For The Aussies - Australian Source talk - Part 4

[gearhead]

Part 3 of AU steroid source talk got over 100 pages, was slowing down server, so this is part 4....

News:
AddarInc and Plat are now Aussie VIPS


for reference...

part 3 - 103 pages
http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/source-talk/aussies-australian-source-talk-part-3-a-39751.html

part 2 - 114 pages
http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/source-talk/aussies-australian-source-talk-part-2-a-39157.html

part 1 - 336 pages
http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/source-talk/aussies-australian-source-talk-35171.html

 

[AddarInc]

Thanks.. Also requested, we need to keep the pages down to 50.. It's overloading the server.. More in depth replies, more relevant and practical. That's a request from moderators.

Great to be on board, utilise myself or plat at anytime. We are both bopping around, you know where to find me more easier..

Grow!

 

[plat]

@arrrtz
Thw adaptation of using fats for energy can take 2 days and up to 14 days for some people. However, the vast majority will take around 1 week give or take a few days
Some advantages

Increased lipolysis (breakdown of fat)
Decreased lipogenesis (production of fat)
Decreased catabolism (muscle protein is spared from breakdown)

This diet works very well and I have personally used it myself many times.
However it does require a 're feed once a week where you will consume 2-3 times your daily amount of calories.


From the foods you've mentioned in your original post. I was a little concerned with the oil and grease aspect. But from your second post clarifying it, seems you have a better understanding.
The whole concept works on eating the caveman form of food.

It's very important to watch the sort of fats you consume in that you don't over eat good fats which are dense in calories.
I do suggest you get that refeed in once a week as it aid the burning process giving your body the needed carbs and insulin spikes which are valuable in this diet.

 

[prime863]

Glad to be apart of the community
as for informative Posts, figured id drop this GH list here so people can get a rough idea of brand quality, found this gem ages ago

High quality/Pharma brands:
⦁ Genotropin (191 amino acid, high purity, produced by ⦁ Pfizer, Inc, USA)
⦁ Humatrope (191 amino acid, high purity, produced by ⦁ Eli Lilly and Company, USA)
⦁ Hypertropin (191 amino acid, high purity, produced by ⦁ Neogenica Bioscience Ltd, China)
⦁ Jintropin (191 amino acid, high purity, produced by ⦁ GeneScience Pharmaceuticals Co., Ltd, China)
⦁ Norditropin (191 amino acid, high purity, produced by ⦁ Novo Nordisk Inc, USA)
⦁ Nutropin (191 amino acid, high purity, produced by ⦁ Genentech USA, Inc, USA)
⦁ Saizen (191 amino acid, high purity, produced by ⦁ EMD Serono, Inc, USA)
⦁ Serostim (191 amino acid, high purity, produced by ⦁ EMD Serono, Inc, USA)
⦁ Zorbtive (191 amino acid, high purity, produced by ⦁ EMD Serono, Inc, USA)
⦁ Strongtropin (191 amino acid, high purity, produced by Unknown)
Medium quality brands:
⦁ Ansomone (used to be 192 but is now 191 amino acid, medium purity, produced by ⦁ Anhui Anke Biotechnology Co., Ltd, China)
⦁ Hygetropin (191 amino acid, medium purity, produced by ⦁ Zhongshan Hygene Biopharm Co., Ltd, China)
⦁ Tev-Tropin (191 amino acid, medium purity, produced by ⦁ Teva Pharmaceuticals, USA)
⦁ Zomacton (191 amino acid, medium purity, produced by ⦁ Ferring Pharmaceuticals Pty Ltd, Australia)
Low or questionable quality brands:
⦁ Fitropin (this product has been discontinued, it was produced by Shenzhen ⦁ Kexing Biotech Co., Ltd, China)
⦁ Getropin (relabelled generic of unknown origin)
⦁ Glotropin (relabelled generic of unknown origin)
⦁ Kefei (191 amino acid, low purity, produced by ⦁ Shanghai United Kefei Biotechnology Co., Ltd, China)
⦁ Kigtropin (relabelled generic of questionable origin, known to cause immune response, different reviews from batch to batch)
⦁ Riptropin (relabelled generic of unknown origin, mostly present on the UK black market, different reviews from batch to batch)
⦁ Taitropin (relabelled generic of unknown origin, presumably associated with Kigtropin)

 

[OceanusLabs]

And so it begins, the great juicing of our time.

 

[prime863]

take not that this list is not Definitive of course, but gives a rough idea and guide.
have seen some excellent Riptropin and Kefei and those are in the low quality section, generally theyre just commonly faked and counterfeited.

 

[Verses]

The fourth thread.

Love it.

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[arrrtz]

Cheers mate, can't wait for my first refeed!

 

[10029185j]

Whats up bros,
Just a quick intro as I am a newbie here but wanted to introduce myself and what I have been going through. To make a long story short I am 34 with low T (hypogonadism) and currently being treated with Reandron - I am only on my 3rd shot (first, 2nd at 6 weeks, 3rd at 12) and my levels have increased from 6 (normal test is from 10-42) to 20 in the past week. I am feeling good but have quite a bit of brain fog, not sure what to attribute this too....anyways its been a long hard road for me guys, was in the best shape of my life two years ago and had a rugby injury which then forced a laterjet procedure for my left shoulder (late 2013)....shortly after I developed golfers elbow in my right elbow (probably from jacking lol nah but seriously who knows) the laterjet procedure (bone graft) failed and they had to go in and remove the screws and fix what they could in mid 2014....a month later I was hit by a motorbike while at a red light.....since mid 2014 no gym, just physio therapy every week ...twice a fkn week...ive been dedicated, taking supps, eating right, walking etc but no gym....doing rotator cuffs band work and light dumbbells for scauplar strengthening....I have also had numerous scans on the elbow such as ultrasounds and MRI's which show both ulnar nerves are okay but they are tight (when I do those flossing exercises they flick) - the shoulder has come okay , def not as strong as it should be but then again I don't want to lift that heavy anymore, just be able to lift and be healthy, get rid of stress and feel like a man again.....(sorry for the long whinge)....this weekend I lifted light (have not worked out my arms in two years due to golfers elbow - which is now in both arms and still have pain in the right elbow....in the past two years I have had PRP injections (5) in each elbow, and also brought the theraband flex bar for golfers elbow and numerous hand, wrist strengthening devices obviously none have worked......I'm at the point now where I know medicine cant fix this but science possibly can.....I am thinking of running a low dose test cyp, deca, tb500 and bp157 cycle after reading so much about them. Tired of being tired all the time and injured if ya feel me. Any help would be appreciated esp sources as new to Syd orig from the States, my bad for the long post....shits been rough.

