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The-Kiwi
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Not shocked at all by that, wat it costs to make 400ml test e is bout wat it costs to make 250ml DECA , with the DECA being 200mg ml
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Not shocked at all by that, wat it costs to make 400ml test e is bout wat it costs to make 250ml DECA , with the DECA being 200mg ml
How do you figure? The HPTA will be suppressed, and as far as I know DHT doesnt convert to testosterone...
Sdmonsterpharma
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And there could also be the fact that its entirely possible to run a successful cycle without testosterone.
Is this a difficult concept?
One of the absolute best cycles Ive ever run is trestolone/MENT + mast. No test at all! If youve got libido, energy (no lethargy), adequate estrogen, and AR binding aplenty by way of your compounds, you dont NEED test. As in, its possible to run a damn good cycle without it.
And lol, no, this doesnt have to mean that one of your compounds was really actually test.
Thappy
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I mean are you going to pct, cruise, or cruise on deca? I know a guy that did a deca only cycle probably 5 years back now. He said it was awesome when he was on it, but when he stopped his dick stopped working and had some pretty serious issues mentally from it. I spoke to this guy for years and he dropped off the face of the earth about. 3 months after he finished his deca only blast.
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It drops total test and gives a false reading for free test.
The-Kiwi
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I've used slin.. Humalog
Thappy
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I have used gh, lantus(long acting slin) and lots of humalog and novarapid(both fast acting) can cut and bulk on both all depends what you eat and when you eat it.
diragz
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6 weeks deca and dbol, 4 weeks off then 6 weeks on, rinse repeat a few times.
4 weeks off is to reset myostatin tolerance each time.
PCT is taurine and Clomid. Estrogen won't be high so no overally emotional rebound.
I'm skepitcal about pct but based on research it should be ok
I'll be labmax'ing the deca. If it's got test I ask for refund. Won't run it till I test all vials
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Hopefully works out well for you man.
I got one week and I'll be starting about 24 weeks.
1g test
800 primobolan e.
350 masteron
25mg proviron
1 week drol then swap to anavar or anavar plus tbol. And just cycle those orals throughout.
1 week drol cause after that feel like shit plus gain a bit of size in even just a week. Feel small cruising atm.
Prob add 6 or 8 weeks of tren I there somewhere
Deca will give false high testosterone results on blood test. Medically documented it does this. Expect high T levels in the absence of T supplements whilst using Deca. Your T levels wont actually be high, just the blood results will say so. Deca interferes with the testing method.
http://imedical.com.au/order/blood-tests/sport-hormone-private-blood-tests
http://imedical.com.au/order/blood-tests/sport-hormone-private-blood-tests
Thappy
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You are very very very game.....
One thing to blast an cruise and do it (could understand that) But to do it and PCT you are asking for trouble....
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Consult your nearest vet hahaha fuk
Thappy
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Ill be honest it was the first time i saw anything get fisted. God bless him
Lol what!? Am I missing somthing here.
Thappy
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You should be all over this harry or all in it... not really sure which one though
Thappy
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Misses n I tried a bit of dirty talk with her calling me daddy... We never thought we'd like that but it's actually hot. Dont knock anything till you try it. She hasn't fisted me tho... Yet! Or fisted her I should say bahaha.
No way my fist would fit anyway in any of her holes lol.
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Owhh I'm guessing he fisted an animal. I tried watching girls fuck horses but yeh... Anyway wtf.
Thappy
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You obviously havnt seen Tom Green hahhaahah
Thappy
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Thappy
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For once i had some $ in bitcoin with it going up not down haha
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But be very aware it takes a lot of testing to be able to read them correctly. Not something you can pick up after one test
Wait wtf has someone hacked Harrys acc?? He's done literally everything else besides fisting he's girl ?? Thought it woulda been the first thing ya done haha
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Man I can pick Up a basketball with one hand. I'm 6'5" over 100kg and the misses is 5" 45kg asian. My fist ain't fitting in those holes lol....
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Arhh wtf did I just watch haha
Thappy
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You have not lived until you have watched freddy got fingered.. Get onto it. Maybe get the mrs in some sexy outfit or something
Okay guys, I need a hand with this.
