Veteran Log Sustanon Trenomast Deca Dbol Cycle Journal

[HarleyGuy]

Right now I'm running:

500mg NF Sust
200mg NF Trenomast
150mg NF Deca
25mg NF dbol ED

Pin half of the above e3d (Sunday/Wednesday) w/ dbol ED.
5'9" 205lbs 14% BF at 48 years old. Diet is a variation of keto where it's mostly proteins and fats with about 50-100g carbs timed before workouts; workouts about 3x week.

Goals: Keep the look I have just drop more BF and try and stay at same weight (obviously LOL)

Bloods, E2, Prolactin, SHBG, FreeT are all in check (FreeT out of range LOL) with my E2&Prolactin somehow being quite low LOL. Total cholesterol in the higher range which I expected but nothing worrisome.

Two questions:
1. NFTitan was really big on recommending DHB but I'm hesitant to create or run a cycle with it. Anyone have any feedback on DHB?
2. I injured both arms way overdoing it armwrestling and fucked my tendons up. Now, I'm sore AF with pain in my elbows and only lifting half what I used. I'm running Chase Iron's GLOW (TB-500, BPC-157, GHK-CU) at 250mcg twice a day and it helped a shit ton in only 4 weeks (supposed to be a 3-6 month setback). I've stayed on cycle and seem to be maintaining. Would anyone fine tune it based on less weight and times per week in the gym due to the injury?

Thanks to @LevButlerov for teaching me how to post my log and also to get my damn Avatar updated LOL.

Critique away if you will, I have thick skin.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Also (sorry edit button disappeared), my GLOW just ran out should I keep running it or build back up based on the healing it's provided already?

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Right now I'm running:

500mg NF Sust
200mg NF Trenomast
150mg NF Deca
25mg NF dbol ED

Pin half of the above e3d (Sunday/Wednesday) w/ dbol ED.
5'9" 205lbs 14% BF at 48 years old. Diet is a variation of keto where it's mostly proteins and fats with about 50-100g carbs timed before workouts; workouts about 3x week.

Goals: Keep the look I have just drop more BF and try and stay at same weight (obviously LOL)

Bloods, E2, Prolactin, SHBG, FreeT are all in check (FreeT out of range LOL) with my E2&Prolactin somehow being quite low LOL. Total cholesterol in the higher range which I expected but nothing worrisome.

Two questions:
1. NFTitan was really big on recommending DHB but I'm hesitant to create or run a cycle with it. Anyone have any feedback on DHB?
2. I injured both arms way overdoing it armwrestling and fucked my tendons up. Now, I'm sore AF with pain in my elbows and only lifting half what I used. I'm running Chase Iron's GLOW (TB-500, BPC-157, GHK-CU) at 250mcg twice a day and it helped a shit ton in only 4 weeks (supposed to be a 3-6 month setback). I've stayed on cycle and seem to be maintaining. Would anyone fine tune it based on less weight and times per week in the gym due to the injury?

Thanks to @LevButlerov for teaching me how to post my log and also to get my damn Avatar updated LOL.

Critique away if you will, I have thick skin.

Also (sorry edit button disappeared), my GLOW just ran out should I keep running it or build back up based on the healing it's provided already?

@HarleyGuy fully welcome to the EVO family broly I'll help you today.

To start the log and avatar and vip approval, please post your pics with face blurred, so we can see your base.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Here's my base (see pic). 205lbs 5'9" about 15-17% in this pic (according to my renpho lol). I went from 270lbs out of shape down to 190lbs and built up to this since 2022. I have the "ex fat guy" loose skin in places (ie: lower abs, lower back, above obliques around lats when arms are down, etc) that will never go away without surgery but it's not that noticeable if I'm above 200lbs. If I dip under 15% or 195lbs it becomes very obvious. Come the Fall/Winter I'd like to get to 215 and have this same rough BF. I'm not interested in looking beach shredded, just wanna be fit and look surprisingly good for pushing 50 yrs old. I'm on the cycle above along with the GLOW for my injury and I slam in a GLP-1 once a week at 1mg because I often "night binge" (about once a week) and it keeps that at bay most of the time. I also just ran out of GH and was 1-2iu every morning. Waiting on a price list from NF for that. I've cruised on TRT since I was 43 yrs old, done having kids and will never come off TRT so I blast and cruise and have zero fucks given about PCT. Cruise at 300mg/week all year and then blast. Bloods are good, prolactin and e2 are somehow actually low and never needed a SERM or AI yet. I have mild gyno from the old days of prohormones back in the 90's. I have raloxifene on hand but I'm doubtful it will do much to get rid of the gyno that you can probably see and it's been there since I was early 20's.

My biggest issue is the battle of my age/metabolism with diet pushing 50 at 48yrs old. If I increase from slightly above my BMR+ I can put on mass fast so I keep the protein super high and fats are in there with carbs timed around workouts which for me keeps me looking lean with at least the outline of abs. I have a hernia which negates me being able to have the 'line' down the middle of my abs no matter how lean I get but obliques and horizontal lines show up as I go under 200lbs. Right now there's no cardio and my workouts are shit with my two tendon injuries in my elbows. Once in a while I do a 24-hour fast with cardio just to shock my system then have a cheat day two days later. I find it works well with my body and keeps it out of homeostasis. Total calories I keep ranged from 2500 to 3500 and some days lower than even 2500 but not often higher than 3500 unless it's a go nuts day then I have no idea it might be over 5000-6000+. The non 2500-3500 days are at most once a week.

As far as strength it pretty much stays the same all year round I've peaked at deadlifts 415lbs for 4 reps, squat 315lbs for 6 reps and I've always sucked at bench my whole life so 245lbs for 4-6 reps is huge set for me, shoulders have always been strong and can dumbbell press 90's for reps.

I've tried every AAS and oral out there pretty much. Abombs blow me up and winny makes me wince when I open the car door. Var and dbol have been great for me. NF's supertren and trenomast is great as is all their T. I have an Rx for pharma testE so I have used NF's fast esters to make my own Sust in the past too. Highest I've gone is 750mg for T with 400mg on all the others (Tren, Deca, EQ, Primo, NPP, Mast, etc)., not all at once but combo's of them. The 400mg tren I had to ratchet down to 200mg the sleep sides and sweats were ridiculous. I never get tren cough on Ace and have never experienced any sides except the high dose tren and those two orals mentioned.

So there's me in a nutshell. I'm gonna keep going through the summer but in the Fall/Winter I'd like to get more disciplined and am taking on all advice out there. My NF tren arrives Monday and I'm gonna go with the above cycle til mid September then cruise til my T levels are in range for a few weeks then blast again November into the new year. I know it's more of a constant 'blast' with me it may sound but as long as my bloods are in check and CT with contrast of my heart is good I basically don't give a shit until I start seeing issues. Genetically lucky I guess.

So again starting Monday I'm adding in the trenomast and will be on this:
500mg NF Sust
200mg NF Trenomast
150mg NF Deca
25mg NF dbol ED

Pin half of the above e3d (Sunday/Wednesday) w/ dbol ED. The dbol isn't low for fear of any E2 levels going high I just find I don't need much more but have never tried more than 50ED and am open to suggestions. Never done a lot with orals either. On hand I have Tbol, winny, dbol, abombs and for oils I have DHB, Sust, TrenA, TrenE, MastP, MastE, TestE, TestP, EQ. I'm about to run out of Sust so will likely mix a TestP with TestE until another Sust comes in.

Thoughts? I take on all trollers, advice, and bitchers about my current setup. Let's hear it. Been doing this a while so I've heard it all, don't hold back.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Here's a pic of my transformation. Went from 270 down to skinny fat at 190 in 2022 then up to 220 all a-bombed and 3CC blasted out in 2023, down to 193 and noticeably more lean in 2024. Now sitting at about 200-205lbs maintaining.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Also, here's a .pdf with my bloodwork with my name blacked out etc. Let me know if a .pdf works on here. All seems to be relatively in check and when high/low it's just barely out of range so no biggie. Total T is high but in range and Free T is through the roof so obviously my SHBG is in check and nice and low. Despite having two 19-Nor's on board before I ran out of trenomast my prolactin is actually low and my E2 is right on point!

Could this be the mastE/mastP I've been substituting until the trenomast arrives?

 

[LevButlerov]

Right now I'm running:

500mg NF Sust
200mg NF Trenomast
150mg NF Deca
25mg NF dbol ED

Pin half of the above e3d (Sunday/Wednesday) w/ dbol ED.
5'9" 205lbs 14% BF at 48 years old. Diet is a variation of keto where it's mostly proteins and fats with about 50-100g carbs timed before workouts; workouts about 3x week.

Goals: Keep the look I have just drop more BF and try and stay at same weight (obviously LOL)

Bloods, E2, Prolactin, SHBG, FreeT are all in check (FreeT out of range LOL) with my E2&Prolactin somehow being quite low LOL. Total cholesterol in the higher range which I expected but nothing worrisome.

Two questions:
1. NFTitan was really big on recommending DHB but I'm hesitant to create or run a cycle with it. Anyone have any feedback on DHB?
2. I injured both arms way overdoing it armwrestling and fucked my tendons up. Now, I'm sore AF with pain in my elbows and only lifting half what I used. I'm running Chase Iron's GLOW (TB-500, BPC-157, GHK-CU) at 250mcg twice a day and it helped a shit ton in only 4 weeks (supposed to be a 3-6 month setback). I've stayed on cycle and seem to be maintaining. Would anyone fine tune it based on less weight and times per week in the gym due to the injury?

Thanks to @LevButlerov for teaching me how to post my log and also to get my damn Avatar updated LOL.

Critique away if you will, I have thick skin.

Here's my base (see pic). 205lbs 5'9" about 15-17% in this pic (according to my renpho lol). I went from 270lbs out of shape down to 190lbs and built up to this since 2022. I have the "ex fat guy" loose skin in places (ie: lower abs, lower back, above obliques around lats when arms are down, etc) that will never go away without surgery but it's not that noticeable if I'm above 200lbs. If I dip under 15% or 195lbs it becomes very obvious. Come the Fall/Winter I'd like to get to 215 and have this same rough BF. I'm not interested in looking beach shredded, just wanna be fit and look surprisingly good for pushing 50 yrs old. I'm on the cycle above along with the GLOW for my injury and I slam in a GLP-1 once a week at 1mg because I often "night binge" (about once a week) and it keeps that at bay most of the time. I also just ran out of GH and was 1-2iu every morning. Waiting on a price list from NF for that. I've cruised on TRT since I was 43 yrs old, done having kids and will never come off TRT so I blast and cruise and have zero fucks given about PCT. Cruise at 300mg/week all year and then blast. Bloods are good, prolactin and e2 are somehow actually low and never needed a SERM or AI yet. I have mild gyno from the old days of prohormones back in the 90's. I have raloxifene on hand but I'm doubtful it will do much to get rid of the gyno that you can probably see and it's been there since I was early 20's.

My biggest issue is the battle of my age/metabolism with diet pushing 50 at 48yrs old. If I increase from slightly above my BMR+ I can put on mass fast so I keep the protein super high and fats are in there with carbs timed around workouts which for me keeps me looking lean with at least the outline of abs. I have a hernia which negates me being able to have the 'line' down the middle of my abs no matter how lean I get but obliques and horizontal lines show up as I go under 200lbs. Right now there's no cardio and my workouts are shit with my two tendon injuries in my elbows. Once in a while I do a 24-hour fast with cardio just to shock my system then have a cheat day two days later. I find it works well with my body and keeps it out of homeostasis. Total calories I keep ranged from 2500 to 3500 and some days lower than even 2500 but not often higher than 3500 unless it's a go nuts day then I have no idea it might be over 5000-6000+. The non 2500-3500 days are at most once a week.

As far as strength it pretty much stays the same all year round I've peaked at deadlifts 415lbs for 4 reps, squat 315lbs for 6 reps and I've always sucked at bench my whole life so 245lbs for 4-6 reps is huge set for me, shoulders have always been strong and can dumbbell press 90's for reps.

I've tried every AAS and oral out there pretty much. Abombs blow me up and winny makes me wince when I open the car door. Var and dbol have been great for me. NF's supertren and trenomast is great as is all their T. I have an Rx for pharma testE so I have used NF's fast esters to make my own Sust in the past too. Highest I've gone is 750mg for T with 400mg on all the others (Tren, Deca, EQ, Primo, NPP, Mast, etc)., not all at once but combo's of them. The 400mg tren I had to ratchet down to 200mg the sleep sides and sweats were ridiculous. I never get tren cough on Ace and have never experienced any sides except the high dose tren and those two orals mentioned.

