Approved Log First Testosterone Cycle - 250mgs/week

[bigKO1]

Hi Guys,

Re-starting this log with updated username.

Will be starting this cycle on the 4th March once the cut is done and new baseline calories have been established. Running a 'light' 250mg Test E or C split into 3 x pins per week (80/90/80 M/W/F) Sub Q for 12-14 weeks at maintenance calories. Will have AI on hand to be safe although hoping it will not be required.

Vision is to come out of this cycle with an elevated baseline — chasing aesthetics and clean proportions with improved muscle fullness and a sharper V-taper. I will be pushing hard to retain as much of the new muscle as I can naturally. Once the body has fully recovered post-PCT, I’ll re-assess where I’m at and decide on the next step for my bodybuilding journey.

Baseline bloods are attached for reference. Will be getting them mid-cycle (week 5-6), post-cycle and post-PCT.

Planned PCT is Nolva 40/40/20/20, Clomid or Enclo 25/25, plus MK-677 20-25mg for 6-8 weeks post cycle. Will adjust depending on how the bloods come back.

Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes
• Psyllium Husk
• EHP Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg

Hair Stack:

• Oral Dutasteride 0.5 mg daily (switching from 0.4 mg finasteride, trying to be proactive rather than reactive with any potential shed)
• Topical RU58841 ~50 mg/day
• Oral Minoxidil 1 mg daily
• Topical Minoxidil daily
• Ketoconazole shampoo 2–3× per week
• Microneedling / Derma roller 1× per week

Training:

• 4 x per week upper/lower split
• Moderate/Low volume high intensity - I seem to find this is a sweet spot for me with progress, recovery and consistency.

Will update regularly with progress, weight, pics, food, bloods etc. Appreciate any input or follows as I log keen to make the most of the amount of experience on here.

Keen to see where this ends up and share the journey with the EVO Team!

Cheers,
bigKO1

 

[bss]

Hi Guys,

Re-starting this log with updated username.

Will be starting this cycle on the 4th March once the cut is done and new baseline calories have been established. Running a 'light' 250mg Test E or C split into 3 x pins per week (80/90/80 M/W/F) Sub Q for 12-14 weeks at maintenance calories. Will have AI on hand to be safe although hoping it will not be required.

Vision is to come out of this cycle with an elevated baseline — chasing aesthetics and clean proportions with improved muscle fullness and a sharper V-taper. I will be pushing hard to retain as much of the new muscle as I can naturally. Once the body has fully recovered post-PCT, I’ll re-assess where I’m at and decide on the next step for my bodybuilding journey.

Baseline bloods are attached for reference. Will be getting them mid-cycle (week 5-6), post-cycle and post-PCT.

Planned PCT is Nolva 40/40/20/20, Clomid or Enclo 25/25, plus MK-677 20-25mg for 6-8 weeks post cycle. Will adjust depending on how the bloods come back.

Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes
• Psyllium Husk
• EHP Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg

Hair Stack:

• Oral Dutasteride 0.5 mg daily (switching from 0.4 mg finasteride, trying to be proactive rather than reactive with any potential shed)
• Topical RU58841 ~50 mg/day
• Oral Minoxidil 1 mg daily
• Topical Minoxidil daily
• Ketoconazole shampoo 2–3× per week
• Microneedling / Derma roller 1× per week

Training:

• 4 x per week upper/lower split
• Moderate/Low volume high intensity - I seem to find this is a sweet spot for me with progress, recovery and consistency.

Will update regularly with progress, weight, pics, food, bloods etc. Appreciate any input or follows as I log keen to make the most of the amount of experience on here.

Keen to see where this ends up and share the journey with the EVO Team!

Cheers,
bigKO1

Welcome brother! Solid baseline bloods, that test at 21.4 nmol/L with free T at 422 is a healthy starting point. Good that E2 is sitting clean at 79 too, you'll have a proper reference when you check mid-cycle. Worth keeping an eye on your neutrophils though, 1.6 came back flagged as neutropenia. Could be nothing (viral, stress, timing of the draw) but worth a recheck mid-cycle since AAS can shift WBC counts. IGF-1 at 21 is low end of range too, something to track going forward. 250mg split across 3 pins is a clean approach for a first run. Just watch SubQ with oil, some people get lumps. Shallow IM delts with a 29g slin pin works great if that happens

 

[bigKO1]

@bss thanks mate appreciate the comments !
Yeh with the neutropenia I had bit of man flu haha thinking that's what it is.

IGF-1 has been lowish in all my bloods unfortunately, not sure if there is anything proactively I can do (naturally) to improve this?

Yeh will play it by ear with the pins, will go IM if need be.

 

[bss]

@bss thanks mate appreciate the comments !
Yeh with the neutropenia I had bit of man flu haha thinking that's what it is.

IGF-1 has been lowish in all my bloods unfortunately, not sure if there is anything proactively I can do (naturally) to improve this?

Yeh will play it by ear with the pins, will go IM if need be.

The man flu would explain the neutrophils for sure, nothing to stress about. For the IGF-1, naturally the biggest levers are sleep quality and timing your last meal. Deep uninterrupted sleep is where the GH pulses happen, and eating too close to bed blunts that overnight release since insulin suppresses GH output. Keeping protein high helps too. You've got MK-677 in your PCT plan which will bump IGF-1 nicely when the time comes, but for now worth rechecking it on your mid-cycle bloods to see if the test alone shifts it at all

 

[bigKO1]

The man flu would explain the neutrophils for sure, nothing to stress about. For the IGF-1, naturally the biggest levers are sleep quality and timing your last meal. Deep uninterrupted sleep is where the GH pulses happen, and eating too close to bed blunts that overnight release since insulin suppresses GH output. Keeping protein high helps too. You've got MK-677 in your PCT plan which will bump IGF-1 nicely when the time comes, but for now worth rechecking it on your mid-cycle bloods to see if the test alone shifts it at all

Interesting, one of my biggest focuses the last ~6 months has been improving sleep, currently averaging around 7hrs 50mins of pretty high quality sleep (sleep time not just time in bed) tracked with whoop. That and being consistent with time to bed and time waking up has certainly Improved other aspects of my life if not the IGF-1. Typically it would be at least 2hrs between my last meal and bed but something Ill keep a closer eye on bro.

 

[bss]

Interesting, one of my biggest focuses the last ~6 months has been improving sleep, currently averaging around 7hrs 50mins of pretty high quality sleep (sleep time not just time in bed) tracked with whoop. That and being consistent with time to bed and time waking up has certainly Improved other aspects of my life if not the IGF-1. Typically it would be at least 2hrs between my last meal and bed but something Ill keep a closer eye on bro.

7h50m of actual sleep time is solid mate, that's better than most people on here. With sleep and meal timing already dialed in it could just be your natural baseline sitting on the lower end, or even just a one-off bad draw. IGF-1 can fluctuate depending on timing, stress, how you slept the night before, even hydration. One result doesn't tell the full story. The mid-cycle bloods will give a better picture, if it comes back higher you'll know that first one was just noise

 

[bigKO1]

7h50m of actual sleep time is solid mate, that's better than most people on here. With sleep and meal timing already dialed in it could just be your natural baseline sitting on the lower end, or even just a one-off bad draw. IGF-1 can fluctuate depending on timing, stress, how you slept the night before, even hydration. One result doesn't tell the full story. The mid-cycle bloods will give a better picture, if it comes back higher you'll know that first one was just noise

I'm a short arse maybe it's always been low.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hi Guys,

Re-starting this log with updated username.

Will be starting this cycle on the 4th March once the cut is done and new baseline calories have been established. Running a 'light' 250mg Test E or C split into 3 x pins per week (80/90/80 M/W/F) Sub Q for 12-14 weeks at maintenance calories. Will have AI on hand to be safe although hoping it will not be required.

Vision is to come out of this cycle with an elevated baseline — chasing aesthetics and clean proportions with improved muscle fullness and a sharper V-taper. I will be pushing hard to retain as much of the new muscle as I can naturally. Once the body has fully recovered post-PCT, I’ll re-assess where I’m at and decide on the next step for my bodybuilding journey.

Baseline bloods are attached for reference. Will be getting them mid-cycle (week 5-6), post-cycle and post-PCT.

Planned PCT is Nolva 40/40/20/20, Clomid or Enclo 25/25, plus MK-677 20-25mg for 6-8 weeks post cycle. Will adjust depending on how the bloods come back.

Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes
• Psyllium Husk
• EHP Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg

Hair Stack:

• Oral Dutasteride 0.5 mg daily (switching from 0.4 mg finasteride, trying to be proactive rather than reactive with any potential shed)
• Topical RU58841 ~50 mg/day
• Oral Minoxidil 1 mg daily
• Topical Minoxidil daily
• Ketoconazole shampoo 2–3× per week
• Microneedling / Derma roller 1× per week

Training:

• 4 x per week upper/lower split
• Moderate/Low volume high intensity - I seem to find this is a sweet spot for me with progress, recovery and consistency.

Will update regularly with progress, weight, pics, food, bloods etc. Appreciate any input or follows as I log keen to make the most of the amount of experience on here.

Keen to see where this ends up and share the journey with the EVO Team!

Cheers,
bigKO1

good log restart following @bigKO1

 

[Mobster]

Never seen the need to change my user name

 

[bigKO1]

Never seen the need to change my user name

How did I know Monster would comment on this hahaha

 

[stevesmi]

How did I know Monster would comment on this hahaha

@bigKO1 every forum needs a boomer to give their perspective on things. Ha ha. Having said that man, it's good to see you get this log launched. Make sure you post up some pictures for those who don't remember your previous pics.

