Npp vs deca doses

[abominable swoleman]

hey guys im just wondering what doses of npp you guys see results at i just got off 400 mgs a week and saw almost nothing from it where as 400 mgs of deca is a moderate dose. it may just be me but i find the npp to be a weaker compound anabolicly and it may be due to the ester chain everyone says the ester doesent matter but i recently read an atricle saying npp is only half as anabolic as deca, but could this just mean that npp doesent buildup as much in your system since deca has a long half life 400 mg a week is really a much higher blood level. anyways im curious how you guys use npp and what your thoughts are.

 

[stevesmi]

it is important to not make too much of this type of thing

it is like people who say they had way better results on sustanon instead of test cyp.

it could be you simply responded better the first time using it, and more likely the batch you got was much better before

 

[muskate]

Actually - the opposite of what you wrote is true.

Deca and NPP provide the same drug. Nandrolone. The difference is the ester attached to the drug.

NPP actually gives you more nandrolone mg per mg because it has a shorter (and thus lighter) estered attached to it.

Sounds to me like you got NPP from a crappy source. Most guys love the results they get from 100mg of NPP EOD

 

[LYY]

Its essentially the same thing dude,short cycles npp,long cycles deca



.......LYY

 

[abominable swoleman]

Actually - the opposite of what you wrote is true.

Deca and NPP provide the same drug. Nandrolone. The difference is the ester attached to the drug.

NPP actually gives you more nandrolone mg per mg because it has a shorter (and thus lighter) estered attached to it.

Sounds to me like you got NPP from a crappy source. Most guys love the results they get from 100mg of NPP EOD

i know this seems to be true with other compounds but with nandralone the pp ester was around like a 1.1 anabolicly why deca was a 1.8 also my main question is this decanoate has a half life around 3 weeks so the way it builds up 400 mgs of deca is really 400÷2 4x so 400 mga of deca a week is really 750-800 ish where as pp has a half life around 4 days i think so 400 mgs of npp is like 500 mgs. i know with tren and test the short esters seem stronger but could that just be because those drugs are less often used for there anabolic effects. since we all know longer esters are more anabolic while shorter esters have higher peake plasma levels i believe the short esters are less effective but people just mainly cut with them therefor what they lack in anabolic effect doesent matter since theyre being used to hold onto muscle as you diet. im curious what you guys run npp at, im a nandralone fanboy and i may give npp another try i run extremely low test and my deca is normally 5-750 so i was thinking maybe 7-800mg of npp as a sole compound with test at 200mgs just too see if i just didnt hit the "tipping point" where drugs really start to show effects

 

[Mobster]

The ratio and scoring systems are useful up to a point. But if, having studied them and decided X drug is 'the one' you then take it and it doesn't quite work out as somehow a 'wonder drug' then the system is held up as useless. There are, of course, other factors at play. Most systems are lab based and not as useful in the real world. Then you've got prior use of any gear on your part. How hard you train and how good the diet too.

As has been said the gear might not actually be what the label said and regardless of what a blood test says there's your individual response. All in all I think it's over thinking

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Don't overthink it. Deca and NPP will be the same thing. The amount of weight that is ester is not big enough to make a difference. For all real world purposes, 400mg of deca and 400mg of NPP will have the same amount of nandrolone. The difference is negligible.