Approved Log My TRT and HCG cruise Journal

[trentwin1]

Hey guys my first cycle is now coming to an end with my last pin done on sunday. Made some real good gains and if you want to check that out do that.

Right now sitting at 103 and going to maintain that throughout my 8 week cruise, hopefully I can lean out even more before the next bulking phase begins.

For the cruise dosages:
125 mg pwk of test e
350 IU’s of HCG eod
Also @LevButlerov has suggested a fadogia based testbooster which Ill look into buying

Focus now is keeping up the intensity in the gym, boosting my cardio and getting that protein to 300g

Will get bloods before starting my next cycle also.

Im a bit stuck on what my next cycle should look like, I was originally thinking equipoise. Now Im leaning towards possibly Anadrol for the first 4 weeks then 3 weeks of just test then 6-8 weeks of Anavar to finish off and lean out a bit. Possible small cut for the end of summer.

Open to all suggestions from the evo community. Any critique/advice is always welcome.

Below are the flicks of my current physique

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey guys my first cycle is now coming to an end with my last pin done on sunday. Made some real good gains and if you want to check that out do that.

Right now sitting at 103 and going to maintain that throughout my 8 week cruise, hopefully I can lean out even more before the next bulking phase begins.

For the cruise dosages:
125 mg pwk of test e
350 IU’s of HCG eod
Also @LevButlerov has suggested a fadogia based testbooster which Ill look into buying

Focus now is keeping up the intensity in the gym, boosting my cardio and getting that protein to 300g

Will get bloods before starting my next cycle also.

Im a bit stuck on what my next cycle should look like, I was originally thinking equipoise. Now Im leaning towards possibly Anadrol for the first 4 weeks then 3 weeks of just test then 6-8 weeks of Anavar to finish off and lean out a bit. Possible small cut for the end of summer.

Open to all suggestions from the evo community. Any critique/advice is always welcome.

Below are the flicks of my current physique

Happy to see this new log, TRT is well put together @trentwin1 but some mods we need to make.
To start you cant do so much HCG long term, it's very estrogenic.
plan for 2 weeks 500 Ius E3D of HCG, then drop it
TRT should be 125mgs/week, that's ok no issues
fadogia based test booster is a must, if you can get hcgenerate get it or get what you can.

I'd like to see your training and food grow in this cruise log looking forward to it.

Im a bit stuck on what my next cycle should look like, I was originally thinking equipoise. Now Im leaning towards possibly Anadrol for the first 4 weeks then 3 weeks of just test then 6-8 weeks of Anavar to finish off and lean out a bit. Possible small cut for the end of summer.

Open to all suggestions from the evo community. Any critique/advice is always welcome.

I'm not sure you need anadrol or anavar but that can work.
Test/Eq with light anadrol preworkout could give you some crazy pumps.
when you say summer NZ is like AU, your summer is winter here right?

Below are the flicks of my current physique

you look really good, the cycle did well for you bigger arms bigger chest and leaner!


@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy

 

[trentwin1]

Happy to see this new log, TRT is well put together @trentwin1 but some mods we need to make.
To start you cant do so much HCG long term, it's very estrogenic.
plan for 2 weeks 500mgs E3D of HCG, then drop it
TRT should be 125mgs/week, that's ok no issues
fadogia based test booster is a must, if you can get hcgenerate get it or get what you can.

I'd like to see your training and food grow in this cruise log looking forward to it.


I'm not sure you need anadrol or anavar but that can work.
Test/Eq with light anadrol preworkout could give you some crazy pumps.
when you say summer NZ is like AU, your summer is winter here right?

you look really good, the cycle did well for you bigger arms bigger chest and leaner!


@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy

Thanks man!

Happy to see this new log, TRT is well put together @trentwin1 but some mods we need to make.
To start you cant do so much HCG long term, it's very estrogenic.
plan for 2 weeks 500mgs E3D of HCG, then drop it
TRT should be 125mgs/week

Didnt actually know this thank you. I have bottles of 6000 IU what does that convert to in mg?

fadogia based test booster is a must, if you can get hcgenerate get it or get what you can.

Perfect will do. Ill also do some research into it what does it actually do?

Eating is definitely going to be a big focus I want to get everything dialed, including supplements too.

I'm not sure you need anadrol or anavar but that can work.
Test/Eq with light anadrol preworkout could give you some crazy pumps.

Yeah I mean like I said open to anything if you think theres a better option. Going to up test to 400 or 500 depending. Anadrol just looks like a lot of fun to be honest, was just planning on a dose on the smaller side pre workout. Do you think eq would be a better option.

when you say summer NZ is like AU, your summer is winter here right?

Yeah summer is over the Christmas period its bloody awesome.

 

[LevButlerov]

Didnt actually know this thank you. I have bottles of 6000 IU what does that convert to in mg?

sorry my mistake I was typing fast its 500 IUs not mgs @trentwin1

Perfect will do. Ill also do some research into it what does it actually do?

Eating is definitely going to be a big focus I want to get everything dialed, including supplements too.

it's basically a way to get your balls work even on cycle in simple terms
get some probiotics with digestive enzymes and psyllium husk as well

Yeah I mean like I said open to anything if you think theres a better option. Going to up test to 400 or 500 depending. Anadrol just looks like a lot of fun to be honest, was just planning on a dose on the smaller side pre workout. Do you think eq would be a better option.

I like test eq anadrol actually I just think we need to play it by ear at this point and i do think both eq and anadrol are an option

Yeah summer is over the Christmas period its bloody awesome.

sounds amazing but here mostly hot so I like xmas cooler season

 

[Pigsy]

I run EQ anadrol also and love it

 

[Allupfromhere]

Hey guys my first cycle is now coming to an end with my last pin done on sunday. Made some real good gains and if you want to check that out do that.

Right now sitting at 103 and going to maintain that throughout my 8 week cruise, hopefully I can lean out even more before the next bulking phase begins.

For the cruise dosages:
125 mg pwk of test e
350 IU’s of HCG eod
Also @LevButlerov has suggested a fadogia based testbooster which Ill look into buying

Focus now is keeping up the intensity in the gym, boosting my cardio and getting that protein to 300g

Will get bloods before starting my next cycle also.

Im a bit stuck on what my next cycle should look like, I was originally thinking equipoise. Now Im leaning towards possibly Anadrol for the first 4 weeks then 3 weeks of just test then 6-8 weeks of Anavar to finish off and lean out a bit. Possible small cut for the end of summer.

Open to all suggestions from the evo community. Any critique/advice is always welcome.

Below are the flicks of my current physique

Brother you look great and the first log was a solid success! Always good to give the body some rest in between too. Keen to see you next push.
If you gonna run a cycle for that long then i really like eq! Im using it right now and it has become my favourite compound, just need to iron out your ratios and let it rip.

Happy to see this new log, TRT is well put together @trentwin1 but some mods we need to make.
To start you cant do so much HCG long term, it's very estrogenic.
plan for 2 weeks 500 Ius E3D of HCG, then drop it
TRT should be 125mgs/week, that's ok no issues
fadogia based test booster is a must, if you can get hcgenerate get it or get what you can.

I'd like to see your training and food grow in this cruise log looking forward to it.


I'm not sure you need anadrol or anavar but that can work.
Test/Eq with light anadrol preworkout could give you some crazy pumps.
when you say summer NZ is like AU, your summer is winter here right?

you look really good, the cycle did well for you bigger arms bigger chest and leaner!


@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy

Light anadrol pw sounds beast for a strength boost and big pumps. Or instead Could kickstart eq cycle with the var for first 6 weeks maybe?

 

[trentwin1]

sorry my mistake I was typing fast its 500 IUs not mgs @trentwin1

it's basically a way to get your balls work even on cycle in simple terms
get some probiotics with digestive enzymes and psyllium husk as well

I like test eq anadrol actually I just think we need to play it by ear at this point and i do think both eq and anadrol are an option

sounds amazing but here mostly hot so I like xmas cooler season

Oh perfect sounds good thanks for the help. Just looking to source the brand of fadogia you mentioned.

Definitely playing it by ear I'm still 9 or so weeks away so I got a lot of time to explore other options.

Cant wait for summer to actually start here we've been getting some pretty bad weather, even now what should be spring. Just on and off rain constantly.

 

[LevButlerov]

Oh perfect sounds good thanks for the help. Just looking to source the brand of fadogia you mentioned.

i was talking about hcgenerate
hcgenerate.com
https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/pct/hcgenerate-n2generate

Definitely playing it by ear I'm still 9 or so weeks away so I got a lot of time to explore other options.

lets go to week 4 and plan the cycle more @trentwin1

Cant wait for summer to actually start here we've been getting some pretty bad weather, even now what should be spring. Just on and off rain constantly.

summer should be nice on your side!

 

[AlysiaYeoh]

Looking solid, bro! Enjoy the cruise and that protein!

 

[trentwin1]

i was talking about hcgenerate
hcgenerate.com
https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/pct/hcgenerate-n2generate

lets go to week 4 and plan the cycle more @trentwin1

summer should be nice on your side!

Sweet as sounds great man. In the mean time im gonna smash down some protein and pray for some sun!

 

[Mobster]

Looking solid, bro! Enjoy the cruise and that protein!

S'damn right.

 

[stevesmi]

Hey guys my first cycle is now coming to an end with my last pin done on sunday. Made some real good gains and if you want to check that out do that.