 

[plat]

Cheers mate, can't wait for my first refeed!

Not a problem brother. If you have anymore personal questions.
Just pm or wickr.
Plat1
Happy to try and help. It's a very good diet if you stick to it over a period of 2-3 months I guarantee you'll turn out very vascular.
Some extra little bit of info
This diet with high fats helps improve mood via extra energy and sex drive via increasing oxygen transport through the blood

 

[AustBenny]

I'm probably going to give the Dave Draper three days tuna and water diet a go next week from Monday.

As sucky as that sounds, I'm looking forward to not having to do meal prep this weekend and my grocery shopping should be a breeze lol.

 

[Verses]

Whats up bros,
Just a quick intro as I am a newbie here but wanted to introduce myself and what I have been going through. To make a long story short I am 34 with low T (hypogonadism) and currently being treated with Reandron - I am only on my 3rd shot (first, 2nd at 6 weeks, 3rd at 12) and my levels have increased from 6 (normal test is from 10-42) to 20 in the past week. I am feeling good but have quite a bit of brain fog, not sure what to attribute this too....anyways its been a long hard road for me guys, was in the best shape of my life two years ago and had a rugby injury which then forced a laterjet procedure for my left shoulder (late 2013)....shortly after I developed golfers elbow in my right elbow (probably from jacking lol nah but seriously who knows) the laterjet procedure (bone graft) failed and they had to go in and remove the screws and fix what they could in mid 2014....a month later I was hit by a motorbike while at a red light.....since mid 2014 no gym, just physio therapy every week ...twice a fkn week...ive been dedicated, taking supps, eating right, walking etc but no gym....doing rotator cuffs band work and light dumbbells for scauplar strengthening....I have also had numerous scans on the elbow such as ultrasounds and MRI's which show both ulnar nerves are okay but they are tight (when I do those flossing exercises they flick) - the shoulder has come okay , def not as strong as it should be but then again I don't want to lift that heavy anymore, just be able to lift and be healthy, get rid of stress and feel like a man again.....(sorry for the long whinge)....this weekend I lifted light (have not worked out my arms in two years due to golfers elbow - which is now in both arms and still have pain in the right elbow....in the past two years I have had PRP injections (5) in each elbow, and also brought the theraband flex bar for golfers elbow and numerous hand, wrist strengthening devices obviously none have worked......I'm at the point now where I know medicine cant fix this but science possibly can.....I am thinking of running a low dose test cyp, deca, tb500 and bp157 cycle after reading so much about them. Tired of being tired all the time and injured if ya feel me. Any help would be appreciated esp sources as new to Syd orig from the States, my bad for the long post....shits been rough.

That is a hard read.

I feel like the punctuation police, but man.....

Go to a doctor first, and get professional help before self diagnosis.


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[harrywho]

@10029185j

thats fucked. let the reandron build up I reckon. and 12 weeks is too long, tell the fuckers to make it 8 or at least 10 at worst... 12 will suck.
probably stick with that cause the endo will prob continue to monitor ur hormones. and if they are too hi they will think too much reandron or who knows what.
brain frog... hardly estrogen being hi if ur test is still around 20. unless you're really fat?

maybe just 500 test if ur keen but after reading all that, just go slow lol.

 

[10029185j]

LOL - typed the whole thing on my phone bro - sorry about that.
As for seeing a doctor - that's all I have done for the last two years - physios, doctors and a few surgeons.
Physio just wants physio - I have seen SOME improvement and surgeons want to do surgery but with no guaranteed results as scans show the medial epicondyle's and ulnar nerve okay with just some tendinitis.
I do not want surgery for the elbow, particularly after the shoulder surgery failed.

That is a hard read.

I feel like the punctuation police, but man.....

Go to a doctor first, and get professional help before self diagnosis.


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[10029185j]

Thanks @harrywho

I feel you def fucked and already tried pushing the Endo to reduce the wait between shots but they are so conservative. I had two scripts for TestoGel and Axiron and was going to use that as a boost but they expired, Australia is mad strict (coming from the States)...at least they were approved and covered though and I could afford them. My estrogen is high at 198, I think the highest it should be is 145 for a male, I am slightly overweight, like I said two years of this hell will do that.
Even if my levels go too high I would stop seeing the Endo and just manage them myself - tired of these Docs playing games with my endocrine system and not listening to me.
Don't want to bore this thread too much so if anyone wants to give me some feedback pls PM me (if you can) - I will try to msg back but I need to reach 100pts, if not I will wickr you. Thanks for the two cents @ Harry

J

@10029185j

thats fucked. let the reandron build up I reckon. and 12 weeks is too long, tell the fuckers to make it 8 or at least 10 at worst... 12 will suck.
probably stick with that cause the endo will prob continue to monitor ur hormones. and if they are too hi they will think too much reandron or who knows what.
brain frog... hardly estrogen being hi if ur test is still around 20. unless you're really fat?

maybe just 500 test if ur keen but after reading all that, just go slow lol.