A friend of mine is a lecturer and researcher (anthropology) at the University of Queensland, and she's doing research on individuals who take performance drugs for recreational reasons (as in, they don't compete). She needs to present some of her findings to a conference in just over a month, and she would very much appreciate some more participants in her research.
If you can, please message "mairunderwood" on Wickr to talk to her about your use. Say I (bjorn) sent you, she'll know who that is.
She aims to reduce the stigma towards PED users in the academic field, as well as in the community more broadly. She's hoping that her research can be used to lobby politicians to change the legislative attitudes towards PED use (make the law understand that a large number of users just want to have access to quality, reliable steroid sources).
Some people within our community have already spoken to her and if they want to, they can vouch for her legitimacy as an individual. Police cannot request information from her, they are powerless in that respect and she keeps all participants anonymous via aliases.
Honestly, if you want to make a difference for our community, this is one way to do it.
A friend of mine is a lecturer and researcher (anthropology) at the University of Queensland, and she's doing research on individuals who take performance drugs for recreational reasons (as in, they don't compete). She needs to present some of her findings to a conference in just over a month, and she would very much appreciate some more participants in her research.
If you can, please message "mairunderwood" on Wickr to talk to her about your use. Say I (bjorn) sent you, she'll know who that is.
She aims to reduce the stigma towards PED users in the academic field, as well as in the community more broadly. She's hoping that her research can be used to lobby politicians to change the legislative attitudes towards PED use (make the law understand that a large number of users just want to have access to quality, reliable steroid sources).
Some people within our community have already spoken to her and if they want to, they can vouch for her legitimacy as an individual. Police cannot request information from her, they are powerless in that respect and she keeps all participants anonymous via aliases.
Honestly, if you want to make a difference for our community, this is one way to do it.
will do.
On a side note, went to get my blood results back today and you wouldnt farken believe it but apparently the lab lost the vials of blood they took out and therefore havent done anything. TO say im shitted off is an understatement! ANyone ever experience this shit before?
Inb4 blood got used for satanic ritual...
I'm all for helping researchers. It's pumped up nike bikies that fucked up the image of ped users mostly I reckon. Some of the old school users should be able to give a history on why they were reclassified.
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Because everything is illegal in Australia... Just how Australia is.
Seems they've allowed us to have sarms and peptides...
Found this. Sides would be fucked. Think I'd lose all my hair in 6-12 months if I ran this lol
Pro Cycle
12 weeks out
- 3,000mg testosterone cypionate per week
- 1,000mg deca durabolin per week
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 200mg TNE pre workout (5 days per week)
- 24iu serostim monday through friday
- 15iu humalog before every meal
- 25iu humalog pre workout
8 weeks out
- 3,000mg testosterone propionate per week
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 1,400mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,000mg primobolan enanthate per week
- 200mg TNE pre workout (5 days per week)
- 24iu serostim monday through friday
- 15iu humalog before breakfast
- 25iu humalog pre workout
- taper up to 120mcg hubei clenbuterol and 100mcg t3 alternated every 2 weeks with 50mg ephedrine/200mg caffeine every 4 hours
- 1mg ketotifen before bed while using EC
- 2.5mg femara every day
- 1mg arimadex every day
4 weeks out
- 2,800mg TNE per week (workout days: 100mg upon waking/200mg preworkout/100mg before bed, off days: 100mg every 4-6 hours)
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 1,400mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,500mg primobolan depot per week
- 200mg winstrol suspension per day
- 24iu serostim every day
- 3,000mg metformin every day (divide dose between carb meals)
- 120mcg hubei clenbuterol and 100mcg t3
- 2.5mg femara every day
- 1mg arimadex every day
2 weeks out
- 1,750mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,500mg primobolan depot per week
- 300mg winstrol suspension per week
- 150mg injectable anadrol per day
- 50mg injectable dianabol per day
- 3,000mg metformin every week (divided between carb meals)
- 120mcg hubei clenbuterol
- 100mcg t3
- 1mg ketotifen every day before bed
- 2.5mg femara
- 1mg arimadex
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Off-season doses...