 

[2Thick]

Hi Guys,

Re-starting this log with updated username.

Will be starting this cycle on the 4th March once the cut is done and new baseline calories have been established. Running a 'light' 250mg Test E or C split into 3 x pins per week (80/90/80 M/W/F) Sub Q for 12-14 weeks at maintenance calories. Will have AI on hand to be safe although hoping it will not be required.

Vision is to come out of this cycle with an elevated baseline — chasing aesthetics and clean proportions with improved muscle fullness and a sharper V-taper. I will be pushing hard to retain as much of the new muscle as I can naturally. Once the body has fully recovered post-PCT, I’ll re-assess where I’m at and decide on the next step for my bodybuilding journey.

Baseline bloods are attached for reference. Will be getting them mid-cycle (week 5-6), post-cycle and post-PCT.

Planned PCT is Nolva 40/40/20/20, Clomid or Enclo 25/25, plus MK-677 20-25mg for 6-8 weeks post cycle. Will adjust depending on how the bloods come back.

Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes
• Psyllium Husk
• EHP Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg

Hair Stack:

• Oral Dutasteride 0.5 mg daily (switching from 0.4 mg finasteride, trying to be proactive rather than reactive with any potential shed)
• Topical RU58841 ~50 mg/day
• Oral Minoxidil 1 mg daily
• Topical Minoxidil daily
• Ketoconazole shampoo 2–3× per week
• Microneedling / Derma roller 1× per week

Training:

• 4 x per week upper/lower split
• Moderate/Low volume high intensity - I seem to find this is a sweet spot for me with progress, recovery and consistency.

Will update regularly with progress, weight, pics, food, bloods etc. Appreciate any input or follows as I log keen to make the most of the amount of experience on here.

Keen to see where this ends up and share the journey with the EVO Team!

Cheers,
bigKO1

That is a heck of a supplement lineup. What are your feelings on those greens as supplements? I see that not a lot of people use them. Do you feel like they really make a difference for you? @bigKO1

 

[bigKO1]

@bigKO1 every forum needs a boomer to give their perspective on things. Ha ha. Having said that man, it's good to see you get this log launched. Make sure you post up some pictures for those who don't remember your previous pics

Haha yeh says it how it is I like it he's a strong man too.
Base pics are coming!

That is a heck of a supplement lineup. What are your feelings on those greens as supplements? I see that not a lot of people use them. Do you feel like they really make a difference for you? @bigKO1

I like the greens supplements but honestly it's not like a notice a difference on them i take them for light antioxidant support and for the nutrients etc. probably just got into the habit and more a mental thing than anything at this point haha.

 

[2Thick]

I like the greens supplements but honestly it's not like a notice a difference on them i take them for light antioxidant support and for the nutrients etc. probably just got into the habit and more a mental thing than anything at this point haha.

I honestly think they're just something different than water. In reality powdered vegetables are not going to do anything versus the actual real thing.

 

[bigKO1]

I honestly think they're just something different than water. In reality powdered vegetables are not going to do anything versus the actual real thing.

Yeh I'll most likely drop them.

 

[ceo]

Yeh I'll most likely drop them.

@bigKO1 bros if you enjoy drinking them then keep them, but of course real food is best

 

[bigKO1]

@bigKO1 bros if you enjoy drinking them then keep them, but of course real food is best

Yeh just need to dial in the veggie intake

 

[Ulter]

Hi Guys,

Re-starting this log with updated username.

Will be starting this cycle on the 4th March once the cut is done and new baseline calories have been established. Running a 'light' 250mg Test E or C split into 3 x pins per week (80/90/80 M/W/F) Sub Q for 12-14 weeks at maintenance calories. Will have AI on hand to be safe although hoping it will not be required.

Vision is to come out of this cycle with an elevated baseline — chasing aesthetics and clean proportions with improved muscle fullness and a sharper V-taper. I will be pushing hard to retain as much of the new muscle as I can naturally. Once the body has fully recovered post-PCT, I’ll re-assess where I’m at and decide on the next step for my bodybuilding journey.

Baseline bloods are attached for reference. Will be getting them mid-cycle (week 5-6), post-cycle and post-PCT.

Planned PCT is Nolva 40/40/20/20, Clomid or Enclo 25/25, plus MK-677 20-25mg for 6-8 weeks post cycle. Will adjust depending on how the bloods come back.

Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes
• Psyllium Husk
• EHP Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg

Hair Stack:

• Oral Dutasteride 0.5 mg daily (switching from 0.4 mg finasteride, trying to be proactive rather than reactive with any potential shed)
• Topical RU58841 ~50 mg/day
• Oral Minoxidil 1 mg daily
• Topical Minoxidil daily
• Ketoconazole shampoo 2–3× per week
• Microneedling / Derma roller 1× per week

Training:

• 4 x per week upper/lower split
• Moderate/Low volume high intensity - I seem to find this is a sweet spot for me with progress, recovery and consistency.

Will update regularly with progress, weight, pics, food, bloods etc. Appreciate any input or follows as I log keen to make the most of the amount of experience on here.

Keen to see where this ends up and share the journey with the EVO Team!

Cheers,
bigKO1

your number could be off cause you are working through a little virus. Sometimes that can throw that number off. The blood work overall looks pretty good to me. @bigKO1

 

[stevesmi]

Haha yeh says it how it is I like it he's a strong man too.
Base pics are coming!

A+++ on that

 

[ceo]

Yeh just need to dial in the veggie intake

bros, veggies are the best.

 

[bigKO1]

Alright base pictures are here alongside today's Tea and upper A workout.

Losing 11kgs makes you realise you never had muscle and were just chubby but none the less I have something to build on.

The next week gym will be limited due to going away for work so won't be many updates but after that it's all cylinders firing.

Also, any time I try and attempt a front pose it looks uneven as, trying to work on leveling my shoulders out to look more symmetrical in these poses. (Chest insertions are uneven but trying to control what I can).

 

[LevButlerov]

Alright base pictures are here alongside today's Tea and upper A workout.

Losing 11kgs makes you realise you never had muscle and were just chubby but none the less I have something to build on.

The next week gym will be limited due to going away for work so won't be many updates but after that it's all cylinders firing.

Also, any time I try and attempt a front pose it looks uneven as, trying to work on leveling my shoulders out to look more symmetrical in these poses. (Chest insertions are uneven but trying to control what I can).

looking good lean and strong lets keep going

 

[bigKO1]

I'm back and ready to roll.

Touchdown on Test E from @R&Dpharma and the rest from @CladHQ.
Gym session was great today increased calories up and upped the carbs which made the session feel so much better. Will be fine-tuning this to reduce fat and increase carbs over the coming days.

Also slowly increasing sets as my recovery is improving.

4 days till first Pin.

 

[LevButlerov]

I'm back and ready to roll.

Touchdown on Test E from @R&Dpharma and the rest from @CladHQ.
Gym session was great today increased calories up and upped the carbs which made the session feel so much better. Will be fine-tuning this to reduce fat and increase carbs over the coming days.

Also slowly increasing sets as my recovery is improving.

4 days till first Pin.

good training and beautiful TD pics for Team R&D @R&Dpharma @bigKO1 you back hard!

 

[bigKO1]

Ham focused leg day today.

Already noticed improvements in my upper + lower sessions with the food increase. Feeling so ready for this.

Have switched from fin to dut aswell so monitoring that.

 

[LevButlerov]

Ham focused leg day today.

Already noticed improvements in my upper + lower sessions with the food increase. Feeling so ready for this.

Have switched from fin to dut aswell so monitoring that.

185 big leg press you're killing it love the meal pic @bigKO1

@HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @waggat @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67
@Grumpy @LH5515 @Yuri @Doctakay @catdadironman @bss

 

[Grumpy]

Amazing what an increase in food dose sometimes
Strong session

 

[bss]

Alright base pictures are here alongside today's Tea and upper A workout.

Losing 11kgs makes you realise you never had muscle and were just chubby but none the less I have something to build on.

The next week gym will be limited due to going away for work so won't be many updates but after that it's all cylinders firing.

Also, any time I try and attempt a front pose it looks uneven as, trying to work on leveling my shoulders out to look more symmetrical in these poses. (Chest insertions are uneven but trying to control what I can).

Check in looks really good mate

 

[waggat]

Ham focused leg day today.

Already noticed improvements in my upper + lower sessions with the food increase. Feeling so ready for this.

Have switched from fin to dut aswell so monitoring that.

What's the point of doing a 1 rep warmup set at the working weight? Better to do it at around 85% or so and maybe do a few reps instead of 1.

 

[Yeahnah]

Hi Guys,

Re-starting this log with updated username.

Will be starting this cycle on the 4th March once the cut is done and new baseline calories have been established. Running a 'light' 250mg Test E or C split into 3 x pins per week (80/90/80 M/W/F) Sub Q for 12-14 weeks at maintenance calories. Will have AI on hand to be safe although hoping it will not be required.

Vision is to come out of this cycle with an elevated baseline — chasing aesthetics and clean proportions with improved muscle fullness and a sharper V-taper. I will be pushing hard to retain as much of the new muscle as I can naturally. Once the body has fully recovered post-PCT, I’ll re-assess where I’m at and decide on the next step for my bodybuilding journey.

Baseline bloods are attached for reference. Will be getting them mid-cycle (week 5-6), post-cycle and post-PCT.

Planned PCT is Nolva 40/40/20/20, Clomid or Enclo 25/25, plus MK-677 20-25mg for 6-8 weeks post cycle. Will adjust depending on how the bloods come back.

Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes
• Psyllium Husk
• EHP Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg

Hair Stack:

• Oral Dutasteride 0.5 mg daily (switching from 0.4 mg finasteride, trying to be proactive rather than reactive with any potential shed)
• Topical RU58841 ~50 mg/day
• Oral Minoxidil 1 mg daily
• Topical Minoxidil daily
• Ketoconazole shampoo 2–3× per week
• Microneedling / Derma roller 1× per week

Training:

• 4 x per week upper/lower split
• Moderate/Low volume high intensity - I seem to find this is a sweet spot for me with progress, recovery and consistency.

Will update regularly with progress, weight, pics, food, bloods etc. Appreciate any input or follows as I log keen to make the most of the amount of experience on here.

Keen to see where this ends up and share the journey with the EVO Team!

Cheers,
bigKO1

You notice any sides on finasteride / dutasteride?

 

[bigKO1]

What's the point of doing a 1 rep warmup set at the working weight? Better to do it at around 85% or so and maybe do a few reps instead of 1.

It's something I've seen others do so tried it and have enjoyed doing it. To prime the CNS and to get a good feel for what the working weight will be.

You notice any sides on finasteride / dutasteride?

No never, In saying that I have only ran 0.4mg fin before and only 1 week into dutasteride.

 

[bigKO1]

Upper A today - another great session, tracking in the right direction.
2200 cals is holding my weight pretty similar day to day so settling in on that for now and will probably bump it up as the cycle goes along.

1st pin today too , 80mg. Pinning 250mg split 3x per week.

Big winter coming up, so keen for it.

 

[LevButlerov]

Upper A today - another great session, tracking in the right direction.
2200 cals is holding my weight pretty similar day to day so settling in on that for now and will probably bump it up as the cycle goes along.

1st pin today too , 80mg. Pinning 250mg split 3x per week.

Big winter coming up, so keen for it.

60 on incline bench really pumping

 

[bigKO1]

60 on incline bench really pumping

Definitely something I need to work on, growing my upper chest in general.

 

[LevButlerov]

Definitely something I need to work on, growing my upper chest in general.

lets work on it

 

[bigKO1]

Upper B Session

Training (excluding warm ups):
- Smith Machine Bent Over rows: 85kg x 9, 85kg x 6, 80kg x 6
-Reverse close grip Lat Pulldowns: 72.5kg x 5, 72.5kg x 4
-Chest Flies: 16kg x 6, 16kg x 5, 12kg x 6
-Cable lateral raise: 8.75kg x 6, 8.75kg x 5, 7.5kg x 6 (Just switched from dumbell raises, these are humbling lol).
-Tricep Pushdowns: 35kg x 6, 30kg x 5, 30kg x 4
-Cable bicep curl: 25kg x 15, 25kg x 12, 25kg x 11

Need to add more Trap/rear delt work into my upper days.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Notes:
GYM: Another great session in the bank the body is feeling good and mentally I've never wanted to get in the Gym so much before.
Food: Macros at 2,200 still. Having around 130g fast digesting Carbs with my pre and holy shit the workouts are feeling good. Breakfast is low carb, Lunch moderate carb, pre-workout snack and tea are high carb. Trying to put more focus into timing of meals to optimize workouts and recovery rather than just hitting daily macros.
Weight: Gone up 2kg (expected since I've introduced more carbs). Will monitor this and adjust food accordingly.
Sleep/Recovery: Averaged 8hrs 9 mins so far this week (Whoop tracked), although less REM/Deep sleep and more light sleep. Not 100% sure why... will monitor. Have added another set on most exercises with the food uplift resulting in DOMS hanging around slightly longer than usual. I expect this will reduce as the body adapts and the Test saturates.

Questions for the Pro's
I have been thinking about adding Reta at a low dose of ~1mg per week, whats peoples thoughts on this? Reasons I'm thinking about it:
- Help me stay leaner whilst growing
- Improved nutrient partitioning + handle carbs more efficiently
-General support for the body (Liver, Kidneys, BP etc.)
Not looking to chuck things in for the sake of it but I believe it could be a good tool given the goal is recomposition not an all out bulk.

Supps/PED and training style reminder below:

PED's:
Test E - 250mg's per week sub q. Split into 3 x weekly pins.

Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk
• EHP Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg

Training:

• 4 x per week upper/lower split
• Moderate/Low volume high intensity - I seem to find this is a sweet spot for me with progress, recovery and consistency.

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Have a great next lifting session everybody!

 

[LevButlerov]

Upper B Session

Training (excluding warm ups):
- Smith Machine Bent Over rows: 85kg x 9, 85kg x 6, 80kg x 6
-Reverse close grip Lat Pulldowns: 72.5kg x 5, 72.5kg x 4
-Chest Flies: 16kg x 6, 16kg x 5, 12kg x 6
-Cable lateral raise: 8.75kg x 6, 8.75kg x 5, 7.5kg x 6 (Just switched from dumbell raises, these are humbling lol).
-Tricep Pushdowns: 35kg x 6, 30kg x 5, 30kg x 4
-Cable bicep curl: 25kg x 15, 25kg x 12, 25kg x 11

Need to add more Trap/rear delt work into my upper days.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Notes:
GYM: Another great session in the bank the body is feeling good and mentally I've never wanted to get in the Gym so much before.
Food: Macros at 2,200 still. Having around 130g fast digesting Carbs with my pre and holy shit the workouts are feeling good. Breakfast is low carb, Lunch moderate carb, pre-workout snack and tea are high carb. Trying to put more focus into timing of meals to optimize workouts and recovery rather than just hitting daily macros.
Weight: Gone up 2kg (expected since I've introduced more carbs). Will monitor this and adjust food accordingly.
Sleep/Recovery: Averaged 8hrs 9 mins so far this week (Whoop tracked), although less REM/Deep sleep and more light sleep. Not 100% sure why... will monitor. Have added another set on most exercises with the food uplift resulting in DOMS hanging around slightly longer than usual. I expect this will reduce as the body adapts and the Test saturates.

Questions for the Pro's
I have been thinking about adding Reta at a low dose of ~1mg per week, whats peoples thoughts on this? Reasons I'm thinking about it:
- Help me stay leaner whilst growing
- Improved nutrient partitioning + handle carbs more efficiently
-General support for the body (Liver, Kidneys, BP etc.)
Not looking to chuck things in for the sake of it but I believe it could be a good tool given the goal is recomposition not an all out bulk.

Supps/PED and training style reminder below:

PED's:
Test E - 250mg's per week sub q. Split into 3 x weekly pins.

Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk
• EHP Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg

Training:

• 4 x per week upper/lower split
• Moderate/Low volume high intensity - I seem to find this is a sweet spot for me with progress, recovery and consistency.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Have a great next lifting session everybody!

smith rows are big 95s full on pump!

 

[bigKO1]

smith rows are big 95s full on pump!

Love any row excersize!

 

[LevButlerov]

Love any row excersize!

rows for the WIN

 

[stevesmi]

Upper B Session

Training (excluding warm ups):
- Smith Machine Bent Over rows: 85kg x 9, 85kg x 6, 80kg x 6
-Reverse close grip Lat Pulldowns: 72.5kg x 5, 72.5kg x 4
-Chest Flies: 16kg x 6, 16kg x 5, 12kg x 6
-Cable lateral raise: 8.75kg x 6, 8.75kg x 5, 7.5kg x 6 (Just switched from dumbell raises, these are humbling lol).
-Tricep Pushdowns: 35kg x 6, 30kg x 5, 30kg x 4
-Cable bicep curl: 25kg x 15, 25kg x 12, 25kg x 11

Need to add more Trap/rear delt work into my upper days.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Notes:
GYM: Another great session in the bank the body is feeling good and mentally I've never wanted to get in the Gym so much before.
Food: Macros at 2,200 still. Having around 130g fast digesting Carbs with my pre and holy shit the workouts are feeling good. Breakfast is low carb, Lunch moderate carb, pre-workout snack and tea are high carb. Trying to put more focus into timing of meals to optimize workouts and recovery rather than just hitting daily macros.
Weight: Gone up 2kg (expected since I've introduced more carbs). Will monitor this and adjust food accordingly.
Sleep/Recovery: Averaged 8hrs 9 mins so far this week (Whoop tracked), although less REM/Deep sleep and more light sleep. Not 100% sure why... will monitor. Have added another set on most exercises with the food uplift resulting in DOMS hanging around slightly longer than usual. I expect this will reduce as the body adapts and the Test saturates.

Questions for the Pro's
I have been thinking about adding Reta at a low dose of ~1mg per week, whats peoples thoughts on this? Reasons I'm thinking about it:
- Help me stay leaner whilst growing
- Improved nutrient partitioning + handle carbs more efficiently
-General support for the body (Liver, Kidneys, BP etc.)
Not looking to chuck things in for the sake of it but I believe it could be a good tool given the goal is recomposition not an all out bulk.

Supps/PED and training style reminder below:

PED's:
Test E - 250mg's per week sub q. Split into 3 x weekly pins.

Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk
• EHP Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg

Training:

• 4 x per week upper/lower split
• Moderate/Low volume high intensity - I seem to find this is a sweet spot for me with progress, recovery and consistency.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Have a great next lifting session everybody!

@bigKO1 I love this supplement list that she put together and the training looks good as well. You're not going to go wrong.

 

[Mobster]

Questions for the Pro's
I have been thinking about adding Reta at a low dose of ~1mg per week, whats peoples thoughts on this? Reasons I'm thinking about it:
- Help me stay leaner whilst growing
- Improved nutrient partitioning + handle carbs more efficiently
-General support for the body (Liver, Kidneys, BP etc.)
Not looking to chuck things in for the sake of it but I believe it could be a good tool given the goal is recomposition not an all out bulk.