 

[AddarInc]

@10029185j

Welcome and great intro. Great community. Any questions heaps of us willing to help. Just message me via visitor message, or if you have Wickr and comfortable ask me to PM you.

Massive posts!

 

[OceanusLabs]

Congrats to Plat and Addar on becoming VIP's. I had my doubts before, but I think it'll be great to have two guys controlling the spam in the thread and providing legit knowledge.

 

[prime863]

Congrats to Plat and Addar on becoming VIP's. I had my doubts before, but I think it'll be great to have two guys controlling the spam in the thread and providing legit knowledge.

Glad to see you stuck around too mate

 

[harrywho]

Thanks @harrywho

I feel you def fucked and already tried pushing the Endo to reduce the wait between shots but they are so conservative. I had two scripts for TestoGel and Axiron and was going to use that as a boost but they expired, Australia is mad strict (coming from the States)...at least they were approved and covered though and I could afford them. My estrogen is high at 198, I think the highest it should be is 145 for a male, I am slightly overweight, like I said two years of this hell will do that.
Even if my levels go too high I would stop seeing the Endo and just manage them myself - tired of these Docs playing games with my endocrine system and not listening to me.
Don't want to bore this thread too much so if anyone wants to give me some feedback pls PM me (if you can) - I will try to msg back but I need to reach 100pts, if not I will wickr you. Thanks for the two cents @ Harry

J

u need some arimidex or somthing to lower estrogen a bit and brain fog will clear up and you will feel much, much better. talk to ur endo about it, otherwise get some arimidex and idk maybe .25 eod for a bit.

Yeh conservative as fuck, it can be more bother than worth going thro an endo... it's far tooo policy now days.

 

[AddarInc]

Congrats to Plat and Addar on becoming VIP's. I had my doubts before, but I think it'll be great to have two guys controlling the spam in the thread and providing legit knowledge.

Thanks mate. Will do what we can and be people to turn to for advice when requested on.. And anything we miss throw us a message. This community has certainly grown. Positive stuff!

 

[10029185j]

@10029185j

Welcome and great intro. Great community. Any questions heaps of us willing to help. Just message me via visitor message, or if you have Wickr and comfortable ask me to PM you.

Massive posts!

Thx mate

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[Smurfed]

amazing, 4th thread, great work lads...

And congrats to Addar and Plat, well chosen evo...

 

[Smurfed]

Whats up bros,
Just a quick intro as I am a newbie here but wanted to introduce myself and what I have been going through. To make a long story short I am 34 with low T (hypogonadism) and currently being treated with Reandron - I am only on my 3rd shot (first, 2nd at 6 weeks, 3rd at 12) and my levels have increased from 6 (normal test is from 10-42) to 20 in the past week. I am feeling good but have quite a bit of brain fog, not sure what to attribute this too....anyways its been a long hard road for me guys, was in the best shape of my life two years ago and had a rugby injury which then forced a laterjet procedure for my left shoulder (late 2013)....shortly after I developed golfers elbow in my right elbow (probably from jacking lol nah but seriously who knows) the laterjet procedure (bone graft) failed and they had to go in and remove the screws and fix what they could in mid 2014....a month later I was hit by a motorbike while at a red light.....since mid 2014 no gym, just physio therapy every week ...twice a fkn week...ive been dedicated, taking supps, eating right, walking etc but no gym....doing rotator cuffs band work and light dumbbells for scauplar strengthening....I have also had numerous scans on the elbow such as ultrasounds and MRI's which show both ulnar nerves are okay but they are tight (when I do those flossing exercises they flick) - the shoulder has come okay , def not as strong as it should be but then again I don't want to lift that heavy anymore, just be able to lift and be healthy, get rid of stress and feel like a man again.....(sorry for the long whinge)....this weekend I lifted light (have not worked out my arms in two years due to golfers elbow - which is now in both arms and still have pain in the right elbow....in the past two years I have had PRP injections (5) in each elbow, and also brought the theraband flex bar for golfers elbow and numerous hand, wrist strengthening devices obviously none have worked......I'm at the point now where I know medicine cant fix this but science possibly can.....I am thinking of running a low dose test cyp, deca, tb500 and bp157 cycle after reading so much about them. Tired of being tired all the time and injured if ya feel me. Any help would be appreciated esp sources as new to Syd orig from the States, my bad for the long post....shits been rough.

Welcome brother, wow what a read. It was reading my life story when I was a younger whipper snapper. I too started and still on reandron for many years now.
I struggled to begin with it as most do and manage to tweak it to suit my needs, after years of cycling I found my niche... People don't understand these 53 day half lives.
If I can be any help my wickr is smurf4884.
Life story quickly, both shoulders repaired surgically, both elbows tendonitis fixed by peptides... Happy to assist and share knowledge as always to all fellow brothers... Oh an not to mention fertility, geez im sounding old lmao....

 

[harrywho]

Welcome brother, wow what a read. It was reading my life story when I was a younger whipper snapper. I too started and still on reandron for many years now.
I struggled to begin with it as most do and manage to tweak it to suit my needs, after years of cycling I found my niche... People don't understand these 53 day half lives.
If I can be any help my wickr is smurf4884.
Life story quickly, both shoulders repaired surgically, both elbows tendonitis fixed by peptides... Happy to assist and share knowledge as always to all fellow brothers... Oh an not to mention fertility, geez im sounding old lmao....

what's ur take on fertility? ideally 250iu hcg twice week indefinitely.
what if I get cut off and lose my hcg for say, 6 or 12 months? should be sweet eh? for a blast and cruiser. and 90 days prior to conception 1500iu hcg twice weekly.

 

[AddarInc]

POSTING ON BEHALF OF BJORNB.

* I'm posting as I believe he will be absent for a period of time. Personal reasons, messages of support are refreshing and wouldn't go astray.

He's a great part of this community.

If you guys have him on Wickr a message would go a long way.

Strength and support he may need.