Tren 1.5gms wk
Test 1.5 gms wk
Mast 750 mg wk
Eq 900 mg wk
8 iu HGH ed
8iu slin x2 day
Pro Cycle
12 weeks out
- 3,000mg testosterone cypionate per week
- 1,000mg deca durabolin per week
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 200mg TNE pre workout (5 days per week)
- 24iu serostim monday through friday
- 15iu humalog before every meal
- 25iu humalog pre workout
8 weeks out
- 3,000mg testosterone propionate per week
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 1,400mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,000mg primobolan enanthate per week
- 200mg TNE pre workout (5 days per week)
- 24iu serostim monday through friday
- 15iu humalog before breakfast
- 25iu humalog pre workout
- taper up to 120mcg hubei clenbuterol and 100mcg t3 alternated every 2 weeks with 50mg ephedrine/200mg caffeine every 4 hours
- 1mg ketotifen before bed while using EC
- 2.5mg femara every day
- 1mg arimadex every day
4 weeks out
- 2,800mg TNE per week (workout days: 100mg upon waking/200mg preworkout/100mg before bed, off days: 100mg every 4-6 hours)
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 1,400mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,500mg primobolan depot per week
- 200mg winstrol suspension per day
- 24iu serostim every day
- 3,000mg metformin every day (divide dose between carb meals)
- 120mcg hubei clenbuterol and 100mcg t3
- 2.5mg femara every day
- 1mg arimadex every day
2 weeks out
- 1,750mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,500mg primobolan depot per week
- 300mg winstrol suspension per week
- 150mg injectable anadrol per day
- 50mg injectable dianabol per day
- 3,000mg metformin every week (divided between carb meals)
- 120mcg hubei clenbuterol
- 100mcg t3
- 1mg ketotifen every day before bed
- 2.5mg femara
- 1mg arimadex
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Off-season doses...
Tren 1.5gms wk
Test 1.5 gms wk
Mast 750 mg wk
Eq 900 mg wk
8 iu HGH ed
8iu slin x2 day
I hear your pain. Welcome to my world. You wouldn't believe the new ways the labs find to F up things. Be it collectors taking the wrong tubes, data entry booking the wrong test, specimen reception not preparing the specimen properly. It goes on and on. I have had 11 mistakes in the last 3 weeks from one lab alone. Luckily almost all were able to be fixed without affecting patients. It is turning into a major part of my job double checking what has been done the day before at the labs to try and avoid all this BS.
To lose the actual specimens is pretty bad.
http://imedical.com.au/order/blood-tests/sport-hormone-private-blood-tests
You have definately stayed on top of the tests with the fellas here.
Great contribution you have to offer us all here
Oppositeofnatty
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I don't believe that is precontest for all. I reckon 5% of pros run stupid fucking cycles like that
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AddarInc
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That beautiful moment when you have...
4x sausage McMuffins from the gorgeous Golden Arches called McDonald.
1x hash brown
4x krispy Kreme donuts (Reese’s pieces peanut butter)
1x orange juice
1x coffee
That’s a beautiful moment. And I’m no longer hungry, and I feel awesome (lol)
Happy Wednesday!!!
4x sausage McMuffins from the gorgeous Golden Arches called McDonald.
1x hash brown
4x krispy Kreme donuts (Reese’s pieces peanut butter)
1x orange juice
1x coffee
That’s a beautiful moment. And I’m no longer hungry, and I feel awesome (lol)
Happy Wednesday!!!
Thappy
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Only one hash brown? Letting the team down...
Yup.
Difference between most pros and Average Joe is not how much gear the pro takes, but genetics. Average Joe tries to console himself that, the reason he is average is cos he isnt pinning the Hyooge amounts all te pros pin.
Case in point, the late Rich Piana. Now theres a guy who lived the (false) cliche. Pinned all that gear, yet couldnt cut it on the stage.
Why?
His genes sucked.
Another case in point is The Gift. Heath trains like a lazy mofo. He cruises through his workouts, at least compared to alot of other much smaller guys. Must be all the gear he's on that does the work for him yeah?