Fixed by a proper diet. Use when you need to not just cos

 

[ROIDDERS]

Upper B Session

Training (excluding warm ups):
- Smith Machine Bent Over rows: 85kg x 9, 85kg x 6, 80kg x 6
-Reverse close grip Lat Pulldowns: 72.5kg x 5, 72.5kg x 4
-Chest Flies: 16kg x 6, 16kg x 5, 12kg x 6
-Cable lateral raise: 8.75kg x 6, 8.75kg x 5, 7.5kg x 6 (Just switched from dumbell raises, these are humbling lol).
-Tricep Pushdowns: 35kg x 6, 30kg x 5, 30kg x 4
-Cable bicep curl: 25kg x 15, 25kg x 12, 25kg x 11

Need to add more Trap/rear delt work into my upper days.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Notes:
GYM: Another great session in the bank the body is feeling good and mentally I've never wanted to get in the Gym so much before.
Food: Macros at 2,200 still. Having around 130g fast digesting Carbs with my pre and holy shit the workouts are feeling good. Breakfast is low carb, Lunch moderate carb, pre-workout snack and tea are high carb. Trying to put more focus into timing of meals to optimize workouts and recovery rather than just hitting daily macros.
Weight: Gone up 2kg (expected since I've introduced more carbs). Will monitor this and adjust food accordingly.
Sleep/Recovery: Averaged 8hrs 9 mins so far this week (Whoop tracked), although less REM/Deep sleep and more light sleep. Not 100% sure why... will monitor. Have added another set on most exercises with the food uplift resulting in DOMS hanging around slightly longer than usual. I expect this will reduce as the body adapts and the Test saturates.

Questions for the Pro's
I have been thinking about adding Reta at a low dose of ~1mg per week, whats peoples thoughts on this? Reasons I'm thinking about it:
- Help me stay leaner whilst growing
- Improved nutrient partitioning + handle carbs more efficiently
-General support for the body (Liver, Kidneys, BP etc.)
Not looking to chuck things in for the sake of it but I believe it could be a good tool given the goal is recomposition not an all out bulk.

Supps/PED and training style reminder below:

PED's:
Test E - 250mg's per week sub q. Split into 3 x weekly pins.

Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk
• EHP Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg

Training:

• 4 x per week upper/lower split
• Moderate/Low volume high intensity - I seem to find this is a sweet spot for me with progress, recovery and consistency.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Have a great next lifting session everybody!

Do you plan on keeping 250 mg a week of testosterone or do you plan on decreasing it or cruising? @bigKO1

 

[ceo]

Upper B Session

Training (excluding warm ups):
- Smith Machine Bent Over rows: 85kg x 9, 85kg x 6, 80kg x 6
-Reverse close grip Lat Pulldowns: 72.5kg x 5, 72.5kg x 4
-Chest Flies: 16kg x 6, 16kg x 5, 12kg x 6
-Cable lateral raise: 8.75kg x 6, 8.75kg x 5, 7.5kg x 6 (Just switched from dumbell raises, these are humbling lol).
-Tricep Pushdowns: 35kg x 6, 30kg x 5, 30kg x 4
-Cable bicep curl: 25kg x 15, 25kg x 12, 25kg x 11

Need to add more Trap/rear delt work into my upper days.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Notes:
GYM: Another great session in the bank the body is feeling good and mentally I've never wanted to get in the Gym so much before.
Food: Macros at 2,200 still. Having around 130g fast digesting Carbs with my pre and holy shit the workouts are feeling good. Breakfast is low carb, Lunch moderate carb, pre-workout snack and tea are high carb. Trying to put more focus into timing of meals to optimize workouts and recovery rather than just hitting daily macros.
Weight: Gone up 2kg (expected since I've introduced more carbs). Will monitor this and adjust food accordingly.
Sleep/Recovery: Averaged 8hrs 9 mins so far this week (Whoop tracked), although less REM/Deep sleep and more light sleep. Not 100% sure why... will monitor. Have added another set on most exercises with the food uplift resulting in DOMS hanging around slightly longer than usual. I expect this will reduce as the body adapts and the Test saturates.

Questions for the Pro's
I have been thinking about adding Reta at a low dose of ~1mg per week, whats peoples thoughts on this? Reasons I'm thinking about it:
- Help me stay leaner whilst growing
- Improved nutrient partitioning + handle carbs more efficiently
-General support for the body (Liver, Kidneys, BP etc.)
Not looking to chuck things in for the sake of it but I believe it could be a good tool given the goal is recomposition not an all out bulk.

Supps/PED and training style reminder below:

PED's:
Test E - 250mg's per week sub q. Split into 3 x weekly pins.

Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk
• EHP Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg

Training:

• 4 x per week upper/lower split
• Moderate/Low volume high intensity - I seem to find this is a sweet spot for me with progress, recovery and consistency.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Have a great next lifting session everybody!

Bros, the supplement list is really nice. @bigKO1 I think a lot of people can copy that and get good results as well.

 

[Ulter]

Upper B Session

Training (excluding warm ups):
- Smith Machine Bent Over rows: 85kg x 9, 85kg x 6, 80kg x 6
-Reverse close grip Lat Pulldowns: 72.5kg x 5, 72.5kg x 4
-Chest Flies: 16kg x 6, 16kg x 5, 12kg x 6
-Cable lateral raise: 8.75kg x 6, 8.75kg x 5, 7.5kg x 6 (Just switched from dumbell raises, these are humbling lol).
-Tricep Pushdowns: 35kg x 6, 30kg x 5, 30kg x 4
-Cable bicep curl: 25kg x 15, 25kg x 12, 25kg x 11

Need to add more Trap/rear delt work into my upper days.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Notes:
GYM: Another great session in the bank the body is feeling good and mentally I've never wanted to get in the Gym so much before.
Food: Macros at 2,200 still. Having around 130g fast digesting Carbs with my pre and holy shit the workouts are feeling good. Breakfast is low carb, Lunch moderate carb, pre-workout snack and tea are high carb. Trying to put more focus into timing of meals to optimize workouts and recovery rather than just hitting daily macros.
Weight: Gone up 2kg (expected since I've introduced more carbs). Will monitor this and adjust food accordingly.
Sleep/Recovery: Averaged 8hrs 9 mins so far this week (Whoop tracked), although less REM/Deep sleep and more light sleep. Not 100% sure why... will monitor. Have added another set on most exercises with the food uplift resulting in DOMS hanging around slightly longer than usual. I expect this will reduce as the body adapts and the Test saturates.

Questions for the Pro's
I have been thinking about adding Reta at a low dose of ~1mg per week, whats peoples thoughts on this? Reasons I'm thinking about it:
- Help me stay leaner whilst growing
- Improved nutrient partitioning + handle carbs more efficiently
-General support for the body (Liver, Kidneys, BP etc.)
Not looking to chuck things in for the sake of it but I believe it could be a good tool given the goal is recomposition not an all out bulk.

Supps/PED and training style reminder below:

PED's:
Test E - 250mg's per week sub q. Split into 3 x weekly pins.

Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk
• EHP Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg

Training:

• 4 x per week upper/lower split
• Moderate/Low volume high intensity - I seem to find this is a sweet spot for me with progress, recovery and consistency.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Have a great next lifting session everybody!

@bigKO1 I'm glad that you are motivated for the gym and you're doing good mentally. That is what we like to see.

 

[2Thick]

Upper B Session

Training (excluding warm ups):
- Smith Machine Bent Over rows: 85kg x 9, 85kg x 6, 80kg x 6
-Reverse close grip Lat Pulldowns: 72.5kg x 5, 72.5kg x 4
-Chest Flies: 16kg x 6, 16kg x 5, 12kg x 6
-Cable lateral raise: 8.75kg x 6, 8.75kg x 5, 7.5kg x 6 (Just switched from dumbell raises, these are humbling lol).
-Tricep Pushdowns: 35kg x 6, 30kg x 5, 30kg x 4
-Cable bicep curl: 25kg x 15, 25kg x 12, 25kg x 11

Need to add more Trap/rear delt work into my upper days.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Notes:
GYM: Another great session in the bank the body is feeling good and mentally I've never wanted to get in the Gym so much before.
Food: Macros at 2,200 still. Having around 130g fast digesting Carbs with my pre and holy shit the workouts are feeling good. Breakfast is low carb, Lunch moderate carb, pre-workout snack and tea are high carb. Trying to put more focus into timing of meals to optimize workouts and recovery rather than just hitting daily macros.
Weight: Gone up 2kg (expected since I've introduced more carbs). Will monitor this and adjust food accordingly.
Sleep/Recovery: Averaged 8hrs 9 mins so far this week (Whoop tracked), although less REM/Deep sleep and more light sleep. Not 100% sure why... will monitor. Have added another set on most exercises with the food uplift resulting in DOMS hanging around slightly longer than usual. I expect this will reduce as the body adapts and the Test saturates.

Questions for the Pro's
I have been thinking about adding Reta at a low dose of ~1mg per week, whats peoples thoughts on this? Reasons I'm thinking about it:
- Help me stay leaner whilst growing
- Improved nutrient partitioning + handle carbs more efficiently
-General support for the body (Liver, Kidneys, BP etc.)
Not looking to chuck things in for the sake of it but I believe it could be a good tool given the goal is recomposition not an all out bulk.

Supps/PED and training style reminder below:

PED's:
Test E - 250mg's per week sub q. Split into 3 x weekly pins.

Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk
• EHP Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg

Training:

• 4 x per week upper/lower split
• Moderate/Low volume high intensity - I seem to find this is a sweet spot for me with progress, recovery and consistency.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Have a great next lifting session everybody!

