I need some first cycle help..

[Bcat11]

So I am looking to start my first cycle. Basically I want some opinions on how well built this cycle is in terms of correctness in the pct, AI, and dosages. I also want to get some clarification to what some of the meds do.

Cycle:
Dbol: 1-4 weeks @ 35-50mg per day
Testosterone enanthate: 1-12 weeks @ 500 mg per week with 2 injections per week, Monday/Thursday??
Aromatase inhibitor: Aromasin or Exemestane (I know they are the same just adding both for detail): Either 12.5mg ED or 25 EOD? What do you think the best option would be for that? And when coming off would it be correct to just slowly bring myself off before my pct by lowering the dosage slowly or just come off all together? I know my dosages are very general but this is a very mild cycle. What do you think?
Now for my PCT. I was going to do the Nolva and Clomid combination with this. My reasoning is Nolvadex blocks estrogen in only certain places correct? Well breast tissue is one of these spots. This will prevent Gynecomastia while coming off cycle correct? While mixing in Clomid which will stimulate my body to create FSH and LH, brining my natural testosterone production back up to normal levels? Correct me if I am wrong in any of this .

Dosages for PCT:
I would start the PCT roughly 2.5-3 weeks after my last injection of test.
Nolvadex: 4 weeks: 20/20/20/20
Clomid: 100/100/50/50
So 28 days for my pct in total, taking those dosages every day? Please I am very open to opinions with reason!

 

[Mobster]

500mg of test for a first cycle is fine. Heck, my first was dbol only tapering up and down from 30mg.

 

[stevesmi]

everything is okay, i would drop the dbol half ..

the only thing wrong is your PCT. check out the perfect pct and you will be set

 

[The-Kiwi]

Start ya aromasin low, 12.5mg EOD.. Less is more. Drop the dbol, its overkill first cycle.. NO ONE needs 100mg clomid, that shit at that dose will make u a emotional mess lol straight 50mg is fine.. Looks fairly good tho

 

[Bcat11]

500mg of test for a first cycle is fine. Heck, my first was dbol only tapering up and down from 30mg.

Appreciat it! Yeah im not trying to blow up, doing a cycle for more aesthetic reasons if i'm honest. My buddy just got off dbol and he blew up like a balloon. Im fairly sensitive to things too.

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Start ya aromasin low, 12.5mg EOD.. Less is more. Drop the dbol, its overkill first cycle.. NO ONE needs 100mg clomid, that shit at that dose will make u a emotional mess lol straight 50mg is fine.. Looks fairly good tho

So you think my PCT looks good? This is a fairly mild cycle.. so I mean I dont think I need much more.

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everything is okay, i would drop the dbol half ..

the only thing wrong is your PCT. check out the perfect pct and you will be set

I read that sticky... I just felt it was alittle overkill for the cycle im running from what research I have done. What makes you think I should go by that? Either way really appreciate the feed back mate.

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Start ya aromasin low, 12.5mg EOD.. Less is more. Drop the dbol, its overkill first cycle.. NO ONE needs 100mg clomid, that shit at that dose will make u a emotional mess lol straight 50mg is fine.. Looks fairly good tho

My fault for the spam, But I should start my AI as soon as I start my cycle correct? Then slowly come off as I reach my pct?

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Funny when guys say their cycle is "mild"........test and dbol is NOT a mild cycle. You are shutting down HPTA for 16 weeks when you consider esters.

For a first cycle I don't mind the layout but you need to fix that PCT. Run this: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html

 

[Bcat11]

Funny when guys say their cycle is "mild"........test and dbol is NOT a mild cycle. You are shutting down HPTA for 16 weeks when you consider esters.

For a first cycle I don't mind the layout but you need to fix that PCT. Run this: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html

Now when I say mild I do not mean that lightly it's extremely serious and should not be messed with. It is mild compared to dosages of others and other drugs on the market IMO. But i'm reading up on that now. But tell me why do people run pcts such as mine and what makes it obsolete compared to the one you are suggesting? Lots great info coming in thanks all

 

[Eddie Haskell]

everything is okay, i would drop the dbol half.