Nope. He has ridonk genes. Meaning, he can accomplish what 99.9% of other humans cant. Id bet his gear amounts are hardly high, too.
Oppositeofnatty
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Couldn't of said it better myself.
There's a few we'll known youtubers that talk about some of the pros cycles they done. I'm sure rich even done a video.
They were basically saying in their vids that 95%( or whatever percent they said) of pro cycles aren't as big as the general public seem to think.
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Oppositeofnatty
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And then you have the Boston lloyds who do bigger cycles than the fucking 130kg pros yet he is no where near their size.
Genetics definetely plays the major part no matter how much gear you pump.
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Genetics definetely plays the major part no matter how much gear you pump.
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I thought you were getting back into beast mode bro
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Totally agree about genetics........ that's why I juice because I have the genetics of a menopausal woman in her fifties no lol
Genetics yes, but steroids are a huge factor...
I think psychological health as well... To be able to psychologically handle those compounds at those doses.
You have to have a strong clear mind.
It's not even genetics , it's what works best for you own body ... Look at ronnies career ,, he wasn't anything special at first , then he blew up crazy around 98, you can't say if it was genetics if before he was just like every other average pro ... I rekon it was insulin/good gh that turned him into a freak
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I know it's hard to find legit info and often, at best, you get nothing until the career is over. That's true in this case. There were a bunch of guys, experts and gurus, who all agreed Ronnie took NOTHING (in other words he was a natural) right up to, as you suggest, 98. He mentioned he was the ONLY US athlete that passed the test at one overseas comp (team championships??).
He even competed (when he was next to last) at the O without gear. Heck, I've a strongman buddy who managed to get to the WSM final without using (he's been on cycles since of course). In recent years Ronnie has admitted in the odd interview to using.
Look for the story of Ronnie, Flex Wheeler and Kevin Leverone. The other two joke that they wish they hadn't told him some of their tricks (inc cycles) because once they did he whipped their buts and it was game over.
Verses
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Just think if it as the misses sticking her pinky up ya date while blowing you
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Old UN digested food, gum, meat.... Etc can stay there.
Everytime I have done a cleanse before a cycle, I loose 3 to 5 kgs, and never have bloat,when I start loading, I never eat overly cooked steak, only mince. And stick to 3 to 4 sources of meat. Always hard food, and big fatty ones in the morning.
And have a cheat Sunday meal.
I would urge anyone to try it, and tell me they didn't feel like there gut was reset.
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Now that's a Saturday night lol.
The whole gum being stuck for 7 years in ur stomach is a myth. It might take that long to be digested, but it gets popped out like everything else.
I personally believe all those cleanses are completely bogus... The only cleanse is water... Unless you have constipation, ur body is being cleansed lol.
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Thappy
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I havnt but i want to try one. What do you suggest.
I dont like anything near my ass either.
If anyone is putting anything in asses its me to a woman, then generally once she lets you i lose interest hahah
Verses
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Grow a set and just do it.
No one will know, and when you start eating, after it. Then you will feel amazing.
Till then, just remember when you turn 50,a doctor is going to stick his thumb up there any way. EVERY YEAR.
a cleanse tube is no bigger then the size you sphincter opens to when farting.
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Thappy
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they have blood tests for prostate now trust me hahaha.
So you do actual colon clense? I thought you meant like some drink or something
Oppositeofnatty
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All this male sphincter talk is going evanescent back here in no time
I want to do a cleanse though. I'm gunna try the colon cleanse from chemist
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I want to do a cleanse though. I'm gunna try the colon cleanse from chemist
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Thappy
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Evan might be able to help you with that cleanse/enema
Im guessing a certain 2 people lurking around this forum will help you out with that question man.
Have sparta labs mast e.
Any news on platinumanabolics.is? Only asking because I already purchased a vile of Test E. They are the "house" lab for ausjuice. Just wondering if their gear is quality
aye lads looking for sum local test e and eq ? pm me
Use it man and tell us how is it ?? I have reviews on tabs.
25mg proviron - best quality
️ ️ ️ ️ ️ 25mg dbol - best quality
️ ️ ️ ️ 50mg anadrol - worst quality.. absolutely fake
️ More reviews will be soon.