Right now sitting at 103 and going to maintain that throughout my 8 week cruise, hopefully I can lean out even more before the next bulking phase begins.

For the cruise dosages:
125 mg pwk of test e
350 IU’s of HCG eod
Also @LevButlerov has suggested a fadogia based testbooster which Ill look into buying

Focus now is keeping up the intensity in the gym, boosting my cardio and getting that protein to 300g

Will get bloods before starting my next cycle also.

Im a bit stuck on what my next cycle should look like, I was originally thinking equipoise. Now Im leaning towards possibly Anadrol for the first 4 weeks then 3 weeks of just test then 6-8 weeks of Anavar to finish off and lean out a bit. Possible small cut for the end of summer.

Open to all suggestions from the evo community. Any critique/advice is always welcome.

Below are the flicks of my current physique

@trentwin1 the cruise dosages are looking good. if you can swap into natty supps over hcg that would be good. the issue with hcg is the cost and the estrogen risks.

 

[Ulter]

Hey guys my first cycle is now coming to an end with my last pin done on sunday. Made some real good gains and if you want to check that out do that.

Right now sitting at 103 and going to maintain that throughout my 8 week cruise, hopefully I can lean out even more before the next bulking phase begins.

For the cruise dosages:
125 mg pwk of test e
350 IU’s of HCG eod
Also @LevButlerov has suggested a fadogia based testbooster which Ill look into buying

Focus now is keeping up the intensity in the gym, boosting my cardio and getting that protein to 300g

Will get bloods before starting my next cycle also.

Im a bit stuck on what my next cycle should look like, I was originally thinking equipoise. Now Im leaning towards possibly Anadrol for the first 4 weeks then 3 weeks of just test then 6-8 weeks of Anavar to finish off and lean out a bit. Possible small cut for the end of summer.

Open to all suggestions from the evo community. Any critique/advice is always welcome.

Below are the flicks of my current physique

yeah i think lev is right. hcg is just a waste of time and money. having to go through the headache of storing it and mixing @trentwin1

 

[ceo]

Hey guys my first cycle is now coming to an end with my last pin done on sunday. Made some real good gains and if you want to check that out do that.

Right now sitting at 103 and going to maintain that throughout my 8 week cruise, hopefully I can lean out even more before the next bulking phase begins.

For the cruise dosages:
125 mg pwk of test e
350 IU’s of HCG eod
Also @LevButlerov has suggested a fadogia based testbooster which Ill look into buying

Focus now is keeping up the intensity in the gym, boosting my cardio and getting that protein to 300g

Will get bloods before starting my next cycle also.

Im a bit stuck on what my next cycle should look like, I was originally thinking equipoise. Now Im leaning towards possibly Anadrol for the first 4 weeks then 3 weeks of just test then 6-8 weeks of Anavar to finish off and lean out a bit. Possible small cut for the end of summer.

Open to all suggestions from the evo community. Any critique/advice is always welcome.

Below are the flicks of my current physique

bros we see the physique in the pics! looking good if you ask me @trentwin1 seeing some good muscle development

 

[ROIDDERS]

Thanks man!

Didnt actually know this thank you. I have bottles of 6000 IU what does that convert to in mg?


Perfect will do. Ill also do some research into it what does it actually do?

Eating is definitely going to be a big focus I want to get everything dialed, including supplements too.

Yeah I mean like I said open to anything if you think theres a better option. Going to up test to 400 or 500 depending. Anadrol just looks like a lot of fun to be honest, was just planning on a dose on the smaller side pre workout. Do you think eq would be a better option.

Yeah summer is over the Christmas period its bloody awesome.

@trentwin1 fadogia is an awesome supplement. especially when you stack with tribulus. they do a lot of good things across the board even with cholesterol levels

 

[2Thick]

Hey guys my first cycle is now coming to an end with my last pin done on sunday. Made some real good gains and if you want to check that out do that.

Right now sitting at 103 and going to maintain that throughout my 8 week cruise, hopefully I can lean out even more before the next bulking phase begins.

For the cruise dosages:
125 mg pwk of test e
350 IU’s of HCG eod
Also @LevButlerov has suggested a fadogia based testbooster which Ill look into buying

Focus now is keeping up the intensity in the gym, boosting my cardio and getting that protein to 300g

Will get bloods before starting my next cycle also.

Im a bit stuck on what my next cycle should look like, I was originally thinking equipoise. Now Im leaning towards possibly Anadrol for the first 4 weeks then 3 weeks of just test then 6-8 weeks of Anavar to finish off and lean out a bit. Possible small cut for the end of summer.

Open to all suggestions from the evo community. Any critique/advice is always welcome.

Below are the flicks of my current physique

125mgs a week of test E is pretty good. i like that cruising amount. no need for hcg though as it will cause other issues you won't want @trentwin1

 

[HarleyGuy]

@trentwin1

I'm pumped to see how this TRT goes after you posted your closing shots at the end of your last log. TRT after a cycle like yours will be really interesting both scientifically and anecdotally for the others bros on this forum in terms of how to maintain both your size and your shape.

I have to blast off to work for now but I'm leaving this thread up for when I get back to take a look more at what you wrote as your opening post and what the big dawgs are saying.... back in a flash.....

 

[trentwin1]

I've seen a few people saying not to worry about HCG (@stevesmi, @2Thick, @Ulter). My main thing is wanting to maintain fertility so when I want kids in a few years I can jump off and not have a lot of trouble with my sperm count. I have it now and managed to get 3 vials of 6000ius for the price of one, so it being expensive is no worry. Also have stored and reconstituted peptides in my fridge recently and that wasn't too much of a fuss. From what I've seen if dosage is ~1000IU's per week estrogen isn't much of an issue, could be wrong. Just trying to do the best thing for my future testicular function. If HCG isn't the best option I'm very open to changing up the cruise protocol.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Hey guys my first cycle is now coming to an end with my last pin done on sunday. Made some real good gains and if you want to check that out do that.

Right now sitting at 103 and going to maintain that throughout my 8 week cruise, hopefully I can lean out even more before the next bulking phase begins.

For the cruise dosages:
125 mg pwk of test e
350 IU’s of HCG eod
Also @LevButlerov has suggested a fadogia based testbooster which Ill look into buying

Focus now is keeping up the intensity in the gym, boosting my cardio and getting that protein to 300g

Will get bloods before starting my next cycle also.

Im a bit stuck on what my next cycle should look like, I was originally thinking equipoise. Now Im leaning towards possibly Anadrol for the first 4 weeks then 3 weeks of just test then 6-8 weeks of Anavar to finish off and lean out a bit. Possible small cut for the end of summer.

Open to all suggestions from the evo community. Any critique/advice is always welcome.

Below are the flicks of my current physique

This is a super interesting log bro.

Ok so if I'm reading this right your thinking

possibly Anadrol for the first 4 weeks

So

• Week 1-4 = 25-50mg anadrol only
• Week 5-7 = Test only (in this case it should be TestP if it's what I'm thinking)
• Week 6-8 = Anavar only 20-30mg/day

I must admit I've never seen that before but it sounds unique and I'd be watching for sure LOL

OR did you mean Week 1-8 TestE or TestC with the orals in week 1-4 & week 6-8? (That is what I'd suggest vs. the above)

Also, since you have a boat load of HCG and what worked for some dudes I've helped out in the past was short blasts of high doses to wake your balls right the fuck up like a drill Sgt. and then once they're awake abort the HCG (e2 will go high with this there's almost no way around it, it's why teenagers get bitch tits). You can run 500iu e3d for 2-3 weeks or run it aggressively at e2d for 2 weeks or less, then dump it. In and out. Ideally you hop on HCGenerate for the whole time as well. I'm on TRT right now and HCGenerate have my balls bigger than I've ever felt them in years, no bullshit! Even my load volume is bigger and it has to be the HCGenerate. I'm also stacking it with N2Guard as well.

Looking forward to following you into the new year bro!

 

[trentwin1]

OR did you mean Week 1-8 TestE or TestC with the orals in week 1-4 & week 6-8?

This is what I meant. Test E throughout maybe 4-500 mg with anadrol 1-4 and then anavar 7-13. The three weeks in between is just so I don't go too hard on the liver. Thinking about doing just one oral to finish or kickstart with equipoise alongside test throughout. Very keen to try anadrol it sounds very fun.

Also, since you have a boat load of HCG and what worked for some dudes I've helped out in the past was short blasts of high doses to wake your balls right the fuck up like a drill Sgt. and then once they're awake abort the HCG (e2 will go high with this there's almost no way around it, it's why teenagers get bitch tits). You can run 500iu e3d for 2-3 weeks or run it aggressively at e2d for 2 weeks or less, then dump it. In and out. Ideally you hop on HCGenerate for the whole time as well. I'm on TRT right now and HCGenerate have my balls bigger than I've ever felt them in years, no bullshit! Even my load volume is bigger and it has to be the HCGenerate. I'm also stacking it with N2Guard as well.