So there's me in a nutshell. I'm gonna keep going through the summer but in the Fall/Winter I'd like to get more disciplined and am taking on all advice out there. My NF tren arrives Monday and I'm gonna go with the above cycle til mid September then cruise til my T levels are in range for a few weeks then blast again November into the new year. I know it's more of a constant 'blast' with me it may sound but as long as my bloods are in check and CT with contrast of my heart is good I basically don't give a shit until I start seeing issues. Genetically lucky I guess.

So again starting Monday I'm adding in the trenomast and will be on this:
500mg NF Sust
200mg NF Trenomast
150mg NF Deca
25mg NF dbol ED

Pin half of the above e3d (Sunday/Wednesday) w/ dbol ED. The dbol isn't low for fear of any E2 levels going high I just find I don't need much more but have never tried more than 50ED and am open to suggestions. Never done a lot with orals either. On hand I have Tbol, winny, dbol, abombs and for oils I have DHB, Sust, TrenA, TrenE, MastP, MastE, TestE, TestP, EQ. I'm about to run out of Sust so will likely mix a TestP with TestE until another Sust comes in.

Thoughts? I take on all trollers, advice, and bitchers about my current setup. Let's hear it. Been doing this a while so I've heard it all, don't hold back.

Here's a pic of my transformation. Went from 270 down to skinny fat at 190 in 2022 then up to 220 all a-bombed and 3CC blasted out in 2023, down to 193 and noticeably more lean in 2024. Now sitting at about 200-205lbs maintaining.

Also, here's a .pdf with my bloodwork with my name blacked out etc. Let me know if a .pdf works on here. All seems to be relatively in check and when high/low it's just barely out of range so no biggie. Total T is high but in range and Free T is through the roof so obviously my SHBG is in check and nice and low. Despite having two 19-Nor's on board before I ran out of trenomast my prolactin is actually low and my E2 is right on point!

Could this be the mastE/mastP I've been substituting until the trenomast arrives?

@HarleyGuy happy to see you share this log welcome fully to our EVO family.

I would start by screen shotting the bloods, we can't open pdfs.

on the sub you can sub the masteron for trenmast no problem, you have rest of gear now?

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred (every 1-2 weeks)
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

eBooks
download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

Podcast
are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

thank you and share more

 

[HarleyGuy]

@LevButlerov Yessir here you go... here's the bloods, let me know how it looks to you all.

In response to all your questions see below:

I'm heading back to gym tomorrow to test out my two injuries and see how the arms hold up (almost torn tendons in elbow). Will post how it goes. The GLOW (TB-500, BPC-157, GHK-CU) at 250mcg twice a day helped the injury keep me away from the gym for only 5 weeks instead of 3-6 months.

Diet, Training, Cardio:
Diet today was 1lb of steak and then dinner was 1lb of steak with 3 heads of romaine lettuce. No training today so no carbs needed. No cardio today. Water intake is high.

supplements
Mutant multi vitamin 1 tab morning and 1 night.
NAC 600mg 1 morning and 1 night.
Psyllium Husk 500mg capsules, 2 tabs with each meal.
Milk Thistle 1.5g ED

Peptides
GLP-1 (Semaglutide) usually 1mg/week
HGH 1-2iu every morning **price has gone up significantly so cutting this out for now**
GLOW (TB-500, BPC-157, GHK-CU) at 250mcg twice a day
Melanotan II once a week after a tan

On hand: IGF1-LR3, GLP-2

Will post how the workout goes tomorrow and how strength levels and range of motion works out.

 

[Mobster]

I've DHB here but not tried it yet

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov Yessir here you go... here's the bloods, let me know how it looks to you all.

In response to all your questions see below:

I'm heading back to gym tomorrow to test out my two injuries and see how the arms hold up (almost torn tendons in elbow). Will post how it goes. The GLOW (TB-500, BPC-157, GHK-CU) at 250mcg twice a day helped the injury keep me away from the gym for only 5 weeks instead of 3-6 months.

Diet, Training, Cardio:
Diet today was 1lb of steak and then dinner was 1lb of steak with 3 heads of romaine lettuce. No training today so no carbs needed. No cardio today. Water intake is high.

supplements
Mutant multi vitamin 1 tab morning and 1 night.
NAC 600mg 1 morning and 1 night.
Psyllium Husk 500mg capsules, 2 tabs with each meal.
Milk Thistle 1.5g ED

Peptides
GLP-1 (Semaglutide) usually 1mg/week
HGH 1-2iu every morning **price has gone up significantly so cutting this out for now**
GLOW (TB-500, BPC-157, GHK-CU) at 250mcg twice a day
Melanotan II once a week after a tan

On hand: IGF1-LR3, GLP-2

Will post how the workout goes tomorrow and how strength levels and range of motion works out.

These bloods are actually good @HarleyGuy

Diet today was 1lb of steak and then dinner was 1lb of steak with 3 heads of romaine lettuce. No training today so no carbs needed. No cardio today. Water intake is high.

Throw up some steak pics next time.

supplements
Mutant multi vitamin 1 tab morning and 1 night.
NAC 600mg 1 morning and 1 night.
Psyllium Husk 500mg capsules, 2 tabs with each meal.
Milk Thistle 1.5g ED

Adding probiotic soon?

 

[HarleyGuy]

@LevButlerov Thanks I try to keep my bloods in good shape and I'm lucky I guess it seems to take a lot (of tren LOL) to fuck them up.

What probiotic do you recommend I will add it in ASAP.

I also take:
20g collagen protein + 20g creatine monohydrate ED before bed.

 

[stevesmi]

Right now I'm running:

500mg NF Sust
200mg NF Trenomast
150mg NF Deca
25mg NF dbol ED

Pin half of the above e3d (Sunday/Wednesday) w/ dbol ED.
5'9" 205lbs 14% BF at 48 years old. Diet is a variation of keto where it's mostly proteins and fats with about 50-100g carbs timed before workouts; workouts about 3x week.

Goals: Keep the look I have just drop more BF and try and stay at same weight (obviously LOL)

Bloods, E2, Prolactin, SHBG, FreeT are all in check (FreeT out of range LOL) with my E2&Prolactin somehow being quite low LOL. Total cholesterol in the higher range which I expected but nothing worrisome.

Two questions:
1. NFTitan was really big on recommending DHB but I'm hesitant to create or run a cycle with it. Anyone have any feedback on DHB?
2. I injured both arms way overdoing it armwrestling and fucked my tendons up. Now, I'm sore AF with pain in my elbows and only lifting half what I used. I'm running Chase Iron's GLOW (TB-500, BPC-157, GHK-CU) at 250mcg twice a day and it helped a shit ton in only 4 weeks (supposed to be a 3-6 month setback). I've stayed on cycle and seem to be maintaining. Would anyone fine tune it based on less weight and times per week in the gym due to the injury?

Thanks to @LevButlerov for teaching me how to post my log and also to get my damn Avatar updated LOL.

Critique away if you will, I have thick skin.

@HarleyGuy wow that is a very strong stack. trenomast is 100mgs each of tren and mast? that is once a week?

 

[BodyMonster34]

Right now I'm running:

500mg NF Sust
200mg NF Trenomast
150mg NF Deca
25mg NF dbol ED

Pin half of the above e3d (Sunday/Wednesday) w/ dbol ED.
5'9" 205lbs 14% BF at 48 years old. Diet is a variation of keto where it's mostly proteins and fats with about 50-100g carbs timed before workouts; workouts about 3x week.

Goals: Keep the look I have just drop more BF and try and stay at same weight (obviously LOL)

Bloods, E2, Prolactin, SHBG, FreeT are all in check (FreeT out of range LOL) with my E2&Prolactin somehow being quite low LOL. Total cholesterol in the higher range which I expected but nothing worrisome.

Two questions:
1. NFTitan was really big on recommending DHB but I'm hesitant to create or run a cycle with it. Anyone have any feedback on DHB?
2. I injured both arms way overdoing it armwrestling and fucked my tendons up. Now, I'm sore AF with pain in my elbows and only lifting half what I used. I'm running Chase Iron's GLOW (TB-500, BPC-157, GHK-CU) at 250mcg twice a day and it helped a shit ton in only 4 weeks (supposed to be a 3-6 month setback). I've stayed on cycle and seem to be maintaining. Would anyone fine tune it based on less weight and times per week in the gym due to the injury?

Thanks to @LevButlerov for teaching me how to post my log and also to get my damn Avatar updated LOL.

Critique away if you will, I have thick skin.

@HarleyGuy bro all in with deca, dbol, tren and sust. hell yeah. plus adding masteron. that a real man stack increase tren to 500mgs

 

[2Thick]

Right now I'm running:

500mg NF Sust
200mg NF Trenomast
150mg NF Deca
25mg NF dbol ED

Pin half of the above e3d (Sunday/Wednesday) w/ dbol ED.
5'9" 205lbs 14% BF at 48 years old. Diet is a variation of keto where it's mostly proteins and fats with about 50-100g carbs timed before workouts; workouts about 3x week.

Goals: Keep the look I have just drop more BF and try and stay at same weight (obviously LOL)

Bloods, E2, Prolactin, SHBG, FreeT are all in check (FreeT out of range LOL) with my E2&Prolactin somehow being quite low LOL. Total cholesterol in the higher range which I expected but nothing worrisome.

Two questions:
1. NFTitan was really big on recommending DHB but I'm hesitant to create or run a cycle with it. Anyone have any feedback on DHB?
2. I injured both arms way overdoing it armwrestling and fucked my tendons up. Now, I'm sore AF with pain in my elbows and only lifting half what I used. I'm running Chase Iron's GLOW (TB-500, BPC-157, GHK-CU) at 250mcg twice a day and it helped a shit ton in only 4 weeks (supposed to be a 3-6 month setback). I've stayed on cycle and seem to be maintaining. Would anyone fine tune it based on less weight and times per week in the gym due to the injury?

Thanks to @LevButlerov for teaching me how to post my log and also to get my damn Avatar updated LOL.

Critique away if you will, I have thick skin.

i wouldn't bother with DHB to be honest. its not that popular for a reason. there are better options @HarleyGuy

 

[HarleyGuy]

@stevesmi Ya trenomast is 200mg/ml with half trenA and half mastP.
@BodyMonster34 That stack is weekly, I pin half of it e3d. You think that's very strong? It's weird I've gone much higher and my bloods on this current stack are fine. The tren above 400mg kill my sleep and the sweats at night have me switching blankets and pillows twice a night! LOL

 

[ceo]

Right now I'm running:

500mg NF Sust
200mg NF Trenomast
150mg NF Deca
25mg NF dbol ED

Pin half of the above e3d (Sunday/Wednesday) w/ dbol ED.
5'9" 205lbs 14% BF at 48 years old. Diet is a variation of keto where it's mostly proteins and fats with about 50-100g carbs timed before workouts; workouts about 3x week.

Goals: Keep the look I have just drop more BF and try and stay at same weight (obviously LOL)

Bloods, E2, Prolactin, SHBG, FreeT are all in check (FreeT out of range LOL) with my E2&Prolactin somehow being quite low LOL. Total cholesterol in the higher range which I expected but nothing worrisome.

Two questions:
1. NFTitan was really big on recommending DHB but I'm hesitant to create or run a cycle with it. Anyone have any feedback on DHB?
2. I injured both arms way overdoing it armwrestling and fucked my tendons up. Now, I'm sore AF with pain in my elbows and only lifting half what I used. I'm running Chase Iron's GLOW (TB-500, BPC-157, GHK-CU) at 250mcg twice a day and it helped a shit ton in only 4 weeks (supposed to be a 3-6 month setback). I've stayed on cycle and seem to be maintaining. Would anyone fine tune it based on less weight and times per week in the gym due to the injury?

Thanks to @LevButlerov for teaching me how to post my log and also to get my damn Avatar updated LOL.

Critique away if you will, I have thick skin.

bros arm wrestling nasty. used to know a guy on EF had his arm twisted up bigtime. gotta be careful with that shit man gonna take a long time to recover. need rest @HarleyGuy

 

[Ulter]

Right now I'm running:

500mg NF Sust
200mg NF Trenomast
150mg NF Deca
25mg NF dbol ED

Pin half of the above e3d (Sunday/Wednesday) w/ dbol ED.
5'9" 205lbs 14% BF at 48 years old. Diet is a variation of keto where it's mostly proteins and fats with about 50-100g carbs timed before workouts; workouts about 3x week.

Goals: Keep the look I have just drop more BF and try and stay at same weight (obviously LOL)

Bloods, E2, Prolactin, SHBG, FreeT are all in check (FreeT out of range LOL) with my E2&Prolactin somehow being quite low LOL. Total cholesterol in the higher range which I expected but nothing worrisome.