 

[Oppositeofnatty]

I'm probably going to give the Dave Draper three days tuna and water diet a go next week from Monday.

As sucky as that sounds, I'm looking forward to not having to do meal prep this weekend and my grocery shopping should be a breeze lol.

So is it just tuna and water all day?


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[Oppositeofnatty]

Welcome brother, wow what a read. It was reading my life story when I was a younger whipper snapper. I too started and still on reandron for many years now.
I struggled to begin with it as most do and manage to tweak it to suit my needs, after years of cycling I found my niche... People don't understand these 53 day half lives.
If I can be any help my wickr is smurf4884.
Life story quickly, both shoulders repaired surgically, both elbows tendonitis fixed by peptides... Happy to assist and share knowledge as always to all fellow brothers... Oh an not to mention fertility, geez im sounding old lmao....

What was wrong with shoulders?

Was your surgery covered by Medicare?

I see an orthopedic surgeon tomorrow to check my MRI results.




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[plat]

Congrats to Plat and Addar on becoming VIP's. I had my doubts before, but I think it'll be great to have two guys controlling the spam in the thread and providing legit knowledge.

Cheers brother
We will stay on top of it

 

[10029185j]

Welcome brother, wow what a read. It was reading my life story when I was a younger whipper snapper. I too started and still on reandron for many years now.
I struggled to begin with it as most do and manage to tweak it to suit my needs, after years of cycling I found my niche... People don't understand these 53 day half lives.
If I can be any help my wickr is smurf4884.
Life story quickly, both shoulders repaired surgically, both elbows tendonitis fixed by peptides... Happy to assist and share knowledge as always to all fellow brothers... Oh an not to mention fertility, geez im sounding old lmao....

Thanks Smurf, def interested in peps to fix these elbows. What did you find works best while on the reandron and if you dont mind me asking do you still see an endo to get the reandron? If so how do you maintaim levels?

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[10029185j]

What was wrong with shoulders?

Was your surgery covered by Medicare?

I see an orthopedic surgeon tomorrow to check my MRI results.




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Hey mate, I know you were asking Smurf but thought I'd chime in given my experience. I have had a torn labrum, hillsachs lesion and ligament tears in the shoulder. Never had a rotator cuff tear. What happ to yours? My surgery was done in Canberra two years ago partly covered, had to go private as wait list was too long. Make sure you discuss all findings with the surgeon, recovery times and physio as its all part. Hope this helps bro

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[OceanusLabs]

Glad to see you stuck around too mate

Thanks Prime. I'm always on the lookout for good deals and info (esp about PCT - my big weakness)

 

[prime863]

Thanks Prime. I'm always on the lookout for good deals and info (esp about PCT - my big weakness)

wont lie PCT is probably my weaker point in terms of overall knowledge, studying up more on that, getting onto HCG then ill move onto studying more on Insulin, not something I want to dabble with myself, mostly due to the Puffy look it gives a lot of people but still like to be educated

 

[instacunt]

Anyone have issues getting yohimbine in?

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[AddarInc]

Never attempted. I'd say you'd have trouble.
Issues down below?

Extended Pct? Clomid / nova.
- goat weed
- cialis?

 

[prime863]

Anyone have issues getting yohimbine in?

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if you can find a fellow stocking ATECs stuff they had Yohimbine back in the day

 

[AddarInc]

I'm done with the forums tonight. I'll be about you know where! Anything urgent spam me. Actually don't that'll annoy me. Again, throw some support bjornb way.. It would go a long way.

 

[258]

u need some arimidex or somthing to lower estrogen a bit and brain fog will clear up and you will feel much, much better. talk to ur endo about it, otherwise get some arimidex and idk maybe .25 eod for a bit.

Yeh conservative as fuck, it can be more bother than worth going thro an endo... it's far tooo policy now days.

I did the endo runaround for 2 years then my GP said he'd just gimme what I want

 

[skinnyfat87]

I'm done with the forums tonight. I'll be about you know where! Anything urgent spam me. Actually don't that'll annoy me. Again, throw some support bjornb way.. It would go a long way.

I don't have his wickr but pass on my support for whatever is going on!

 

[Danman1979]

Grats Addar and Plat on VIP

Job well done fellas, keep up the great work.

 

[splunk]

I'm done with the forums tonight. I'll be about you know where! Anything urgent spam me. Actually don't that'll annoy me. Again, throw some support bjornb way.. It would go a long way.

Just caught up on the thread, pls pass on my support to BjornB, hope all is well.

 

[AddarInc]

Grats Addar and Plat on VIP

Job well done fellas, keep up the great work.

Thanks. Will do what we can.. Or can't. Or try. Something like that

 

[foreverbulk]

Anyone watched the YouTube video off rich piana claiming he comes off gear 4 months at a time and loses no size lol


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[AddarInc]

Anyone watched the YouTube video off rich piana claiming he comes off gear 4 months at a time and loses no size lol


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No I haven't. When I first got into the scene I was like OMG this guy is awesome.. Well, yeah found him misleading abusive of the gear.
To give him credit he is massive.. Insanely massive.

 

[foreverbulk]

No I haven't. When I first got into the scene I was like OMG this guy is awesome.. Well, yeah found him misleading abusive of the gear.
To give him credit he is massive.. Insanely massive.

I just watched his 8 hour arm workout for the first time, I really am tempted to give it a go lol. But 16 protein shakes & 8 hours in gym is pretty hectic claims should grow from it, yeah he is massive. So he obviously knows how to get big lol


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[AddarInc]

Of course.. But bro, really?? I'm sure you could think of something better to do. Like attention to the MRS!

Anyhow, gotta stop posting, NEK Minit new thread again.

 

[harrywho]

he deff doesn't come off for 4 months. or his version of comming off is still several grams and hgh.

training on steroids is different to training natty that's for sure, and his arms are huge. must be somthing to this 8 hour thing.

these are the dudes that have heart attacks from the gear for sure. hopefully never me, or us. with our reasonable blast/cruise doses. even with lifetime use.