I agree, because a man's first cycle should be a test'-only cycle.

Beside that, the only deficiency I see is this:

"Nolvadex: 4 weeks: 20/20/20/20
Clomid: 100/100/50/50"

Do this instead:

Nolvadex: 4 weeks: 40/40/20/20
Clomid: 100/100/50/50

Note: For a test'-only cycle, clomid, novaldex and aromasin are all the PCT compounds you will need.

 

[muskate]

Appreciat it! Yeah im not trying to blow up, doing a cycle for more aesthetic reasons if i'm honest. My buddy just got off dbol and he blew up like a balloon. Im fairly sensitive to things too.

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So you think my PCT looks good? This is a fairly mild cycle.. so I mean I dont think I need much more.

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I read that sticky... I just felt it was alittle overkill for the cycle im running from what research I have done. What makes you think I should go by that? Either way really appreciate the feed back mate.

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My fault for the spam, But I should start my AI as soon as I start my cycle correct? Then slowly come off as I reach my pct?

Check out this link on the perfect PCT -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html

Steroids at any dosage are going to suppress your natural testosterone production. You need to run a full and proper PCT to restore that.

Cutting corners when it comes to your PCT makes no sense. What good is your cycle if you gain 20 pounds but don't keep any of it? A proper PCT ensures you keep all the gains you made on your cycle and that your natural testosterone production fully recovers

 

[Bcat11]

Check out this link on the perfect PCT -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html

Steroids at any dosage are going to suppress your natural testosterone production. You need to run a full and proper PCT to restore that.

Cutting corners when it comes to your PCT makes no sense. What good is your cycle if you gain 20 pounds but don't keep any of it? A proper PCT ensures you keep all the gains you made on your cycle and that your natural testosterone production fully recovers

No doubt. Thats why I posted. I am trying to everything correctly. I still have a few weeks of research before I even look into buying anything. Thanks for the input!

 

[The-Kiwi]

Check out this link on the perfect PCT -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html

Steroids at any dosage are going to suppress your natural testosterone production. You need to run a full and proper PCT to restore that.

Cutting corners when it comes to your PCT makes no sense. What good is your cycle if you gain 20 pounds but don't keep any of it? A proper PCT ensures you keep all the gains you made on your cycle and that your natural testosterone production fully recovers

A proper pct isn't the only factor in keeping gains post cycle.. And let's face it, even with a proper pct u aren't gonna keep ALL your gains.. That's just unrealistic

 

[Eddie Haskell]

...even with a proper pct u aren't gonna keep ALL your gains.. That's just unrealistic

Now there's an inarguable point, unfortunately.

 

[rocket765]

Mix in some Nutrabol will help keep alot of gains

 

[The-Kiwi]

Mix in some Nutrabol will help keep alot of gains

Cruising on test will keep gains

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Cruising on test will keep gains

When you cruise, Kiwi, do you first do a one month long PCT and then begin to cruise until your next blast, or do you simply lower your test' dosage following a cycle and not run a PCT?

 

[The-Kiwi]

When you cruise, Kiwi, do you first do a one month long PCT and then begin to cruise until your next blast, or do you simply lower your test' dosage following a cycle and not run a PCT?

I've been cruising / trt for few years now, I've accepted that my test levels are fucked bro. I simply lower my dose in cruise mode.. Its not or everyone , and I'm not advocating it, but for me, its wat I want, I'm at the age, and it helps me to keep gains, libido, stay full and hard, and quality of life's better

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I've been cruising / trt for few years now, I've accepted that my test levels are fucked bro. I simply lower my dose in cruise mode.. Its not or everyone , and I'm not advocating it, but for me, its wat I want, I'm at the age, and it helps me to keep gains, libido, stay full and hard, and quality of life's better

That's about what I had thought because virtually everyone I know who cruises does it just like that and, I'm fairly certain, for pretty much the same reasons. Thank you, Kiwi.