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Verses
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Yehh... Fuck that. Just take a dump, stick a 10incj dildo in there. And use a shower head enema to spray water in there? Same thing right?
Dont understand a colon cleanse...
Speaking of asses does steroids make you prone to haemorrhoids?
Anyway... Started on 1g test and 1 primobolan e, and 350 mast. This weekend drol and dbol mix just to how I feel cause drol makes me feel meh. So maybe 4 days drol 50mg then 2 days 60dbol then drol. Anyone tried that? Prob not ideal. But the first few days on drol I feel great then after that feel like killing everyone, strange depressed agression and hatred for the world.
Oppositeofnatty
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Dunno if you're wanting test e and eq or if you're selling? The way you worded your question can be read two ways
Page 1 of this thread you will find who to contact so you can get the test e and eq
If you're selling eq and test e, you'll probably get a few messages here telling to you to 'fuck off'
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Lucky I am lean enough to use slin pins lol.
In the future I’d probably pull out and re pin because I was sore for days
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Thappy
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both sides in 1 day.... Im sore, am pinning a little volume... not fun i feel your pain
Actually was worried I may have gotten an infection again as I had been avoiding quads since last time.
Now that was a pain I don’t want to feel again.
Couldn’t even put my phone in my pocket lol.
Bit of ice and rest should do the trick.
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I'm two weeks deep on their Test E 250mg/mL @ 500mg/wk. So far so good, noticing some nice gains in strength and size.
Turinabol/Tbol orals are also working well, running them at 50mg/ED. Their packaging is real schmick and professional. It's a shame about their anadrol..
Turinabol/Tbol orals are also working well, running them at 50mg/ED. Their packaging is real schmick and professional. It's a shame about their anadrol..
Use it man and tell us how is it ?? I have reviews on tabs.
25mg proviron - best quality
25mg dbol - best quality
50mg anadrol - worst quality.. absolutely fake
More reviews will be soon.
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Well I'm two weeks deep in it and starting to notice some decent gains in size and strength.
Running the Test E @500mg/wk with Tbol @50mg/ED. I'll keep you posted
Thappy
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ibupurfin or how ever you spell it bro.
Had to resort to 4 slin pins in the traps this morning... went a lot better than expected, no aching yet lol
Thappy
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I do all my inject apart from lats with slin pins. at he moment 2.5ml a day but will split that between 3 slin pins.
Pecs and Lats are my current favorites especially with compounds with a bit of pip. Using test cyp 300 and test ace and tren ace every day. None of those are overly comfortable apart from the test cyp as that has EO in it.
With pecs start with half a ml through 27g 1/2" about 4-5cm above the nipple. Great spot. Rear delts are good if you can reach them or someone can do them for you. Same goes for volume and needle choice.
Oppositeofnatty
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Do you find it hard pushing GSO or equivalent viscosity oils through a 27g? Ive been using 23's and 25's for glute, ventro glute and quads but seeing as Im thinking about starting B&C i might move to 27g and may even pin the test e subq when on cruise
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First you gotta find them. Then we see...
Righto lads about to start my first tren cycle. Will be the hercules rip blend test tren mast. Planning on starting on 1ml eod and if tolerated well go to 1.5ml then 2ml. Aromasin 12.5mg eod. Was looking at adding var at the end but decided just to increase dosage. Looking to cut hard on this cycle.
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Boys!
u can't like get slightly more ' 'tolerant' of tren can u ?
Week 5 into tren e right now , it's going good, I'm happy,
but nothing ever compares to the first 2 times I've run it .
I'm seriously thinking I got some hell overdosed gear the first couple times and it's skewed my expectations since .
First couple runs I didn't think I was gonna get through it , only ran 400mg and fuck me , the night sweats , had to throw out my mattress and burn my pillows after , the insomnia was off the charts, piss turned fluro not matter how hydrated I was , the gf at the time needed a wheelchair, and I had zero patience
, but fuck I looked soo good,
Every day was exciting to wake up see the changes , every day bigger stronger and way leaner no matter if I had Eaten 4 pizzas and 6litres of ice cream night before .
