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[BuryMeBig]

Sigh.....

KRAZIEONE

figured... look all my point is, is TNE thats water based has almost always caused me pip.. not only me, but 90% of its users as well... so that goes to tell me that all my boys and I are just getting bunk gear? hahaha ahh anyhow if its pain free great man, im honestly happy for you, for you may have a easy solution for those that wish to use it..

 

[krazieone56]

figured... look all my point is, is TNE thats water based has almost always caused me pip.. not only me, but 90% of its users as well... so that goes to tell me that all my boys and I are just getting bunk gear? hahaha ahh anyhow if its pain free great man, im honestly happy for you, for you may have a easy solution for those that wish to use it..

Pain doesn't equal bunk it means poorly made. I make suspension that is painless and will knock ur socks off guaranteed.

KRAZIEONE

 

[gearline]

Not sure if it was talked about in this thread I didn't read all 290 pages was there any raw suppliers people are big fans of.. Sorry if it was talked about any experience...

 

[bobsyouruncle]

Sadly it's jokers like this guy that keep me from sharing my brews on here oh well I guess the internet drama prevails I'll keep pounding out awesome gear and if anyone has any questions or needs help you can pm me


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[krazieone56]

Sadly it's jokers like this guy that keep me from sharing my brews on here oh well I guess the internet drama prevails I'll keep pounding out awesome gear and if anyone has any questions or needs help you can pm me


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Haters gonna hate bro. Remember that.

KRAZIEONE

 

[BuryMeBig]

Sadly it's jokers like this guy that keep me from sharing my brews on here oh well I guess the internet drama prevails I'll keep pounding out awesome gear and if anyone has any questions or needs help you can pm me


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oh its jokers like this guy that keep you from sharing your brews on here? YOU first off are the punk ass that keeps causing the drama around here with all your little smart ass POS comments of yours, and personally you can shuve your brews up your ass bro I dont need shit worth brews from you bro, I can get what ever brews I want from the same people that stand up on stage beside me, but let me assure you from the first post I made in here, you, my friend, have been nothing but rude and ignorant why? well kraize said it, unfortunately, haters gonna hate. So if your going to leave comments in here like that, why the hell'd you even make this thread? I read every dam page of it... and you know whats funny? HALF of the shits nothing but drama... so I find it funny that I join, leave a few comments not even attacking anyone, yet on the other hand am attacked as I expected and let me show you how;

Maybe eo is where it should be but that looks like a high fill for 100ml I'd be interested to see how much it actually is and you can scoff at the pantyhose if you want to but you said there was at least one large chunk in there I'm just trying to help you out you're obviously filtering this through a quality filter when you're all said and done but whatever do whatever you want I haven't ever bought oil from eBay I just buy from a med supply company for the most part but if I got lumpy oil and I was too cheap to buy quality oil I would certainly give the pantyhose then coffee filter then .45 or .2 filter a try but like I said do whatever you want


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Hey brother I certainly appreciated your input on the matter, I truly ddid, if you felt that I scoffed the idea of using pantyhose, it was not intended, its just not in my bag of tricks brother... There's just different means of filtering it out that could be a bit more sanitary more or less, or less likly to introduce more shit into my "filtered" oil then to run it through some pantyhose that were made in some sweat shop in the Philipines or some shit.. but I assure you no negative connotation was intended towards you or your level of expertise in the world of UG brewing bro... I appretiated your efforts in trying to help, but at the same time you obviously put just as much effort into your intentions of helping, as you did to try and "scoff" at the ebay oils I purchased, in which you felt it was necessary and somehow insightful to go as far as calling me cheap? Come on guy..
"do whatever you want I haven't ever bought oil from eBay I just buy from a med supply company for the most part but if I got lumpy oil and I was too cheap to buy quality oil I would certainly give the pantyhose then coffee filter then .45 or .2 filter a try but like I said do whatever you want"

which by the way the "Filtered 100% Organic Grapeseed oil" in which apparently your not to cheap to buy right? maybe you dont know, is one of there more "expensive" oils that your "med supply company" carries brotha... the same company of which i've purchased from just a few times... or enough times to be sick Evett's horse shit of lies...the only thing that company is, and I say this because i've used them enough times to say so... is there convenient, not quality... there convenient... for who? the kitchen chemist, hahaha this "med lab supply company"... because one things for certain is, No legit clinical laboratory, is going to purchase there supply's from that place no chance.. anyhow ive tried quite a few different oils my man, have forked over the funds for reagents, USP's, organic's, and now I can say ebay oils.. lol and one thing ill tell you "Uncle," is if I made my gear with this ebay oil, filtering it the way I do, and blended my carriers that i've been using as my "carrier" and made a batch with all regeants, id bet you 20grams.... you couldn't tell me which was which... no chance.
But your quick to make assumptions my man I must say haha here again...where I base mine off nothing but facts brother.. in your next comment seems you try scoff me personally with nothing that seems of stable grounds to even do so bro... seems like you kind of just wrote some shit, hoping it'd make sense.. just like your last comment where you, im not sure why or perhaps you were speaking to someone else? in regards to TNE being more likely to crash blah blah blah....great! and the Lakers beat the supersonics! Whats your issue? Have I offended you in some way for you to make a claim based off a "ebay sample pack" of oils that were in small quantity, that way I can do what... i've done for however long I have... and by doing that, im not like some fools on all the forums brother, I see no reason to hold info back whether its a golden recipe, or by simply contributing by sharing my experiences... which I feel is actually valuable... Anyhow im done on that subject brother.. you created this thread, im assuming because you are also of "limited experience" like you mentioned in brewing so tried to seek information.. Great place to start... based on the fact that as of August..what.. 3 months ago? you werent familiar with that of MCT oil and needed a test prop recipe about 2 months ago... anyhow, you keep those brews to yourself, mean time ask away brother! but like you said though, I could be wrong... of which you were but hey, its all good brother, im not here to compare nuts or bodies, I leave that for when on stage brother.. here I like to talk about and share things with like minded people, which you my friend obviously are not.. so if so cool I apologize.. kraize, your obviously no different... just haters is all... grow up I didnt come here to talk shit, but you obviously felt it was necessary to when I left my opinion on water based TNE, what'd you say? go back and read that POS comment you left towards me THEN COME TELL ME HATERS GONNA HATE! God dam chump. one way thinker you are arent you.

