From fat to Fit

[Boyka93]

Hello guys i would like to run a big cycle to do a transformation from fat to fit . well my stats are : 22 years old , 168 cm , 70kg , 30%bf what i would like to do is : 1000 mg sustanon per week , 400 mg trenbolone acetate per week and 200 mg injectable winny per week for 10 weeks PCT : arimidex every day and since wek 11 to 14 : nolvadex and clomid
Diet is for 1900 calories I think is good : 50%protein,30%carbs,20%fat .

my goal is build muscles and make them grow while loosing fat at the same time

Can you tell me please your opinions. Thanks

 

[Crossfit]

This is wrong pretty sure .... Sorry bro

 

[cjs_gymlife]

If this is your first cycle... That is a lot to start with.. You might want to recheck some things

 

[LevButlerov]

Hello guys i would like to run a big cycle to do a transformation from fat to fit . well my stats are : 22 years old , 168 cm , 70kg , 30%bf what i would like to do is : 1000 mg sustanon per week , 400 mg trenbolone acetate per week and 200 mg injectable winny per week for 10 weeks PCT : arimidex every day and since wek 11 to 14 : nolvadex and clomid
Diet is for 1900 calories I think is good : 50%protein,30%carbs,20%fat .

my goal is build muscles and make them grow while loosing fat at the same time

Can you tell me please your opinions. Thanks

First of all - at such BF% you should not even touch steroids, as you will be putting your health in serious danger. The more fat you have, the more side effects you will experience, which is not a good thing. Remember, steroids are not a toy, and they can seriously hurt you if used unproperly. Secondly, these are insane dosages you are looking at, even for pro-bodybuilders, and in no case should you be using trenbolone on a first cycle. Additionally, Winstrol is a purely cosmetic steroid, and you will not notice any difference with it unless your BF% is below 12%.

All in all, you should not be doing a cycle with these stats, and being so young. Just everything here is telling that you should not be using them. Besides, you can not bulk and cut at the same time - it is either one thing, or the other, but not both at once.

Therefore, you need to get conditioned first for AAS use. For that you will need to have a very strict and dialed in diet, and proper training regimen. Remember, even when taking PEDs, be it steroids or any other thing, you will not lose fat unless you follow a strict diet and workout hard. Steroids are just a tool, but in no way a magic pill that will convert you in Arnie. Anyhow, for a better conditioning you should rather consider using SARMS - they are non-hormonal, and have no side effects, which is a good thing. They have a very well proven ability to burn fat, while maintaining lean mass even in the most catabolic conditions. Besides, they will give such benefits as enhanced endurance, recovery, and strength. Run a cycle of two with SARMS, and when you will get conditioned consider using steroids. In any case, the cycle you have laid out is extremely harsh, even for the very experienced bodybuilders.

The SARMS cycle would look like this:

12 weeks duration
Cardarine GW-501516 @ 12.5 mgs ED
Ostarine MK-2866 @ 25 mgs ED
Andarine S4 @ 50 mgs ED

4 weeks mini-PCT with clomid, nolvadex, HCGenerate ES and Ostarine MK-2866

4 weeks break

Repeat the cycle.

 

[Boyka93]

it's not my first cycle and look at bostin loyd , he was fat and he became fit thanks to steroids

 

[stevesmi]

it's not my first cycle and look at bostin loyd , he was fat and he became fit thanks to steroids

he was never 30% body fat. and he took way more then steroids. he took a lot of dangerous fat burners like DNP and clen too

steroids DO NOT burn fat.. they were developed mostly for anemia and to prevent muscle wasting. now if you hop on a bunch of steroids and decide to get off the couch and get results, then all you did there was psychological where you needed steroids for motivation

 

[muskate]

At 30% bodyfat, you certainly don't need steroids. You need to completely overhaul your diet and training program. Anyone with a decent diet and training protocol can get to 12% body fat with a significant amount of muscle naturally.

I would hold off on starting a cycle until you have your diet and training down first. If you want to supplement your diet and training with anything, look into SARMS. Particularly the SARMS triple stack. http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocol

After the triple stack, run a mini PCT. 4 weeks of the following:
clomid at 25mg/day
nolvadex at 20mg/day
HCGenerate ES at 5 capsules/day
n2guard at 3 capsules/day

SARMS are minimally suppressive, there is no risk of aromatization (therefore no estrogen related side effects) and legal to use. You can get everything you need off sarms1.com, n2bm.com and ag-guys.com

 

[Boyka93]

Well I respect all what you say but i also Did some research and i found that steroids can help you to burn fat For example if i do with injectable winny 200mg EOD and Tren ace with of course sustanon it will help me to build muscles more visible and to burn fat Of course steroids are just a tool , But with a diet of 1500 calories of course that i will have good results , so what do you think ?

 

[aggirl]

Listen...if your mind is already made up then why ask?

I get so upset and pissed off when people act like steriods and peds are no big deal. They are hormones.....check out the definition of what hormones are and what they do. I'm not going to preach or goo into great detail here.....check it out for yourself.

Second, you can take as much drugs as you want. Without proper diet your results are not going to be what you expect by any means. Diet trumps all....period.

Bodybuilding, losing weight, being fit etc....takes hard work and dedication. That's why I love this sport....only you can make it happen. All the money in the world can't make you "big"....but hard work can. Think about yourself 6 months from now after you cut your body fat the right way with diet and exercise....you can say "i did this"....it's a wonderful feeling.

Skip the juice until you know what it's like to train and eat hard.

 

[stevesmi]

Well I respect all what you say but i also Did some research and i found that steroids can help you to burn fat For example if i do with injectable winny 200mg EOD and Tren ace with of course sustanon it will help me to build muscles more visible and to burn fat Of course steroids are just a tool , But with a diet of 1500 calories of course that i will have good results , so what do you think ?

if you dropped your calories that low without steroids you would drop body fat too. you are going to hate running tren with that low of calories, bad decision. the sides are going to be horrible