hawthorn berry dosage on cycle

[Lewandoski]

I'm running test and deca and my blood pressure raised from water retention I guess, I check it weekly when I cycle, a lot of articles say because roids the BP tend to increase it, but this time it's been the highest.
There is an older guy at my gym that says he trained at Golds and told me to take Hawthorn Berry. This seem like a real simple and easy fix to try, before goign to my doc about BP from steroids. Have any of you guys had any success with this sort of treatment.

 

[muskate]

Are you using any support supplements with your cycle? Test + deca is pretty much the gold standard for increasing size and strength. It's a classic 'bulking cycle'. It's fantastic for putting on muscle.
The main problem is that both deca and test are known to cause a lot of water retention if you aren't using the proper support supplements with your cycle.

Remember to include the proper support supplements with your cycle:
1. An AI to keep estrogen in the low-normal range. Aromasin at 10mg EOD is a good dosage.
2. An anti-prolactin drug to keep prolactin in the low-normal range. Cabergoline at 0.25mg EOD is a good dosage.

The support supplements are very important because high estrogen and prolactin levels can lead to side effects like gyno and water retention.

If you are already using an AI and anti-prolactin drug with your cycle, your best option for a natural supplement to lower blood pressure would be a multi ingredient product like N2guard from n2bm.com. Herbal based supplements work best when stacked together as they work synergistically.

Keep a close eye on your blood pressure. If it doesn't start to go down - go to your doctor and get him to write you a prescription for a blood pressure medication. Don't take this lightly. Blood pressure is a silent killer.

 

[Jay Scott]

Even though hawthorn berry will help, if you have elevated blood pressure due to a cycle that you are running, I would highly suggest considering adding aromasin in your cycle, if high estrogen is the culprit.

Firstly you need to check your bloods just to be sure and then (high chance that I might be right) if e2 is high - get your hands on aromasin

 

[LevButlerov]

In such a situation my first question is - are you using any ancillaries with your steroids? If not, then you should rather use those, than hawthorn berries. These will be indeed beneficial for water retention, but if it is caused by excessive estrogen levels as a consequence of steroid use without ancillaries, these won't help. You should be using an AI in order to control estrogen levels on cycle, and cabergoline in order to control prolactin levels when taking nandrolone based steroids (such as deca and trenbolone). What's more, you should be using those from the first day of the cycle, and if you were not doing so up to now, you should do so ASAP. Aromasin and cabergoline would be the optimal choices in your case. Also, N2Guard is a very good liver and kidney supporter, and it would be a much better alternative, since it has hawthorn berry, and 40 ingredients more.

 

[stevesmi]

surprised only lev mentioned n2guard.

n2guard contains this and dozens of additional supplements are designed to protect your organs.

 

[jp4355]

I'm running test and deca and my blood pressure raised from water retention I guess, I check it weekly when I cycle, a lot of articles say because roids the BP tend to increase it, but this time it's been the highest.
There is an older guy at my gym that says he trained at Golds and told me to take Hawthorn Berry. This seem like a real simple and easy fix to try, before goign to my doc about BP from steroids. Have any of you guys had any success with this sort of treatment.

The 2 best ways to avoid Water Retention, and thus BP Spikes.
Using the Appropriate amount of AI during your Cycle
And Tracking your Sodium Intake ~ so many Guys don't Track Sodium and wonder why they get All Bloated.

Then start with Auxiliary Supplements to address the BP Spikes.
Or like Muskate mentioned, go see a Doctor and have him prescribe something.................................. JP
P.S.
But being Proactive with your Diet and AI use is always #1.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Hawthorn berry is a great ingredient. I get it from the N2Guard I take every day. It is a must to take N2Guard on all cycles. Besides that you definitely need to be running proper support drugs like aromasin for estrogen control and caber for prolactin control. I bet if you get all those 3 in line the blood pressure will increase dramatically.