Four times a week training is definitely good especially when you're doing high intensity. Nothing wrong with that at all. @bigKO1

 

[bigKO1]

Do you plan on keeping 250 mg a week of testosterone or do you plan on decreasing it or cruising? @bigKO1

@ROIDDERS Call me crazy but the goal is to PCT after 12 weeks and see how much of it I can hold onto.

Four times a week training is definitely good especially when you're doing high intensity. Nothing wrong with that at all. @bigKO1

@2Thick Yeh it keeps me itching for the next sesh

@bigKO1 I'm glad that you are motivated for the gym and you're doing good mentally. That is what we like to see

@Ulter Cheers bro, it is good.

Bros, the supplement list is really nice. @bigKO1 I think a lot of people can copy that and get good results as well

@ceo Thanks always looking to add to it as well but not just for the sake of it.

@bigKO1 I love this supplement list that she put together and the training looks good as well. You're not going to go wrong.

@stevesmi Cheers, they definitely help particularly the magnesium ashwaghanda and zinc for sleep.

 

[bigKO1]

Fixed by a proper diet. Use when you need to not just cos

Staying lean whilst growing can be achieved by diet sure. That was only one of the points tho.

 

[stevesmi]

@stevesmi Cheers, they definitely help particularly the magnesium ashwaghanda and zinc for sleep.

i'm gonna try DSIP soon

 

[bigKO1]

i'm gonna try DSIP soon

Would be very keen to hear how that works out for you!

 

[stevesmi]

Would be very keen to hear how that works out for you!

Yep also gonna do TA

 

[bigKO1]

Yep also gonna do TA

You'll be the healthiest man alive.

 

[stevesmi]

You'll be the healthiest man alive.

i hope thymosin alpha is as good as advertised

 

[bigKO1]

i hope thymosin alpha is as good as advertised

Could be a game changer for Immunity

 

[ceo]

@ceo Thanks always looking to add to it as well but not just for the sake of it.

Bros, I agree with that.

 

[ROIDDERS]

@ROIDDERS Call me crazy but the goal is to PCT after 12 weeks and see how much of it I can hold onto.

Looking forward to seeing how much he can hold.

 

[2Thick]

@2Thick Yeh it keeps me itching for the next sesh

That's what we like to see. It sounds a lot of fun.

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Upper B Session

Training (excluding warm ups):
- Smith Machine Bent Over rows: 85kg x 9, 85kg x 6, 80kg x 6
-Reverse close grip Lat Pulldowns: 72.5kg x 5, 72.5kg x 4
-Chest Flies: 16kg x 6, 16kg x 5, 12kg x 6
-Cable lateral raise: 8.75kg x 6, 8.75kg x 5, 7.5kg x 6 (Just switched from dumbell raises, these are humbling lol).
-Tricep Pushdowns: 35kg x 6, 30kg x 5, 30kg x 4
-Cable bicep curl: 25kg x 15, 25kg x 12, 25kg x 11

Need to add more Trap/rear delt work into my upper days.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Notes:
GYM: Another great session in the bank the body is feeling good and mentally I've never wanted to get in the Gym so much before.
Food: Macros at 2,200 still. Having around 130g fast digesting Carbs with my pre and holy shit the workouts are feeling good. Breakfast is low carb, Lunch moderate carb, pre-workout snack and tea are high carb. Trying to put more focus into timing of meals to optimize workouts and recovery rather than just hitting daily macros.
Weight: Gone up 2kg (expected since I've introduced more carbs). Will monitor this and adjust food accordingly.
Sleep/Recovery: Averaged 8hrs 9 mins so far this week (Whoop tracked), although less REM/Deep sleep and more light sleep. Not 100% sure why... will monitor. Have added another set on most exercises with the food uplift resulting in DOMS hanging around slightly longer than usual. I expect this will reduce as the body adapts and the Test saturates.

Questions for the Pro's
I have been thinking about adding Reta at a low dose of ~1mg per week, whats peoples thoughts on this? Reasons I'm thinking about it:
- Help me stay leaner whilst growing
- Improved nutrient partitioning + handle carbs more efficiently
-General support for the body (Liver, Kidneys, BP etc.)
Not looking to chuck things in for the sake of it but I believe it could be a good tool given the goal is recomposition not an all out bulk.

Supps/PED and training style reminder below:

PED's:
Test E - 250mg's per week sub q. Split into 3 x weekly pins.

Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk
• EHP Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg

Training:

• 4 x per week upper/lower split
• Moderate/Low volume high intensity - I seem to find this is a sweet spot for me with progress, recovery and consistency.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Have a great next lifting session everybody!

@bigKO1 Updates look awesome......

 

[bigKO1]

Looking forward to seeing how much he can hold.

Time will tell. Haha

 

[ROIDDERS]

Time will tell. Haha

yes sir that is true!

 

[bigKO1]

Upper A and Lower A sessions (Monday, Tuesday)

Training (excluding warm ups):
Upper A
Incline Bench (Smith Machine): 60kg x 7, 60kg x 5, 50kg x 10
Pull Up : 8, 6, 4
Cable Lat Raise: 8.75kg x 7, 8.75kg x 6, 8.75kg x 4
Skull crusher (Smith Machine): 35kg x 8, 35kg x 7, 35kg x 5
Bicep Cable Curl: 35kg x 9, 35kg x 7, 35kg x 6
Lower A
RDL's: 60kg x 8, 60kg x 7, 60kg x 6
Smith Machine Squat: 90kg x 7, 90kg x 6, 90kg x 6
Very quick leg workout as I had limited time, although I've dropped leg extensions, Ham curls etc. and done some old school compounds and it smoked my legs wayy more than usual. Will be prioritizing these movements more on leg days going forward.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Notes:
GYM: As per last update sessions are feeling good and strength is tracking the right way. Only halfway through week 2 of pinning. Focusing hard on form and making sure the progress I'm making is genuine progressive overload and not just getting more weights/reps through sloppy form.

Food: Macros at 2,200 still. Getting daily protein/fat requirements and loading the rest up with carbs. A typical day of eating looks like this:

• Breakfast: 200g extra lean beef mince
• Lunch: 200g extra lean beef mince + 1 cup rice
• Pre workout: 2 cups rice bubbles, 1 x bannana, 2 tablespoons of Honey (Crazy pump)
• Tea: Varies but it's my biggest meal of the day post workout. Protein source, Carb source and plenty of Greens.
• This including olive oil gets me to 2,200 calories. 235g C, 61g Fat, 185g Protein which feels prefect for me.

Weight: Sitting at around 68.7-69.7 kg. Slowly tracking up.

Sleep/Recovery: Averaging 8+ Hours still (Whoop tracked) - more time in deep and REM stages too. Feel like recovery has picked up a bit the day after the last few sessions.

Other: I am getting slight lumps at the Injection site, usually the day after pinning. This doesn't bother or suprise me and goes away after a day or two.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Supps/PED and training style reminder below:
PED's:
Test E - 250mg's per week sub q. Split into 3 x weekly pins.
Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk
• Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg

Training:

• 4 x per week upper/lower split
• Moderate/Low volume high intensity - I seem to find this is a sweet spot for me with progress, recovery and consistency.

 

[LevButlerov]

Upper A and Lower A sessions (Monday, Tuesday)

Training (excluding warm ups):
Upper A
Incline Bench (Smith Machine): 60kg x 7, 60kg x 5, 50kg x 10
Pull Up : 8, 6, 4
Cable Lat Raise: 8.75kg x 7, 8.75kg x 6, 8.75kg x 4
Skull crusher (Smith Machine): 35kg x 8, 35kg x 7, 35kg x 5
Bicep Cable Curl: 35kg x 9, 35kg x 7, 35kg x 6
Lower A
RDL's: 60kg x 8, 60kg x 7, 60kg x 6
Smith Machine Squat: 90kg x 7, 90kg x 6, 90kg x 6
Very quick leg workout as I had limited time, although I've dropped leg extensions, Ham curls etc. and done some old school compounds and it smoked my legs wayy more than usual. Will be prioritizing these movements more on leg days going forward.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Notes:
GYM: As per last update sessions are feeling good and strength is tracking the right way. Only halfway through week 2 of pinning. Focusing hard on form and making sure the progress I'm making is genuine progressive overload and not just getting more weights/reps through sloppy form.

Food: Macros at 2,200 still. Getting daily protein/fat requirements and loading the rest up with carbs. A typical day of eating looks like this:

• Breakfast: 200g extra lean beef mince
• Lunch: 200g extra lean beef mince + 1 cup rice
• Pre workout: 2 cups rice bubbles, 1 x bannana, 2 tablespoons of Honey (Crazy pump)
• Tea: Varies but it's my biggest meal of the day post workout. Protein source, Carb source and plenty of Greens.
• This including olive oil gets me to 2,200 calories. 235g C, 61g Fat, 185g Protein which feels prefect for me.

Weight: Sitting at around 68.7-69.7 kg. Slowly tracking up.

Sleep/Recovery: Averaging 8+ Hours still (Whoop tracked) - more time in deep and REM stages too. Feel like recovery has picked up a bit the day after the last few sessions.

Other: I am getting slight lumps at the Injection site, usually the day after pinning. This doesn't bother or suprise me and goes away after a day or two.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Supps/PED and training style reminder below:
PED's:
Test E - 250mg's per week sub q. Split into 3 x weekly pins.
Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk
• Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg

Training:

• 4 x per week upper/lower split
• Moderate/Low volume high intensity - I seem to find this is a sweet spot for me with progress, recovery and consistency.

big training day pushing it hard how much psyllium?

 

[bigKO1]

big training day pushing it hard how much psyllium?

Currently 10g ED about 30mins before eating first meal.