 

[BuryMeBig]

there were some cool dudes in this thread and to bad I got a bitter taste in my mouth so early to even want to step a foot back in here not getting a chance to speak with some of them... Cheers Uncle Bob, and you as well kraize! salut!

 

[Midnight]

Shit just got real up in here. Lol.

 

[rickyj]

How do you best sterilize oils, wether they be in a vial, or a pre-loaded pin...............under boiled water for 15 mins ?

 

[bobsyouruncle]

How do you best sterilize oils, wether they be in a vial, or a pre-loaded pin...............under boiled water for 15 mins ?

Through a filter most guys start with a syringe filter and after a few brews they switch to a bottletop setup


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[rickyj]

I meant for bacteria, or is a filter sufficient for that to ?

 

[Loadcoil78]

The ba should take care of what the filter doesn't.

 

[userbrah]

figured... look all my point is, is TNE thats water based has almost always caused me pip.. not only me, but 90% of its users as well... so that goes to tell me that all my boys and I are just getting bunk gear? hahaha ahh anyhow if its pain free great man, im honestly happy for you, for you may have a easy solution for those that wish to use it..

Not true.
If its not micronized it hurts slightly upon injection.
Next day no pip.
Speak for yourself, ive used animal grade suspension as well, the old school shit that clogs needles.
Water based suspension hurts less and is more effective than oil based TNE in regards to how fast it hits the blood stream.
You can also pin it with a 30g...
Pip is not bad at all. Should be non existent the following day. I pin suspension twice daily EVERYDAY.

 

[krazieone56]

oh its jokers like this guy that keep you from sharing your brews on here? YOU first off are the punk ass that keeps causing the drama around here with all your little smart ass POS comments of yours, and personally you can shuve your brews up your ass bro I dont need shit worth brews from you bro, I can get what ever brews I want from the same people that stand up on stage beside me, but let me assure you from the first post I made in here, you, my friend, have been nothing but rude and ignorant why? well kraize said it, unfortunately, haters gonna hate. So if your going to leave comments in here like that, why the hell'd you even make this thread? I read every dam page of it... and you know whats funny? HALF of the shits nothing but drama... so I find it funny that I join, leave a few comments not even attacking anyone, yet on the other hand am attacked as I expected and let me show you how;



Hey brother I certainly appreciated your input on the matter, I truly ddid, if you felt that I scoffed the idea of using pantyhose, it was not intended, its just not in my bag of tricks brother... There's just different means of filtering it out that could be a bit more sanitary more or less, or less likly to introduce more shit into my "filtered" oil then to run it through some pantyhose that were made in some sweat shop in the Philipines or some shit.. but I assure you no negative connotation was intended towards you or your level of expertise in the world of UG brewing bro... I appretiated your efforts in trying to help, but at the same time you obviously put just as much effort into your intentions of helping, as you did to try and "scoff" at the ebay oils I purchased, in which you felt it was necessary and somehow insightful to go as far as calling me cheap? Come on guy..
"do whatever you want I haven't ever bought oil from eBay I just buy from a med supply company for the most part but if I got lumpy oil and I was too cheap to buy quality oil I would certainly give the pantyhose then coffee filter then .45 or .2 filter a try but like I said do whatever you want"

which by the way the "Filtered 100% Organic Grapeseed oil" in which apparently your not to cheap to buy right? maybe you dont know, is one of there more "expensive" oils that your "med supply company" carries brotha... the same company of which i've purchased from just a few times... or enough times to be sick Evett's horse shit of lies...the only thing that company is, and I say this because i've used them enough times to say so... is there convenient, not quality... there convenient... for who? the kitchen chemist, hahaha this "med lab supply company"... because one things for certain is, No legit clinical laboratory, is going to purchase there supply's from that place no chance.. anyhow ive tried quite a few different oils my man, have forked over the funds for reagents, USP's, organic's, and now I can say ebay oils.. lol and one thing ill tell you "Uncle," is if I made my gear with this ebay oil, filtering it the way I do, and blended my carriers that i've been using as my "carrier" and made a batch with all regeants, id bet you 20grams.... you couldn't tell me which was which... no chance.
But your quick to make assumptions my man I must say haha here again...where I base mine off nothing but facts brother.. in your next comment seems you try scoff me personally with nothing that seems of stable grounds to even do so bro... seems like you kind of just wrote some shit, hoping it'd make sense.. just like your last comment where you, im not sure why or perhaps you were speaking to someone else? in regards to TNE being more likely to crash blah blah blah....great! and the Lakers beat the supersonics! Whats your issue? Have I offended you in some way for you to make a claim based off a "ebay sample pack" of oils that were in small quantity, that way I can do what... i've done for however long I have... and by doing that, im not like some fools on all the forums brother, I see no reason to hold info back whether its a golden recipe, or by simply contributing by sharing my experiences... which I feel is actually valuable... Anyhow im done on that subject brother.. you created this thread, im assuming because you are also of "limited experience" like you mentioned in brewing so tried to seek information.. Great place to start... based on the fact that as of August..what.. 3 months ago? you werent familiar with that of MCT oil and needed a test prop recipe about 2 months ago... anyhow, you keep those brews to yourself, mean time ask away brother! but like you said though, I could be wrong... of which you were but hey, its all good brother, im not here to compare nuts or bodies, I leave that for when on stage brother.. here I like to talk about and share things with like minded people, which you my friend obviously are not.. so if so cool I apologize.. kraize, your obviously no different... just haters is all... grow up I didnt come here to talk shit, but you obviously felt it was necessary to when I left my opinion on water based TNE, what'd you say? go back and read that POS comment you left towards me THEN COME TELL ME HATERS GONNA HATE! God dam chump. one way thinker you are arent you.