Thanks for this thats similar to what @LevButlerov said and seems like a great way to do it. Last thing I want is to look like I lactate

 

[LevButlerov]

Sweet as sounds great man. In the mean time im gonna smash down some protein and pray for some sun!

protein it up and sun it up

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks for this thats similar to what @LevButlerov said and seems like a great way to do it. Last thing I want is to look like I lactate

some people want to lactate lol @trentwin1

 

[LevButlerov]

I've seen a few people saying not to worry about HCG (@stevesmi, @2Thick, @Ulter). My main thing is wanting to maintain fertility so when I want kids in a few years I can jump off and not have a lot of trouble with my sperm count. I have it now and managed to get 3 vials of 6000ius for the price of one, so it being expensive is no worry. Also have stored and reconstituted peptides in my fridge recently and that wasn't too much of a fuss. From what I've seen if dosage is ~1000IU's per week estrogen isn't much of an issue, could be wrong. Just trying to do the best thing for my future testicular function. If HCG isn't the best option I'm very open to changing up the cruise protocol.

You can use 500 IU/week HCG if you are concerned, but don't go over that/week on TRT @trentwin1

 

[HarleyGuy]

kickstart with equipoise

EQ isn't a kickstarter it's a long running compound and takes about 6-8 half lives to leave the body (like up to a year), similarly it only starts to really give you it's magic in at about the 6-8 week mark so I'd run the EQ the whole way with Test if your dead set on EQ just make sure keep the ratio of Test:EQ at about 2:1 so 500Test/250EQ.

Last thing I want is to look like I lactate

Haha I hear ya. You might look like you could lactate but you wouldn't because nothing you're looking at running will skyrocket your prolactin. Anadrol maybe because it doesn't aromatize per se but it's sneaky the way it gets around that and can raise prolactin, but you're doing a short blast of it so you won't need cabergoline on hand. Caber is a "break glass in case of emergency" compound and is rarely needed.

With what you're looking to run you should be fine.

 

[trentwin1]

EQ isn't a kickstarter it's a long running compound and takes about 6-8 half lives to leave the body (like up to a year), similarly it only starts to really give you it's magic in at about the 6-8 week mark so I'd run the EQ the whole way with Test if your dead set on EQ just make sure keep the ratio of Test:EQ at about 2:1 so 500Test/250EQ.

Haha I hear ya. You might look like you could lactate but you wouldn't because nothing you're looking at running will skyrocket your prolactin. Anadrol maybe because it doesn't aromatize per se but it's sneaky the way it gets around that and can raise prolactin, but you're doing a short blast of it so you won't need cabergoline on hand. Caber is a "break glass in case of emergency" compound and is rarely needed.

With what you're looking to run you should be fine.

Sorry typed that out quick meant anadrol kickstart, with equipoise throughout. If I did equipoise id probably step down the test dose and make the total cycle length longer to maximize the benefits of it.

Glad to know I wont be producing milk anytime soon though . Never knew the estrogen sides of hcg so its good I’ve got evo. Easy to think “it isnt a steroid so why would I worry about estrogen” never even looked into it.

 

[ballin2504]

Hey guys my first cycle is now coming to an end with my last pin done on sunday. Made some real good gains and if you want to check that out do that.

Right now sitting at 103 and going to maintain that throughout my 8 week cruise, hopefully I can lean out even more before the next bulking phase begins.

For the cruise dosages:
125 mg pwk of test e
350 IU’s of HCG eod
Also @LevButlerov has suggested a fadogia based testbooster which Ill look into buying

Focus now is keeping up the intensity in the gym, boosting my cardio and getting that protein to 300g

Will get bloods before starting my next cycle also.

Im a bit stuck on what my next cycle should look like, I was originally thinking equipoise. Now Im leaning towards possibly Anadrol for the first 4 weeks then 3 weeks of just test then 6-8 weeks of Anavar to finish off and lean out a bit. Possible small cut for the end of summer.

Open to all suggestions from the evo community. Any critique/advice is always welcome.

Below are the flicks of my current physique

@trentwin1 I like Anadrol and eq in the next cycle. It would be a good gainer

 

[HarleyGuy]

If I did equipoise id probably step down the test dose

Yes run EQ long and keep your T/EQ ration at 2:1 to start. Take your test dose and divide by 2 and that's your starting EQ dose. A good standard launching pad with those two for someone looking to see how they respond to it.

Definitely no need to use HCG on cycle but post cycle use as above since you have a shit ton of it but your best bet is HCGenerate.

 

[SaintSoup]

Hey guys my first cycle is now coming to an end with my last pin done on sunday. Made some real good gains and if you want to check that out do that.

Right now sitting at 103 and going to maintain that throughout my 8 week cruise, hopefully I can lean out even more before the next bulking phase begins.

For the cruise dosages:
125 mg pwk of test e
350 IU’s of HCG eod
Also @LevButlerov has suggested a fadogia based testbooster which Ill look into buying

Focus now is keeping up the intensity in the gym, boosting my cardio and getting that protein to 300g

Will get bloods before starting my next cycle also.

Im a bit stuck on what my next cycle should look like, I was originally thinking equipoise. Now Im leaning towards possibly Anadrol for the first 4 weeks then 3 weeks of just test then 6-8 weeks of Anavar to finish off and lean out a bit. Possible small cut for the end of summer.

Open to all suggestions from the evo community. Any critique/advice is always welcome.

Below are the flicks of my current physique

Looking sick!!! Anavar is great for leaning out while not losing the gains, def correct there. Sadly we are out of stock of anavar for the next couple months otherwise I'd send you some from life-forge for your log T.T I'll let you know when it's next available incase the time frame works out.

 

[trentwin1]

Cruise Week 1 coming to a close.

Feeling good still chugging along in the gym. Putting a big focus on not losing intensity now I'm stepping down the gear. Still maintaining nicely at 103kg, managed to bump up the protein to ~ 300g hopefully I can bring that up even more. Theyre running a deal at costco 60 eggs for $25 so I snagged 2 of those going to be smashing down a shit ton of eggs a day. This cruise I'm still focusing heavily on getting 100% dialed, sleep, eating, training and supplementation I want to be 100% perfect. I was very happy with how my body responded on my first cycle and I want to set my self up to make some crazy gains next time around.

What are everyone's thoughts on what my AI should be on this level of test. When I was on 300 i was taking 0.25mg of arimidex twice a week, now I'm unsure how much to take. It will also be interesting to see how I feel in the next couple weeks as my test starts to decline to a physiological range. Should I still be expecting to make gains?

Starting my HCG most likely next week, or after I can source some bac water. Thanks to Life-Forge I'm getting hooked up with a top up on Cialis and MK, was thinking the MK will be awesome to boost my recovery in my cruise period and keep me looking full. And then of course the Cialis to just get some sick pumps!

Also austarlabs's Test e came yesterday so I'm all stocked up for my cruise to come. Will be updating on how it is once I pin it on Sunday. Check out the touchdown pics here. https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/austarlabs-com.107255/.

 

[trentwin1]

Looking sick!!! Anavar is great for leaning out while not losing the gains, def correct there. Sadly we are out of stock of anavar for the next couple months otherwise I'd send you some from life-forge for your log T.T I'll let you know when it's next available incase the time frame works out.

I'd love to try that. Still got just over 7 weeks left on my cruise so if It lines up with the start of my next cycle that'd be amazing!

 

[LevButlerov]

Cruise Week 1 coming to a close.

Feeling good still chugging along in the gym. Putting a big focus on not losing intensity now I'm stepping down the gear. Still maintaining nicely at 103kg, managed to bump up the protein to ~ 300g hopefully I can bring that up even more. Theyre running a deal at costco 60 eggs for $25 so I snagged 2 of those going to be smashing down a shit ton of eggs a day. This cruise I'm still focusing heavily on getting 100% dialed, sleep, eating, training and supplementation I want to be 100% perfect. I was very happy with how my body responded on my first cycle and I want to set my self up to make some crazy gains next time around.

What are everyone's thoughts on what my AI should be on this level of test. When I was on 300 i was taking 0.25mg of arimidex twice a week, now I'm unsure how much to take. It will also be interesting to see how I feel in the next couple weeks as my test starts to decline to a physiological range. Should I still be expecting to make gains?

Starting my HCG most likely next week, or after I can source some bac water. Thanks to Life-Forge I'm getting hooked up with a top up on Cialis and MK, was thinking the MK will be awesome to boost my recovery in my cruise period and keep me looking full. And then of course the Cialis to just get some sick pumps!

Also austarlabs's Test e came yesterday so I'm all stocked up for my cruise to come. Will be updating on how it is once I pin it on Sunday. Check out the touchdown pics here. https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/austarlabs-com.107255/.

Good cruise start, 103kg holding strong and 300g protein will keep you full and anabolic through the drop. @trentwin1

On that lower test dose run 0.25mg arimidex 1x/week, since you’ll aromatize less cruising.
MK and Cialis will keep pumps and recovery high, smart combo.

 

[SaintSoup]

Good cruise start, 103kg holding strong and 300g protein will keep you full and anabolic through the drop. @trentwin1

On that lower test dose run 0.25mg arimidex 1x/week, since you’ll aromatize less cruising.
MK and Cialis will keep pumps and recovery high, smart combo.

Agreed on .25xweekly. Nice to see people here aren't terrified of AI. The misinformation surrounding it online especially in places like the TRT subreddit is crazy. From people thinking its super dangerous to people taking 10mg a week. As Estrogen is still good for men and anabolic too, less is always more with it, but that doesnt mean it can't be used

 

[trentwin1]

Good cruise start, 103kg holding strong and 300g protein will keep you full and anabolic through the drop. @trentwin1

On that lower test dose run 0.25mg arimidex 1x/week, since you’ll aromatize less cruising.
MK and Cialis will keep pumps and recovery high, smart combo.