Two questions:
1. NFTitan was really big on recommending DHB but I'm hesitant to create or run a cycle with it. Anyone have any feedback on DHB?
2. I injured both arms way overdoing it armwrestling and fucked my tendons up. Now, I'm sore AF with pain in my elbows and only lifting half what I used. I'm running Chase Iron's GLOW (TB-500, BPC-157, GHK-CU) at 250mcg twice a day and it helped a shit ton in only 4 weeks (supposed to be a 3-6 month setback). I've stayed on cycle and seem to be maintaining. Would anyone fine tune it based on less weight and times per week in the gym due to the injury?

Thanks to @LevButlerov for teaching me how to post my log and also to get my damn Avatar updated LOL.

Critique away if you will, I have thick skin.

@HarleyGuy tb, bpc and ghk are good options. you need to stay on them atleast 3-4 months to get the most benefits. hopefully you feel better soon

 

[HarleyGuy]

@Ulter Thank you I've been looking for some advice on these particular peptides as there's lots of scientific data but not a lot of long term bro science. I'll order more right now and get it going again. You can post here or DM me if you want but do you mind sharing your experience with dosaging and the end benefits of it? It for sure sped up my tendon healing in only 4 weeks so far.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Right now I'm running:

500mg NF Sust
200mg NF Trenomast
150mg NF Deca
25mg NF dbol ED

Pin half of the above e3d (Sunday/Wednesday) w/ dbol ED.
5'9" 205lbs 14% BF at 48 years old. Diet is a variation of keto where it's mostly proteins and fats with about 50-100g carbs timed before workouts; workouts about 3x week.

Goals: Keep the look I have just drop more BF and try and stay at same weight (obviously LOL)

Bloods, E2, Prolactin, SHBG, FreeT are all in check (FreeT out of range LOL) with my E2&Prolactin somehow being quite low LOL. Total cholesterol in the higher range which I expected but nothing worrisome.

Two questions:
1. NFTitan was really big on recommending DHB but I'm hesitant to create or run a cycle with it. Anyone have any feedback on DHB?
2. I injured both arms way overdoing it armwrestling and fucked my tendons up. Now, I'm sore AF with pain in my elbows and only lifting half what I used. I'm running Chase Iron's GLOW (TB-500, BPC-157, GHK-CU) at 250mcg twice a day and it helped a shit ton in only 4 weeks (supposed to be a 3-6 month setback). I've stayed on cycle and seem to be maintaining. Would anyone fine tune it based on less weight and times per week in the gym due to the injury?

Thanks to @LevButlerov for teaching me how to post my log and also to get my damn Avatar updated LOL.

Critique away if you will, I have thick skin.

@HarleyGuy i'm liking the steroid cycle to be honest. it is looking really good. i want to see your next cycle as well

 

[HarleyGuy]

bros arm wrestling nasty. used to know a guy on EF had his arm twisted up bigtime. gotta be careful with that shit man gonna take a long time to recover. need rest @HarleyGuy

@ceo Ha! I remember those old days over on EF. Ya man my advice to any bodybuilder is never EVER just randomly go hard armwrestling. Those are tendons we are not used to using at those angles whatsoever and it leads to almost enough pain that you can even close the trunk of your car let alone do any compound lifts for at least a couple months.

I'm not stopping my cycle though screw it and I'm back in the gym this week after pretty much 5 weeks off.

 

[LevButlerov]

@Ulter Thank you I've been looking for some advice on these particular peptides as there's lots of scientific data but not a lot of long term bro science. I'll order more right now and get it going again. You can post here or DM me if you want but do you mind sharing your experience with dosaging and the end benefits of it? It for sure sped up my tendon healing in only 4 weeks so far.

Post your questions here we'll help in open about peptides @HarleyGuy

@ceo Ha! I remember those old days over on EF. Ya man my advice to any bodybuilder is never EVER just randomly go hard armwrestling. Those are tendons we are not used to using at those angles whatsoever and it leads to almost enough pain that you can even close the trunk of your car let alone do any compound lifts for at least a couple months.

I'm not stopping my cycle though screw it and I'm back in the gym this week after pretty much 5 weeks off.

EF is the sister site to EVO we all love each other

 

[HarleyGuy]

@Ulter @LevButlerov I just ordered 3 more GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) vials. With me having these tendon injuries it took 5 weeks of rest and 2.5mg/500mcg/500mcgday (1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice a day) with 5lb dumbbells working up to 20's just sitting on the couch doing that 'arm wrestling' motion to restrengthen the tendons. Moved on eventually to 20's doing hammer curls. Then, it took 3 weeks but my lower delt insertion was then the problem and was giving me shit all day so I did side lateral and front raises with 5's working up to 15's. The daily ongoing ache is gone now and when I do every day stuff like lifting household shit and moving anything relatively heavy I'm fine. If I plant my elbow on a hard surface it's sore but I don't care. I couldn't make it to the gym this morning but tomorrow is ground zero for attempting 50% or more of my push/pull weights and will go from there.

I have enough for that dose above for 60 days, or have you ever went higher not just for everyday gym wear and tear but specifically for injuries? Typical question asked which I usually know the answer to but in this case with it being relatively new in terms of anecdotes would you say more is better when you're working through an injury?

I've kept everything the same as the cycle first posted and just added in the trenomast that arrived today (delt shot). I was thinking of upping the deca for joints but it's out of stock atm.

Anyway any feedback on that cocktail of peptides would be a huge help. Fun fact: the GLOW tri-peptide turns royal blue in the vial when reconstituted. Makes me feel like I'm taking that blue shit buzzing around tik tok now. LOL.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Diet today was a no gym diet:
I eat twice a day and sometimes do OMAD. My nickname in my 20's used to be "incredible bulk" (a horribly not funny pun) because I can bulk up so easily so the OMAD and 2MAD works for me along with the GLP-1 at 1mg/week. Now at 48 yrs old it kinda is funny I guess.

Morning: 2 scoops Costco chocolate protein isolate powder (60g P), 20g collagen protein (18g P), 20g creatine, 2 ready-made protein shakes (60g P), 2 tbsp macademia nut oil, 1 cup of blueberries, cinnamon, vanilla extract.
Late afternoon (about 4pm): 1.5lb of flank beef on BBQ

I very joyfully used a 1" 22g 3CC to plunge 1CC of 200mg of trenomast in my delt as well with dinner.

I fast until the morning now so I'm usually on a 2MAD 8on/16off fast diet which works for my body.
Will post pics of the steaks soon too.

Cardio today was minimal:
Cardio was 30 mins of biking up and downhill with my step-daughter, nothing really in my target heart rate. Can't wait to get back at it!

Today's pic:
At 195lbs this morning, a little less than I expected. (5'9" around 15% BF according to Renpho still). I've attached a pic that I literally just took and what I notice is deflation and that due to my injury and 5 weeks off the gym my arms (to me) are noticeably smaller and overall my body looks less 'dense' as expected with such a layoff. Never had good traps but always had good shoulders and those too look unremarkable already. My back has always been my strong point so it's saving me in terms of feeling confident in a tshirt. So this is basically my base I'm starting from.

Ex-Fatguy skin in pic:
In my original post I posted my 8-month transformation (lost 70-80 lbs using keto and a personal trainer to keep me accountable). Now, if you ever wanna see what happens when you drop that much body fat take a look at my lower ab area. That skin is there forever and needs surgery for my lower abs to flatten out and be seen. I got it priced at $8000 but it's a pipe dream for now. I have no shame or shyness and say it as it is so I don't mind showing that. I can't imagine what people who lose 500+ lbs look like under their clothes but good on them!

Will keep you posted on intensity and lifting ability tomorrow!

 

[LevButlerov]

@Ulter @LevButlerov I just ordered 3 more GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) vials. With me having these tendon injuries it took 5 weeks of rest and 2.5mg/500mcg/500mcgday (1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice a day) with 5lb dumbbells working up to 20's just sitting on the couch doing that 'arm wrestling' motion to restrengthen the tendons. Moved on eventually to 20's doing hammer curls. Then, it took 3 weeks but my lower delt insertion was then the problem and was giving me shit all day so I did side lateral and front raises with 5's working up to 15's. The daily ongoing ache is gone now and when I do every day stuff like lifting household shit and moving anything relatively heavy I'm fine. If I plant my elbow on a hard surface it's sore but I don't care. I couldn't make it to the gym this morning but tomorrow is ground zero for attempting 50% or more of my push/pull weights and will go from there.

I have enough for that dose above for 60 days, or have you ever went higher not just for everyday gym wear and tear but specifically for injuries? Typical question asked which I usually know the answer to but in this case with it being relatively new in terms of anecdotes would you say more is better when you're working through an injury?

I've kept everything the same as the cycle first posted and just added in the trenomast that arrived today (delt shot). I was thinking of upping the deca for joints but it's out of stock atm.

Anyway any feedback on that cocktail of peptides would be a huge help. Fun fact: the GLOW tri-peptide turns royal blue in the vial when reconstituted. Makes me feel like I'm taking that blue shit buzzing around tik tok now. LOL.

I’ve had clients run that same GLOW combo and your dosing lines up with what’s worked for them during injury phases. For more stubborn tendon issues, some bumped the BPC and TB500 up to 750mcg daily each for the first couple weeks, then tapered back down. GHK at 2.5mg twice a day seems to be the sweet spot without messing with sleep or blood pressure. That rehab approach you followed with light curls and raises mirrors what I recommend during soft tissue recovery. If deca’s out of stock, I’d just stay consistent with the peptides and see how you respond pushing 50% loads. And yeah that royal blue color throws everyone off the first time they reconstitute it, looks like some sci-fi injectable.

Diet today was a no gym diet:
I eat twice a day and sometimes do OMAD. My nickname in my 20's used to be "incredible bulk" (a horribly not funny pun) because I can bulk up so easily so the OMAD and 2MAD works for me along with the GLP-1 at 1mg/week. Now at 48 yrs old it kinda is funny I guess.

Morning: 2 scoops Costco chocolate protein isolate powder (60g P), 20g collagen protein (18g P), 20g creatine, 2 ready-made protein shakes (60g P), 2 tbsp macademia nut oil, 1 cup of blueberries, cinnamon, vanilla extract.
Late afternoon (about 4pm): 1.5lb of flank beef on BBQ

I very joyfully used a 1" 22g 3CC to plunge 1CC of 200mg of trenomast in my delt as well with dinner.

I fast until the morning now so I'm usually on a 2MAD 8on/16off fast diet which works for my body.
Will post pics of the steaks soon too.

Cardio today was minimal:
Cardio was 30 mins of biking up and downhill with my step-daughter, nothing really in my target heart rate. Can't wait to get back at it!

Today's pic:
At 195lbs this morning, a little less than I expected. (5'9" around 15% BF according to Renpho still). I've attached a pic that I literally just took and what I notice is deflation and that due to my injury and 5 weeks off the gym my arms (to me) are noticeably smaller and overall my body looks less 'dense' as expected with such a layoff. Never had good traps but always had good shoulders and those too look unremarkable already. My back has always been my strong point so it's saving me in terms of feeling confident in a tshirt. So this is basically my base I'm starting from.

Ex-Fatguy skin in pic:
In my original post I posted my 8-month transformation (lost 70-80 lbs using keto and a personal trainer to keep me accountable). Now, if you ever wanna see what happens when you drop that much body fat take a look at my lower ab area. That skin is there forever and needs surgery for my lower abs to flatten out and be seen. I got it priced at $8000 but it's a pipe dream for now. I have no shame or shyness and say it as it is so I don't mind showing that. I can't imagine what people who lose 500+ lbs look like under their clothes but good on them!

Will keep you posted on intensity and lifting ability tomorrow!

I have clients in your exact situation who thrive on 2MAD or OMAD especially when paired with low-impact days or recovery phases. That high-protein morning setup you listed is solid and keeps amino acid levels steady even during fasting. A few of them also run GLP-1s weekly to manage appetite and maintain leanness as they age, and it definitely helps curb rebound hunger. Your flank steak dinner sounds perfect for a rest day, heavy on iron and creatine naturally.

That trenomast pin sounds like it went smooth, and even though your arms feel smaller, that’s totally normal after a gym break. I always tell guys progress pics during layoffs are just data points not judgment days, and with your back still holding shape you’ve got a strong foundation for the comeback.
You're on @Fusion Canada Fusion gear right? @HarleyGuy

 

[ceo]

@ceo Ha! I remember those old days over on EF. Ya man my advice to any bodybuilder is never EVER just randomly go hard armwrestling. Those are tendons we are not used to using at those angles whatsoever and it leads to almost enough pain that you can even close the trunk of your car let alone do any compound lifts for at least a couple months.