 

[LevButlerov]

Currently 10g ED about 30mins before eating first meal.

thats good

 

[bigKO1]

Upper B & A Sessions

Training (excluding warm ups):
Upper B
Chest supported Incline Row: 50kg x 8, x 6, x 4.
Chin Up : 9, 6
Cable Fly Crossover: 15kg x 10, x 8, x6
Cable lateral raise: 10kg x 6, x4 x3
Triceps Pushdown: 50kg x 12 (Session got cut short here unfortunately)
Upper A
Incline Bench (Smith): 60kg x 8, x 5, 55kg x 7
Pull up: 9, 7, 4
Skull Crusher: 40kg x 7, 40kg x 6, 40kg x 5
Cable lateral raise: 8.75kg x 8, x5 x4
Bicep Curl (Cable): 37.5kg x 10, x 9
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Notes:
GYM: Able to do heavier weight and / or more reps session by session which is great. Legs tonight so I'll be smoked tomorrow.

Food: Macros at 2,200 still. Getting daily protein/fat requirements and loading the rest up with carbs. Adding to the diet.

Weight: Sitting at around 70.5kg. Up ~2.5kg from start of cycle, again I believe this is down to the Carb increase and should hover around here until I add more food.

Sleep/Recovery: Averaging over 8hr still (Whoop tracked)

Other: Just started week 3 of pinning, nothing noticeable yet in terms of sides/pump/strength. Feel like I am more vascular tho.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Supps/PED and training style
PED's:
Test E - 250mg's per week sub q. Split into 3 x weekly pins.
Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk 30 min before first meal of the day
• Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg
• Coq10 300mg (new addition)

Training:

• 4 x per week upper/lower split
• Moderate/Low volume high intensity - I seem to find this is a sweet spot for me with progress, recovery and consistency.

 

[LevButlerov]

Upper B & A Sessions

Training (excluding warm ups):
Upper B
Chest supported Incline Row: 50kg x 8, x 6, x 4.
Chin Up : 9, 6
Cable Fly Crossover: 15kg x 10, x 8, x6
Cable lateral raise: 10kg x 6, x4 x3
Triceps Pushdown: 50kg x 12 (Session got cut short here unfortunately)
Upper A
Incline Bench (Smith): 60kg x 8, x 5, 55kg x 7
Pull up: 9, 7, 4
Skull Crusher: 40kg x 7, 40kg x 6, 40kg x 5
Cable lateral raise: 8.75kg x 8, x5 x4
Bicep Curl (Cable): 37.5kg x 10, x 9
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Notes:
GYM: Able to do heavier weight and / or more reps session by session which is great. Legs tonight so I'll be smoked tomorrow.

Food: Macros at 2,200 still. Getting daily protein/fat requirements and loading the rest up with carbs. Adding to the diet.

Weight: Sitting at around 70.5kg. Up ~2.5kg from start of cycle, again I believe this is down to the Carb increase and should hover around here until I add more food.

Sleep/Recovery: Averaging over 8hr still (Whoop tracked)


View attachment 233072View attachment 233073
Other: Just started week 3 of pinning, nothing noticeable yet in terms of sides/pump/strength. Feel like I am more vascular tho.
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Supps/PED and training style
PED's:
Test E - 250mg's per week sub q. Split into 3 x weekly pins.
Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk 30 min before first meal of the day
• Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg
• Coq10 300mg (new addition)

Training:

• 4 x per week upper/lower split
• Moderate/Low volume high intensity - I seem to find this is a sweet spot for me with progress, recovery and consistency.

sleep seems good and i like your supp stack and smith bench pushing hard 60s @bigKO1 how is the food?

@HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @waggat @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67
@Grumpy @LH5515 @Yuri @Doctakay @catdadironman @bss @Shakey

 

[bigKO1]

sleep seems good and i like your supp stack and smith bench pushing hard 60s @bigKO1 how is the food?

Food is good, the below sums up what I'm doing. Sometimes I'll swap one of the minces out for chicken or similar. Also, trying kangaroo a bit this week. 2,200 cals. I'm very easy pleased with my food so I keep it simple. Meat with seasoning is sufficient. Will increase to 2350 cals if weight plateaus for another week.

• Breakfast: 200g extra lean beef mince
• Lunch: 200g extra lean beef mince + 1 cup rice
• Pre workout: 2 cups rice bubbles, 1 x bannana, 2 tablespoons of Honey (Crazy pump)
• Tea: Varies but it's my biggest meal of the day post workout. Protein source, Carb source and plenty of Greens.
• This including olive oil gets me to 2,200 calories. 235g C, 61g Fat, 185g Protein which feels prefect for me.

 

[bss]

Upper B & A Sessions

Training (excluding warm ups):
Upper B
Chest supported Incline Row: 50kg x 8, x 6, x 4.
Chin Up : 9, 6
Cable Fly Crossover: 15kg x 10, x 8, x6
Cable lateral raise: 10kg x 6, x4 x3
Triceps Pushdown: 50kg x 12 (Session got cut short here unfortunately)
Upper A
Incline Bench (Smith): 60kg x 8, x 5, 55kg x 7
Pull up: 9, 7, 4
Skull Crusher: 40kg x 7, 40kg x 6, 40kg x 5
Cable lateral raise: 8.75kg x 8, x5 x4
Bicep Curl (Cable): 37.5kg x 10, x 9
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Notes:
GYM: Able to do heavier weight and / or more reps session by session which is great. Legs tonight so I'll be smoked tomorrow.

Food: Macros at 2,200 still. Getting daily protein/fat requirements and loading the rest up with carbs. Adding to the diet.

Weight: Sitting at around 70.5kg. Up ~2.5kg from start of cycle, again I believe this is down to the Carb increase and should hover around here until I add more food.

Sleep/Recovery: Averaging over 8hr still (Whoop tracked)


View attachment 233072View attachment 233073
Other: Just started week 3 of pinning, nothing noticeable yet in terms of sides/pump/strength. Feel like I am more vascular tho.
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Supps/PED and training style
PED's:
Test E - 250mg's per week sub q. Split into 3 x weekly pins.
Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk 30 min before first meal of the day
• Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg
• Coq10 300mg (new addition)

Training:

• 4 x per week upper/lower split
• Moderate/Low volume high intensity - I seem to find this is a sweet spot for me with progress, recovery and consistency.

Sleep is solid.

 

[bigKO1]

Upper B AND Lower Sessions:

Training:
Lower:

A short lower session. High Intensity.

Upper B:

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Notes:
GYM: Lifts tracking up, loving every session.

Food: Macros at 2,200 still. Getting daily protein/fat requirements and loading the rest up with carbs.

Weight: Sitting at around 70.-71kg. Up ~2.5kg from start of cycle, again I believe this is down to the Carb increase and should hover around here until I add more food.

Sleep/Recovery: Averaging over 8hr still (Whoop tracked)

Other: End of week three pinning. Feel like I am looking fuller in the mornings with no pump, especially delts. Planning my first lot of bloods at end of next week.
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Supps/PED and training style
PED's:
Test E - 250mg's per week sub q. Split into 3 x weekly pins.
Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk 30 min before first meal of the day
• Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg
• Coq10 300mg (new addition)

Training:

• 4 x per week upper/lower split
• Moderate/Low volume high intensity - I seem to find this is a sweet spot for me with progress, recovery and consistency.

 

[bigKO1]

View attachment 234965

Is this real or AI? Can never tell these days.

 

[LevButlerov]

Upper B AND Lower Sessions:

Training:
Lower:
View attachment 234930
A short lower session. High Intensity.

Upper B:
View attachment 234931View attachment 234932


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Notes:
GYM: Lifts tracking up, loving every session.

Food: Macros at 2,200 still. Getting daily protein/fat requirements and loading the rest up with carbs.

Weight: Sitting at around 70.-71kg. Up ~2.5kg from start of cycle, again I believe this is down to the Carb increase and should hover around here until I add more food.

Sleep/Recovery: Averaging over 8hr still (Whoop tracked)

Other: End of week three pinning. Feel like I am looking fuller in the mornings with no pump, especially delts. Planning my first lot of bloods at end of next week.
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Supps/PED and training style
PED's:
Test E - 250mg's per week sub q. Split into 3 x weekly pins.
Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk 30 min before first meal of the day
• Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg
• Coq10 300mg (new addition)

Training:

• 4 x per week upper/lower split
• Moderate/Low volume high intensity - I seem to find this is a sweet spot for me with progress, recovery and consistency.

chin ups big time well done love those in there get more pull ups

 

[bigKO1]

chin ups big time well done love those in there get more pull ups

Yeh Lev, I've just introduced them and love it. Chin ups one one upper day pull ups on the other.

 

[LevButlerov]

Yeh Lev, I've just introduced them and love it. Chin ups one one upper day pull ups on the other.

chin ups for the win EVO family support!

 

[bigKO1]

Upper A Session:

Great session felt good and progressed on every lift,
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Notes:
GYM: Continuing to get stronger every session.

Food: Macros at 2,200 still. Getting daily protein/fat requirements and loading the rest up with carbs.

Weight: Sitting at around 71kg. Up 3kg.

Sleep/Recovery: Solid, no complaints.


Other: Adding Bone broth to meals 1 and 2, they are reheated meal prep meals so the bone broth adds a bit of moisture to it. Also sprinkling Beef organ capsules into 2 x meals a day. Trying to make my meals as nutrient dense as possible.