Awesome thanks @LevButlerov, I find keeping you happy with what I'm doing is the easiest way to know I'm doing things right . Appreciate the help.

 

[LevButlerov]

Awesome thanks @LevButlerov, I find keeping you happy with what I'm doing is the easiest way to know I'm doing things right . Appreciate the help.

EVO family love your way

 

[LevButlerov]

Agreed on .25xweekly. Nice to see people here aren't terrified of AI. The misinformation surrounding it online especially in places like the TRT subreddit is crazy. From people thinking its super dangerous to people taking 10mg a week. As Estrogen is still good for men and anabolic too, less is always more with it, but that doesnt mean it can't be used

Exactly thank you! just crazy no one wants to use an Ai and the "excuse" is that it messes with lipids? wtf! steroids mess with lipids, all mess with lipids. I find it nonsense to use eq to moderate estrogen when you can use aromasin. @SaintSoup
sorry i got a rant on this one


@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @s.gentz

 

[SaintSoup]

Exactly thank you! just crazy no one wants to use an Ai and the "excuse" is that it messes with lipids? wtf! steroids mess with lipids, all mess with lipids. I find it nonsense to use eq to moderate estrogen when you can use aromasin. @SaintSoup
sorry i got a rant on this one


@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @s.gentz

Also the studies that people quote that supposedly show AI long term is bad for bone health in young men were done on either women or super old men (like 90+) and in huuuge doses, and these people had other reasons for bad bone health. Its all nonsense.

 

[trentwin1]

Exactly thank you! just crazy no one wants to use an Ai and the "excuse" is that it messes with lipids? wtf! steroids mess with lipids, all mess with lipids. I find it nonsense to use eq to moderate estrogen when you can use aromasin. @SaintSoup
sorry i got a rant on this one


@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @s.gentz

From what Ive seen equipoise just aromatises less than testosterone right? Are people really taking eq as their form of AI?

 

[LevButlerov]

From what Ive seen equipoise just aromatises less than testosterone right? Are people really taking eq as their form of AI?

Not exactly, Eq modulates E2 @trentwin1 check our mega thread
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ios-a-study-of-equipoise-and-estrogen.105375/

 

[LevButlerov]

Also the studies that people quote that supposedly show AI long term is bad for bone health in young men were done on either women or super old men (like 90+) and in huuuge doses, and these people had other reasons for bad bone health. Its all nonsense.

Bad for bone health? lol take some calcium right @SaintSoup fully agree with you here.

 

[HarleyGuy]

I was checking up on your log and remembered something... this:

Anadrol for the first 4 weeks

Anadrol for 4 weeks can be pretty nasty depending on the dose. Are you content with trying 25mg ED whereas they usually come in 50mg tabs?

 

[Mobster]

Cruise Week 1 coming to a close.

Feeling good still chugging along in the gym. Putting a big focus on not losing intensity now I'm stepping down the gear. Still maintaining nicely at 103kg, managed to bump up the protein to ~ 300g hopefully I can bring that up even more. Theyre running a deal at costco 60 eggs for $25 so I snagged 2 of those going to be smashing down a shit ton of eggs a day. This cruise I'm still focusing heavily on getting 100% dialed, sleep, eating, training and supplementation I want to be 100% perfect. I was very happy with how my body responded on my first cycle and I want to set my self up to make some crazy gains next time around.

What are everyone's thoughts on what my AI should be on this level of test. When I was on 300 i was taking 0.25mg of arimidex twice a week, now I'm unsure how much to take. It will also be interesting to see how I feel in the next couple weeks as my test starts to decline to a physiological range. Should I still be expecting to make gains?

Starting my HCG most likely next week, or after I can source some bac water. Thanks to Life-Forge I'm getting hooked up with a top up on Cialis and MK, was thinking the MK will be awesome to boost my recovery in my cruise period and keep me looking full. And then of course the Cialis to just get some sick pumps!

Also austarlabs's Test e came yesterday so I'm all stocked up for my cruise to come. Will be updating on how it is once I pin it on Sunday. Check out the touchdown pics here. https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/austarlabs-com.107255/.

Intensity should always be mental not PED based although feeling 'all high test n sh*t' might make you 'feel' intense.

 

[Allupfromhere]

Exactly thank you! just crazy no one wants to use an Ai and the "excuse" is that it messes with lipids? wtf! steroids mess with lipids, all mess with lipids. I find it nonsense to use eq to moderate estrogen when you can use aromasin. @SaintSoup
sorry i got a rant on this one


@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @s.gentz

Have ran 25mg aromasin daily for months this year with tren on top and lipids were still in range.

 

[LevButlerov]

Have ran 25mg aromasin daily for months this year with tren on top and lipids were still in range.

impressive genetics but yes lipids dont matter as much for a bodybuilder imo @Allupfromhere

 

[Allupfromhere]

impressive genetics but yes lipids dont matter as much for a bodybuilder imo @Allupfromhere

Wish i was a body builder hahaha

 

[LevButlerov]

Wish i was a body builder hahaha

I mean all around guys who take gear lol

 

[HarleyGuy]

impressive genetics but yes lipids dont matter as much for a bodybuilder imo @Allupfromhere

Agreed. Mine are always fucked LOL. I'm considering running a low dose statin. My doc would easily give it to me because my lipids are often shit. Maybe if I came off for long enough they'd adjust but, who wants to do that LOL

 

[LevButlerov]

Agreed. Mine are always fucked LOL. I'm considering running a low dose statin. My doc would easily give it to me because my lipids are often shit. Maybe if I came off for long enough they'd adjust but, who wants to do that LOL

testosterone is made from cholesterol in the body fyi

 

[stevesmi]

Cruise Week 1 coming to a close.

Feeling good still chugging along in the gym. Putting a big focus on not losing intensity now I'm stepping down the gear. Still maintaining nicely at 103kg, managed to bump up the protein to ~ 300g hopefully I can bring that up even more. Theyre running a deal at costco 60 eggs for $25 so I snagged 2 of those going to be smashing down a shit ton of eggs a day. This cruise I'm still focusing heavily on getting 100% dialed, sleep, eating, training and supplementation I want to be 100% perfect. I was very happy with how my body responded on my first cycle and I want to set my self up to make some crazy gains next time around.

What are everyone's thoughts on what my AI should be on this level of test. When I was on 300 i was taking 0.25mg of arimidex twice a week, now I'm unsure how much to take. It will also be interesting to see how I feel in the next couple weeks as my test starts to decline to a physiological range. Should I still be expecting to make gains?

Starting my HCG most likely next week, or after I can source some bac water. Thanks to Life-Forge I'm getting hooked up with a top up on Cialis and MK, was thinking the MK will be awesome to boost my recovery in my cruise period and keep me looking full. And then of course the Cialis to just get some sick pumps!

Also austarlabs's Test e came yesterday so I'm all stocked up for my cruise to come. Will be updating on how it is once I pin it on Sunday. Check out the touchdown pics here. https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/austarlabs-com.107255/.

@trentwin1 Just make sure those eggs are high quality, man. A lot of times when you see a really good deal like that, they're selling the low quality eggs. I'm a big advocate for making sure the eggs are the highest quality possible.

 

[HarleyGuy]

testosterone is made from cholesterol in the body fyi

No I know. But at what point does a 50 year old on heart medication worry about plaque formation in the arteries etc. My lipids last time (albeit on cycle) was through the roof. I’m thinking adding in a statin as a preventative wouldn’t hurt.

But when I do my bloods after Nova Scotia in December we’ll see.

 

[ceo]

Cruise Week 1 coming to a close.

Feeling good still chugging along in the gym. Putting a big focus on not losing intensity now I'm stepping down the gear. Still maintaining nicely at 103kg, managed to bump up the protein to ~ 300g hopefully I can bring that up even more. Theyre running a deal at costco 60 eggs for $25 so I snagged 2 of those going to be smashing down a shit ton of eggs a day. This cruise I'm still focusing heavily on getting 100% dialed, sleep, eating, training and supplementation I want to be 100% perfect. I was very happy with how my body responded on my first cycle and I want to set my self up to make some crazy gains next time around.

What are everyone's thoughts on what my AI should be on this level of test. When I was on 300 i was taking 0.25mg of arimidex twice a week, now I'm unsure how much to take. It will also be interesting to see how I feel in the next couple weeks as my test starts to decline to a physiological range. Should I still be expecting to make gains?

Starting my HCG most likely next week, or after I can source some bac water. Thanks to Life-Forge I'm getting hooked up with a top up on Cialis and MK, was thinking the MK will be awesome to boost my recovery in my cruise period and keep me looking full. And then of course the Cialis to just get some sick pumps!

Also austarlabs's Test e came yesterday so I'm all stocked up for my cruise to come. Will be updating on how it is once I pin it on Sunday. Check out the touchdown pics here. https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/austarlabs-com.107255/.

Bros. That's good. You should increase the intensity. Listen to your body. Your body wants it and your body is ready to grow. @trentwin1

 

[ROIDDERS]

Cruise Week 1 coming to a close.

