up lol


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
Click to expand...

I hate it, because more times than not I caught myself with grammatical errors or sounding like a yard :mad:

Keep pushing forward brotha and come back stronger next run.
 
Yessir. If yiu cant get it in, might as well get recovered. Imo aas without the training is like sex without the woman, pointless but with aas you dont even get the benifit of the nut lololol. Stay strong bro and like felicity said come back stronger next run.
 
I don't recover bro I'm trt for life


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
Felicity said:
I hate it, because more times than not I caught myself with grammatical errors or sounding like a yard :mad:

Keep pushing forward brotha and come back stronger next run.
Click to expand...

Lmfao! Me too dude i hate grammar and spelling mistakes


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
I would just go back to my 150 mg a week


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
My loads have definitely been smaller on deca. I know I've heard of this before several times. I may decrease my deca and turn this into a nice maintenance cruise.


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
I look at it this way, I have taken abiut 12 days off this cycle (6 when the twins were born, and 6 with this flu). The reason I didnt stop the cycle is first off... its a long one at 16 weeks and secondly life happens which means to me there will always be issues with my cycle. Either way family, good luck and good gains bro :):)
 
Also I only do 300-350 of deca, for me that plus 500-600 test is the perfect blend. Loads still suffer a bit though but stay harder then a political solution to the problems in the middle east :cool:
 
JDizzle said:
Also I only do 300-350 of deca, for me that plus 500-600 test is the perfect blend. Loads still suffer a bit though but stay harder then a political solution to the problems in the middle east :cool:
Click to expand...

Lol! That'll be what I try next go around.


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
Update on the "complication":

I came to my mom's trusted reflexologist and he said my whole issue including vomiting and hernia-like pain was that my oblique was inflamed which was causing pressure on the inside and several of my organs were all shifted to one side restricting bike flow and enzyme flow which caused my constipation and hence the vomiting. He massaged my abs and pushed my organs around (through the outside pervs😸) anyway I'm going back tomorrow for a follow up because it hurts again, which is to be expected with this kind of treatment. But it's not a hernia which is FANFUCKTASTIC!!! anyway I got head in my car today as well so call it a great day 😏😇😄


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
buddy how much does your reflexologist charge? I found one close to me that charges 150 per hour.. trying to see if that is a good price or not.. I don't see any reviews on her to know if she is worth it or not.

I want to try this out.. I used to go to a homeopathic doc every 2 weeks but she was way cheaper than that.
 
This guy charges 50 a session. Sorry I can't read the rest of your post lol


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
JDizzle said:
Glad you finally found some help broseph. Does that mean your cycle is back on?
Click to expand...

Well I'm discontinuing the deca for my lady because it's causing me to have some complications in the bedroom even with caber. But I'll hit the Epistane again when I get back home Sunday. I really like deca but my loads are suffering As well as not being able to cum very easily. Sorry if TMI lol




The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
stevesmi said:
buddy how much does your reflexologist charge? I found one close to me that charges 150 per hour.. trying to see if that is a good price or not.. I don't see any reviews on her to know if she is worth it or not.

I want to try this out.. I used to go to a homeopathic doc every 2 weeks but she was way cheaper than that.
Click to expand...

Yeah it sounds high to me man but I've only ever been to this guy so I haven't shopped around. Kinda seems high though. I'd shop around


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
JackSteel said:
Well I'm discontinuing the deca for my lady because it's causing me to have some complications in the bedroom even with caber. But I'll hit the Epistane again when I get back home Sunday. I really like deca but my loads are suffering As well as not being able to cum very easily. Sorry if TMI lol




The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
Click to expand...
I feel you bro, next time run 1.5 or 2 fir every 1 deca. So for 300 deca do 450 or 600 test, that keeps me right but the load size does go down. Gains are great tho :)
 
JDizzle said:
I feel you bro, next time run 1.5 or 2 fir every 1 deca. So for 300 deca do 450 or 600 test, that keeps me right but the load size does go down. Gains are great tho :)
Click to expand...

Will have to try that out bro thanks!


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
Okay scratch that I might try lowering deca and raising test like everyone recommends. I wanted to try it my way to see but clearly my dick doesn't like higher nandralone lol.... Argh! I dunno I'm on the fence. Just as deca is starting to work I hate to stop injections ugh... :(


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
^^^ the reason your loads are down is because deca is a DDA, which is the opposite of a DHT (sex hormone)

make sense?

so what you can do is simple.. ADD PROVIRON! its a DHT, loads will come back

another natural option is hcgenerate or test stack. both contain agresis fadogia.
 
stevesmi said:
^^^ the reason your loads are down is because deca is a DDA, which is the opposite of a DHT (sex hormone)

make sense?

so what you can do is simple.. ADD PROVIRON! its a DHT, loads will come back

another natural option is hcgenerate or test stack. both contain agresis fadogia.
Click to expand...