I'm not stopping my cycle though screw it and I'm back in the gym this week after pretty much 5 weeks off.

bros yeah i can't have an injury like that since i'm a plumber

 

[HarleyGuy]

I’ve had clients run that same GLOW combo and your dosing lines up with what’s worked for them during injury phases. For more stubborn tendon issues, some bumped the BPC and TB500 up to 750mcg daily each for the first couple weeks, then tapered back down. GHK at 2.5mg twice a day seems to be the sweet spot without messing with sleep or blood pressure. That rehab approach you followed with light curls and raises mirrors what I recommend during soft tissue recovery. If deca’s out of stock, I’d just stay consistent with the peptides and see how you respond pushing 50% loads. And yeah that royal blue color throws everyone off the first time they reconstitute it, looks like some sci-fi injectable.


I have clients in your exact situation who thrive on 2MAD or OMAD especially when paired with low-impact days or recovery phases. That high-protein morning setup you listed is solid and keeps amino acid levels steady even during fasting. A few of them also run GLP-1s weekly to manage appetite and maintain leanness as they age, and it definitely helps curb rebound hunger. Your flank steak dinner sounds perfect for a rest day, heavy on iron and creatine naturally.

That trenomast pin sounds like it went smooth, and even though your arms feel smaller, that’s totally normal after a gym break. I always tell guys progress pics during layoffs are just data points not judgment days, and with your back still holding shape you’ve got a strong foundation for the comeback.
You're on @Fusion Canada Fusion gear right? @HarleyGuy

Yessir! Been using solely Fusion gear the past 2 years and am loyal to it. I know it's legit.

 

[RoySimpson]

Right now I'm running:

500mg NF Sust
200mg NF Trenomast
150mg NF Deca
25mg NF dbol ED

Pin half of the above e3d (Sunday/Wednesday) w/ dbol ED.
5'9" 205lbs 14% BF at 48 years old. Diet is a variation of keto where it's mostly proteins and fats with about 50-100g carbs timed before workouts; workouts about 3x week.

Goals: Keep the look I have just drop more BF and try and stay at same weight (obviously LOL)

Bloods, E2, Prolactin, SHBG, FreeT are all in check (FreeT out of range LOL) with my E2&Prolactin somehow being quite low LOL. Total cholesterol in the higher range which I expected but nothing worrisome.

Two questions:
1. NFTitan was really big on recommending DHB but I'm hesitant to create or run a cycle with it. Anyone have any feedback on DHB?
2. I injured both arms way overdoing it armwrestling and fucked my tendons up. Now, I'm sore AF with pain in my elbows and only lifting half what I used. I'm running Chase Iron's GLOW (TB-500, BPC-157, GHK-CU) at 250mcg twice a day and it helped a shit ton in only 4 weeks (supposed to be a 3-6 month setback). I've stayed on cycle and seem to be maintaining. Would anyone fine tune it based on less weight and times per week in the gym due to the injury?

Thanks to @LevButlerov for teaching me how to post my log and also to get my damn Avatar updated LOL.

Critique away if you will, I have thick skin.

@HarleyGuy welcome to the forums bro!

 

[LevButlerov]

Yessir! Been using solely Fusion gear the past 2 years and am loyal to it. I know it's legit.

@Fusion Canada is good people he took care of the EVO Canadian brothers @HarleyGuy

waiting on your next log update.

 

[ballin2504]

Here's my base (see pic). 205lbs 5'9" about 15-17% in this pic (according to my renpho lol). I went from 270lbs out of shape down to 190lbs and built up to this since 2022. I have the "ex fat guy" loose skin in places (ie: lower abs, lower back, above obliques around lats when arms are down, etc) that will never go away without surgery but it's not that noticeable if I'm above 200lbs. If I dip under 15% or 195lbs it becomes very obvious. Come the Fall/Winter I'd like to get to 215 and have this same rough BF. I'm not interested in looking beach shredded, just wanna be fit and look surprisingly good for pushing 50 yrs old. I'm on the cycle above along with the GLOW for my injury and I slam in a GLP-1 once a week at 1mg because I often "night binge" (about once a week) and it keeps that at bay most of the time. I also just ran out of GH and was 1-2iu every morning. Waiting on a price list from NF for that. I've cruised on TRT since I was 43 yrs old, done having kids and will never come off TRT so I blast and cruise and have zero fucks given about PCT. Cruise at 300mg/week all year and then blast. Bloods are good, prolactin and e2 are somehow actually low and never needed a SERM or AI yet. I have mild gyno from the old days of prohormones back in the 90's. I have raloxifene on hand but I'm doubtful it will do much to get rid of the gyno that you can probably see and it's been there since I was early 20's.

My biggest issue is the battle of my age/metabolism with diet pushing 50 at 48yrs old. If I increase from slightly above my BMR+ I can put on mass fast so I keep the protein super high and fats are in there with carbs timed around workouts which for me keeps me looking lean with at least the outline of abs. I have a hernia which negates me being able to have the 'line' down the middle of my abs no matter how lean I get but obliques and horizontal lines show up as I go under 200lbs. Right now there's no cardio and my workouts are shit with my two tendon injuries in my elbows. Once in a while I do a 24-hour fast with cardio just to shock my system then have a cheat day two days later. I find it works well with my body and keeps it out of homeostasis. Total calories I keep ranged from 2500 to 3500 and some days lower than even 2500 but not often higher than 3500 unless it's a go nuts day then I have no idea it might be over 5000-6000+. The non 2500-3500 days are at most once a week.

As far as strength it pretty much stays the same all year round I've peaked at deadlifts 415lbs for 4 reps, squat 315lbs for 6 reps and I've always sucked at bench my whole life so 245lbs for 4-6 reps is huge set for me, shoulders have always been strong and can dumbbell press 90's for reps.

I've tried every AAS and oral out there pretty much. Abombs blow me up and winny makes me wince when I open the car door. Var and dbol have been great for me. NF's supertren and trenomast is great as is all their T. I have an Rx for pharma testE so I have used NF's fast esters to make my own Sust in the past too. Highest I've gone is 750mg for T with 400mg on all the others (Tren, Deca, EQ, Primo, NPP, Mast, etc)., not all at once but combo's of them. The 400mg tren I had to ratchet down to 200mg the sleep sides and sweats were ridiculous. I never get tren cough on Ace and have never experienced any sides except the high dose tren and those two orals mentioned.

So there's me in a nutshell. I'm gonna keep going through the summer but in the Fall/Winter I'd like to get more disciplined and am taking on all advice out there. My NF tren arrives Monday and I'm gonna go with the above cycle til mid September then cruise til my T levels are in range for a few weeks then blast again November into the new year. I know it's more of a constant 'blast' with me it may sound but as long as my bloods are in check and CT with contrast of my heart is good I basically don't give a shit until I start seeing issues. Genetically lucky I guess.

So again starting Monday I'm adding in the trenomast and will be on this:
500mg NF Sust
200mg NF Trenomast
150mg NF Deca
25mg NF dbol ED

Pin half of the above e3d (Sunday/Wednesday) w/ dbol ED. The dbol isn't low for fear of any E2 levels going high I just find I don't need much more but have never tried more than 50ED and am open to suggestions. Never done a lot with orals either. On hand I have Tbol, winny, dbol, abombs and for oils I have DHB, Sust, TrenA, TrenE, MastP, MastE, TestE, TestP, EQ. I'm about to run out of Sust so will likely mix a TestP with TestE until another Sust comes in.

Thoughts? I take on all trollers, advice, and bitchers about my current setup. Let's hear it. Been doing this a while so I've heard it all, don't hold back.

@HarleyGuy nice start to the log man. Welcome aboard

 

[25homes]

Great start bro. Like the stack

 

[HarleyGuy]

Yesterday was a hit!

Gym went well. Elbow injury is very tolerable and only a dull ache now even after the workout. Was able to do 60lb dumbbell flies and dumbbell press for 12 reps. Seated row was fine (that was the one I was worried about). Standing lateral raises with 30lbs dumbbells went totally fine. I focused on any exercise that would tax my elbow tendons and it looks like I should be back up and running soon. Did some cardio and ab work and it felt great.

My tri-peptide GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) is in the mail and I'm gonna start that back up for 8 weeks at 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice a day just to really hammer home the repair.

Diet yesterday was high protein granola (my 'cereal') using two pre-bought protein drinks as the 'milk', 2 tbsp macadamia nut oil, two scoops of iso whey, vanilla extract and cinnamon as morning meal. Evening post workout meal was as seen in pic (two pork tenderloins) with 20g collagen peptides and 20g creatine.

Getting a pump and already having DOMS feels unreal. I had stopped having DOMS for the longest time before my injury and now having DOMS is like being a kid again I love it!

Next shot is tomorrow.

Also, I said fuck it and am ordering some Jeotropin GH to run at 2iu ED along with some other gear as well. I think the GH will work synergistically with the GLOW to be honest as well as the minor fat loss properties it provides.

Today was a cardio day... one hour of HIIT and my shirt was soaked.

Stay tuned..... oh, and if you think eating two pork tenderloins in one meal is a lot you should see what I can pack away. Hence my ability to put on mass way too easily LOL.

 

[LevButlerov]

Yesterday was a hit!

Gym went well. Elbow injury is very tolerable and only a dull ache now even after the workout. Was able to do 60lb dumbbell flies and dumbbell press for 12 reps. Seated row was fine (that was the one I was worried about). Standing lateral raises with 30lbs dumbbells went totally fine. I focused on any exercise that would tax my elbow tendons and it looks like I should be back up and running soon. Did some cardio and ab work and it felt great.

My tri-peptide GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) is in the mail and I'm gonna start that back up for 8 weeks at 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice a day just to really hammer home the repair.

Diet yesterday was high protein granola (my 'cereal') using two pre-bought protein drinks as the 'milk', 2 tbsp macadamia nut oil, two scoops of iso whey, vanilla extract and cinnamon as morning meal. Evening post workout meal was as seen in pic (two pork tenderloins) with 20g collagen peptides and 20g creatine.

Getting a pump and already having DOMS feels unreal. I had stopped having DOMS for the longest time before my injury and now having DOMS is like being a kid again I love it!

Next shot is tomorrow.

Also, I said fuck it and am ordering some Jeotropin GH to run at 2iu ED along with some other gear as well. I think the GH will work synergistically with the GLOW to be honest as well as the minor fat loss properties it provides.

Today was a cardio day... one hour of HIIT and my shirt was soaked.

Stay tuned..... oh, and if you think eating two pork tenderloins in one meal is a lot you should see what I can pack away. Hence my ability to put on mass way too easily LOL.

DOMS is going to be hard, that means you're pushing right. @HarleyGuy how much full macros have you tracked? we need to push that out to see why you not recovering.
AND hgh is a good add imo.

 

[HarleyGuy]

DOMS is going to be hard, that means you're pushing right. @HarleyGuy how much full macros have you tracked? we need to push that out to see why you not recovering.
AND hgh is a good add imo.

My recovery used to be almost too good. Never got DOMS and could do back to back muscle groups. I'd have to switch up exercises entirely just to get stiff or remotely sore. I think it's the 6 week lay off due to the injury and finally feeling DOMS again after my first workout back at the gym going relatively hard. It's been about 36 hours now and the DOMS is awesome IMO. I'm going back tomorrow and will keep you posted.

I don't track my macros to a T but I'd say it's about 60P 30F 10C.

Happy to hear the HGH is a good add. I'm definitely a lifer when it comes to HGH and TRT.

Pic of dinner tonight. 1kg flank steak quarter eaten already.

 

[LevButlerov]

My recovery used to be almost too good. Never got DOMS and could do back to back muscle groups. I'd have to switch up exercises entirely just to get stiff or remotely sore. I think it's the 6 week lay off due to the injury and finally feeling DOMS again after my first workout back at the gym going relatively hard. It's been about 36 hours now and the DOMS is awesome IMO. I'm going back tomorrow and will keep you posted.

I don't track my macros to a T but I'd say it's about 60P 30F 10C.

Happy to hear the HGH is a good add. I'm definitely a lifer when it comes to HGH and TRT.

Pic of dinner tonight. 1kg flank steak quarter eaten already.

The steak looks good rare perfection @HarleyGuy

The real issue with DOMS usually is the lack of nutrition for recovery, that's why I ask.

 

[HarleyGuy]

The steak looks good rare perfection @HarleyGuy

The real issue with DOMS usually is the lack of nutrition for recovery, that's why I ask.

Ya fair enough. It's never been an issue before; I've never taken 6 weeks off and sat on the couch either hence the DOMS I think.

 

[LevButlerov]

Ya fair enough. It's never been an issue before; I've never taken 6 weeks off and sat on the couch either hence the DOMS I think.