OK one. Don't call members names. Its against forum rules. We don't do that here.

Two. This is bobs mine and Matty's thread started long ago. Ya some drama happened because of a guy who was unstable.

Three Bob makes great stuff and is knowledgeable. He tries something new with a bit of my input seeing if it could be done. No reason to down on a person trying to be innovative.

That being said, we are all here to help eachother and you did come in laughing and kind of putting him down hence the responses you got.

So remember we r all family here. Family fights and then settle it.


KRAZIEONE

 

[bobsyouruncle]

Thanks krazie well said


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[krazieone56]

Thanks krazie well said


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NP bro

KRAZIEONE

 

[caveman72]

it would be a much appreciated.if you all or some one in general could give me a legit raws Guy. or even if someone Here wants to help one out. I've been studying on brewing.can't afford undersides ugl.so I'll make my own. was gonna use redlion. heard they take to long but good price. I got big China raw company's emails. scared to use them there bottomed looking for a local that sales ten to 20 grams just for my first brew. please remember when you got tired of getting ripped and wanted to do first brew it will help thanks

caveman72 using not abusing

 

[Loadcoil78]

Got my vial in today. I think I'm gonna fill it with 3ml syringe and a Watson

 

[caveman72]

waiting on my powder gonna make prop don't want to take chance on messing up with bad pip gonna 5/15 BA bb.100% eo. any suggestions. gonna do deca as well recipe is from af.board old thread some with bb. some without.well only test e.without. I was just out of curiosity was gonna see if prop could be made with canola is it possible just. for learning viscosity between. gso,sesame, cotton, I know eo.is best but I'll learn trial error but I'm sure all eo.for prop or 50/50gso eo. ill give results and might have a few questions I read you're thread daily good job I'm poor 42 old Mr.teen mo. 92 winner gonna get back on stage tired of glorified undersides ugl.some sponsors so gonna do my own thanks for giving me the idea and courage I'm a cook so I can cook anything with practice

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[krazieone56]

I'd you are trying to avoid pip DO NOT use eo bro. Gso is best.

KRAZIEONE

 

[Loadcoil78]

I did 100 mg/ml with 3/15 in GSO. Just a little pip.

 

[Z28blak]

Bro check this out helped me learn a lot back in the day


http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...ed-kitchen-chemists-cookbook-post7050120.html


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[caveman72]

thank you all three and for cookbook as well Love the brother hood love of our forum

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[wowstrongarms]

I'd you are trying to avoid pip DO NOT use eo bro. Gso is best.

KRAZIEONE

This.

I don't know where the whole "eo gives pipless brews" idea came from. I've played with quite a few carrier oils and nothing makes a difference pip wise. You can make a smoother pin but using a thinner oil, but no difference in pip.

 

[jaybird1120]

Hey Guy Im new around the forum and wanted some help on finding a legit source for some powders. Ive been looking into a few companies on Made-in-china.com not sure if that is a legit place to find sources but figured Id ask you guys whom are experienced in this area.

 

[Hammer-Anabolics]

I make TNE in oil that will run through a slin pin and hit like a fucking HAMMER and a little bit of pip never hurt anybody lol lol

 

[krazieone56]

I make TNE in oil that will run through a slin pin and hit like a fucking HAMMER and a little bit of pip never hurt anybody lol lol

If ur doing that why not just make test suspension that's micronized. Zero pip strong as shit in ten min

KRAZIEONE

 

[BuryMeBig]

I make TNE in oil that will run through a slin pin and hit like a fucking HAMMER and a little bit of pip never hurt anybody lol lol

hahaha thats what im talking about.. love the correlation that was hilarious haha

 

[Hammer-Anabolics]

I have had lots of experience with many suspension recipes over the years and have had better results with oil brother. But I'm always open to new suggestions.

If ur doing that why not just make test suspension that's micronized. Zero pip strong as shit in ten min

KRAZIEONE

 

[krazieone56]

I have had lots of experience with many suspension recipes over the years and have had better results with oil brother. But I'm always open to new suggestions.

I've got a test suspension I make for some guys that is amazing

KRAZIEONE

 

[Hammer-Anabolics]

Can you post it in an open thread? I'm new on this board and not familiar with all the do's and dont's yet. My first post was introducing myself and posting my product list i guess i wasn't suppose to do that lol

I've got a test suspension I make for some guys that is amazing

KRAZIEONE

 

[krazieone56]

Ya I can. But if I give all my secrets away then what good am I lol.

KRAZIEONE

 

[Hammer-Anabolics]

Yea i wouldn't post it either lol. Man i've made some bomb suspensions before but honestly i prefer oil. One batch would come out perfect then the next would fuck up it was real inconsistent and oil is perfect everytime.