Question: Whats peoples thoughts on when to get first round of bloods, the plan was end of this week (week 4) to catch any E2 sides early and get on top of them, but so far no noticeable side effects have come up. Still worth getting this week or waiting another week?
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Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk 30 min before first meal of the day
• Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg
• Coq10 300mg (new addition)
• Bone Broth 20mg a day (new addition)
• Beef organ complex capsules 4 x per day sprinkled onto meals (new addition)

 

[LevButlerov]

Upper A Session:
View attachment 237031View attachment 237032
Great session felt good and progressed on every lift,
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Notes:
GYM: Continuing to get stronger every session.

Food: Macros at 2,200 still. Getting daily protein/fat requirements and loading the rest up with carbs.

Weight: Sitting at around 71kg. Up 3kg.

Sleep/Recovery: Solid, no complaints.


Other: Adding Bone broth to meals 1 and 2, they are reheated meal prep meals so the bone broth adds a bit of moisture to it. Also sprinkling Beef organ capsules into 2 x meals a day. Trying to make my meals as nutrient dense as possible.

Question: Whats peoples thoughts on when to get first round of bloods, the plan was end of this week (week 4) to catch any E2 sides early and get on top of them, but so far no noticeable side effects have come up. Still worth getting this week or waiting another week?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk 30 min before first meal of the day
• Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg
• Coq10 300mg (new addition)
• Bone Broth 20mg a day (new addition)
• Beef organ complex capsules 4 x per day sprinkled onto meals (new addition)

back looks good wide
on the bloods I would wait 1 week to feel it @bigKO1
beef organ complex any pics?

@HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @waggat @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67
@Grumpy @LH5515 @Yuri @Doctakay @catdadironman @bss @Shakey @Ohdamn

 

[waggat]

Upper A Session:
View attachment 237031View attachment 237032
Great session felt good and progressed on every lift,
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Notes:
GYM: Continuing to get stronger every session.

Food: Macros at 2,200 still. Getting daily protein/fat requirements and loading the rest up with carbs.

Weight: Sitting at around 71kg. Up 3kg.

Sleep/Recovery: Solid, no complaints.


Other: Adding Bone broth to meals 1 and 2, they are reheated meal prep meals so the bone broth adds a bit of moisture to it. Also sprinkling Beef organ capsules into 2 x meals a day. Trying to make my meals as nutrient dense as possible.

Question: Whats peoples thoughts on when to get first round of bloods, the plan was end of this week (week 4) to catch any E2 sides early and get on top of them, but so far no noticeable side effects have come up. Still worth getting this week or waiting another week?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk 30 min before first meal of the day
• Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg
• Coq10 300mg (new addition)
• Bone Broth 20mg a day (new addition)
• Beef organ complex capsules 4 x per day sprinkled onto meals (new addition)

Back shot looks awesome mate!

Nice looking workout mate. Given the you are doing upper/lower, I think you can probably add another exercise or two. I would usually have 2 chest and 2 x back per upper day then fill out the rest with smaller movements.

 

[Ohdamn]

Upper A Session:
View attachment 237031View attachment 237032
Great session felt good and progressed on every lift,
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Notes:
GYM: Continuing to get stronger every session.

Food: Macros at 2,200 still. Getting daily protein/fat requirements and loading the rest up with carbs.

Weight: Sitting at around 71kg. Up 3kg.

Sleep/Recovery: Solid, no complaints.


Other: Adding Bone broth to meals 1 and 2, they are reheated meal prep meals so the bone broth adds a bit of moisture to it. Also sprinkling Beef organ capsules into 2 x meals a day. Trying to make my meals as nutrient dense as possible.

Question: Whats peoples thoughts on when to get first round of bloods, the plan was end of this week (week 4) to catch any E2 sides early and get on top of them, but so far no noticeable side effects have come up. Still worth getting this week or waiting another week?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk 30 min before first meal of the day
• Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg
• Coq10 300mg (new addition)
• Bone Broth 20mg a day (new addition)
• Beef organ complex capsules 4 x per day sprinkled onto meals (new addition)

Getting stronger weekly brother, setup is smartl

 

[HarleyGuy]

Upper A Session:
View attachment 237031View attachment 237032
Great session felt good and progressed on every lift,
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Notes:
GYM: Continuing to get stronger every session.

Food: Macros at 2,200 still. Getting daily protein/fat requirements and loading the rest up with carbs.

Weight: Sitting at around 71kg. Up 3kg.

Sleep/Recovery: Solid, no complaints.


Other: Adding Bone broth to meals 1 and 2, they are reheated meal prep meals so the bone broth adds a bit of moisture to it. Also sprinkling Beef organ capsules into 2 x meals a day. Trying to make my meals as nutrient dense as possible.

Question: Whats peoples thoughts on when to get first round of bloods, the plan was end of this week (week 4) to catch any E2 sides early and get on top of them, but so far no noticeable side effects have come up. Still worth getting this week or waiting another week?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk 30 min before first meal of the day
• Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg
• Coq10 300mg (new addition)
• Bone Broth 20mg a day (new addition)
• Beef organ complex capsules 4 x per day sprinkled onto meals (new addition)

Great log I just got caught up bro.
Supplement list is impressive and I love that you have the digestive aids firing on all cylinders. Only thing I'd add is extra VitC. Bone broth is a great addition too.

You pics look great bro and training is steady keep this going bro!

I have been thinking about adding Reta at a low dose of ~1mg per week

Did you decide whether you wanted to add this yet or no? I have nothing bad to say about Reta at all.

 

[bigKO1]

on the bloods I would wait 1 week to feel it @bigKO1
beef organ complex any pics?

Ok we wait one more week. Pic below @LevButlerov

.

 

[bigKO1]

Back shot looks awesome mate!

Nice looking workout mate. Given the you are doing upper/lower, I think you can probably add another exercise or two. I would usually have 2 chest and 2 x back per upper day then fill out the rest with smaller movements.

Thankyou Mate,
I have actually been considering something like this where Upper A is more chest focused and Upper B is more back focused (add an extra exercise for chest on Upper A and extra exercise for back on Upper B). So I'll take on your advice and Incorporate this.

 

[bigKO1]

Getting stronger weekly brother, setup is smartl

Thankyou Sir - trying to track in the right direction.

 

[bigKO1]

Great log I just got caught up bro.
Supplement list is impressive and I love that you have the digestive aids firing on all cylinders. Only thing I'd add is extra VitC. Bone broth is a great addition too.

You pics look great bro and training is steady keep this going bro!

Thanks for taking the time to read through my Log @HarleyGuy - appreciate it. What would you recommend the vit C for? Energy and Immunity?

Did you decide whether you wanted to add this yet or no? I have nothing bad to say about Reta at all.

Not yet, my weight has been going up slowly but feel like I'm pretty much as lean as I was when I started the cycle so there may be no real reason to add? Keen to hear if you think differently.
Definitely be something I'll use after PCT and I'm fully recovered to really lean down and hopefully bring my best physique to date for the Aus summer haha.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Not yet, my weight has been going up slowly but feel like I'm pretty much as lean as I was when I started the cycle so there may be no real reason to add? Keen to hear if you think differently.
Definitely be something I'll use after PCT and I'm fully recovered to really lean down and hopefully bring my best physique to date for the Aus summer haha.

This sounds like a plan bro let us know when you decide to start!

Thanks for taking the time to read through my Log @HarleyGuy - appreciate it. What would you recommend the vit C for? Energy and Immunity?

VitC is a powerful antioxidant and can boost collagen synthesis which helps with repair when needed. It can also also help your blood CK markers and reduce DOMS.

 

[bigKO1]

This sounds like a plan bro let us know when you decide to start!

Will be logging it for sure

VitC is a powerful antioxidant and can boost collagen synthesis which helps with repair when needed. It can also also help your blood CK markers and reduce DOMS.

Ok, I'll look into this more and most likely add in to the stack. Cheers mate - the supp stack is never ending haha.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Will be logging it for sure

Ok, I'll look into this more and most likely add in to the stack. Cheers mate - the supp stack is never ending haha.

Supp stack is like "The Never Ending Story" movie LOL

Here's some of mine LOL

 

[bigKO1]

Supp stack is like "The Never Ending Story" movie LOL

Here's some of mine LOL

View attachment 237711

Haha that's substantial

 

[LevButlerov]

Ok we wait one more week. Pic below @LevButlerov

. View attachment 237689

perfect nice organ meat mix

 

[bigKO1]

I'm back.
Upper A Session:

Upper B:

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Notes:
GYM: Lifts going up, I have added rear delt and trap work to my Upper days as well. Have switched out a traditional bicep curl to a hammer curl on one of the upper days too. Will also be adding an additional chest exercise in.

Food: Upped Macros to 2,350. Eating the same foods day in day out (Kangaroo and rice x 2, pre workout carbs, big tea)

Weight: Sitting at around 71.5. Trending upwards still feel pretty much as lean as I did from the end of my cut

Sleep/Recovery: Dipped to 7hrs 20ish average last week. Back up near 8 this week although REM/Deep sleep has taken a hit. Will continue to Monitor.

Other:
- Bloods and picture check in end of this week (week 5), very keen to see how everything's going, haven't had any e2 sides etc. so keeping my fingers crossed. Only comment I would make is skin feels a little bumpier on tri's and shoulders.
- Adding in 30 mins Z2 Cardio 3 x per week. (Had been slacking on the cardio).
- Just taking it week by week at the moment and enjoying the extra recovery/strength.
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Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk 30 min before first meal of the day + Cinnamon
• Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg
• Coq10 300mg
• Bone Broth 20mg a day
• Beef organ complex capsules 6 x per day sprinkled onto meals

 

[LevButlerov]

I'm back.
Upper A Session:
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Upper B:
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View attachment 242026
View attachment 242027

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Notes:
GYM: Lifts going up, I have added rear delt and trap work to my Upper days as well. Have switched out a traditional bicep curl to a hammer curl on one of the upper days too. Will also be adding an additional chest exercise in.