Thats possible too, can we get your macros for a few days tracked?

 

[HarleyGuy]

I'm 2MAD and today was a non-workout day so for today I had 500g of pressed cottage cheese straight up (see pic). So 1st meal was 520 cals with 101g P 4g F 12g C. That one package is 500g.

Second meal was 1kg flank steak (see pic above) then I had some leftover ground beef the kids didn't eat (about 2 cups of). So about 2400 cals for meal 2. So second meal was about 268g P 70g F 0g C plus the ground beef.

Total for the day today:

2920 cals
369P
74F
12gC

On non workout days (I did fasted cardio today though) I don't bother with carbs. Carbs blow me up so I time them around lifting.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Well! Somehow I'm down to 191 lbs this morning (must be the de-carb and HIIT yesterday water loss). Breakfast this morning was 3 cups of vector granola, 2 scoops iso whey, 2 pre-made protein bottles as 'milk', 20g collagen powder, 20g creatine, cinnamon and vanilla extract.

Macros:
Granola 1230 cals 63g P 180g C 39g F
Whey 300 cals 50g P 6g C 6g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen 68 cals 17g P

Total:
1980 cals
190g Protein
198g Carbs
51g Fat

Workout keeping in mind going easy on elbows injury: 1-hour roughly at gym. Legs (seated press, quad extension - 3 sets then 4th to failure), shoulders (all machines for now except dumbbell press - 3 sets then 4th to failure), abs to failure 4 sets.

I can't wait to get back at deadlift once I know the arms are healed up from the elbow injury!

Dinner tonight is a 'cheat' meal at the Mandorin (all you can eat) where I will be going chicken, beef and shrimp only, and as much as I can stuff in! Will post one pic and probably have about 4 plates. So today will be one of those 5000-6000 calorie days I mentioned I sometimes undertake to keep the body guessing.

 

[LevButlerov]

I'm 2MAD and today was a non-workout day so for today I had 500g of pressed cottage cheese straight up (see pic). So 1st meal was 520 cals with 101g P 4g F 12g C. That one package is 500g.

Second meal was 1kg flank steak (see pic above) then I had some leftover ground beef the kids didn't eat (about 2 cups of). So about 2400 cals for meal 2. So second meal was about 268g P 70g F 0g C plus the ground beef.

Total for the day today:

2920 cals
369P
74F
12gC

On non workout days (I did fasted cardio today though) I don't bother with carbs. Carbs blow me up so I time them around lifting.

Well! Somehow I'm down to 191 lbs this morning (must be the de-carb and HIIT yesterday water loss). Breakfast this morning was 3 cups of vector granola, 2 scoops iso whey, 2 pre-made protein bottles as 'milk', 20g collagen powder, 20g creatine, cinnamon and vanilla extract.

Macros:
Granola 1230 cals 63g P 180g C 39g F
Whey 300 cals 50g P 6g C 6g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen 68 cals 17g P

Total:
1980 cals
190g Protein
198g Carbs
51g Fat

Workout keeping in mind going easy on elbows injury: 1-hour roughly at gym. Legs (seated press, quad extension - 3 sets then 4th to failure), shoulders (all machines for now except dumbbell press - 3 sets then 4th to failure), abs to failure 4 sets.

I can't wait to get back at deadlift once I know the arms are healed up from the elbow injury!

Dinner tonight is a 'cheat' meal at the Mandorin (all you can eat) where I will be going chicken, beef and shrimp only, and as much as I can stuff in! Will post one pic and probably have about 4 plates. So today will be one of those 5000-6000 calorie days I mentioned I sometimes undertake to keep the body guessing.

@HarleyGuy after a 2MAD day you could have a drop in weight of course. 5-6cal day is coming? let see a big food day

 

[stevesmi]

Well! Somehow I'm down to 191 lbs this morning (must be the de-carb and HIIT yesterday water loss). Breakfast this morning was 3 cups of vector granola, 2 scoops iso whey, 2 pre-made protein bottles as 'milk', 20g collagen powder, 20g creatine, cinnamon and vanilla extract.

Macros:
Granola 1230 cals 63g P 180g C 39g F
Whey 300 cals 50g P 6g C 6g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen 68 cals 17g P

Total:
1980 cals
190g Protein
198g Carbs
51g Fat

Workout keeping in mind going easy on elbows injury: 1-hour roughly at gym. Legs (seated press, quad extension - 3 sets then 4th to failure), shoulders (all machines for now except dumbbell press - 3 sets then 4th to failure), abs to failure 4 sets.

I can't wait to get back at deadlift once I know the arms are healed up from the elbow injury!

Dinner tonight is a 'cheat' meal at the Mandorin (all you can eat) where I will be going chicken, beef and shrimp only, and as much as I can stuff in! Will post one pic and probably have about 4 plates. So today will be one of those 5000-6000 calorie days I mentioned I sometimes undertake to keep the body guessing.

yeah its funny how weight fluctuates. it depends on going to the bathroom, water, and everything else. @HarleyGuy thats why its important to weigh in same time daily and track

 

[BodyMonster34]

Well! Somehow I'm down to 191 lbs this morning (must be the de-carb and HIIT yesterday water loss). Breakfast this morning was 3 cups of vector granola, 2 scoops iso whey, 2 pre-made protein bottles as 'milk', 20g collagen powder, 20g creatine, cinnamon and vanilla extract.

Macros:
Granola 1230 cals 63g P 180g C 39g F
Whey 300 cals 50g P 6g C 6g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen 68 cals 17g P

Total:
1980 cals
190g Protein
198g Carbs
51g Fat

Workout keeping in mind going easy on elbows injury: 1-hour roughly at gym. Legs (seated press, quad extension - 3 sets then 4th to failure), shoulders (all machines for now except dumbbell press - 3 sets then 4th to failure), abs to failure 4 sets.

I can't wait to get back at deadlift once I know the arms are healed up from the elbow injury!

Dinner tonight is a 'cheat' meal at the Mandorin (all you can eat) where I will be going chicken, beef and shrimp only, and as much as I can stuff in! Will post one pic and probably have about 4 plates. So today will be one of those 5000-6000 calorie days I mentioned I sometimes undertake to keep the body guessing.

@HarleyGuy bro need to see some red meat here. you not doing enough with that. 6000 calories but not seeing red meat

 

[2Thick]

Well! Somehow I'm down to 191 lbs this morning (must be the de-carb and HIIT yesterday water loss). Breakfast this morning was 3 cups of vector granola, 2 scoops iso whey, 2 pre-made protein bottles as 'milk', 20g collagen powder, 20g creatine, cinnamon and vanilla extract.

Macros:
Granola 1230 cals 63g P 180g C 39g F
Whey 300 cals 50g P 6g C 6g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen 68 cals 17g P

Total:
1980 cals
190g Protein
198g Carbs
51g Fat

Workout keeping in mind going easy on elbows injury: 1-hour roughly at gym. Legs (seated press, quad extension - 3 sets then 4th to failure), shoulders (all machines for now except dumbbell press - 3 sets then 4th to failure), abs to failure 4 sets.

I can't wait to get back at deadlift once I know the arms are healed up from the elbow injury!

Dinner tonight is a 'cheat' meal at the Mandorin (all you can eat) where I will be going chicken, beef and shrimp only, and as much as I can stuff in! Will post one pic and probably have about 4 plates. So today will be one of those 5000-6000 calorie days I mentioned I sometimes undertake to keep the body guessing.

@HarleyGuy cals and protein are looking good. this is good! enjoy your cheat meal

 

[HarleyGuy]

Update on meal # 2. The all you can eat dinner tonight was at least 2kg of roast beef, steak, and chicken with shrimp. About 4 heaping plates. I had a full on food baby and loved it. I'm sure protein today was 500g+

@HarleyGuy bro need to see some red meat here. you not doing enough with that. 6000 calories but not seeing red meat

Dinner is always at least 1kg of red meat. Usually flank steak but tonight was insane (see above). Breakfast is usually a little less 'heavy' but just as much macros that are on point.

Forgot to take a pic but just imagine as much red meat, shrimp and chicken you can pile on the chinese plates and then multiply that by four! LOL

 

[Mobster]

Can you strap the elbow

 

[Ulter]

Well! Somehow I'm down to 191 lbs this morning (must be the de-carb and HIIT yesterday water loss). Breakfast this morning was 3 cups of vector granola, 2 scoops iso whey, 2 pre-made protein bottles as 'milk', 20g collagen powder, 20g creatine, cinnamon and vanilla extract.

Macros:
Granola 1230 cals 63g P 180g C 39g F
Whey 300 cals 50g P 6g C 6g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen 68 cals 17g P

Total:
1980 cals
190g Protein
198g Carbs
51g Fat

Workout keeping in mind going easy on elbows injury: 1-hour roughly at gym. Legs (seated press, quad extension - 3 sets then 4th to failure), shoulders (all machines for now except dumbbell press - 3 sets then 4th to failure), abs to failure 4 sets.

I can't wait to get back at deadlift once I know the arms are healed up from the elbow injury!

Dinner tonight is a 'cheat' meal at the Mandorin (all you can eat) where I will be going chicken, beef and shrimp only, and as much as I can stuff in! Will post one pic and probably have about 4 plates. So today will be one of those 5000-6000 calorie days I mentioned I sometimes undertake to keep the body guessing.

looks good on the macros. this is some solid amounts of iron and minerals in your food. how do you like the granola? stuff makes me puke everytime lol @HarleyGuy

 

[ROIDDERS]

Well! Somehow I'm down to 191 lbs this morning (must be the de-carb and HIIT yesterday water loss). Breakfast this morning was 3 cups of vector granola, 2 scoops iso whey, 2 pre-made protein bottles as 'milk', 20g collagen powder, 20g creatine, cinnamon and vanilla extract.

Macros:
Granola 1230 cals 63g P 180g C 39g F
Whey 300 cals 50g P 6g C 6g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen 68 cals 17g P

Total:
1980 cals
190g Protein
198g Carbs
51g Fat

Workout keeping in mind going easy on elbows injury: 1-hour roughly at gym. Legs (seated press, quad extension - 3 sets then 4th to failure), shoulders (all machines for now except dumbbell press - 3 sets then 4th to failure), abs to failure 4 sets.

I can't wait to get back at deadlift once I know the arms are healed up from the elbow injury!

Dinner tonight is a 'cheat' meal at the Mandorin (all you can eat) where I will be going chicken, beef and shrimp only, and as much as I can stuff in! Will post one pic and probably have about 4 plates. So today will be one of those 5000-6000 calorie days I mentioned I sometimes undertake to keep the body guessing.

Keeping it under 2000 calories and you're getting in some solid nutrition. I would be definitely getting more vegetables though. Those are important. @HarleyGuy

 

[HarleyGuy]

looks good on the macros. this is some solid amounts of iron and minerals in your food. how do you like the granola? stuff makes me puke everytime lol @HarleyGuy

I hate it! It bloats me like a mofo and sits in my stomach all day. I only had it because it was the last bit of granola I had bought a while ago thinking I wanted to do a bulk. Never again! I'd rather have quinoa or brown rice it sits sooo much easier with me.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Keeping it under 2000 calories and you're getting in some solid nutrition. I would be definitely getting more vegetables though. Those are important. @HarleyGuy

@ROIDDERS That's a really good point! Just out of curiosity do you or does anyone 'cheat' and get their veggies using the veggie green powder which is supposed to supply with all the nutrients equivalent to a ton of veggies.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Can you strap the elbow

@Mobster Yes for sure on deadlifts I had planned on it. Thanks for the reminder I need to order a good one!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Breakfast this morning was 500g egg whites (the whole carton) and 6 whole eggs with 2 tbsp macadamia nut oil.

682 cals
95g P
5g C
45g F

Workout later on then spinach and red meat for dinner, have an entire filet mignon (whole) to cut into 1kg steaks. Haven't decided on pre-workout carbs yet but have Karbolyn on hand too.

 

[Noah Wixx]

Yeah weight is always up or down few lbs just part of the game we play.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Breakfast this morning was 500g egg whites (the whole carton) and 6 whole eggs with 2 tbsp macadamia nut oil.

682 cals
95g P
5g C
45g F

Workout later on then spinach and red meat for dinner, have an entire filet mignon (whole) to cut into 1kg steaks. Haven't decided on pre-workout carbs yet but have Karbolyn on hand too.

500 grams of egg whites love that brother you should have it with a protein shake

 

[BodyMonster34]

Update on meal # 2. The all you can eat dinner tonight was at least 2kg of roast beef, steak, and chicken with shrimp. About 4 heaping plates. I had a full on food baby and loved it. I'm sure protein today was 500g+

Dinner is always at least 1kg of red meat. Usually flank steak but tonight was insane (see above). Breakfast is usually a little less 'heavy' but just as much macros that are on point.

