Looking for some feedback on my possible cutting cycle

[charliecm]

Done a few bulking cycles so looking to mix it up and add a cutting one. Goals around 8% BF with as minimal muscle loss as possible.
Any advice on changing the dosages or switching some stuff out would be appreciated.

Weeks 1 - 12 -Test E at 400mg ( test i have is 200/1ML so was doing this for ease but might be a bit high?)

Weeks 1 - 4 - T bol kick start at 60mg a day

weeks 3- 12 - t3 - 25mg a day first week 50mgs for the rest.

weeks 8- 12 - Anavar to finish up not sure on dose yet possibly 80mg a day to start


picked this with the idea of keeping hair loss to a minimum so winny etc isn't really a option. if theres anything i should tweak id appreciate it

 

[Rawxrawchomp]

Done a few bulking cycles so looking to mix it up and add a cutting one. Goals around 8% BF with as minimal muscle loss as possible.
Any advice on changing the dosages or switching some stuff out would be appreciated.

Weeks 1 - 12 -Test E at 400mg ( test i have is 200/1ML so was doing this for ease but might be a bit high?)

Weeks 1 - 4 - T bol kick start at 60mg a day

weeks 3- 12 - t3 - 25mg a day first week 50mgs for the rest.

weeks 8- 12 - Anavar to finish up not sure on dose yet possibly 80mg a day to start


picked this with the idea of keeping hair loss to a minimum so winny etc isn't really a option. if theres anything i should tweak id appreciate it

Primo is good for cutting. Holds on to muscle while cutting and works well with low calorie diet.


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[E32038]

Your test dose is fine. No issue there. Tbol is a good choice. My only issue is t3 and maybe 2 orals during cycle. Even though you have a 4 week hiatus.

I think as is you will do well bro if diet, rest, and training is on point.

 

[charliecm]

Gonna run a liver supp throughout but agree with you on the var might not be the best idea to run 2. Mainly was gonna include it to harden up at the end but not really necessary. Mind if I ask why your not a fan of the t3? No think it’s neccesary? Was recommended but it by a friend who swears by it and haven’t found anything to alarming in the research I’ve done on it ?

 

[Nismo99]

If you want hard cut muscles, that Tren would be a compound to think about. Perhaps drop the test drop a little bit and add some tren. I have only used Tren Enathate and thus far have avoid all the sides that people report. Tren Ace seems to be more common, but sides are also more common.

But overall, tren is a great compound for cutting, vascularity, and dry muscle hardness.

 

[E32038]

Gonna run a liver supp throughout but agree with you on the var might not be the best idea to run 2. Mainly was gonna include it to harden up at the end but not really necessary. Mind if I ask why your not a fan of the t3? No think it’s neccesary? Was recommended but it by a friend who swears by it and haven’t found anything to alarming in the research I’ve done on it ?

Good to hear you are running a liver support supp. I just don't think T3 is a good idea unless you are fine tuning for a competition. Some swear by it. Most hate it. Your body may respond to it fine, but I'd stay away from it, personally.

 

[charliecm]

Id love to try tren but pretty much every thing I’ve read on it says it’s absolutely murder on the hair line. Don’t wanna tempt fate just yet as I’m still in my 20s but it gives me something to look forward to in the future

 

[charliecm]

If you want hard cut muscles, that Tren would be a compound to think about. Perhaps drop the test drop a little bit and add some tren. I have only used Tren Enathate and thus far have avoid all the sides that people report. Tren Ace seems to be more common, but sides are also more common.

But overall, tren is a great compound for cutting, vascularity, and dry muscle hardness.

On mobile so messed up replying to you but adding on to my other comment. What dose and how long did you run it for ? I get mild hair shedding on test alone so I’m worried what tren would do to me

 

[E32038]

Id love to try tren but pretty much every thing I’ve read on it says it’s absolutely murder on the hair line. Don’t wanna tempt fate just yet as I’m still in my 20s but it gives me something to look forward to in the future

Reality is this: if you are prone to male pattern baldness, then nothing you can do to prevent it. Tren or not. If you aren't prone, chances are you will be fine.