Food: Upped Macros to 2,350. Eating the same foods day in day out (Kangaroo and rice x 2, pre workout carbs, big tea)

Weight: Sitting at around 71.5. Trending upwards still feel pretty much as lean as I did from the end of my cut

Sleep/Recovery: Dipped to 7hrs 20ish average last week. Back up near 8 this week although REM/Deep sleep has taken a hit. Will continue to Monitor.

Other:
- Bloods and picture check in end of this week (week 5), very keen to see how everything's going, haven't had any e2 sides etc. so keeping my fingers crossed. Only comment I would make is skin feels a little bumpier on tri's and shoulders.
- Adding in 30 mins Z2 Cardio 3 x per week. (Had been slacking on the cardio).
- Just taking it week by week at the moment and enjoying the extra recovery/strength.
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Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk 30 min before first meal of the day + Cinnamon
• Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg
• Coq10 300mg
• Bone Broth 20mg a day
• Beef organ complex capsules 6 x per day sprinkled onto meals

65 good incline bench pumping it waiting for bloods you have it when?

 

[bigKO1]

waiting for bloods you have it when?

Getting in 2 days usually come back a couple days after that.

 

[stevesmi]

I'm back.
Upper A Session:
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View attachment 242023
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Upper B:
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View attachment 242027

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Notes:
GYM: Lifts going up, I have added rear delt and trap work to my Upper days as well. Have switched out a traditional bicep curl to a hammer curl on one of the upper days too. Will also be adding an additional chest exercise in.

Food: Upped Macros to 2,350. Eating the same foods day in day out (Kangaroo and rice x 2, pre workout carbs, big tea)

Weight: Sitting at around 71.5. Trending upwards still feel pretty much as lean as I did from the end of my cut

Sleep/Recovery: Dipped to 7hrs 20ish average last week. Back up near 8 this week although REM/Deep sleep has taken a hit. Will continue to Monitor.

Other:
- Bloods and picture check in end of this week (week 5), very keen to see how everything's going, haven't had any e2 sides etc. so keeping my fingers crossed. Only comment I would make is skin feels a little bumpier on tri's and shoulders.
- Adding in 30 mins Z2 Cardio 3 x per week. (Had been slacking on the cardio).
- Just taking it week by week at the moment and enjoying the extra recovery/strength.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk 30 min before first meal of the day + Cinnamon
• Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg
• Coq10 300mg
• Bone Broth 20mg a day
• Beef organ complex capsules 6 x per day sprinkled onto meals

@bigKO1
Great job on this. I especially like the bone broth. I got to get back to consuming that once it starts cooling down in the winter.

 

[2Thick]

I'm back.
Upper A Session:
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Upper B:
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View attachment 242027

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Notes:
GYM: Lifts going up, I have added rear delt and trap work to my Upper days as well. Have switched out a traditional bicep curl to a hammer curl on one of the upper days too. Will also be adding an additional chest exercise in.

Food: Upped Macros to 2,350. Eating the same foods day in day out (Kangaroo and rice x 2, pre workout carbs, big tea)

Weight: Sitting at around 71.5. Trending upwards still feel pretty much as lean as I did from the end of my cut

Sleep/Recovery: Dipped to 7hrs 20ish average last week. Back up near 8 this week although REM/Deep sleep has taken a hit. Will continue to Monitor.

Other:
- Bloods and picture check in end of this week (week 5), very keen to see how everything's going, haven't had any e2 sides etc. so keeping my fingers crossed. Only comment I would make is skin feels a little bumpier on tri's and shoulders.
- Adding in 30 mins Z2 Cardio 3 x per week. (Had been slacking on the cardio).
- Just taking it week by week at the moment and enjoying the extra recovery/strength.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk 30 min before first meal of the day + Cinnamon
• Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg
• Coq10 300mg
• Bone Broth 20mg a day
• Beef organ complex capsules 6 x per day sprinkled onto meals

What an amazing supplement list. I love how you cover bases from A to Z. Very impressive job. @bigKO1

 

[Ulter]

I'm back.
Upper A Session:
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Upper B:
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Notes:
GYM: Lifts going up, I have added rear delt and trap work to my Upper days as well. Have switched out a traditional bicep curl to a hammer curl on one of the upper days too. Will also be adding an additional chest exercise in.

Food: Upped Macros to 2,350. Eating the same foods day in day out (Kangaroo and rice x 2, pre workout carbs, big tea)

Weight: Sitting at around 71.5. Trending upwards still feel pretty much as lean as I did from the end of my cut

Sleep/Recovery: Dipped to 7hrs 20ish average last week. Back up near 8 this week although REM/Deep sleep has taken a hit. Will continue to Monitor.

Other:
- Bloods and picture check in end of this week (week 5), very keen to see how everything's going, haven't had any e2 sides etc. so keeping my fingers crossed. Only comment I would make is skin feels a little bumpier on tri's and shoulders.
- Adding in 30 mins Z2 Cardio 3 x per week. (Had been slacking on the cardio).
- Just taking it week by week at the moment and enjoying the extra recovery/strength.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk 30 min before first meal of the day + Cinnamon
• Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg
• Coq10 300mg
• Bone Broth 20mg a day
• Beef organ complex capsules 6 x per day sprinkled onto meals

Absolutely love to see this. @bigKO1 eight hours of sleep is impressive. I'm lucky to get five or six hours sometimes.

 

[bigKO1]

Great job on this. I especially like the bone broth. I got to get back to consuming that once it starts cooling down in the winter.

Yeh, It's so good with Hot water @stevesmi

What an amazing supplement list. I love how you cover bases from A to Z. Very impressive job.

@2Thick , thanks man.

Absolutely love to see this. @bigKO1 eight hours of sleep is impressive. I'm lucky to get five or six hours sometimes.

@Ulter , I never used to take sleep seriously till the last year or so, now I try and consistently get 7hrs 30+

 

[LevButlerov]

Getting in 2 days usually come back a couple days after that.

perfect

 

[Mobster]

What does the W and F mean?

 

[stevesmi]

Yeh, It's so good with Hot water @stevesmi

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I make my own. Good stuff

 

[ceo]

I'm back.
Upper A Session:
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Upper B:
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Notes:
GYM: Lifts going up, I have added rear delt and trap work to my Upper days as well. Have switched out a traditional bicep curl to a hammer curl on one of the upper days too. Will also be adding an additional chest exercise in.

Food: Upped Macros to 2,350. Eating the same foods day in day out (Kangaroo and rice x 2, pre workout carbs, big tea)

Weight: Sitting at around 71.5. Trending upwards still feel pretty much as lean as I did from the end of my cut

Sleep/Recovery: Dipped to 7hrs 20ish average last week. Back up near 8 this week although REM/Deep sleep has taken a hit. Will continue to Monitor.

Other:
- Bloods and picture check in end of this week (week 5), very keen to see how everything's going, haven't had any e2 sides etc. so keeping my fingers crossed. Only comment I would make is skin feels a little bumpier on tri's and shoulders.
- Adding in 30 mins Z2 Cardio 3 x per week. (Had been slacking on the cardio).
- Just taking it week by week at the moment and enjoying the extra recovery/strength.
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Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk 30 min before first meal of the day + Cinnamon
• Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg
• Coq10 300mg
• Bone Broth 20mg a day
• Beef organ complex capsules 6 x per day sprinkled onto meals

@bigKO1 bros, don't slack on the cardio. It's very important. 30 minutes, three times a week is really good. Try and do some high intensity for 10 or 15 minutes if you don't got time.

 

[ROIDDERS]

I'm back.
Upper A Session:
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Upper B:
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Notes:
GYM: Lifts going up, I have added rear delt and trap work to my Upper days as well. Have switched out a traditional bicep curl to a hammer curl on one of the upper days too. Will also be adding an additional chest exercise in.

Food: Upped Macros to 2,350. Eating the same foods day in day out (Kangaroo and rice x 2, pre workout carbs, big tea)

Weight: Sitting at around 71.5. Trending upwards still feel pretty much as lean as I did from the end of my cut

Sleep/Recovery: Dipped to 7hrs 20ish average last week. Back up near 8 this week although REM/Deep sleep has taken a hit. Will continue to Monitor.

Other:
- Bloods and picture check in end of this week (week 5), very keen to see how everything's going, haven't had any e2 sides etc. so keeping my fingers crossed. Only comment I would make is skin feels a little bumpier on tri's and shoulders.
- Adding in 30 mins Z2 Cardio 3 x per week. (Had been slacking on the cardio).
- Just taking it week by week at the moment and enjoying the extra recovery/strength.
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Supplements:

• Tudca 500 mg
• NAC 1200 mg
• Probiotic
• Digestive enzymes w/ every meal
• Psyllium Husk 30 min before first meal of the day + Cinnamon
• Greens
• Electrolytes
• Creatine 5g
• Omega-3 (EPA + DHA 2.7 g combined)
• Vit D 5000IU
• Zinc 50mg
• Mag Gly 315mg
• Ashwagandha 1200mg
• Coq10 300mg
• Bone Broth 20mg a day
• Beef organ complex capsules 6 x per day sprinkled onto meals

You'll have to give us a rundown sometime of how you like those beef organ complex capsules. Do you really think that works or is it more of a gimmick @bigKO1

 

[Siden]

I'm back.

Hey brother, great update. Looks like we are both slamming the Kangaroo mince. Cheap, lean asf, and i actually like the taste aye.

Keen to get a progress pic tho brother, do you feel you've recomped? Or put on any muscle? Im only on week 2, so don't feel/see anything yet.