Ran that lab twice at 400mg with high test and low test , surprisingly the high test made sides slightly easier. Both times, insane results.
I'm running 400mg right now (different lab), it's good don't get me wrong, scale is going up and bf down, id rate it 2nd best , feels better than other runs I've done with other labs where I've even had to up mg , but nothing has come close to the first 2 times I ran it , was seriously savage .
What do u think
Must have been way overdosed And gave me false expectations for every future run? , different raws maybe? Fina or something?
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Good luck bro, tren can be a roller coaster ride that's for sure
I've never run mast
Prob won't need var if u get good results from the tren
u can't like get slightly more ' 'tolerant' of tren can u ?
Week 5 into tren e right now , it's going good, I'm happy,
but nothing ever compares to the first 2 times I've run it .
I'm seriously thinking I got some hell overdosed gear the first couple times and it's skewed my expectations since .
First couple runs I didn't think I was gonna get through it , only ran 400mg and fuck me , the night sweats , had to throw out my mattress and burn my pillows after , the insomnia was off the charts, piss turned fluro not matter how hydrated I was , the gf at the time needed a wheelchair, and I had zero patience
, but fuck I looked soo good,
Every day was exciting to wake up see the changes , every day bigger stronger and way leaner no matter if I had Eaten 4 pizzas and 6litres of ice cream night before .
Ran that lab twice at 400mg with high test and low test , surprisingly the high test made sides slightly easier. Both times, insane results.
I'm running 400mg right now (different lab), it's good don't get me wrong, scale is going up and bf down, id rate it 2nd best , feels better than other runs I've done with other labs where I've even had to up mg , but nothing has come close to the first 2 times I ran it , was seriously savage .
What do u think
Must have been way overdosed And gave me false expectations for every future run? , different raws maybe? Fina or something?
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Good luck bro, tren can be a roller coaster ride that's for sure
I've never run mast
Prob won't need var if u get good results from the tren
Thappy
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Even I'll admit looking forward to a cruise or some long esters
Oppositeofnatty
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@wogboy.
Is it possible the first two times you used the tren it was accurately dosed and now the current tren you have is underdosed?
It is the undergroundlabs you're dealing with. Integrity isn't always there.
Maybe swap to a different brand asap and see what you think in 3-4 weeks when the new stuff is kicking in.
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Is it possible the first two times you used the tren it was accurately dosed and now the current tren you have is underdosed?
It is the undergroundlabs you're dealing with. Integrity isn't always there.
Maybe swap to a different brand asap and see what you think in 3-4 weeks when the new stuff is kicking in.
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Similar experience, was busting chubbies every time the wind changed direction on first run, not so much on 2nd and 3rd.
What I do like is that the vascularity in my quads, calves, lower abs, forearms and biceps has not gone away and I've been off Tren 6 months!
I just do glutes and quads... Pinning 2ml test e Monday and Thursday, 2.5ml primobolan e Tuesday and Friday. And 1ml masteron prop eod.
Need some 5ml syringes and I could do the primo and test in one go.
1g test
1g primo
350 mast
Prob add some tren in there somewhere, but no caber. Or at the end of the tren run take .25 caber just twice to squish extra prolactin.
I noticed comming off caber I got restless leg syndrome... Where when ur tired ur legs uncontrollably move and it's unnerving... It has to do either dopamine... Comes and goes seems bit better now.
24 weeks. Not that familiar with mast yet so it's prop...lot of injecting over those weeks.
Thappy
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If your injecting short esters you need more sites than that mate or you will buildup scar tissue
Interested to hear who the primo goes. Never tried it but wouldn't mind giving it a run sometime
Hmmm been like that for 3 years of blasting/cruising.
I try to do different spots around those areas. Not the exact spot each time. But yeh... Might get some 5ml syringes
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Yeh first time trying it myself. My mate brews so really have unlimited supply so thought fuck it 1g for 24 weeks. Hoping to feel the energetic fresh healthy feeling iv been reading about. As well as improved immune system... Cause fuck i always have a blocked nose I sware.
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