Feeling good still chugging along in the gym. Putting a big focus on not losing intensity now I'm stepping down the gear. Still maintaining nicely at 103kg, managed to bump up the protein to ~ 300g hopefully I can bring that up even more. Theyre running a deal at costco 60 eggs for $25 so I snagged 2 of those going to be smashing down a shit ton of eggs a day. This cruise I'm still focusing heavily on getting 100% dialed, sleep, eating, training and supplementation I want to be 100% perfect. I was very happy with how my body responded on my first cycle and I want to set my self up to make some crazy gains next time around.

What are everyone's thoughts on what my AI should be on this level of test. When I was on 300 i was taking 0.25mg of arimidex twice a week, now I'm unsure how much to take. It will also be interesting to see how I feel in the next couple weeks as my test starts to decline to a physiological range. Should I still be expecting to make gains?

Starting my HCG most likely next week, or after I can source some bac water. Thanks to Life-Forge I'm getting hooked up with a top up on Cialis and MK, was thinking the MK will be awesome to boost my recovery in my cruise period and keep me looking full. And then of course the Cialis to just get some sick pumps!

Also austarlabs's Test e came yesterday so I'm all stocked up for my cruise to come. Will be updating on how it is once I pin it on Sunday. Check out the touchdown pics here. https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/austarlabs-com.107255/.

That's a really good deal on eggs. Maybe a little too good though. @trentwin1 Maybe post up the carton so we can take a look at what it says.

 

[2Thick]

Cruise Week 1 coming to a close.

Feeling good still chugging along in the gym. Putting a big focus on not losing intensity now I'm stepping down the gear. Still maintaining nicely at 103kg, managed to bump up the protein to ~ 300g hopefully I can bring that up even more. Theyre running a deal at costco 60 eggs for $25 so I snagged 2 of those going to be smashing down a shit ton of eggs a day. This cruise I'm still focusing heavily on getting 100% dialed, sleep, eating, training and supplementation I want to be 100% perfect. I was very happy with how my body responded on my first cycle and I want to set my self up to make some crazy gains next time around.

What are everyone's thoughts on what my AI should be on this level of test. When I was on 300 i was taking 0.25mg of arimidex twice a week, now I'm unsure how much to take. It will also be interesting to see how I feel in the next couple weeks as my test starts to decline to a physiological range. Should I still be expecting to make gains?

Starting my HCG most likely next week, or after I can source some bac water. Thanks to Life-Forge I'm getting hooked up with a top up on Cialis and MK, was thinking the MK will be awesome to boost my recovery in my cruise period and keep me looking full. And then of course the Cialis to just get some sick pumps!

Also austarlabs's Test e came yesterday so I'm all stocked up for my cruise to come. Will be updating on how it is once I pin it on Sunday. Check out the touchdown pics here. https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/austarlabs-com.107255/.

@trentwin1 Keep up the good work, boss. I got a lot of respect for what you're doing here. The cycle looks fantastic and you're really pushing things.

 

[Ulter]

Awesome thanks @LevButlerov, I find keeping you happy with what I'm doing is the easiest way to know I'm doing things right . Appreciate the help.

Being able to adjust things on the fly and changing things up is definitely a strength. A lot of people stay stubborn and they want to stick to the same thing, so it's good that you're listening to suggestions and doing some different things. @trentwin1

 

[trentwin1]

@stevesmi @ROIDDERS eggs are definitely shit. Some caged grade 6 eggs. Just thought more eggs would be better than a few good quality ones. Moneys tight. Try to go organic with as much as I can but eggs arent cheap

 

[trentwin1]

Intensity should always be mental not PED based although feeling 'all high test n sh*t' might make you 'feel' intense.

100% agree. First leg day on the cruise was probably too intense. Had to get my missus to get the car and bring it to the front of the gym. Legs are fucked today. Did 3 sets of squats and then 4 sets of belt squats all to complete failure. Too much is better than too little I guess

 

[Allupfromhere]

100% agree. First leg day on the cruise was probably too intense. Had to get my missus to get the car and bring it to the front of the gym. Legs are fucked today. Did 3 sets of squats and then 4 sets of belt squats all to complete failure. Too much is better than too little I guess

Nah smash those bad boys like they owe you money, they're a big muscle they can take it.

Dont let me hear you say "i trained too intense" ever again.. thats how you meant to train, like a fucking animal

Much love brother

 

[trentwin1]

Nah smash those bad boys like they owe you money, they're a big muscle they can take it.

Dont let me hear you say "i trained too intense" ever again.. thats how you meant to train, like a fucking animal

Much love brother

Legs cramp up when I sit down to have a shit they definitely got smashed was bloody good tho. Didn’t think cialis on leg day would be as good as it was. Quads were pumped to fuckery

 

[trentwin1]

I was checking up on your log and remembered something... this:

Anadrol for 4 weeks can be pretty nasty depending on the dose. Are you content with trying 25mg ED whereas they usually come in 50mg tabs?

Yeah thats what I was thinking just something on the lighter side

 

[Allupfromhere]

Legs cramp up when I sit down to have a shit they definitely got smashed was bloody good tho. Didn’t think cialis on leg day would be as good as it was. Quads were pumped to fuckery

Yesss brother love this

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Exactly thank you! just crazy no one wants to use an Ai and the "excuse" is that it messes with lipids? wtf! steroids mess with lipids, all mess with lipids. I find it nonsense to use eq to moderate estrogen when you can use aromasin. @SaintSoup
sorry i got a rant on this one


@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @s.gentz

I'm glad to see this, I've been struggling to get my head around it and feel like a sitting duck. @stevesmi and @Mobster always recommend AI use on podcast episodes and I have arimidex and also @Life-Forge is always a call away if I really get stuck.

Can't a low dose be found that doesn't lead to crushing so you can take it as part of your cycle for those months? If not what's the reason? apart from not wanting to buy and take more stuff which isn't valid for during a cycle imho.

I started recording moods twice a day with Samsung Health (my tracker watches' app) but still just feel awesome most of the time.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Intensity should always be mental not PED based although feeling 'all high test n sh*t' might make you 'feel' intense.

We need to make some @Mobster Edits, layer your motivational monologues over techno music to increase feelings of intensity. It's incredible how well this works

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

@stevesmi @ROIDDERS eggs are definitely shit. Some caged grade 6 eggs. Just thought more eggs would be better than a few good quality ones. Moneys tight. Try to go organic with as much as I can but eggs arent cheap

I think you're right man, it's not forever. But the guys have good reason to ask, in the USA it's insane levels of depravity at chicken farms that I don't think we're bit enough for. I'm sure they're not great and have beem fed cardboard and shit but they were still not in the fridge right?

At the warehouse they're $13 for 20 and are probably the same type.

At the cbd farmers market in welly they're $20 for 30 and those are outdoor chickens eating insects and the like and are all good.

I was mixing and matching for a while but it was more important when I was carnivore and some weeks only eating eggs exclusively. Now it's eggs ans whey powder

 

[trentwin1]

I think you're right man, it's not forever. But the guys have good reason to ask, in the USA it's insane levels of depravity at chicken farms that I don't think we're bit enough for. I'm sure they're not great and have beem fed cardboard and shit but they were still not in the fridge right?

At the warehouse they're $13 for 20 and are probably the same type.

At the cbd farmers market in welly they're $20 for 30 and those are outdoor chickens eating insects and the like and are all good.

I was mixing and matching for a while but it was more important when I was carnivore and some weeks only eating eggs exclusively. Now it's eggs ans whey powder

Yeah nah not kept in the fridge, theyre probably fed shit but I feel like more is better haha. When I have a bit more money will definitely be investing in some free range organic stuff straight from a farm, but for now these will have to do I think.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Yeah nah not kept in the fridge, theyre probably fed shit but I feel like more is better haha. When I have a bit more money will definitely be investing in some free range organic stuff straight from a farm, but for now these will have to do I think.

Yeah bro I agree with that.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Legs cramp up when I sit down to have a shit they definitely got smashed was bloody good tho. Didn’t think cialis on leg day would be as good as it was. Quads were pumped to fuckery

Good job well done! I love when I sit down for a shit and my hamstrings don't like the toilet seat touching them, that's how I know it was a proper leg workout.

 

[trentwin1]

First pin of the austarlabs stuff today. Very nice no pip and looks great. Just doing 65mg twice a week at the moment so not the best judge and will have to see what its like when Im back on cycle but so far its bloody awesome.

Have a look at his stuff at https://austarlabs.com/ if youre interested

 

[trentwin1]

Also looking forward to getting in some Mk and a top up of cialis from @Life-Forge. I think the Mk will be an awesome boost to aid my recovery on the cruise. Definitely cant afford GH, so chose the next best thing looking forward to seeing what it does for me now that Ive stepped down the gear.

 

[LevButlerov]

First pin of the austarlabs stuff today. Very nice no pip and looks great. Just doing 65mg twice a week at the moment so not the best judge and will have to see what its like when Im back on cycle but so far its bloody awesome.

Have a look at his stuff at https://austarlabs.com/ if youre interested

That looks good, but @ his username here please @AuStarLabs , correct? @vanlife_gymbum
@trentwin1

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

First pin of the austarlabs stuff today. Very nice no pip and looks great. Just doing 65mg twice a week at the moment so not the best judge and will have to see what its like when Im back on cycle but so far its bloody awesome.