 

[Hammer-Anabolics]

Does your recipe involve Guaiacol? Get the test base good and dissolved then filter through a PED filter down into some bac water?? Something along those lines

 

[krazieone56]

Does your recipe involve Guaiacol? Get the test base good and dissolved then filter through a PED filter down into some bac water?? Something along those lines

Nope. But it does involve distilled water.

KRAZIEONE

 

[Hammer-Anabolics]

You can make bac water with distilled water and 1% BA

 

[krazieone56]

That is true.

KRAZIEONE

 

[krazieone56]

Basically what I do. Is a certain ratio of ba and bb. I heat the hormones in the ba bb solution then let cool then add distilled water. Then reheat. Keep warmish and stirred then filter. Boom. Done.

KRAZIEONE

 

[userbrah]

I've got a test suspension I make for some guys that is amazing

KRAZIEONE

Yep.
Theres a reason you only see it in water.
Putting it in oil defeats the purpose.
If people really think theie body has fully absorbed it within an hour theyre kiding themselves.
Whatsup with the water base tren susp bro?

 

[userbrah]

I meant to say theres a.reason you only see it in water on the vet market.

 

[caveman72]

Hey Guy Im new around the forum and wanted some help on finding a legit source for some powders. Ive been looking into a few companies on Made-in-china.com not sure if that is a legit place to find sources but figured Id ask you guys whom are experienced in this area.

look in the older threads read start to finish its worth it you'll find answers

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[Hammer-Anabolics]

My process was close... i would heat hormone in BA,BB and Guaiacol then fill receiving flask with desired amount of distilled water and filter through a PED filter down into the water. Shit looks crazy when it's dripping down into the distilled water. PED filter was important a PVDF filter was no good.

Basically what I do. Is a certain ratio of ba and bb. I heat the hormones in the ba bb solution then let cool then add distilled water. Then reheat. Keep warmish and stirred then filter. Boom. Done.

KRAZIEONE

 

[krazieone56]

Yep.
Theres a reason you only see it in water.
Putting it in oil defeats the purpose.
If people really think theie body has fully absorbed it within an hour theyre kiding themselves.
Whatsup with the water base tren susp bro?

Making it tomorrow big dog.

KRAZIEONE

 

[Brewster]

My process was close... i would heat hormone in BA,BB and Guaiacol then fill receiving flask with desired amount of distilled water and filter through a PED filter down into the water. Shit looks crazy when it's dripping down into the distilled water. PED filter was important a PVDF filter was no good.

Can you explain a bit about this filter setup please? Got any pics at all?

I currently use whatman polycaps, have you any experience with this setup?

 

[Brewster]

My process was close... i would heat hormone in BA,BB and Guaiacol then fill receiving flask with desired amount of distilled water and filter through a PED filter down into the water. Shit looks crazy when it's dripping down into the distilled water. PED filter was important a PVDF filter was no good.

Also, you don't use guaiacol for water based suspension, you want polysorbate 80.

 

[krazieone56]

Also, you don't use guaiacol for water based suspension, you want polysorbate 80.

U don't even need poly 80 either.

KRAZIEONE

 

[Brewster]

U don't even need poly 80 either.

KRAZIEONE

Not essentially no, but works better with it. Especially if doing big batches

 

[krazieone56]

Not essentially no, but works better with it. Especially if doing big batches

I'd have to argue w you on that one. Lol

KRAZIEONE

 

[Brewster]

I'd have to argue w you on that one. Lol

KRAZIEONE

Yeah I thought you might!

 

[krazieone56]

I have made up to 150ml with no issues. And it's smooth as silk

KRAZIEONE

 

[Brewster]

I have made up to 150ml with no issues. And it's smooth as silk

KRAZIEONE

That's cool, what filtration method did you use?

I made a batch slightly larger than that! Lol

 

[krazieone56]

That's cool, what filtration method did you use?

I made a batch slightly larger than that! Lol

If its large like that a bottle top .22. Or if its 50ml or so I use a syringe filter cause it filters easy.

KRAZIEONE

 

[Brewster]

If its large like that a bottle top .22. Or if its 50ml or so I use a syringe filter cause it filters easy.

KRAZIEONE

See now I have a question...

Using the method you detailed on the last page, you dissolve the hormone in the solvents, then add the water, which obviously brings it out of soliton into a suspension. Then you reheat till it fully dissolves again then filter? I would have thought it would titrate before you managed to filter it all using bottle tops, unless you add little at a time and keep it on heat?

If so you must be filtering the solution when it's pretty damn hot! Watch that with the bottle tops, they're not rated at those sort of temps I don't think

When doing mine, I filter the dissolved solution separately from the water

I've never tried dissolving test base in water, does it go into temporary solution easy in water?

 

[Silverghost99]

my med-lab supply just landed - ordered quite few complete bottle top filter sets. All of these filters are 150ml

Iam wondering - if I want to brew smaller amount - say 50-100ml, Is the filter re-usable? in this case

 

[Brewster]

my med-lab supply just landed - ordered quite few complete bottle top filter sets. All of these filters are 150ml

Iam wondering - if I want to brew smaller amount - say 50-100ml, Is the filter re-usable? in this case

No, they are one time use only.

 

[krazieone56]

See now I have a question...

Using the method you detailed on the last page, you dissolve the hormone in the solvents, then add the water, which obviously brings it out of soliton into a suspension. Then you reheat till it fully dissolves again then filter? I would have thought it would titrate before you managed to filter it all using bottle tops, unless you add little at a time and keep it on heat?

If so you must be filtering the solution when it's pretty damn hot! Watch that with the bottle tops, they're not rated at those sort of temps I don't think

When doing mine, I filter the dissolved solution separately from the water

I've never tried dissolving test base in water, does it go into temporary solution easy in water?