Thanks Steve! I wondered about masteron. Maybe I'll grab some.


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
the.gladiator1987 said:
Bro y do u need to stop deca y don't u just raise test?
Click to expand...

Exactly. And also I think my problem was a desensitized dick from beating off too much lol I was pretty busy recently 😝 so the small loads is probably my only issue. I'll try a dht and see!


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
Does primo help? I know it's a dht compound


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
Because my lady was getting me off pretty well and quick over our recent get away. Road head isn't normally "finishable" for me lol


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
My hands on the wheel and a mouth on my....


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
Throwing in Masteron now to help sides and dry me up a bit hopefully.
Lol! This cycle is turning out to be a big honker


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
And the ulcer - has it subsided any? I never had an ulcer but it doesn't sound good. How about the other ailment - pain in mid section?
 
I only ever notice I have one every 6 months or so. I get acid reflux and burp a lot but nothing horrible until acid gets built up. Or that's my theory anyway


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
stretch512 said:
And the ulcer - has it subsided any? I never had an ulcer but it doesn't sound good. How about the other ailment - pain in mid section?
Click to expand...

But the pain turned out to be an inflamed oblique that was putting a lot of pressure on my organs. My organs weren't in the right place anymore, they had shifted and my pancreas etc weren't producing bike to digest my food which is what caused the constipation and then acid build up. So the oblique is what made me vomit THIS time.


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
Have you tried nexium or other OTC meds? You know I take a two - three ginger caps that does me right. I hate reflux - I grew up eating cajun foods.
 
stretch512 said:
Have you tried nexium or other OTC meds? You know I take a two - three ginger caps that does me right. I hate reflux - I grew up eating cajun foods.
Click to expand...
Same here, if I over indulge on some crawfish my throat starts closing up(gerd). It's a miserable existence but it doesn't make me puke, so I can't really compare to OP's problems..
 
dinkleberg said:
Same here, if I over indulge on some crawfish my throat starts closing up(gerd). It's a miserable existence but it doesn't make me puke, so I can't really compare to OP's problems..
Click to expand...

Are you allergic to shellfish?


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
dinkleberg said:
Same here, if I over indulge on some crawfish my throat starts closing up(gerd). It's a miserable existence but it doesn't make me puke, so I can't really compare to OP's problems..
Click to expand...

dude seriously you have a seafood allergy .. what is happening isn't GERD it is anaphylactic shock and you can die from that. go get Epi needles and have them on hand from now on.
 
no no no..its not like it closes up severely, its from the acids. I get it when I eat a lot of spicey foods, I mainly get it from the crawfish because of how spicy I like them and I suck the heads. Lobster/crab doesn't do it(unless they're spicy).
 
dinkleberg said:
no no no..its not like it closes up severely, its from the acids. I get it when I eat a lot of spicey foods, I mainly get it from the crawfish because of how spicy I like them and I suck the heads. Lobster/crab doesn't do it(unless they're spicy).
Click to expand...

so you like to suck head?

haha.. I went to a crawfish party and we had a blast with that.. I don't like to suck the heads or the brown slimy parts.. yuk!
 
Some pics. Not that I've made visible progress at all but nonetheless it was back day lol ImageUploadedByTapatalk1414875660.386915.webpImageUploadedByTapatalk1414875673.968641.webpImageUploadedByTapatalk1414875704.580634.webp


The VENOMpharma courses through my veins daily... Need a reference?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

bigKO1
Next Cycle Questions
Replies
64
Views
1K
LevButlerov
LevButlerov
A
First Cycle Log
Replies
1
Views
52
LevButlerov
LevButlerov
caccery
Approved Log Testosterone Enanthate, HGH and Anavar cycle Journal
Replies
49
Views
1K
RoySimpson
RoySimpson
Nacho
Approved Log Size and Growth phase cycle Log
2
Replies
107
Views
754
Ohdamn
Ohdamn
Jessebizbo
Bulking stack advice Test EQ Deca?
Replies
7
Views
471
rizzlekdizzle
rizzlekdizzle
Back
Top Bottom