Have a look at his stuff at https://austarlabs.com/ if youre interested

Nice pictures bro

Where did you pin? I got the whole one inch one onto my upper side quad, fully anchored in... I think I'll leave it at that for now but I got the one and a half inch ones you told me about too

 

[trentwin1]

Nice pictures bro

Where did you pin? I got the whole one inch one onto my upper side quad, fully anchored in... I think I'll leave it at that for now but I got the one and a half inch ones you told me about too

Yeah thats the inch and a half dont put it in all the way on my outer quad. Its 23 gauge tho some thinner ones would be nice

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Yeah thats the inch and a half dont put it in all the way on my outer quad. Its 23 gauge tho some thinner ones would be nice

Try anchoring (all the way in, gentle pressure to hold straight) a one inch one and I am sure it'll hurt less and do less damage - I'm interested in how you go. If we keep refining our technique we'll be good before long and and be able to do it in the dark

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

That looks good, but @ his username here please @AuStarLabs , correct? @vanlife_gymbum
@trentwin1

Yup, you're correct @LevButlerov

I'm working with Rob from AUStarLabs NZ on this and he will be joining us on Evo shortly and have his own thread like the others.

Both @trentwin1 and I will be logging his testosterone and I'm very happy he's joining.

My first Evo post featured his gear and will always have a fond memory as the first thing I ever put in my ass

 

[Allupfromhere]

Good job well done! I love when I sit down for a shit and my hamstrings don't like the toilet seat touching them, that's how I know it was a proper leg workout.

I get this on the seated leg curl lol. Start of sitting normal, by the end it feels like someone has timber planks there haha

My first Evo post featured his gear and will always have a fond memory as the first thing I ever put in my ass

 

[HarleyGuy]

Try anchoring (all the way in, gentle pressure to hold straight) a one inch one and I am sure it'll hurt less and do less damage - I'm interested in how you go. If we keep refining our technique we'll be good before long and and be able to do it in the dark

@trentwin1 I love pin talk! I find with quads 1" is best and a 25g is where it's at. Quads can be a spicy spot where if you make a mistake in pinning they will let you know really fast. I go pretty high up my outer quad and have used 1.5" but if I'm around 15% bodyfat like now 1" is fine.

For lats or glutes including ventro you can do 1.5" easy with 23g and plunge. For delts 1" is good and 23g is fine for me with delts. For a really big dude with higher BF% he could use 1.5" on his quads no problems and probably should as the deeper the better.

 

[LevButlerov]

Yup, you're correct @LevButlerov

I'm working with Rob from AUStarLabs NZ on this and he will be joining us on Evo shortly and have his own thread like the others.

Both @trentwin1 and I will be logging his testosterone and I'm very happy he's joining.

My first Evo post featured his gear and will always have a fond memory as the first thing I ever put in my ass

Good info @vanlife_gymbum Rob should be thankful to you for doing all the work for him @AuStarLabs

 

[trentwin1]

@trentwin1 I love pin talk! I find with quads 1" is best and a 25g is where it's at. Quads can be a spicy spot where if you make a mistake in pinning they will let you know really fast. I go pretty high up my outer quad and have used 1.5" but if I'm around 15% bodyfat like now 1" is fine.

For lats or glutes including ventro you can do 1.5" easy with 23g and plunge. For delts 1" is good and 23g is fine for me with delts. For a really big dude with higher BF% he could use 1.5" on his quads no problems and probably should as the deeper the better.

Interesting I've only done glute and quad never had an issue except when I went straight through a vain on my quad and got quite a bit of blood. Havent needed to do others as Ive never injected more than 1.2ml of oils a week. Might need to next cycle though thatll step me up to ~ 3ml a week still relatively light. Lat and delt honestly scare me especially lat must be hard not to tense up surely?

 

[HarleyGuy]

Interesting I've only done glute and quad never had an issue except when I went straight through a vain on my quad and got quite a bit of blood. Havent needed to do others as Ive never injected more than 1.2ml of oils a week. Might need to next cycle though thatll step me up to ~ 3ml a week still relatively light. Lat and delt honestly scare me especially lat must be hard not to tense up surely?

Believe it or not lats are the smoothest and easiest to pin of all of my sites. Goes in like butter it can take 3CC easy and no PIP, ever. When I pin I don't go slow at all I jam it in so being at rest and not tensing up you just wait til your super relaxed and then plunge. Delts are my easiest site to pin and if I could choose one site without having to rotate I'd choose delts all day. You have three delt heads to choose from too and can rotate delt head sites. Most people use medial delt but you've front and rear as well. Delts can take 2CC no problem.

 

[trentwin1]

Believe it or not lats are the smoothest and easiest to pin of all of my sites. Goes in like butter it can take 3CC easy and no PIP, ever. When I pin I don't go slow at all I jam it in so being at rest and not tensing up you just wait til your super relaxed and then plunge. Delts are my easiest site to pin and if I could choose one site without having to rotate I'd choose delts all day. You have three delt heads to choose from too and can rotate delt head sites. Most people use medial delt but you've front and rear as well. Delts can take 2CC no problem.

Awesome thats very helpful thank you going to have a look at where exactly to do it so I can add those to my repertoire when needed.

 

[Allupfromhere]

Interesting I've only done glute and quad never had an issue except when I went straight through a vain on my quad and got quite a bit of blood. Havent needed to do others as Ive never injected more than 1.2ml of oils a week. Might need to next cycle though thatll step me up to ~ 3ml a week still relatively light. Lat and delt honestly scare me especially lat must be hard not to tense up surely?

Lats for the win bro trust me, watch in the mirror and lift arm and rest elbow on the wall then your not tense from holding your arm up

 

[trentwin1]

Cruise Day 11

Training is going really well at the moment despite everything else going on which is really nice. Still making good strength gains which is awesome, I guess my test levels are still elevated. Also sorting out my estrogen levels I think made me lose some water so Im loving the drier more vascular look it’s given me. Mates and family are starting to get a bit suspicious about how much bigger Ive gotten , only person who knows Ive hopped on is my missus.

Started Hcg yesterday going to run it for a couple weeks at 500 twice a week and see how I go. Looking forward to getting my balls back hahaha.

Chest day today, maxed out the dumbells in the gym which was a nice feeling, not that theyre that heavy. Did incline bench with the 54 kg’s (120lbs for you americans) for a few sets of 7. Think Im out growing the cityfitness I go to as all their shitty machines are far too light for me. Once I can afford a proper gym Im moving straight away. Definitely an investment.

Been taking the Mk for a few days too early to notice much but I do feel like my sleeps have been much deeper which is nice. Even if thats the only thing I notice its still great to feel more rested and recovered.

Decided on anadrol, eq and test for my next cycle. Probably 400test, 200eq a week with 25mg of anadrol preworkout. Touchdown post soon for the eq and anadrol i got from @kiwibulk. Really excited to start that and hard to wait if Im being honest. When I stop hcg I might just start, all my healthmarkers were fine I just wanted to get my balls working again. Open to advice on that and whether its a good idea or not.

 

[LevButlerov]

Cruise Day 11

Training is going really well at the moment despite everything else going on which is really nice. Still making good strength gains which is awesome, I guess my test levels are still elevated. Also sorting out my estrogen levels I think made me lose some water so Im loving the drier more vascular look it’s given me. Mates and family are starting to get a bit suspicious about how much bigger Ive gotten , only person who knows Ive hopped on is my missus.

Started Hcg yesterday going to run it for a couple weeks at 500 twice a week and see how I go. Looking forward to getting my balls back hahaha.

Chest day today, maxed out the dumbells in the gym which was a nice feeling, not that theyre that heavy. Did incline bench with the 54 kg’s (120lbs for you americans) for a few sets of 7. Think Im out growing the cityfitness I go to as all their shitty machines are far too light for me. Once I can afford a proper gym Im moving straight away. Definitely an investment.

Been taking the Mk for a few days too early to notice much but I do feel like my sleeps have been much deeper which is nice. Even if thats the only thing I notice its still great to feel more rested and recovered.

Decided on anadrol, eq and test for my next cycle. Probably 400test, 200eq a week with 25mg of anadrol preworkout. Touchdown post soon for the eq and anadrol i got from @kiwibulk. Really excited to start that and hard to wait if Im being honest. When I stop hcg I might just start, all my healthmarkers were fine I just wanted to get my balls working again. Open to advice on that and whether its a good idea or not.

Good chest day, 54kg presses are solid @trentwin1
The vascular dry look means e2 balance is right where it should be.

HCG at 500iu 2x per week is fine for a restart window, but finish that before jumping on the next cycle.
400mg test, 200mg EQ and 25mg anadrol preworkout is a clean combo, though you'll need some n2guard for cycle support or something similar.

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @s.gentz @Dreamer @Freki

 

[Dreamer]

Cruise Day 11

Training is going really well at the moment despite everything else going on which is really nice. Still making good strength gains which is awesome, I guess my test levels are still elevated. Also sorting out my estrogen levels I think made me lose some water so Im loving the drier more vascular look it’s given me. Mates and family are starting to get a bit suspicious about how much bigger Ive gotten , only person who knows Ive hopped on is my missus.

Started Hcg yesterday going to run it for a couple weeks at 500 twice a week and see how I go. Looking forward to getting my balls back hahaha.