 

[Smurfed]

he deff doesn't come off for 4 months. or his version of comming off is still several grams and hgh.

training on steroids is different to training natty that's for sure, and his arms are huge. must be somthing to this 8 hour thing.

these are the dudes that have heart attacks from the gear for sure. hopefully never me, or us. with our reasonable blast/cruise doses. even with lifetime use.

None of the pros come off, always misleading... You too can be jay cutler eating all your veggies and taking creative with protein shakes... Pfft, oh look a unicorn!!!!!

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None of the pros come off, always misleading... You too can be jay cutler eating all your veggies and taking creative with protein shakes... Pfft, oh look a unicorn!!!!!

Creative? Wtf... Damn autocorrect "creatine"

 

[AddarInc]

Lol.. They're paid to promote. It's the way it is. Politics.. The ones who follow the head remain on course! Do we really know what these guys run? Real answer.. No. Why would they come out when they can feed us bullshit and make a living off it.

 

[Smurfed]

what's ur take on fertility? ideally 250iu hcg twice week indefinitely.
what if I get cut off and lose my hcg for say, 6 or 12 months? should be sweet eh? for a blast and cruiser. and 90 days prior to conception 1500iu hcg twice weekly.

Dunno if you wanted it posted publicly so I sent you some Wickr brother....

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What was wrong with shoulders?

Was your surgery covered by Medicare?

I see an orthopedic surgeon tomorrow to check my MRI results.




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Torn rotator cuffs, Spurs and bursitis, private health covered all. Had bone shaved never had issues since...
Plenty of advice for the young and inunformed... It's a marathon not a race, patience got me to 110kg, 6% at 5'9

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Thanks Smurf, def interested in peps to fix these elbows. What did you find works best while on the reandron and if you dont mind me asking do you still see an endo to get the reandron? If so how do you maintaim levels?

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I hope that advice helps you in your journey, anymore questions I'm best on Wickr as you've noticed lol....

 

[jimmy jim]

WOW, been gone for a couple of days, and part 4 of the Aussie saga continues!! So much reading to catch up on.
Awesome to see Adder, and Plat become VIPs , Good guys, with a great reputation.
Evo def has the best Aussie forum by far. Its a great community, with good peeps, willing to help one another out.
I look forward to sitting back at night and catching up on all the threads and posts.
Its an important part of my evenings

 

[Smurfed]

Lol.. They're paid to promote. It's the way it is. Politics.. The ones who follow the head remain on course! Do we really know what these guys run? Real answer.. No. Why would they come out when they can feed us bullshit and make a living off it.

Exactly, they get paid to, multi billion dollars in supplements ain't bad is it.... But some of these pros also have implant remember, it ain't all muscle....

Money, and the world turns....

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So, snickers anyone? C'mon you know you want to Addar....

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Juicy, how was that pizza? I know you ate the whole thing....

 

[Oppositeofnatty]

Hey mate, I know you were asking Smurf but thought I'd chime in given my experience. I have had a torn labrum, hillsachs lesion and ligament tears in the shoulder. Never had a rotator cuff tear. What happ to yours? My surgery was done in Canberra two years ago partly covered, had to go private as wait list was too long. Make sure you discuss all findings with the surgeon, recovery times and physio as its all part. Hope this helps bro

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Ahh thanks mate,

Not sure what happen to mine. Just slowly got sore over 7 years of training. And now it's at a point where it's too much.

Find out results from MRI today


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[AddarInc]

need me, contact me Wickr only.

Will not be overlooking forums for a little. Straight up, my mother.. Parent, the lady who gave birth to me just attempted the most selfish act one can do.. Take her own life.

I'm Ok. Continue as we do. Don't feel after reading this any of you are burdening me.. Actually helps, keeps this "still" time moving

 

[Verses]

need me, contact me Wickr only.

Will not be overlooking forums for a little. Straight up, my mother.. Parent, the lady who gave birth to me just attempted the most selfish act one can do.. Take her own life.

I'm Ok. Continue as we do. Don't feel after reading this any of you are burdening me.. Actually helps, keeps this "still" time moving

I find your lack of sleep disturbing.

When I cut, I need my rest....... How are you doing it.

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[instacunt]

if you can find a fellow stocking ATECs stuff they had Yohimbine back in the day

Haven't seen atec around for ages! Always had a good rep

 

[splunk]

I mentioned it before but I think you guys are missing the point, a lot of riches size is from collagen injections. It's just a better version of synthol IMO.

It's just FILLER guys, if rich stopped training it would not disappear or go away it's like scar tissue it's permanent. This is why if you look at him he is oddly out of proportion.

Google pmma injections for bodybuilding.

 

[prime863]

Haven't seen atec around for ages! Always had a good rep

There is still a good reputable source around with a direct connection to Atec

 

[splunk]

If you want solid evidence backed nutrition and training advice you can't go past Eric Helms new books:

http://muscleandstrengthpyramids.com

There are also free videos on the site which covers a lot of the information as well.


Here is Lyle McDonalds review of the books:

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/muscle-and-strength-pyramids-eric-helms.html/

 

[OceanusLabs]

I mentioned it before but I think you guys are missing the point, a lot of riches size is from collagen injections. It's just a better version of synthol IMO.

It's just FILLER guys, if rich stopped training it would not disappear or go away it's like scar tissue it's permanent. This is why if you look at him he is oddly out of proportion.

Google pmma injections for bodybuilding.

Would you really want to look like Rich though?

 

[MeksCheeky]

need a source check. got some Alpha Pharma Aromex (Aromasin). there was a scratchy on it and i put the code into "check-alpha.com" and it said it was safe to use, seems legit but wanted to
double check since this is AUS lol

 

[Oppositeofnatty]

I mentioned it before but I think you guys are missing the point, a lot of riches size is from collagen injections. It's just a better version of synthol IMO.