No I heat in the bb ba solution. It stays solvent. Then let it cool it stays clear. Then reheat but not to hot just warm. Stirring it. Then filter it a little warm. It stays liquid long enough. Then it goes from media bottle to vials.

KRAZIEONE

 

[Brewster]

No I heat in the bb ba solution. It stays solvent. Then let it cool it stays clear. Then reheat but not to hot just warm. Stirring it. Then filter it a little warm. It stays liquid long enough. Then it goes from media bottle to vials.

KRAZIEONE

It doesn't titrate once the water is added?

 

[krazieone56]

It doesn't titrate once the water is added?

No it belnds to a milky solution that will stay way for about 5 min if warm. Long enough to filter into a large vial. Then when inject time shake well and draw out.

KRAZIEONE

 

[Brewster]

No it belnds to a milky solution that will stay way for about 5 min if warm. Long enough to filter into a large vial. Then when inject time shake well and draw out.

KRAZIEONE

Lol! No wonder it's smooth bro, you're filtering out all your test! Well most of it at least

If it's milky, it means it's titrated.

 

[krazieone56]

Lol! No wonder it's smooth bro, you're filtering out all your test! Well most of it at least

If it's milky, it means it's titrated.

Lol no I'm not. There are a few guys on here using it. Ask them if all the test is filtered out. Trust me it filters fine and is fire.

KRAZIEONE

 

[krazieone56]

Tell u what. I'll send u some and u try it and then u will know.

KRAZIEONE

 

[Redam]

Send me some and I'll let you guys know

 

[Loadcoil78]

Send me some and I'll let you guys know

Damn you beat me to it!!

 

[Brewster]

Thanks for the offer, but I'll stick with mine!

Seriously, that method of yours is flawed, filter your water first, then filter the dissolved solution, you are definitely filtering out some of the powder

report back if you try it, it will be stronger.

There are many experienced brewers on here, even mass producing labs, ask them if your method is OK. You will get the same answer

I've been brewing for over 10 years. Just trying to help

 

[krazieone56]

Thanks for the offer, but I'll stick with mine!

Seriously, that method of yours is flawed, filter your water first, then filter the dissolved solution, you are definitely filtering out some of the powder

report back if you try it, it will be stronger.

There are many experienced brewers on here, even mass producing labs, ask them if your method is OK. You will get the same answer

I've been brewing for over 10 years. Just trying to help

Time brewing means nothing bro. Sorry but what I do is a perfect method. Just because you don't agree doesn't make it flawed. I've been doing this for 5 yrs. I will put mine up for the Pepsi challenge any day. And load and red. I will be happy to send you guys a sample.

KRAZIEONE

 

[Loadcoil78]

Time brewing means nothing bro. Sorry but what I do is a perfect method. Just because you don't agree doesn't make it flawed. I've been doing this for 5 yrs. I will put mine up for the Pepsi challenge any day. And load and red. I will be happy to send you guys a sample.

KRAZIEONE

You the man

 

[krazieone56]

You the man

Pm me.

KRAZIEONE

 

[Wetworks]

Pm me.

KRAZIEONE

Hook it ^ Krazie you're holding out bro! Your legendary skills are peaking my interest.

 

[Brewster]

Time brewing means nothing bro. Sorry but what I do is a perfect method. Just because you don't agree doesn't make it flawed. I've been doing this for 5 yrs. I will put mine up for the Pepsi challenge any day. And load and red. I will be happy to send you guys a sample.

KRAZIEONE

OK then!

It's not about whether I agree with it or not, if the solution is milky, it's started to titrate. Simple, and micronized testosterone will not pass a .2 filter

But no problem, enjoy your evening

 

[krazieone56]

Hook it ^ Krazie you're holding out bro! Your legendary skills are peaking my interest.

Well according to punky Brewster I don't have any skills. Lol.

KRAZIEONE

 

[Wetworks]

Well according to punky Brewster I don't have any skills. Lol.

KRAZIEONE

That's not the word on the street brother. I was actually gonna talk to you anyways, but hey if you want to put these doubters to rest let me know and I'll gladly take one for the team!

 

[Brewster]

Well according to punky Brewster I don't have any skills. Lol.

KRAZIEONE

That's not what I said at all! Just pointed out your shitty method for making suspension! Lol... I'm sure your oils are great!

I certainly wouldn't use your 25% (at best!!) dosed test suspension though!

Do you not find it slightly odd that a compound, renowned for its painful injections by probably 90% of users over the years, and you think you've mastered it pain free! Lol

It's amazing what people will report back with when the gear is free!

Never under estimate placebo effects

 

[krazieone56]

That's not what I said at all! Just pointed out your shitty method for making suspension! Lol... I'm sure your oils are great!

I certainly wouldn't use your 25% (at best!!) dosed test suspension though!

Do you not find it slightly odd that a compound, renowned for its painful injections by probably 90% of users over the years, and you think you've mastered it pain free! Lol

It's amazing what people will report back with when the gear is free!

Never under estimate placebo effects

Bro. Think whatever the fuck you want. I really could careless. I know what I have figured out and mastered to make it amazing. If you don't want to try it to know then that's on you.

You really don't carry much weight here really anyway.

Enjoy your night.

KRAZIEONE

 

[Brewster]

Bro. Think whatever the fuck you want. I really could careless. I know what I have figured out and mastered to make it amazing. If you don't want to try it to know then that's on you.

You really don't carry much weight here really anyway.

Enjoy your night.