Forgot to take a pic but just imagine as much red meat, shrimp and chicken you can pile on the chinese plates and then multiply that by four! LOL

bro dayum 1kg red meat is good

 

[HarleyGuy]

Late post... just binged Black Bird with the girlfriend and sat down (2am here). Had 1kg of filet mignon for meal # 2.

Meal # 2 (1kg filet mignon tenderloin):
2500 cals
220g P
160g F
0 C

Meal # 1 (see above post)
682 cals
95g P
5g C
45g F

+ 20g collagen peptide (ED) & 20g creatine (ED)

Entire day:
3182 Cals
315 P
205 F
45g C
20g collagen peptide & 20g ED

Workout was all upper body. Still feeling out the elbow tendons injury (both elbows). Seated row is good, bench press is making me realize I slightly pulled where my delt inserts into my bi's/tri's area, straight up bicep curls and triceps push downs and single dumbbell overhead press is fine if I don't go too heavy yet. Pumps are great and it feels unreal to not have the debilitating pain I had since June 15th (Father's Day family armwrestling where everyone wanted to try me and my stupid ego led to me winning each match but almost tearing my elbow tendons).

Next up is my fave life, the dealift. I'm thinking it should go fine and just gonna start with 1 plate and end with 2 plates for sets and see how that plays out.

My 3 vials of GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) showed up and I just started running that. First pin was a one time front load bolus of 3.75mg GHK/750mcg TB/750mcg BPC before bed just now. I've never given a shit about PIP before and don't recall anything ever having PIP enough to mention but that GLOW has some spicy fuckin PIP to it so I just put it in SQ on my hip and it's fine. If you do it SQ on your lower abs get ready for a PIP ride LOL.

Shot tomorrow is:
500mg NF Sust
200mg NF Trenomast
150mg NF Deca
**oral is ED 25mg NF dbol**

See y'all in the morning bros. I have pics of my two whole filet mignons to post too! Cut right off the cow and plastic sealed up.

 

[ROIDDERS]

@ROIDDERS That's a really good point! Just out of curiosity do you or does anyone 'cheat' and get their veggies using the veggie green powder which is supposed to supply with all the nutrients equivalent to a ton of veggies.

those powders dont' work man. i wish they did lol

 

[Ulter]

I hate it! It bloats me like a mofo and sits in my stomach all day. I only had it because it was the last bit of granola I had bought a while ago thinking I wanted to do a bulk. Never again! I'd rather have quinoa or brown rice it sits sooo much easier with me.

yeah granola is no good. stop eating it man.

 

[HarleyGuy]

yeah granola is no good. stop eating it man.

With pleasure! Not gonna miss that at all. I'd rather have a cheat meal and have cinnamon toast crunch with protein milk and whey!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Today was an OMAD day with basic outdoor yardwork, mowing lawn and lifting tree stumps and mulch. Woke up today at 195lbs. Talk about fluctuation LOL.

Morning was one 1kg pork tenderloin and a protein shake with one of two shots of GLOW at 1.15mg GHK/250mcg TB/250mcg.

2000 cals
320g P
50g F
10 C

Fasting til tomorrow and workout at gym tomorrow. I will be more detailed in what my workout entails starting tomorrow.

Check out the beef whole tenderloin x 2 (see pic)

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Today was an OMAD day with basic outdoor yardwork, mowing lawn and lifting tree stumps and mulch. Woke up today at 195lbs. Talk about fluctuation LOL.

Morning was one 1kg pork tenderloin and a protein shake with one of two shots of GLOW at 1.15mg GHK/250mcg TB/250mcg.

2000 cals
320g P
50g F
10 C

Fasting til tomorrow and workout at gym tomorrow. I will be more detailed in what my workout entails starting tomorrow.

Check out the beef whole tenderloin x 2 (see pic)

OMAD is the best day easy to do brother the beef is the realest big tenderloin for a big man @HarleyGuy

 

[RoySimpson]

Well! Somehow I'm down to 191 lbs this morning (must be the de-carb and HIIT yesterday water loss). Breakfast this morning was 3 cups of vector granola, 2 scoops iso whey, 2 pre-made protein bottles as 'milk', 20g collagen powder, 20g creatine, cinnamon and vanilla extract.

Macros:
Granola 1230 cals 63g P 180g C 39g F
Whey 300 cals 50g P 6g C 6g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen 68 cals 17g P

Total:
1980 cals
190g Protein
198g Carbs
51g Fat

Workout keeping in mind going easy on elbows injury: 1-hour roughly at gym. Legs (seated press, quad extension - 3 sets then 4th to failure), shoulders (all machines for now except dumbbell press - 3 sets then 4th to failure), abs to failure 4 sets.

I can't wait to get back at deadlift once I know the arms are healed up from the elbow injury!

Dinner tonight is a 'cheat' meal at the Mandorin (all you can eat) where I will be going chicken, beef and shrimp only, and as much as I can stuff in! Will post one pic and probably have about 4 plates. So today will be one of those 5000-6000 calorie days I mentioned I sometimes undertake to keep the body guessing.

@harle

Well! Somehow I'm down to 191 lbs this morning (must be the de-carb and HIIT yesterday water loss). Breakfast this morning was 3 cups of vector granola, 2 scoops iso whey, 2 pre-made protein bottles as 'milk', 20g collagen powder, 20g creatine, cinnamon and vanilla extract.

Macros:
Granola 1230 cals 63g P 180g C 39g F
Whey 300 cals 50g P 6g C 6g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen 68 cals 17g P

Total:
1980 cals
190g Protein
198g Carbs
51g Fat

Workout keeping in mind going easy on elbows injury: 1-hour roughly at gym. Legs (seated press, quad extension - 3 sets then 4th to failure), shoulders (all machines for now except dumbbell press - 3 sets then 4th to failure), abs to failure 4 sets.

I can't wait to get back at deadlift once I know the arms are healed up from the elbow injury!

Dinner tonight is a 'cheat' meal at the Mandorin (all you can eat) where I will be going chicken, beef and shrimp only, and as much as I can stuff in! Will post one pic and probably have about 4 plates. So today will be one of those 5000-6000 calorie days I mentioned I sometimes undertake to keep the body guessing.

@HarleyGuy gotta up those calories bro!!

 

[HarleyGuy]

OMAD is the best day easy to do brother the beef is the realest big tenderloin for a big man @HarleyGuy

Thanks bro! Being 48 yrs old and 195lbs with abs is my saving grace. I love bragging to my two sons (24 and 22) I'll outlift them until I'm 60 and that's my goal!

 

[HarleyGuy]

@harle

@HarleyGuy gotta up those calories bro!!

I plan on it brother. I just wanna get to the gym more consistently and go heavier first. With my metabolism and ability to put on mass and age I gotta be careful with the cals and macros when I'm injured and only going light at the gym 2-3 times a week. I'm staying on cycle just because I can. I'm TRT forever and can bridge the gym layoff and maintain what I have with just above maintenance cals.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Thanks bro! Being 48 yrs old and 195lbs with abs is my saving grace. I love bragging to my two sons (24 and 22) I'll outlift them until I'm 60 and that's my goal!

keep those abs tight you need them for the ladies

 

[HarleyGuy]

keep those abs tight you need them for the ladies

That's the best advice bro! Once I start losing my abs I lower the cals immediately and go macro dense on protein with zero carb until they come back. My days of bulking and cutting are over at my age it's too hard to cut now. If I wanted that dense big rugby player look I could have that in a month the way my body reacts to increased cals but I like the built with abs look better right around 195. Anything over 210 and I look better in a t-shirt but feel like shit and not fit at all.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

That's the best advice bro! Once I start losing my abs I lower the cals immediately and go macro dense on protein with zero carb until they come back. My days of bulking and cutting are over at my age it's too hard to cut now. If I wanted that dense big rugby player look I could have that in a month the way my body reacts to increased cals but I like the built with abs look better right around 195. Anything over 210 and I look better in a t-shirt but feel like shit and not fit at all.

always cut and stay lean brother the tight abs are the key to long term success @HarleyGuy

 

[HarleyGuy]

@Npcclassicphysique champ Agreed, and I feel the best too. If you look at my OP pics in this thread I went from 270 and a hot mess down to 190 in 8 months using keto and monitoring blood glucose and ketones but got skinny fat. Then bulked to 220-225lbs and my avatar pic is roughly now at 193lbs and I feel the best at that weight by far.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Just an update as well, I switched to once a week pinning and there's minor modifications to my cycle highlighted in red.

500mg NF Sust is now: **ran out of NF sust** so I do 400mg Rx grade (prescription TestE) with 100mg NF TestP totalling 500mg
200mg NF Trenomast: same (both are acetates so I don't mind peaking from day 2-4 with this and the TestP)
150mg NF Deca: upped this to 300mg since I'm about to go heavier now that after 6-8 weeks my injury is ready
25mg NF dbol ED: considering upping to 50 doing 25mg twice a day
50mg DHB: just because I still have half a vile so this will last me 10 weeks at a low dose
40mg lasix: Prescribed Rx each morning - keeps the water off and doc agreed it's best for my heart

Anyway that was tonight's pin and it will be once week now. I use 5ml syringes, draw with an 18g and pin with a 22g (glutes, upper outer quad but not often, delts, and I've even tried lats). Tonight my syringe had the full 5ml in it . I'm open to critique of the cycle as well.

Any thoughts on these changes?
- Deca at 300
- dbol to 50
- adding the low dose DHB
- ancillaries (last I tested my E2 and Prolactin were fine and my Prolactin was surprisingly low). I have all on hand. Letro, arimidex, aromasin, raloxifene, caber but never used nolva

Supps:
Creatine 20mg ED
Collogen Peptide 20mg ED
Mutant multivitamin x 2 ED
NAC 1200mg
Milk Thistle 7500mg x 3 ED
Bioton 1mg

OMAD experiences:
My body loves OMAD but if I do OMAD first thing in the morning I've got the food baby pregnant bloat all freakin day and still have it tonight. Kind of annoying but I knew I'd be working outside all day and didn't feel like getting the dizzy fasted cardio woozies. Normally my OMAD is post W/O around dinner time if I do OMAD which means I'm not going out that night and can sit with the food baby and wait to wake up with it gone.
I don't know how bros do it when they're bulking and going 6000-8000+ cals and not be walking around all day with a beer belly look LOL.

2MAD experiences:

This agrees with my daily confidence and compliments my overall 'build' better, including overall energy levels. A light mostly protein meal in the morning and then most of my calories after workout after dinner is my 2MAD.

I'd appreciate any feedback on the adjusted cycle especially upping the dbol or not (no need to change the title of the thread). The orals would only be until the end of August so 4-5 weeks total. I have most orals on hand as well but don't suggest abombs, they blow me up like a water buffalo LOL.

My goal is to get back to 205-210lbs where I was before my injury (with abs) while keeping the extra body fat from rearing it's ugly head.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Good morning Evo bros! Early progress pic. 196lbs this morning with same BF% so far (15% according to Renpho - 5'9"). Feeling a little more rounded and 'bubbly' and this is relaxed in the morning.

My body is bouncing back fast from my soft flat avatar pic during the 6 week layoff with the injury. Waiting on the GH will run at 2IU ED. Meal #1 is later but pre-breakfast was 25mg dbol.

 

[ballin2504]

Well! Somehow I'm down to 191 lbs this morning (must be the de-carb and HIIT yesterday water loss). Breakfast this morning was 3 cups of vector granola, 2 scoops iso whey, 2 pre-made protein bottles as 'milk', 20g collagen powder, 20g creatine, cinnamon and vanilla extract.

Macros:
Granola 1230 cals 63g P 180g C 39g F
Whey 300 cals 50g P 6g C 6g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen 68 cals 17g P

Total:
1980 cals
190g Protein
198g Carbs
51g Fat

Workout keeping in mind going easy on elbows injury: 1-hour roughly at gym. Legs (seated press, quad extension - 3 sets then 4th to failure), shoulders (all machines for now except dumbbell press - 3 sets then 4th to failure), abs to failure 4 sets.

I can't wait to get back at deadlift once I know the arms are healed up from the elbow injury!

Dinner tonight is a 'cheat' meal at the Mandorin (all you can eat) where I will be going chicken, beef and shrimp only, and as much as I can stuff in! Will post one pic and probably have about 4 plates. So today will be one of those 5000-6000 calorie days I mentioned I sometimes undertake to keep the body guessing.