It's just FILLER guys, if rich stopped training it would not disappear or go away it's like scar tissue it's permanent. This is why if you look at him he is oddly out of proportion.

Google pmma injections for bodybuilding.

Did he get these injections in cock? Because his cock hangs lower than his balls


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[Verses]

Did he get these injections in cock? Because his cock hangs lower than his balls


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Your cock is meant to hang lower then your balls. Especially on gear.

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[Oppositeofnatty]

Your cock is meant to hang lower then your balls. Especially on gear.

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I think you missed the point haha.

He had a video on it


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[juicywiggle31]

Wiggle wiggle wiggle!

Been busy as work work work.

Jab Jab jab lift lift lift eat eat eat... ahhhh


How's everyone? ☺

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[Oppositeofnatty]

Wiggle wiggle wiggle!

Been busy as work work work.

Jab Jab jab lift lift lift eat eat eat... ahhhh


How's everyone? ☺

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Life's fucked right now, off training due to shoulder injurys. I feel like a computer nerd.

Hopefully syntha prop and tren picks me back up when I start


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[juicywiggle31]

Life's fucked right now, off training due to shoulder injurys. I feel like a computer nerd.

Hopefully syntha prop and tren picks me back up when I start


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Fuck! That was me 1 week ago bro shoulder injures legit the worst thing for gym bursitis and tendinitis.

Only thing to do is rest unfortunately.


I'm sure they will brother

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[Oppositeofnatty]

Fuck! That was me 1 week ago bro shoulder injures legit the worst thing for gym bursitis and tendinitis.

Only thing to do is rest unfortunately.


I'm sure they will brother

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That's no good bro.

I see and orthepedic surgeon today to have a look at my MRI results. Still haven't found the diagnosis yet. Hoping its cortisone injections. I'll be pissed if I need a reco.
Laterz gains

Is your shoulders bursitis?



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[juicywiggle31]

Hoping for the best for you bro fingers crossed!

Yeah bursitis and tendinitis lol it comes and goes. Over working the shoulder flares it up.
I was going to get a cortisone but it just covers up the pain and can make it worst as you don't feel the pain.



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[plat]

need a source check. got some Alpha Pharma Aromex (Aromasin). there was a scratchy on it and i put the code into "check-alpha.com" and it said it was safe to use, seems legit but wanted to
double check since this is AUS lol

If it checks out on the website that's the best you'll get from an authentication check. Apart from that, get bloods done to check your oestrogen levels after the aromasin has been in your system for two weeks

 

[10029185j]

I did the endo runaround for 2 years then my GP said he'd just gimme what I want

Fk wish my GP was like tht

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[plat]

Fk wish my GP was like tht

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But that feeling of up and downs for 2 years would drive most ppl to feeling depressed.
Trt should really get reviewed under current aus healthy schemes.
If its going to Give a person a better life it seems unjust to knock a patient away

 

[258]

Fk wish my GP was like tht

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Took a lot to get his trust, I think he realised I knew more than him.

 

[258]

But that feeling of up and downs for 2 years would drive most ppl to feeling depressed.
Trt should really get reviewed under current aus healthy schemes.
If its going to Give a person a better life it seems unjust to knock a patient away

The last review was only 6 months ago and they determined that men could survive at 6 nmol/L, reduced from 12 nMol/L.

I promise you, if you've ever been down that low, you can't work, think, smile, fuck, function.

Australian government is solely responsible for this piss poor situation. They have blood on there hands.

Another reason why my doc will prescribe me test whoever I want it. It's not cheap though.

 

[plat]

The last review was only 6 months ago and they determined that men could survive at 6 nmol/L, reduced from 12 nMol/L.

I promise you, if you've ever been down that low, you can't work, think, smile, fuck, function.

Australian government is solely responsible for this piss poor situation. They have blood on there hands.

Another reason why my doc will prescribe me test whoever I want it. It's not cheap though.

6nmol/L wow. That really shows that concern for the male state of well being has completely been thrown out of the window.
They talk about depression and how it effects everyone and the suffering it causes. But low T levels directly correlates to that.

 

[harrywho]

The last review was only 6 months ago and they determined that men could survive at 6 nmol/L, reduced from 12 nMol/L.

I promise you, if you've ever been down that low, you can't work, think, smile, fuck, function.

Australian government is solely responsible for this piss poor situation. They have blood on there hands.

Another reason why my doc will prescribe me test whoever I want it. It's not cheap though.

well said... it's fucked alright.

just more reason for people to turn to underground sources.
but what's really sad is all the men suffering for years and years, before ever/if ever discovering ugl sources.

apparently with the changes only an endo can prescribe test now, not a gp. and Yeh has to be 6.
even at 12 life was miserable as fuck for me.
6 is suicide

 

[AustBenny]

So is it just tuna and water all day?


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Yup, tuna and water, nothing else for three days.

Five or six equal servings of tuna, so I'll be doing 200g drained Sirena tuna in springwater five times a day and shoot for a 600ml bottle of water five times a day for 3 litres water. See how it goes.

Supposed to shred you up precontest style and then for the next couple days you can reintroduce carbs and I guess you fill up nicely after being so depleted.

 

[10029185j]

The last review was only 6 months ago and they determined that men could survive at 6 nmol/L, reduced from 12 nMol/L.

I promise you, if you've ever been down that low, you can't work, think, smile, fuck, function.

Australian government is solely responsible for this piss poor situation. They have blood on there hands.

Another reason why my doc will prescribe me test whoever I want it. It's not cheap though.

Spot on mate. I was at 6 last year and my brother in the states could not believe the GPs would not give me anything. One night I told a doctor how bad it was and he finally gave me some testogel. Was expensive but 95 bucks for a mth and I was so much better. He should have given me injectable though but there all pussy. Rather give you anti depressants than a hormone your body needs... blood on your hands is spot on mate. Im a year and a half in after three injections of this reandron and only up to 20 with high estrogen...