Chest day today, maxed out the dumbells in the gym which was a nice feeling, not that theyre that heavy. Did incline bench with the 54 kg’s (120lbs for you americans) for a few sets of 7. Think Im out growing the cityfitness I go to as all their shitty machines are far too light for me. Once I can afford a proper gym Im moving straight away. Definitely an investment.

Been taking the Mk for a few days too early to notice much but I do feel like my sleeps have been much deeper which is nice. Even if thats the only thing I notice its still great to feel more rested and recovered.

Decided on anadrol, eq and test for my next cycle. Probably 400test, 200eq a week with 25mg of anadrol preworkout. Touchdown post soon for the eq and anadrol i got from @kiwibulk. Really excited to start that and hard to wait if Im being honest. When I stop hcg I might just start, all my healthmarkers were fine I just wanted to get my balls working again. Open to advice on that and whether its a good idea or not.

54kg DB is a nice press man, solid work, watch the HCG, I had a hard time with e2 with it sadly, took me awhile to dial in, but was great once I got it

 

[trentwin1]

54kg DB is a nice press man, solid work, watch the HCG, I had a hard time with e2 with it sadly, took me awhile to dial in, but was great once I got it

Oh yeah? What’d you end up finding worked for you in the end bro? Definitely dont want the gyno to start to come back.

 

[Dreamer]

Oh yeah? What’d you end up finding worked for you in the end bro? Definitely dont want the gyno to start to come back.

I split my dosages up to daily doses man, to avoid the peaks

 

[trentwin1]

I split my dosages up to daily doses man, to avoid the peaks

Oh yeah and how much were you running?

 

[Dreamer]

Oh yeah and how much were you running?

150 daily, but I was also not on test, I was on enclomiphene as I was going for fertility at the time

 

[trentwin1]

150 daily, but I was also not on test, I was on enclomiphene as I was going for fertility at the time

Good to know ill see how I go, going to look into upping the frequency though maybe am for the same 1000ius a week just more split up. Thanks for the help

 

[Allupfromhere]

Cruise Day 11

Training is going really well at the moment despite everything else going on which is really nice. Still making good strength gains which is awesome, I guess my test levels are still elevated. Also sorting out my estrogen levels I think made me lose some water so Im loving the drier more vascular look it’s given me. Mates and family are starting to get a bit suspicious about how much bigger Ive gotten , only person who knows Ive hopped on is my missus.

Started Hcg yesterday going to run it for a couple weeks at 500 twice a week and see how I go. Looking forward to getting my balls back hahaha.

Chest day today, maxed out the dumbells in the gym which was a nice feeling, not that theyre that heavy. Did incline bench with the 54 kg’s (120lbs for you americans) for a few sets of 7. Think Im out growing the cityfitness I go to as all their shitty machines are far too light for me. Once I can afford a proper gym Im moving straight away. Definitely an investment.

Been taking the Mk for a few days too early to notice much but I do feel like my sleeps have been much deeper which is nice. Even if thats the only thing I notice its still great to feel more rested and recovered.

Decided on anadrol, eq and test for my next cycle. Probably 400test, 200eq a week with 25mg of anadrol preworkout. Touchdown post soon for the eq and anadrol i got from @kiwibulk. Really excited to start that and hard to wait if Im being honest. When I stop hcg I might just start, all my healthmarkers were fine I just wanted to get my balls working again. Open to advice on that and whether its a good idea or not.

Hahaha its kinda nice deep down when people start getting suspicious, means we have made significant changes lol
54kg db bench is solid brother gotta be proud of that for sure.
Always good to gain control of estrogen and lose the bloated watery look. Should see how dry you can get when you tank it not that im recommending you do though!

New cycle looks good brother and should see some solid gains if you keep everything tight

 

[trentwin1]

Hahaha its kinda nice deep down when people start getting suspicious, means we have made significant changes lol
54kg db bench is solid brother gotta be proud of that for sure.
Always good to gain control of estrogen and lose the bloated watery look. Should see how dry you can get when you tank it not that im recommending you do though!

New cycle looks good brother and should see some solid gains if you keep everything tight

Thanks a lot man really looking forward to the next cycle. Not so keen on the idea of crashing my e2 tho . Something about dry joints, feeling like shit with no libido dosnt sound worth the dry look .

 

[Allupfromhere]

Something about dry joints, feeling like shit with no libido dosnt sound worth the dry look .

Believe me brother isn't

 

[trentwin1]

Cruise Day 12 (Yesterday) - Back Day

Training was awesome today felt so strong and got the best pump I've had in a while. Dont know whats going on at the moment I'm off cycle but still making crazy strength gains and look really good. Even my mate who I havent seen in a week said I look bigger. Might be the lowered e2 or maybe the Mk has me looking a bit fuller. Definitely not complaining. Mind muscle connection is insane and getting DOMS in muscles I havent gotten in a while, they arent bad though and I recover fast enough to be 100% for the next sesh.

Todays Training:
T-bar row 5Plates - 4 sets of 10,9,8,5
Low Cable Row - 120kg 3*12
Lat Pulldown - 110Kg 3*8
Preacher Curls - 40kg 4 sets of 7
Single arm Hammer Curls on Preacher - 16 kg 2*8
Reverse Curls - 30 kg bar 2*15
Dumbell Rear Delt Fly - 4 sets of 12 with 12kg

Eating today: got in 3900 Cals with 290g of protein, Only 350 grams of carbs today though too much fat in my diet I really struggle to get in enough carbs. Probably all the dairy and had bacon in the morning for breakfast. Second meal was chicken and rice and then for dinner had Mince and Pasta. With a few shakes in between, Going to start adding honey and bannana to the shakes with less milk, maybe chuck in some egg whites. Going to try cut down on the fatty shit so I can get some more carbs in.

Will update soon with day 13, after I figure out my meals. Sitting here in agony after another fucked leg day

 

[LevButlerov]

Cruise Day 12 (Yesterday) - Back Day

Training was awesome today felt so strong and got the best pump I've had in a while. Dont know whats going on at the moment I'm off cycle but still making crazy strength gains and look really good. Even my mate who I havent seen in a week said I look bigger. Might be the lowered e2 or maybe the Mk has me looking a bit fuller. Definitely not complaining. Mind muscle connection is insane and getting DOMS in muscles I havent gotten in a while, they arent bad though and I recover fast enough to be 100% for the next sesh.

Todays Training:
T-bar row 5Plates - 4 sets of 10,9,8,5
Low Cable Row - 120kg 3*12
Lat Pulldown - 110Kg 3*8
Preacher Curls - 40kg 4 sets of 7
Single arm Hammer Curls on Preacher - 16 kg 2*8
Reverse Curls - 30 kg bar 2*15
Dumbell Rear Delt Fly - 4 sets of 12 with 12kg

Eating today: got in 3900 Cals with 290g of protein, Only 350 grams of carbs today though too much fat in my diet I really struggle to get in enough carbs. Probably all the dairy and had bacon in the morning for breakfast. Second meal was chicken and rice and then for dinner had Mince and Pasta. With a few shakes in between, Going to start adding honey and bannana to the shakes with less milk, maybe chuck in some egg whites. Going to try cut down on the fatty shit so I can get some more carbs in.

Will update soon with day 13, after I figure out my meals. Sitting here in agony after another fucked leg day

Good back day, heavy rows and pulldowns hit it right! lat pull down is big but we need pull ups too.
DOMS with fast recovery is good, you're recovering fast @trentwin1

Diet looks solid at 3900 cals and protein push over 300 you're close!

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @s.gentz @Dreamer @Freki
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy @Madmax46

 

[stevesmi]

Cruise Day 12 (Yesterday) - Back Day

Training was awesome today felt so strong and got the best pump I've had in a while. Dont know whats going on at the moment I'm off cycle but still making crazy strength gains and look really good. Even my mate who I havent seen in a week said I look bigger. Might be the lowered e2 or maybe the Mk has me looking a bit fuller. Definitely not complaining. Mind muscle connection is insane and getting DOMS in muscles I havent gotten in a while, they arent bad though and I recover fast enough to be 100% for the next sesh.

Todays Training:
T-bar row 5Plates - 4 sets of 10,9,8,5
Low Cable Row - 120kg 3*12
Lat Pulldown - 110Kg 3*8
Preacher Curls - 40kg 4 sets of 7
Single arm Hammer Curls on Preacher - 16 kg 2*8
Reverse Curls - 30 kg bar 2*15
Dumbell Rear Delt Fly - 4 sets of 12 with 12kg

Eating today: got in 3900 Cals with 290g of protein, Only 350 grams of carbs today though too much fat in my diet I really struggle to get in enough carbs. Probably all the dairy and had bacon in the morning for breakfast. Second meal was chicken and rice and then for dinner had Mince and Pasta. With a few shakes in between, Going to start adding honey and bannana to the shakes with less milk, maybe chuck in some egg whites. Going to try cut down on the fatty shit so I can get some more carbs in.

Will update soon with day 13, after I figure out my meals. Sitting here in agony after another fucked leg day

@trentwin1 I'm liking the different exercises you're putting together. Nice job on the T-bar rows and nice job on the preacher curls. They look really good.