@HarleyGuy I really like the cheat meal man. It’s not indulging in a bunch of sweet. Just more protein. What we all need

 

[Ulter]

With pleasure! Not gonna miss that at all. I'd rather have a cheat meal and have cinnamon toast crunch with protein milk and whey!

if things bother your stomach just cut them out. trial and error

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

@Npcclassicphysique champ Agreed, and I feel the best too. If you look at my OP pics in this thread I went from 270 and a hot mess down to 190 in 8 months using keto and monitoring blood glucose and ketones but got skinny fat. Then bulked to 220-225lbs and my avatar pic is roughly now at 193lbs and I feel the best at that weight by far.

you've done a good job on the cut brother how about getting on a glp-1 like retatrutide? @HarleyGuy

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Just an update as well, I switched to once a week pinning and there's minor modifications to my cycle highlighted in red.

500mg NF Sust is now: **ran out of NF sust** so I do 400mg Rx grade (prescription TestE) with 100mg NF TestP totalling 500mg
200mg NF Trenomast: same (both are acetates so I don't mind peaking from day 2-4 with this and the TestP)
150mg NF Deca: upped this to 300mg since I'm about to go heavier now that after 6-8 weeks my injury is ready
25mg NF dbol ED: considering upping to 50 doing 25mg twice a day
50mg DHB: just because I still have half a vile so this will last me 10 weeks at a low dose
40mg lasix: Prescribed Rx each morning - keeps the water off and doc agreed it's best for my heart

Anyway that was tonight's pin and it will be once week now. I use 5ml syringes, draw with an 18g and pin with a 22g (glutes, upper outer quad but not often, delts, and I've even tried lats). Tonight my syringe had the full 5ml in it . I'm open to critique of the cycle as well.

Any thoughts on these changes?
- Deca at 300
- dbol to 50
- adding the low dose DHB
- ancillaries (last I tested my E2 and Prolactin were fine and my Prolactin was surprisingly low). I have all on hand. Letro, arimidex, aromasin, raloxifene, caber but never used nolva

Supps:
Creatine 20mg ED
Collogen Peptide 20mg ED
Mutant multivitamin x 2 ED
NAC 1200mg
Milk Thistle 7500mg x 3 ED
Bioton 1mg

OMAD experiences:
My body loves OMAD but if I do OMAD first thing in the morning I've got the food baby pregnant bloat all freakin day and still have it tonight. Kind of annoying but I knew I'd be working outside all day and didn't feel like getting the dizzy fasted cardio woozies. Normally my OMAD is post W/O around dinner time if I do OMAD which means I'm not going out that night and can sit with the food baby and wait to wake up with it gone.
I don't know how bros do it when they're bulking and going 6000-8000+ cals and not be walking around all day with a beer belly look LOL.

2MAD experiences:

This agrees with my daily confidence and compliments my overall 'build' better, including overall energy levels. A light mostly protein meal in the morning and then most of my calories after workout after dinner is my 2MAD.

I'd appreciate any feedback on the adjusted cycle especially upping the dbol or not (no need to change the title of the thread). The orals would only be until the end of August so 4-5 weeks total. I have most orals on hand as well but don't suggest abombs, they blow me up like a water buffalo LOL.

My goal is to get back to 205-210lbs where I was before my injury (with abs) while keeping the extra body fat from rearing it's ugly head.

@HarleyGuy its a REALLY bad idea to dose up lasix every morning brother, you'll mess up your heart that way
why do you wnat to do it?

Good morning Evo bros! Early progress pic. 196lbs this morning with same BF% so far (15% according to Renpho - 5'9"). Feeling a little more rounded and 'bubbly' and this is relaxed in the morning.

My body is bouncing back fast from my soft flat avatar pic during the 6 week layoff with the injury. Waiting on the GH will run at 2IU ED. Meal #1 is later but pre-breakfast was 25mg dbol.

you look really good lean borther dbol breakfast how about tbol? lol

 

[HarleyGuy]

you've done a good job on the cut brother how about getting on a glp-1 like retatrutide? @HarleyGuy

Thta's great advice and I switched from a GLP-1 (ozmepic) to a GLP-3 (retatrutide) once my vials showed up from omegamino (Chase Irons). I run 2.5mg/week. It's a lower type dose but I find all I need is to the nightly food noise volume low and it does the trick @Npcclassicphysique champ

 

[HarleyGuy]

@HarleyGuy its a REALLY bad idea to dose up lasix every morning brother, you'll mess up your heart that way
why do you wnat to do it?

you look really good lean borther dbol breakfast how about tbol? lol

I appreciate you mentioning that bro. I had heart issues due to being an alcoholic (4 years sober now and fully involved in AA - I'm a lifer and never touching that poison again). I had really bad edema and was on high dose diuretics for a while along with some anti-remodeling drugs and my ejection fraction is back in range now. My doc has had me on 40mg lasix every morning now for a couple years to keep the edema at bay but I suppose I can ask if it's still totally necessary. Leave that with me and I'll mention it and won't forget. Thanks!

I keep really good track of my bloods and a silver lining of the heart issue due to alcohol is that I get an EKG with contrast once a year so I not only know my heart is good but I will know if the gear is playing a role any digression of it's current healthy state. I do find that tren messes with my cholesterol and it seems to be the only one that has it go out of range and look pretty bad. 3-4 break and it's all back in check though. @Npcclassicphysique champ

 

[HarleyGuy]

@HarleyGuy its a REALLY bad idea to dose up lasix every morning brother, you'll mess up your heart that way
why do you wnat to do it?

you look really good lean borther dbol breakfast how about tbol? lol

I'm really interested in tbol (vs dbol). I have tbol I just would be trying it for the first time. What's your take on it? Dosages, reasoning, results, etc. specific to me and my goals and having seen my shape and current form. Goal is to get to 205-210 roughly, thick, solid, strong but still hang on to those abs I hate losing any higher than 210lbs. @Npcclassicphysique champ

 

[HarleyGuy]

Life happened today and didn't make it to the gym. I will be there tomorrow morning 09:30 come hell or high water. I will keep of the % of strength I have with my injury still in play.

2MAD day today:

Meal # 1 (bigass Protein shake)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinammon
vanilla extract
838 cals
104g P
21g C
15g F


Meal # 2 (1kg filet mignon tenderloin):
2500 cals
220g P
160g F
0 C

Total:
3338 cals
324g Protein
21g Carbs
175g Fat

Peptides today:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice today.
PT-141 (weekend and all heh heh)
Retatrutide GLP-3 @ 2.5mg

If I can go hard and to failure with no pain at the injury site I'm gonna go for a 5000-6000 cal cheat day probably 4MAD and will post it in detail too especially with the gear I'm on.

 

[LevButlerov]

Thta's great advice and I switched from a GLP-1 (ozmepic) to a GLP-3 (retatrutide) once my vials showed up from omegamino (Chase Irons). I run 2.5mg/week. It's a lower type dose but I find all I need is to the nightly food noise volume low and it does the trick @Npcclassicphysique champ

@HarleyGuy retatrutide is much better In general, did you read our reta mega thread?
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/retatrutide-its-the-real-deal.103339/post-1695335

I appreciate you mentioning that bro. I had heart issues due to being an alcoholic (4 years sober now and fully involved in AA - I'm a lifer and never touching that poison again). I had really bad edema and was on high dose diuretics for a while along with some anti-remodeling drugs and my ejection fraction is back in range now. My doc has had me on 40mg lasix every morning now for a couple years to keep the edema at bay but I suppose I can ask if it's still totally necessary. Leave that with me and I'll mention it and won't forget. Thanks!

I keep really good track of my bloods and a silver lining of the heart issue due to alcohol is that I get an EKG with contrast once a year so I not only know my heart is good but I will know if the gear is playing a role any digression of it's current healthy state. I do find that tren messes with my cholesterol and it seems to be the only one that has it go out of range and look pretty bad. 3-4 break and it's all back in check though. @Npcclassicphysique champ

I was an alcoholic for many years myself, I feel you, clean and sober for a long time now as well
what drugs did you take for your heart that caused water retention?
and I believe natural options like dandelion would work as well.
But the water is truly your diet and electrolyte intake, whats your sodium intake? potassium? magnesium? trace minerals? ED

I'm really interested in tbol (vs dbol). I have tbol I just would be trying it for the first time. What's your take on it? Dosages, reasoning, results, etc. specific to me and my goals and having seen my shape and current form. Goal is to get to 205-210 roughly, thick, solid, strong but still hang on to those abs I hate losing any higher than 210lbs. @Npcclassicphysique champ

Tbol could make you snappy a bit, 20mgs ed is a good dry addition, dont use dbol too much bloat for you.

Life happened today and didn't make it to the gym. I will be there tomorrow morning 09:30 come hell or high water. I will keep of the % of strength I have with my injury still in play.

2MAD day today:

Meal # 1 (bigass Protein shake)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinammon
vanilla extract
838 cals
104g P
21g C
15g F


Meal # 2 (1kg filet mignon tenderloin):
2500 cals
220g P
160g F
0 C

Total:
3338 cals
324g Protein
21g Carbs
175g Fat

Peptides today:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice today.
PT-141 (weekend and all heh heh)
Retatrutide GLP-3 @ 2.5mg

If I can go hard and to failure with no pain at the injury site I'm gonna go for a 5000-6000 cal cheat day probably 4MAD and will post it in detail too especially with the gear I'm on.

Life happens always but you kept protein high, the carbs way too low IMO try to add some honey meal 1 next time.

 

[HarleyGuy]

2MAD today plus gym! See pic of over half eaten 1kg of filet mignon!

Gym went really well. Only a shooting pain doing preachers for biceps when I had the 40's and angled them the wrong way. Chest was 6 sets of dumbbell press working up to 60lb'ers to failure last two sets (5 weeks ago I couldn't do hardly anything). Shoulders were 6 sets of seated dumbbell press working up to 70's to failure each set. Biceps were preachers working up to 40's and focusing on the negatives and the squeeze at the top. Overall the pump was great and strength is about 60% back with minimal pain in my elbow injury.

Meal # 1 (bigass Protein shake)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinammon
@LevButlerov 2 tbsp manuka honey UMF 10+ 34g C (this is pure sugar, is this in check with my goals and the added IGF-LR3 - see below under "peptides today".)
vanilla extract

958 cals
104g P
45g C
15g F

Meal # 2 (post workout)

1kg filet mignon (half eaten in pic) = 2470 calories, 182g F, and 196g P, 0 C
1 medium avocado = 322 calories, 30g F, 4g P, and 17g C

2792 cals
300g P
212g F
17g C

Total today:
3750 cals
404g Protein
62g Carbs
175g Fat

Peptides today:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice today.
IGF1-LR3 33mcg (running for 4 weeks - loaded 3ml bac water into 1mg vial and draw to 10iu) and adding HGH 2iu when it arrives

That's it for the daily update!

 

[LevButlerov]

2MAD today plus gym! See pic of over half eaten 1kg of filet mignon!

Gym went really well. Only a shooting pain doing preachers for biceps when I had the 40's and angled them the wrong way. Chest was 6 sets of dumbbell press working up to 60lb'ers to failure last two sets (5 weeks ago I couldn't do hardly anything). Shoulders were 6 sets of seated dumbbell press working up to 70's to failure each set. Biceps were preachers working up to 40's and focusing on the negatives and the squeeze at the top. Overall the pump was great and strength is about 60% back with minimal pain in my elbow injury.

Meal # 1 (bigass Protein shake)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinammon
@LevButlerov 2 tbsp manuka honey UMF 10+ 34g C (this is pure sugar, is this in check with my goals and the added IGF-LR3 - see below under "peptides today".)
vanilla extract

958 cals
104g P
45g C
15g F

Meal # 2 (post workout)

1kg filet mignon (half eaten in pic) = 2470 calories, 182g F, and 196g P, 0 C
1 medium avocado = 322 calories, 30g F, 4g P, and 17g C

2792 cals
300g P
212g F
17g C

Total today:
3750 cals
404g Protein
62g Carbs
175g Fat

Peptides today:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice today.
IGF1-LR3 33mcg (running for 4 weeks - loaded 3ml bac water into 1mg vial and draw to 10iu) and adding HGH 2iu when it arrives

That's it for the daily update!

@HarleyGuy good update but i didnt get any answer to my post to you above
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...t-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/post-1801474

Meal # 1 (bigass Protein shake)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinammon
@LevButlerov 2 tbsp manuka honey UMF 10+ 34g C (this is pure sugar, is this in check with my goals and the added IGF-LR3 - see below under "peptides today".)
vanilla extract

958 cals
104g P
45g C
15g F

Meal # 2 (post workout)

1kg filet mignon (half eaten in pic) = 2470 calories, 182g F, and 196g P, 0 C
1 medium avocado = 322 calories, 30g F, 4g P, and 17g C

2792 cals
300g P
212g F
17g C

Total today:
3750 cals
404g Protein
62g Carbs
175g Fat

Peptides today:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice today.
IGF1-LR3 33mcg (running for 4 weeks - loaded 3ml bac water into 1mg vial and draw to 10iu) and adding HGH 2iu when it arrives

You killed it today on the food! 400 grams of protein is protein KING level, you're on your way to getting the protein KING badge.
Are you taking IGF 1 post 4 weeks? why so low on time?