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[10029185j]

6nmol/L wow. That really shows that concern for the male state of well being has completely been thrown out of the window.
They talk about depression and how it effects everyone and the suffering it causes. But low T levels directly correlates to that.

Mate I was so depressed and could not get a nut at all and my girl fine lol

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[258]

well said... it's fucked alright.

just more reason for people to turn to underground sources.
but what's really sad is all the men suffering for years and years, before ever/if ever discovering ugl sources.

apparently with the changes only an endo can prescribe test now, not a gp. and Yeh has to be 6.
even at 12 life was miserable as fuck for me.
6 is suicide

FYI guys, you only need an endo and 2 tests under 6 if you want the govt subsidy. Your GP can hand you a prescription whenever he wants, you just pay the subsidy margin as well. What's that? About $3 per shot of primoteston.

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FYI guys, you only need an endo and 2 tests under 6 if you want the govt subsidy. Your GP can hand you a prescription whenever he wants, you just pay the subsidy margin as well. What's that? About $3 per shot of primoteston.

Also reandron is supposed to be once every 10 weeks solution.... It's not, it needs to be monitored, I know people who take there reandron every 3 weeks.

 

[AddarInc]

Thanks for support messages guys.

Operating on no sleep, but could be worst!

 

[foreverbulk]

Thanks for support messages guys.

Operating on no sleep, but could be worst!

Just be positive mate, don't let it bring you down. Remember health is more important!


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[10029185j]

FYI guys, you only need an endo and 2 tests under 6 if you want the govt subsidy. Your GP can hand you a prescription whenever he wants, you just pay the subsidy margin as well. What's that? About $3 per shot of primoteston.

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Also reandron is supposed to be once every 10 weeks solution.... It's not, it needs to be monitored, I know people who take there reandron every 3 weeks.

Thats how I got it but fk was suffering while those testd were low. Reandron costs about 37 not bad

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[Verses]

The last review was only 6 months ago and they determined that men could survive at 6 nmol/L, reduced from 12 nMol/L.

I promise you, if you've ever been down that low, you can't work, think, smile, fuck, function.

Australian government is solely responsible for this piss poor situation. They have blood on there hands.

Another reason why my doc will prescribe me test whoever I want it. It's not cheap though.

Keep the prescription, and get it overseas.

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[prime863]

Seems like a few fellas on here are having it tough on the home front, had an average day myself
gave almost 3k to my lawyers, found out the fines I'm looking at most likely around 1.5k (due next week)
Aircon crapped itself on the way home on a 3hr trip, started smoking the car, pulled over, flicked the AC off and I was good, downside no AC till its fixed .. but am virtually broke (bodybuilding comes first lol) also need to get break pads replaced, god knows how much there too.
felt like just leaving the car and walking off, was so frustrated with all the events that have happened the last few months ... but i stopped and realised there are other lads here going through a lot worse, and that I should consider myself lucky.

Chin up to all you guys having it hard, just remember, Tough times don't last, but tough people do

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Yup, tuna and water, nothing else for three days.

Five or six equal servings of tuna, so I'll be doing 200g drained Sirena tuna in springwater five times a day and shoot for a 600ml bottle of water five times a day for 3 litres water. See how it goes.

Supposed to shred you up precontest style and then for the next couple days you can reintroduce carbs and I guess you fill up nicely after being so depleted.

do you worry about Mercury ?

 

[MeksCheeky]

If it checks out on the website that's the best you'll get from an authentication check. Apart from that, get bloods done to check your oestrogen levels after the aromasin has been in your system for two weeks

alright good idea will be getting them done anyway aswell

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I got some Pharma LDG and RAD-140 today, is RAD-140 good while on test? i was thinking save LDG for my cruise and do rad with some tbol or dbol for a nice kick

 

[foreverbulk]

Seems like a few fellas on here are having it tough on the home front, had an average day myself
gave almost 3k to my lawyers, found out the fines I'm looking at most likely around 1.5k (due next week)
Aircon crapped itself on the way home on a 3hr trip, started smoking the car, pulled over, flicked the AC off and I was good, downside no AC till its fixed .. but am virtually broke (bodybuilding comes first lol) also need to get break pads replaced, god knows how much there too.
felt like just leaving the car and walking off, was so frustrated with all the events that have happened the last few months ... but i stopped and realised there are other lads here going through a lot worse, and that I should consider myself lucky.

Chin up to all you guys having it hard, just remember, Tough times don't last, but tough people do

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do you worry about Mercury ?

Doesn't not sound like a good day at all brother!!
When money gets tight I use do a cruise that way can focus on the important things lol


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[Kippspulling]

The last review was only 6 months ago and they determined that men could survive at 6 nmol/L, reduced from 12 nMol/L.

I promise you, if you've ever been down that low, you can't work, think, smile, fuck, function.

Australian government is solely responsible for this piss poor situation. They have blood on there hands.

Another reason why my doc will prescribe me test whoever I want it. It's not cheap though.

WHAT?! I tested at 9.9nMol/L around 9 months ago and they were like "That's normal" despite feeling like shit 24/7. Glad I've taken matters into my own hands.

 

[10029185j]

Seems like a few fellas on here are having it tough on the home front, had an average day myself
gave almost 3k to my lawyers, found out the fines I'm looking at most likely around 1.5k (due next week)
Aircon crapped itself on the way home on a 3hr trip, started smoking the car, pulled over, flicked the AC off and I was good, downside no AC till its fixed .. but am virtually broke (bodybuilding comes first lol) also need to get break pads replaced, god knows how much there too.
felt like just leaving the car and walking off, was so frustrated with all the events that have happened the last few months ... but i stopped and realised there are other lads here going through a lot worse, and that I should consider myself lucky.