 

[charliecm]

Reality is this: if you are prone to male pattern baldness, then nothing you can do to prevent it. Tren or not. If you aren't prone, chances are you will be fine.

One side of the family are bald as anything , other half has thick hair in their 90s , so it’s probably 50/50

 

[E32038]

One side of the family are bald as anything , other half has thick hair in their 90s , so it’s probably 50/50

Look at your mother's father. If he's good, you are probably ok. however, even though it's primarily dominant on your mother's side, if your father is bald, you may have a chance to go bald as well.

 

[Mobster]

Done a few bulking cycles so looking to mix it up and add a cutting one. Goals around 8% BF with as minimal muscle loss as possible.
Any advice on changing the dosages or switching some stuff out would be appreciated.

Weeks 1 - 12 -Test E at 400mg ( test i have is 200/1ML so was doing this for ease but might be a bit high?)

Weeks 1 - 4 - T bol kick start at 60mg a day

weeks 3- 12 - t3 - 25mg a day first week 50mgs for the rest.

weeks 8- 12 - Anavar to finish up not sure on dose yet possibly 80mg a day to start


picked this with the idea of keeping hair loss to a minimum so winny etc isn't really a option. if theres anything i should tweak id appreciate it

How tight are you on the diet part of the cut?

 

[stevesmi]

Look at your mother's father. If he's good, you are probably ok. however, even though it's primarily dominant on your mother's side, if your father is bald, you may have a chance to go bald as well.

i've heard that too.

 

[E32038]

i've heard that too.

Here is the interesting part. I am in my 40’s. I am the oldest of three boys.

My maternal grandfather had all his hair. My paternal grandfather had all his. My father has none. My middle brother is bald. I am 100% good and the youngest is good.

Weird?

 

[charliecm]

How tight are you on the diet part of the cut?

probably my strongest area, i don't really enjoy food so i don't have any cheat meals while cutting and obsessively log every calorie i eat

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i've heard that too.

mothers father has hair , but my dads bold. dunno if it means anything but i take after my mother much more than my father (eye colour, facial features)

 

[E32038]

probably my strongest area, i don't really enjoy food so i don't have any cheat meals while cutting and obsessively log every calorie i eat

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You don't enjoy food? I've never heard that before. - Muy interesante.

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mothers father has hair , but my dads bold. dunno if it means anything but i take after my mother much more than my father (eye colour, facial features)

How old are you now? If you are over 35, and you have a full head, chances are you are good. If you are 40 and still have it, you are most likely fine.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Here is the interesting part. I am in my 40’s. I am the oldest of three boys.

My maternal grandfather had all his hair. My paternal grandfather had all his. My father has none. My middle brother is bald. I am 100% good and the youngest is good.

Weird?

Did your father's maternal grandfather lose his hair early on?

 

[E32038]

Did your father's maternal grandfather lose his hair early on?

Never knew him. Never saw him. No clue. I'm not close to my family. I been on my own since I was 14 and left for the Marines at 17. I actually just started to talk to them because my wife wanted to make sure my kids had a relationship with them. Otherwise, I could give a fuck.

 

[charliecm]

How old are you now? If you are over 35, and you have a full head, chances are you are good. If you are 40 and still have it, you are most likely fine.

just turned 27 , think my dad started noticeably loosing it around 30

 

[E32038]

just turned 27 , think my dad started noticeably loosing it around 30

If you use a DHT you may have an issue then. Still too early to tell bro.

 

[Mobster]

Hair wise here's the thing. My dad and his dad both went grey at 30 and white at 40. On my mums side the guys have HUGE bald spots. I thought... oof I'm sooo fucked!