 

[2Thick]

Cruise Day 12 (Yesterday) - Back Day

Training was awesome today felt so strong and got the best pump I've had in a while. Dont know whats going on at the moment I'm off cycle but still making crazy strength gains and look really good. Even my mate who I havent seen in a week said I look bigger. Might be the lowered e2 or maybe the Mk has me looking a bit fuller. Definitely not complaining. Mind muscle connection is insane and getting DOMS in muscles I havent gotten in a while, they arent bad though and I recover fast enough to be 100% for the next sesh.

Todays Training:
T-bar row 5Plates - 4 sets of 10,9,8,5
Low Cable Row - 120kg 3*12
Lat Pulldown - 110Kg 3*8
Preacher Curls - 40kg 4 sets of 7
Single arm Hammer Curls on Preacher - 16 kg 2*8
Reverse Curls - 30 kg bar 2*15
Dumbell Rear Delt Fly - 4 sets of 12 with 12kg

Eating today: got in 3900 Cals with 290g of protein, Only 350 grams of carbs today though too much fat in my diet I really struggle to get in enough carbs. Probably all the dairy and had bacon in the morning for breakfast. Second meal was chicken and rice and then for dinner had Mince and Pasta. With a few shakes in between, Going to start adding honey and bannana to the shakes with less milk, maybe chuck in some egg whites. Going to try cut down on the fatty shit so I can get some more carbs in.

Will update soon with day 13, after I figure out my meals. Sitting here in agony after another fucked leg day

The training here looks fantastic if you ask me. Reverse curls and single arm hammer curls on preacher is looking good and I love the dumbbell reel Delt flys as well. @trentwin1

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

The training here looks fantastic if you ask me. Reverse curls and single arm hammer curls on preacher is looking good and I love the dumbbell reel Delt flys as well. @trentwin1

Awesome - I'll take his routine and give it a try too

 

[Ulter]

Cruise Day 12 (Yesterday) - Back Day

Training was awesome today felt so strong and got the best pump I've had in a while. Dont know whats going on at the moment I'm off cycle but still making crazy strength gains and look really good. Even my mate who I havent seen in a week said I look bigger. Might be the lowered e2 or maybe the Mk has me looking a bit fuller. Definitely not complaining. Mind muscle connection is insane and getting DOMS in muscles I havent gotten in a while, they arent bad though and I recover fast enough to be 100% for the next sesh.

Todays Training:
T-bar row 5Plates - 4 sets of 10,9,8,5
Low Cable Row - 120kg 3*12
Lat Pulldown - 110Kg 3*8
Preacher Curls - 40kg 4 sets of 7
Single arm Hammer Curls on Preacher - 16 kg 2*8
Reverse Curls - 30 kg bar 2*15
Dumbell Rear Delt Fly - 4 sets of 12 with 12kg

Eating today: got in 3900 Cals with 290g of protein, Only 350 grams of carbs today though too much fat in my diet I really struggle to get in enough carbs. Probably all the dairy and had bacon in the morning for breakfast. Second meal was chicken and rice and then for dinner had Mince and Pasta. With a few shakes in between, Going to start adding honey and bannana to the shakes with less milk, maybe chuck in some egg whites. Going to try cut down on the fatty shit so I can get some more carbs in.

Will update soon with day 13, after I figure out my meals. Sitting here in agony after another fucked leg day

the preacher curls look really good and so do the T-bar row five plates and I like the reverse curls as well. @trentwin1 Also you're getting 300 g of protein. That's not bad at all.

 

[Allupfromhere]

Cruise Day 12 (Yesterday) - Back Day

Training was awesome today felt so strong and got the best pump I've had in a while. Dont know whats going on at the moment I'm off cycle but still making crazy strength gains and look really good. Even my mate who I havent seen in a week said I look bigger. Might be the lowered e2 or maybe the Mk has me looking a bit fuller. Definitely not complaining. Mind muscle connection is insane and getting DOMS in muscles I havent gotten in a while, they arent bad though and I recover fast enough to be 100% for the next sesh.

Todays Training:
T-bar row 5Plates - 4 sets of 10,9,8,5
Low Cable Row - 120kg 3*12
Lat Pulldown - 110Kg 3*8
Preacher Curls - 40kg 4 sets of 7
Single arm Hammer Curls on Preacher - 16 kg 2*8
Reverse Curls - 30 kg bar 2*15
Dumbell Rear Delt Fly - 4 sets of 12 with 12kg

Eating today: got in 3900 Cals with 290g of protein, Only 350 grams of carbs today though too much fat in my diet I really struggle to get in enough carbs. Probably all the dairy and had bacon in the morning for breakfast. Second meal was chicken and rice and then for dinner had Mince and Pasta. With a few shakes in between, Going to start adding honey and bannana to the shakes with less milk, maybe chuck in some egg whites. Going to try cut down on the fatty shit so I can get some more carbs in.

Will update soon with day 13, after I figure out my meals. Sitting here in agony after another fucked leg day

Huge day brother 5 plates on the tbar is some genuine heavy load for anyone big time thats an amazing effort. Its good your still progressing it means you still engaged and pushing hard. Too many think that strength has dropped off after cycle because of the lack of gear but a big part of it lack of effort to hold onto the newly gained muscle.

Keep slaying it brother

 

[ROIDDERS]

Cruise Day 12 (Yesterday) - Back Day

Training was awesome today felt so strong and got the best pump I've had in a while. Dont know whats going on at the moment I'm off cycle but still making crazy strength gains and look really good. Even my mate who I havent seen in a week said I look bigger. Might be the lowered e2 or maybe the Mk has me looking a bit fuller. Definitely not complaining. Mind muscle connection is insane and getting DOMS in muscles I havent gotten in a while, they arent bad though and I recover fast enough to be 100% for the next sesh.

Todays Training:
T-bar row 5Plates - 4 sets of 10,9,8,5
Low Cable Row - 120kg 3*12
Lat Pulldown - 110Kg 3*8
Preacher Curls - 40kg 4 sets of 7
Single arm Hammer Curls on Preacher - 16 kg 2*8
Reverse Curls - 30 kg bar 2*15
Dumbell Rear Delt Fly - 4 sets of 12 with 12kg

Eating today: got in 3900 Cals with 290g of protein, Only 350 grams of carbs today though too much fat in my diet I really struggle to get in enough carbs. Probably all the dairy and had bacon in the morning for breakfast. Second meal was chicken and rice and then for dinner had Mince and Pasta. With a few shakes in between, Going to start adding honey and bannana to the shakes with less milk, maybe chuck in some egg whites. Going to try cut down on the fatty shit so I can get some more carbs in.

Will update soon with day 13, after I figure out my meals. Sitting here in agony after another fucked leg day

@trentwin1 I'm liking the different training exercises that you're doing. I like the preacher curls and I like the lateral pull downs. They are amazing for sure.

 

[ceo]

Cruise Day 12 (Yesterday) - Back Day

Training was awesome today felt so strong and got the best pump I've had in a while. Dont know whats going on at the moment I'm off cycle but still making crazy strength gains and look really good. Even my mate who I havent seen in a week said I look bigger. Might be the lowered e2 or maybe the Mk has me looking a bit fuller. Definitely not complaining. Mind muscle connection is insane and getting DOMS in muscles I havent gotten in a while, they arent bad though and I recover fast enough to be 100% for the next sesh.

Todays Training:
T-bar row 5Plates - 4 sets of 10,9,8,5
Low Cable Row - 120kg 3*12
Lat Pulldown - 110Kg 3*8
Preacher Curls - 40kg 4 sets of 7
Single arm Hammer Curls on Preacher - 16 kg 2*8
Reverse Curls - 30 kg bar 2*15
Dumbell Rear Delt Fly - 4 sets of 12 with 12kg

Eating today: got in 3900 Cals with 290g of protein, Only 350 grams of carbs today though too much fat in my diet I really struggle to get in enough carbs. Probably all the dairy and had bacon in the morning for breakfast. Second meal was chicken and rice and then for dinner had Mince and Pasta. With a few shakes in between, Going to start adding honey and bannana to the shakes with less milk, maybe chuck in some egg whites. Going to try cut down on the fatty shit so I can get some more carbs in.

Will update soon with day 13, after I figure out my meals. Sitting here in agony after another fucked leg day

Bros. I give you a lot of credit on this. It's looking fantastic. The different training that you're doing is definitely on point. @trentwin1

 

[trentwin1]

Cruise day 13 - Dinnner to be eaten

Thanks for the positive responses on the last post awesome to hear! Really appreciate the advice aswell. Feeling really good with training at the moment, once food is 100% dialed in Ill be very happy. In saying that though protein is coming up.

Eating so far (1 meal left)
240grams protein
300grams carbs
90 grams fat.

Added in the egg white, with banana and honey into my protein shakes today just to get the carbs up a bit. Also switched half of the milk with egg whites to lower my fat slightly. Looking good still have a shake and dinner left so ill be easily over 300 grams by the days end.

Leg day today and probably the best one in a while.
Training
Heel elevated high bar squats - 180 for 5 two sets, then did 140 for 12 to finish off with squats
Seated leg curls - full stack 6*12
Calf raises
Adductor machine - full stack 4*10
Finished off quads with the stack of the leg extension for two sets

Full stacking almost every machine now, a lil concerning for future progression haha. Might invest in a gympin so i can add plates to the stacks. Had to leave quads last today they were cramping hard after squats. Hit every set to full failure. Also loving the adductors need to get my legs lookin wider.