KRAZIEONE

I will thanks

Oh no what will I do? I don't spend all day on an Internet forum! so nobody thinks I know what I'm talking about lol

Grow up! How old are you!

Any lab that reads your method will laugh! You've mastered nothing but a shit underdosed suspension! "Bro"

I hope no one has ever paid you for a vial of this, seriously

 

[Julz03]

All I have to say is that Krazie's oils are legit and painless for sure.
0 pip.
You can quote me on that.

 

[krazieone56]

I will thanks

Oh no what will I do? I don't spend all day on an Internet forum! so nobody thinks I know what I'm talking about lol

Grow up! How old are you!

Any lab that reads your method will laugh! You've mastered nothing but a shit underdosed suspension! "Bro"

I hope no one has ever paid you for a vial of this, seriously

I'm not here all day long. I have a job and a business I run on top of making products. Its called multitasking.

Its not underdosed. So fuck you.

Ya know, the last guy to challenge me on here isnt here anymore. Lol. U might be next.

KRAZIEONE

 

[krazieone56]

All I have to say is that Krazie's oils are legit and painless for sure.
0 pip.
You can quote me on that.

Thnx man appreciate it. This clown is just that a clown.

KRAZIEONE

 

[Brewster]

All I have to say is that Krazie's oils are legit and painless for sure.
0 pip.
You can quote me on that.

That's cool. But I hope they were free!

I'm not here all day long. I have a job and a business I run on top of making products. Its called multitasking.

Its not underdosed. So fuck you.

Ya know, the last guy to challenge me on here isnt here anymore. Lol. U might be next.

KRAZIEONE

Lol I'm scared, really! Challenge you. Lol, I didn't realize you owned the forum

I probably brew more than you in one batch than you have ever done in your life kid. 150ml batches you say! Pmsl

I was trying to help you, but you're clearly retarded and can't accept help!

I may start a new thread stating your methods and hopefully some of the experienced labs will post in. Save clogging up this one.

Please tell me you don't sell your products, that's insane

 

[krazieone56]

That's cool. But I hope they were free!




Lol I'm scared, really! Challenge you. Lol, I didn't realize you owned the forum

I probably brew more than you in one batch than you have ever done in your life kid. 150ml batches you say! Pmsl

I was trying to help you, but you're clearly retarded and can't accept help!

I may start a new thread stating your methods and hopefully some of the experienced labs will post in. Save clogging up this one.

Please tell me you don't sell your products, that's insane

One I'm not a kid. So know ur role little boy.

Two I never asked for your help

Three post whatever u like. It makes no difference to me bro. You will be the one in the end looking stupid. Knock yourself out.

KRAZIEONE

 

[Wetworks]

I'm not any part of this, but I can't lie brewster you came out and started claiming krazie was wrong and his brew sucked. He was just letting it roll off for a few post, but I cant blame him now for calling you an idiot now. He has more patience then me.

It's funny just because something someone does isn't the conventional way of doing it doesn't mean it's wrong. Maybe he found a way of doing it that others haven't caught onto yet or never heard of?

Just my opinion from reading the last few pages

 

[Brewster]

I'm not any part of this, but I can't lie brewster you came out and started claiming krazie was wrong and his brew sucked. He was just letting it roll off for a few post, but I cant blame him now for calling you an idiot now. He has more patience then me.

It's funny just because something someone does isn't the conventional way of doing it doesn't mean it's wrong. Maybe he found a way of doing it that others haven't caught onto yet or never heard of?

Just my opinion from reading the last few pages

Hey man, not at all, this is a brewing thread, and if I see an incorrect method being used I will point it out.

Ask any of the labs on here if the method is a successful one and all will be revealed.

Then When I found out he passes this product on and people are paying for it, well it's not right.

And honestly, him calling me an idiot. I'm really not bothered what faceless characters on an Internet forum think of me. But this idiot knows how to make test suspension properly! Lol

Do you brew yourself wetworks?

 

[krazieone56]

Hey man, not at all, this is a brewing thread, and if I see an incorrect method being used I will point it out.

Ask any of the labs on here if the method is a successful one and all will be revealed.

Then When I found out he passes this product on and people are paying for it, well it's not right.

And honestly, him calling me an idiot. I'm really not bothered what faceless characters on an Internet forum think of me. But this idiot knows how to make test suspension properly! Lol

Do you brew yourself wetworks?

Dude. YOU are passing judgment on what may or may not be right. Lol. Who the fuck are you. You are nobody. This isn't even your thread. So get the fuck out. Lol. Later man. Ur boring me now.

KRAZIEONE

 

[Wetworks]

No I don't, but best believe I don't mind partaking the fruits of some good brewers labor

 

[Brewster]

Dude. YOU are passing judgment on what may or may not be right. Lol. Who the fuck are you. You are nobody. This isn't even your thread. So get the fuck out. Lol. Later man. Ur boring me now.

KRAZIEONE

Lol no not my thread, nor yours, or anybody's for that matter, it's a public forum and I'll post wherever I like thank you.

The method is not right, it's that simple, it's so wrong I can't believe you even think it's right! Lol

 

[userbrah]

Brewster i know nothing about brewing but what makes it wrong?
Lets chill out and talk like grown men for a second..
Ive tried so so so many different suspensions.
Krazies is one of my favorites. Why do you think his suspension is no good?

 

[krazieone56]

Lol no not my thread, nor yours, or anybody's for that matter, it's a public forum and I'll post wherever I like thank you.

The method is not right, it's that simple, it's so wrong I can't believe you even think it's right! Lol

Think whatever you like. But, this is bobs and mines thread we started this long ago. So ya its mine. Ur mudding up my thread with your bullshit and no one will back you. So why not just put a cork in it.