Chin up to all you guys having it hard, just remember, Tough times don't last, but tough people do

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do you worry about Mercury ?

Fk bro be safe

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[querulous1]

Hmm just checked my last bloods done. Never done a cycle. I'm 24 and it's at 16.4. Is that bad for my age? My free test is at 383

 

[harrywho]

it seems like instead of the Australian government focusing on science and medicine, testosterone treatment has been overshadowed with stereotypes or that it's just for athletes and bodybuilders.

wheres the science? pathetic

kinda like with weed, only now have we become open enough to re look at the actual benefits.

are we living in the dark ages?

I think any male in his 20s with less than 14 or 15 points out of 40, should be eligible. and there should be a sliding scale that fits in line with age.
even the endos think it's a joke...
fuck them and just get ur gear underground.

 

[258]

it seems like instead of the Australian government focusing on science and medicine, testosterone treatment has been overshadowed with stereotypes or that it's just for athletes and bodybuilders.

wheres the science? pathetic

kinda like with weed, only now have we become open enough to re look at the actual benefits.

are we living in the dark ages?

I think any male in his 20s with less than 14 or 15 points out of 40, should be eligible. and there should be a sliding scale that fits in line with age.
even the endos think it's a joke...
fuck them and just get ur gear underground.

Exactly, it's easier for me yo get UG gear, doc cost money for a chat. I get a script when I visit him, but if I'm not visiting I won't bother.

 

[prime863]

Doesn't not sound like a good day at all brother!!
When money gets tight I use do a cruise that way can focus on the important things lol

highly considering it mate, probably will in the coming weeks, 32 weeks till comp so have time

Fk bro be safe

yeah I'm stretching the service that's due on the break pads pretty far, its a fuk tonne over due, but funds are low

All in all seeing good progress on this cut, as I mentioned have been running shit gear (mutant labs or whatever) and just got back on the good stuff (jungle juice, soon to be using ARL) so ive been trimming down on a cruise dose or roundabouts for 3-4 weeks
so I'm keen to see what happens now

 

[Kippspulling]

it seems like instead of the Australian government focusing on science and medicine, testosterone treatment has been overshadowed with stereotypes or that it's just for athletes and bodybuilders.

wheres the science? pathetic

kinda like with weed, only now have we become open enough to re look at the actual benefits.

are we living in the dark ages?

I think any male in his 20s with less than 14 or 15 points out of 40, should be eligible. and there should be a sliding scale that fits in line with age.
even the endos think it's a joke...
fuck them and just get ur gear underground.

Here here!

How can there be a reference range that covers everyone regardless of if their in their teens or nearly in the grave? It just doesn't make sense.

 

[10029185j]

Amen!

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[G1LL1CK]

I just want to know where these lads are that are pushing 30-40nmol naturally?
So rediculous how anywhere from 8 - 40 is "normal range"..
Test is supposed to start dropping around 30-40 years old..
Not be bouncing above the minimum in your mid 20's!

 

[TheT]

Hey fellas, just letting you all know that I found @foreverbulk very helpful, received some sweet looking products next day via express post.

Looking forward to starting my tour de france tomorrow.

Doing an 8 weeker@ 125mg eod with Syntha test p, aromasin for a.i and nolva pct.

Is stacking with clomid, hcg, or res100 worthwhile lads?

 

[prime863]

Doesn't not sound like a good day at all brother!!
When money gets tight I use do a cruise that way can focus on the important things lol


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Fk bro be safe

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Hey fellas, just letting you all know that I found @foreverbulk very helpful, received some sweet looking products next day via express post.

Looking forward to starting my tour de france tomorrow.

Doing an 8 weeker@ 125mg eod with Syntha test p, aromasin for a.i and nolva pct.

Is stacking with clomid, hcg, or res100 worthwhile lads?

if youre Fussy about it sure, but otherwise just the nolva would be fine realistically mate

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Doesn't not sound like a good day at all brother!!
When money gets tight I use do a cruise that way can focus on the important things lol


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Fk bro be safe

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@forever most likely will when I'm leaner, have plenty of time
@10029185j yeah those brake pads are getting thin, gonna get them looked at before the aircon maybe

 

[harrywho]

my air con has gone, and my car has been leaking puddles of coolant. kept filling it up everytime I'd get in the car. anyway, stuck some electrical tape around the pipe it was leaking from... I'm unemployed atm, but I have my priorities... steroids, had to have enough cash for my steroids. and some brothel visits.
fuck I hate being poor.
shit times atm.
in other news I'm up a few kg in less than 2 weeks, and don't even look all bloated or anything. and been tanning in my parents 1.6mil+ house/pool Ed with a giant inflatable duck... looking dark. but otherwise glim hope for a job lol.

 

[arrrtz]

Seems like a few fellas on here are having it tough on the home front, had an average day myself
gave almost 3k to my lawyers, found out the fines I'm looking at most likely around 1.5k (due next week)
Aircon crapped itself on the way home on a 3hr trip, started smoking the car, pulled over, flicked the AC off and I was good, downside no AC till its fixed .. but am virtually broke (bodybuilding comes first lol) also need to get break pads replaced, god knows how much there too.
felt like just leaving the car and walking off, was so frustrated with all the events that have happened the last few months ... but i stopped and realised there are other lads here going through a lot worse, and that I should consider myself lucky.

Chin up to all you guys having it hard, just remember, Tough times don't last, but tough people do

LOL reminds me of back in the day when i was 18 out of home and broke. Wore all the way through the pads was going metal to metal.
I stopped the car by downshifting then engaging the hand brake! Always stayed in from of the pack so i couldnt rear end anyone.
I have a complex to this day i cant stand being behind anyone in traffic lol.

You're right mate the tough times won't last and you'll come out the other end stronger and wiser.

 

[OceanusLabs]

Agreed. Shit times come and go and it doesnt get easier, but you do.