But, as the oldest of what was 4 brothers (ones passed away) I've the least grey hair and, thank fu*k, no bald spot. I do, however, keep it shaved real close. My hair was never that great when it was longer.

 

[E32038]

Hair wise here's the thing. My dad and his dad both went grey at 30 and white at 40. On my mums side the guys have HUGE bald spots. I thought... oof I'm sooo fucked!

But, as the oldest of what was 4 brothers (ones passed away) I've the least grey hair and, thank fu*k, no bald spot. I do, however, keep it shaved real close. My hair was never that great when it was longer.

Mobster, I think your hair or lack thereof looks wonderful brother! Besides being scary as shit and not someone I'd want to fuck with, you look like the dude from the Professional. But you also look like a Teddy Bear compared to AWM lol.

 

[Nismo99]

On mobile so messed up replying to you but adding on to my other comment. What dose and how long did you run it for ? I get mild hair shedding on test alone so I’m worried what tren would do to me

~420mg/week. EOD injections. Seems like a lot but remember it’s enthanate. That much in Acetate form would be crazy high.

Been running it for 4 weeks now and I have 3 weeks left to go before I drop it.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Overall it looks pretty good. I am not a fan of T3 though because I don't like messing with the thyroid. What do you have planned for PCT?

 

[muskate]

Overall it looks pretty good. I am not a fan of T3 though because I don't like messing with the thyroid. What do you have planned for PCT?

check out the perfect pct for after your cycle -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html

 

[Avicfirth]

Typically male pattern baldness is hereditary from the mother side. I.e, if your mother’s dad had it, then there’s a high likelihood that her sons will have it. However, if your father had it, shouldn’t really affect you.

 

[E32038]

Typically male pattern baldness is hereditary from the mother side. I.e, if your mother’s dad had it, then there’s a high likelihood that her sons will have it. However, if your father had it, shouldn’t really affect you.

As I said above, maternal side is dominant but there is most certainly a recessive piece to this on the paternal side, including the father.

As an example:

My middle brother - bald.
My father , bald.
Me and younger brother - full head of hair (over 40)
Maternal grandfather - full head of hair
Paternal grandfather - full head of hair

 

[j0hnqd03]

Don’t take Anavar. It’s too weak for men. Do 6 weeks of Winstrol at weeks 6 through 12. I like Anadrol for the first 6 weeks.

In my experience, cutting is more about diet than gear. You need to be in a calorie deficit with your training intensity high to get your body fat down. Period. I personally do it after the cycle, after Test E and its water retention has cleared my system. I personally immediately gain and lose 10-15lbs of water weight from Test.

I say calorie surplus/bulk on cycle and calorie deficit/cut off cycle.

 

[E32038]

Don’t take Anavar. It’s too weak for men. Do 6 weeks of Winstrol at weeks 6 through 12. I like Anadrol for the first 6 weeks.

In my experience, cutting is more about diet than gear. You need to be in a calorie deficit with your training intensity high to get your body fat down. Period. I personally do it after the cycle, after Test E and its water retention has cleared my system. I personally immediately gain and lose 10-15lbs of water weight from Test.

I say calorie surplus/bulk on cycle and calorie deficit/cut off cycle.

I agree with 90% of what you said. I disagree that anavar is too weak for men. it's mild, but so are other compounds. Bottom line is, it works if used correctly and aligned with one's goals. But you are 100% on point about diet. you dno't even need to train to cut down body fat. that is 100% diet. Add in training and proper rest and it accelerates dramatically.

 

[BBBill]

I agree with 90% of what you said. I disagree that anavar is too weak for men. it's mild, but so are other compounds. Bottom line is, it works if used correctly and aligned with one's goals. But you are 100% on point about diet. you dno't even need to train to cut down body fat. that is 100% diet. Add in training and proper rest and it accelerates dramatically.

I personally would also finish up with winstrol instead of Anavar. Anavar you won’t notice much, if anything.