KRAZIEONE

 

[krazieone56]

Brewster i know nothing about brewing but what makes it wrong?
Lets chill out and talk like grown men for a second..
Ive tried so so so many different suspensions.
Krazies is one of my favorites. Why do you think his suspension is no good?

He is just pissed he can't make non chunky suspension. That's why does oil. Cause its easy to make.

KRAZIEONE

 

[Brewster]

Brewster i know nothing about brewing but what makes it wrong?
Lets chill out and talk like grown men for a second..
Ive tried so so so many different suspensions.
Krazies is one of my favorites. Why do you think his suspension is no good?

Because it titrates out of solution before he filters it, so essentially he is filtering out most of the test.

He even said himself it's milky before he filters it, which is the test coming out of solution and back to its powder form. How can this be a good thing? If you have done suspensions yourself then maybe you know what I mean.

I was only trying to help.

Think whatever you like. But, this is bobs and mines thread we started this long ago. So ya its mine. Ur mudding up my thread with your bullshit and no one will back you. So why not just put a cork in it.

KRAZIEONE

Dude, I've just read the start of the thread, first 5-10 pages, it's clear to see back in April when this started you were a newb to brewing, anyone don't believe me, go read for yourself.

To be a good liar you need a good memory, you clearly have neither.

He is just pissed he can't make non chunky suspension. That's why does oil. Cause its easy to make.

KRAZIEONE

Where did I mention oil based test? Not once.

 

[Silverghost99]

Hey man, not at all, this is a brewing thread, and if I see an incorrect method being used I will point it out.

Ask any of the labs on here if the method is a successful one and all will be revealed.

Then When I found out he passes this product on and people are paying for it, well it's not right.

And honestly, him calling me an idiot. I'm really not bothered what faceless characters on an Internet forum think of me. But this idiot knows how to make test suspension properly! Lol

Do you brew yourself wetworks?

Man your tone kind of seems familiar to one of the old trolls who tried to ruin this discussion .

Krazie has been around for quite a while & shares his knowledge without any restriction. So if you find his method not so satisfying..Have a discussion with him offline.

Your attempts to discredit him & throwing blunt comments about his skills just show that you have a hidden agenda .

 

[Brewster]

Man your tone kind of seems familiar to one of the old trolls who tried to ruin this discussion .

Krazie has been around for quite a while & shares his knowledge without any restriction. So if you find his method not so satisfying..Have a discussion with him offline.

Your attempts to discredit him & throwing blunt comments about his skills just show that you have a hidden agenda .

I have no agenda at all bro. Just an interest in brewing. I'm not a troll

 

[userbrah]

Because it titrates out of solution before he filters it, so essentially he is filtering out most of the test.

He even said himself it's milky before he filters it, which is the test coming out of solution and back to its powder form. How can this be a good thing? If you have done suspensions yourself then maybe you know what I mean.

I was only trying to help.



Dude, I've just read the start of the thread, first 5-10 pages, it's clear to see back in April when this started you were a newb to brewing, anyone don't believe me, go read for yourself.

To be a good liar you need a good memory, you clearly have neither.



Where did I mention oil based test? Not once.

Ok.
But if he is filtering out most of the test, what is the stuff seperated from the water when it falls out of suspension?
I see what youre saying, im just trying to understand.
I can clearly see the large amount of hormone seperate from the water.
Unless this is something else?
Shake it back into suspension and its white again.

 

[BuryMeBig]

If you were asking for pics of the set ups in general, well perfect timing because I wanted to bring them up for some, or shit if interested in a peristaltic set up I've got a a DIY set up written up with the list of parts, links to purchase them, and the plans of how to simply toss it together, its pretty legit id have to say, even know im confident with my set up, wouldn't change a thing, for the price, its def worth the fun..all in all, the entire set up will end up costing you just around $40.... thats pump, controller board, converter, the whole dam thing.. $40...but that's a different story, pm me on that if your interested,but @ GENOMEX yea to answer your question no not porcelain bud, but hey if your running glass where do you pick up your papers? 47mm? what filters have you tried as far as brands? I've always stuck with Omnipore and Whatmans for everyone preaches that's a must, but lately i've been reconsidering some of the generics that are literally 1/4 price man, realistically they have to stand up to the same testing standards, and the fact that its a product that's sole purpose is to ensure filtration, I cant imagine them not.. way to much of a liability... and what sucks is the fact that again, here we'd only find out if they were good or not by getting fucked up. Anyhow, since this dude just asked to see what this filtration device that someone mentioned looks like, here's also something I think many of you will find to be pretty useful, I thought I'd share it because sadly there's so many jokers on this thread that don't deserve shit like myself right...or rather don't need shit actually but forget that bull shit, sorry---

until now I have yet to see this dam piece, but wished of something like it. I know many of you will find it to be a rather useful addition for subtraction.. to your means of filtration and sanitary conditions.
So those who use a filtration apparatus that's not syringe filter or the one time use bottle top's, or peristaltic obviously but use an all glass, then you know, most use a Erlenmeyer receiver that collects our filtrate... then, from that point, well everyone does there own thing, whether you've already set it aside for a few days prior to filtering to test it, perhaps just leaving it in its beaker covered..but with the many different options of what people may have with the in between process of confirming your gears going to hold, how its stored, filtered, and vialed.. all obviously is application dependent..I like to draw my gear from a media storage bottle that's sealed with a open silicone septa top...draw out, vial up, with no air contact. Well, some of you may have already seen this little adapter for exactly this, if so great... if not, well check it out.. another step closer to more sanitary means of home brewing...If your running a buchner filtration like this one:

I use those ones.. def. quality I've dropped the filter holders actually twice now and the quality prevailed..but not cheap at all.. but you don't need brand name shit, I got a crazy deal on a set that's the only reason but, there no different then the Chinese ones I have that are PTFE faced..priced at about 1/4 of Milli, so on a filtration flask with its side arm conical set up looks something like this more or less obviously..
well even know I've got an autoclave, it doesn't matter, ill never have the environment, so this guy:

Is what I'm talking about.... no more Erlenmeyer receiver flask... cutting that out of the process, screw that onto any GL-45 threaded media bottle, stick your buchner through the top, pour the gear in from your beaker and filter straight into the media bottle... when done, remove it and replace it with either your dispensers if your all fancy like some of you are, or just replace it with your silicone septa cap, and its GTG. Keep in mind this is if you already have a glass buchner that doesn't have a conical arm built into the glass base of the buchner... its on the flask, so all said and done :

I saw this and thought hell yea... that's exactly what I've needed... rather then replacing the bases with ones that have the side arm, each about $250-300, all you'd need is this..
but obviously, like I mentioned if you have a buchner where the base has a side arm built in, then that would have made life a lot easier.. all you need is the GL-45 open cap with its rubber insert and your gtg like below..
*post below
Anyhow if you were thinking of picking up a set up, this could help show you some options, and also of leaving out the flask.. cheers brotha's hope this helps avoid yet another... fucked up life living with an abscess.

 

[BuryMeBig]

 

[krazieone56]

Because it titrates out of solution before he filters it, so essentially he is filtering out most of the test.

He even said himself it's milky before he filters it, which is the test coming out of solution and back to its powder form. How can this be a good thing? If you have done suspensions yourself then maybe you know what I mean.

I was only trying to help.



Dude, I've just read the start of the thread, first 5-10 pages, it's clear to see back in April when this started you were a newb to brewing, anyone don't believe me, go read for yourself.

To be a good liar you need a good memory, you clearly have neither.



Where did I mention oil based test? Not once.

Dude its milky colored not from test coming put its milky from oil based chemicals being mixed with water. Nothing to do w the hormone. Once heated w the ba and bb it is absorbed into that solution. It doesn't just magically fall out because water is introduced. You are incorrect. Furthermore, as u can see I have backing and you don't. Just go troll somewhere else.



KRAZIEONE

 

[krazieone56]

Ok.
But if he is filtering out most of the test, what is the stuff seperated from the water when it falls out of suspension?
I see what youre saying, im just trying to understand.
I can clearly see the large amount of hormone seperate from the water.
Unless this is something else?
Shake it back into suspension and its white again.

Don't even waste your time w him bro. He is clueless just like Alicia Silverstone.

KRAZIEONE

 

[krazieone56]

Man your tone kind of seems familiar to one of the old trolls who tried to ruin this discussion .

Krazie has been around for quite a while & shares his knowledge without any restriction. So if you find his method not so satisfying..Have a discussion with him offline.

Your attempts to discredit him & throwing blunt comments about his skills just show that you have a hidden agenda .

U mean devil dog? Lol yep. And he tried shit and guess what he was shown the door. Lol. Just ignore this asshole. Lol.

KRAZIEONE

 

[Brewster]

Keep in mind this has NEVER happened to me before and I have home brewed countless times. I'm thinking since it has been filtered with .22 micron filters that I could cotton ball that stuff out and be fine.

KRAZIEONE

So I strained it with a cotton ball thru a 30 ml syringe 22 gauge needle. I shove the cotton ball to the bottom soaked it with benzyl alcohol and the. Squeezed that out back filled the syringe and then put into new bottles. I think its OK now

KRAZIEONE

So on those bottle top set ups they r plastic right ? So why cudnt you drill a hole in the bottom corner and then attach a sealed typing with a slip lock tip on it and the leave the vaccum pump on and let it push the fluid right into the 200 ml jug instead of letting air get to it while syphoning it out of the bottom piece once filtered. Just a thought

KRAZIEONE

Well the heat thing is what I think messed me up. I had it heated and it kinda ate the filter. Which is why I had to refilter it. So I was thinking I'll try to make something and see if it works. Cause my forearms are big enuff lol.

I got a lot of hobbies too buy hey if ur not learning ur not growing

KRAZIEONE

Ya tne always burns.

KRAZIEONE

I just ordered my first bottle top set up. Shud b much easier

KRAZIEONE

Ok krazie, you say you been brewing over 5 years... Above is some of your posts in this exact thread with pin the last 6 months.

You are a liar

See what I'm saying people. You are being conned by an amateur. Disgraceful that this goes on.

Would not buy anything from this fool.

 

[krazieone56]

OK well I'm off to bed. You guys have fun. All I know is my stuff is legit for every product I make. And people love it. Sometimes over other brands. And if they want to listen to you and not buy from me anymore then so be it. I really could give a fuck less. I do this to help guys out. Not the money. Peace y'all.

KRAZIEONE

 

[Brewster]

Cotton balls for filtering and drilling holes in sterile media bottles!! FLMAO

There is so much more I could have posted that shows you are clueless. But I think I'll leave it at that.

Stay safe people

 

[krazieone56]

Ok krazie, you say you been brewing over 5 years... Above is some of your posts in this exact thread with pin the last 6 months.

You are a liar

See what I'm saying people. You are being conned by an amateur. Disgraceful that this goes on.

Would not buy anything from this fool.

That was a bottle top mishap as I had never used them. Who fucking cares. Ahhh whatever. This is stupid.

KRAZIEONE