 

[HarleyGuy]

Gym today was great. Back to a solid 70% of strength since the injury. Did legs machines today (gonna build up to squats again and deads) as well as back (t-bar rows and bent over rows with 90's and they felt fine) as well as traps and rear delts. Still weighing in at 193 but hoping to see the scale at 195 tomorrow.

Morning Meal # 1 (my usual bigass Protein shake)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size using the whey scoop = 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
4 tbsp cinammon
@LevButlerov 2 tbsp manuka honey UMF 10+= 34g C
vanilla extract

**I cut out the blueberries due to the IG1-LR3 as I want to keep my sugar intake to a near zero as that peptide can mess with your insulin sensitivity. I'm thinking of cutting out the honey as well.

Meal 1 total:
958 cals
104g P
45g C
15g F

Post workout - Meal # 2 (bison and eggs and lemon protein bars!)

1kg lean ground bison
2000 calories
235 grams of protein
0g C
90 grams of fat

6 large eggs scrambled
440 Cals
38g P
3g C
31g F

3 'Pure Protein" bars
585 cals
60g P
48g C
21g F

Meal 2 total:
3025 cals
332g P
51g C
142g F


Total today:
4823 cals
437g Protein
91g Carbs
187g Fat

Peptides today:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice today.
IGF1-LR3 33mcg (running for 4 weeks - loaded 3ml bac water into 1mg vial and draw to 10iu) and adding HGH 2iu when it arrives

Supps today:
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg
Berberine 1000mg (with meal # 2)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with each meal)
Psyllium Husk 500mg x 2 (one with each meal)

@LevButlerov When I run igf1-lr3 I try and get it in and then dip out fast, so I keep it at a 4-week blast. It can be some pretty powerful stuff and the receptor degradation is fast and furious so I use it sparingly at 33mcg ED then take a break to let the receptors not get too desensitized then hit it again during my next blast if need be. With my injury now I felt like it was a good time. How long and at what dose have you ran it before? Once my HGH shows up I'm going to run about 3iu alongside it too.

@Npcclassicphysique champ I've heard Vigorous Steve and some other pros say that pinning the GLOW (@ 1.25mg GHK/250mcg TB/250mcg BPC twice a day) in a site injection method had shown results. The PIP with the GHK-Cu is a kick in the ass but I don't mind, so tonight I pinned 1.25mg GHK/250mcg TB/BPC 250mcg IM directly around my elbow injury where the top of the forearm inserts into the elbow. Do you have experience or anecdotes on doing it this way?

That's it for today boys, on to tomorrow. Definitely starting to feel like this injury isn't gonna set me back for too much longer. DOMS are already going away like I'm used to.

 

[Mobster]

Meat looks great. I'm waiting for my local Lidls to reduce to clear the 4 Tomahawk Steaks no one wants to pay 24.99GBP for each. Then come to daddy!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Meat looks great. I'm waiting for my local Lidls to reduce to clear the 4 Tomahawk Steaks no one wants to pay 24.99GBP for each. Then come to daddy!

@Mobster Ya bro I hear ya! The ground bison was on sale, reduced to clear so I bought 15 lbs of it. I prefer bison over beef too. The tomahawk steaks here are about $13 GBP per pound ($26 GBP or $50 per kg CDN) in Canada. Freakin nuts man!

 

[stevesmi]

2MAD today plus gym! See pic of over half eaten 1kg of filet mignon!

Gym went really well. Only a shooting pain doing preachers for biceps when I had the 40's and angled them the wrong way. Chest was 6 sets of dumbbell press working up to 60lb'ers to failure last two sets (5 weeks ago I couldn't do hardly anything). Shoulders were 6 sets of seated dumbbell press working up to 70's to failure each set. Biceps were preachers working up to 40's and focusing on the negatives and the squeeze at the top. Overall the pump was great and strength is about 60% back with minimal pain in my elbow injury.

Meal # 1 (bigass Protein shake)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinammon
@LevButlerov 2 tbsp manuka honey UMF 10+ 34g C (this is pure sugar, is this in check with my goals and the added IGF-LR3 - see below under "peptides today".)
vanilla extract

958 cals
104g P
45g C
15g F

Meal # 2 (post workout)

1kg filet mignon (half eaten in pic) = 2470 calories, 182g F, and 196g P, 0 C
1 medium avocado = 322 calories, 30g F, 4g P, and 17g C

2792 cals
300g P
212g F
17g C

Total today:
3750 cals
404g Protein
62g Carbs
175g Fat

Peptides today:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice today.
IGF1-LR3 33mcg (running for 4 weeks - loaded 3ml bac water into 1mg vial and draw to 10iu) and adding HGH 2iu when it arrives

That's it for the daily update!

@HarleyGuy this one is looking awesome! i love the strong training. can't wait to follow the progression

 

[HarleyGuy]

I also ordered MK677 and gonna run it at 10mg ED.

I figure with the IGF1-LR3 (33mcg ED), HGH (3-4 IU ED), and MK677 (10mg ED) I'll be hitting all the pathways from the pituitary (GH), ghrelin (MK) and directly (with IGF) for the next 6 weeks or so. The GH I'll continue as long as I can afford it even if it's 2IU ED.

I have the GLP-3 Reta to keep the food noise down from the MK677 so not too worried about the ghrelin agonist.

 

[HarleyGuy]

@HarleyGuy this one is looking awesome! i love the strong training. can't wait to follow the progression

Thanks @stevesmi I've really missed that going to failure feeling and the aggression. That layoff was good for my ego to take a breather but I'm loving being back! Thanks so much for your feedback and for following my log!

Thoughts on my GH pathway peptides? Along the GLOW peptide I'm throwing the kitchen sink and everything I can at the healing process and putting on some density again.

 

[stevesmi]

Thanks @stevesmi I've really missed that going to failure feeling and the aggression. That layoff was good for my ego to take a breather but I'm loving being back! Thanks so much for your feedback and for following my log!

Thoughts on my GH pathway peptides? Along the GLOW peptide I'm throwing the kitchen sink and everything I can at the healing process and putting on some density again.

they certainly do some good things. i've used them except for igf1 lr3. found the nutrobal appetite increases extremely annoying though

 

[ceo]

2MAD today plus gym! See pic of over half eaten 1kg of filet mignon!

Gym went really well. Only a shooting pain doing preachers for biceps when I had the 40's and angled them the wrong way. Chest was 6 sets of dumbbell press working up to 60lb'ers to failure last two sets (5 weeks ago I couldn't do hardly anything). Shoulders were 6 sets of seated dumbbell press working up to 70's to failure each set. Biceps were preachers working up to 40's and focusing on the negatives and the squeeze at the top. Overall the pump was great and strength is about 60% back with minimal pain in my elbow injury.

Meal # 1 (bigass Protein shake)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinammon
@LevButlerov 2 tbsp manuka honey UMF 10+ 34g C (this is pure sugar, is this in check with my goals and the added IGF-LR3 - see below under "peptides today".)
vanilla extract

958 cals
104g P
45g C
15g F

Meal # 2 (post workout)

1kg filet mignon (half eaten in pic) = 2470 calories, 182g F, and 196g P, 0 C
1 medium avocado = 322 calories, 30g F, 4g P, and 17g C

2792 cals
300g P
212g F
17g C

Total today:
3750 cals
404g Protein
62g Carbs
175g Fat

Peptides today:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice today.
IGF1-LR3 33mcg (running for 4 weeks - loaded 3ml bac water into 1mg vial and draw to 10iu) and adding HGH 2iu when it arrives

That's it for the daily update!

bros mignon one of the best. expensive too ! costs like $35 a pound

 

[2Thick]

2MAD today plus gym! See pic of over half eaten 1kg of filet mignon!

Gym went really well. Only a shooting pain doing preachers for biceps when I had the 40's and angled them the wrong way. Chest was 6 sets of dumbbell press working up to 60lb'ers to failure last two sets (5 weeks ago I couldn't do hardly anything). Shoulders were 6 sets of seated dumbbell press working up to 70's to failure each set. Biceps were preachers working up to 40's and focusing on the negatives and the squeeze at the top. Overall the pump was great and strength is about 60% back with minimal pain in my elbow injury.

Meal # 1 (bigass Protein shake)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinammon
@LevButlerov 2 tbsp manuka honey UMF 10+ 34g C (this is pure sugar, is this in check with my goals and the added IGF-LR3 - see below under "peptides today".)
vanilla extract

958 cals
104g P
45g C
15g F

Meal # 2 (post workout)

1kg filet mignon (half eaten in pic) = 2470 calories, 182g F, and 196g P, 0 C
1 medium avocado = 322 calories, 30g F, 4g P, and 17g C

2792 cals
300g P
212g F
17g C

Total today:
3750 cals
404g Protein
62g Carbs
175g Fat

Peptides today:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice today.
IGF1-LR3 33mcg (running for 4 weeks - loaded 3ml bac water into 1mg vial and draw to 10iu) and adding HGH 2iu when it arrives

That's it for the daily update!

tough to see pics like this man. ! very tough lol. makes me hungry for one. @HarleyGuy

 

[BodyMonster34]

2MAD today plus gym! See pic of over half eaten 1kg of filet mignon!

Gym went really well. Only a shooting pain doing preachers for biceps when I had the 40's and angled them the wrong way. Chest was 6 sets of dumbbell press working up to 60lb'ers to failure last two sets (5 weeks ago I couldn't do hardly anything). Shoulders were 6 sets of seated dumbbell press working up to 70's to failure each set. Biceps were preachers working up to 40's and focusing on the negatives and the squeeze at the top. Overall the pump was great and strength is about 60% back with minimal pain in my elbow injury.

Meal # 1 (bigass Protein shake)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinammon
@LevButlerov 2 tbsp manuka honey UMF 10+ 34g C (this is pure sugar, is this in check with my goals and the added IGF-LR3 - see below under "peptides today".)
vanilla extract

958 cals
104g P
45g C
15g F

Meal # 2 (post workout)

1kg filet mignon (half eaten in pic) = 2470 calories, 182g F, and 196g P, 0 C
1 medium avocado = 322 calories, 30g F, 4g P, and 17g C

2792 cals
300g P
212g F
17g C

Total today:
3750 cals
404g Protein
62g Carbs
175g Fat

Peptides today:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice today.
IGF1-LR3 33mcg (running for 4 weeks - loaded 3ml bac water into 1mg vial and draw to 10iu) and adding HGH 2iu when it arrives

That's it for the daily update!

@HarleyGuy bro you looking good. that a big meal dayum! filet mignon expensive cut too. you must be a rich man

 

[Noah Wixx]

2MAD today plus gym! See pic of over half eaten 1kg of filet mignon!

Gym went really well. Only a shooting pain doing preachers for biceps when I had the 40's and angled them the wrong way. Chest was 6 sets of dumbbell press working up to 60lb'ers to failure last two sets (5 weeks ago I couldn't do hardly anything). Shoulders were 6 sets of seated dumbbell press working up to 70's to failure each set. Biceps were preachers working up to 40's and focusing on the negatives and the squeeze at the top. Overall the pump was great and strength is about 60% back with minimal pain in my elbow injury.

Meal # 1 (bigass Protein shake)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinammon
@LevButlerov 2 tbsp manuka honey UMF 10+ 34g C (this is pure sugar, is this in check with my goals and the added IGF-LR3 - see below under "peptides today".)
vanilla extract

958 cals
104g P
45g C
15g F

Meal # 2 (post workout)

1kg filet mignon (half eaten in pic) = 2470 calories, 182g F, and 196g P, 0 C
1 medium avocado = 322 calories, 30g F, 4g P, and 17g C

2792 cals
300g P
212g F
17g C

Total today:
3750 cals
404g Protein
62g Carbs
175g Fat

Peptides today:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice today.
IGF1-LR3 33mcg (running for 4 weeks - loaded 3ml bac water into 1mg vial and draw to 10iu) and adding HGH 2iu when it arrives

That's it for the daily update!

Just monitor that pain make sure it doesn't get worse thats what i had when my bicep tendon tore eventually in 3 spots

 

[ROIDDERS]

2MAD today plus gym! See pic of over half eaten 1kg of filet mignon!

Gym went really well. Only a shooting pain doing preachers for biceps when I had the 40's and angled them the wrong way. Chest was 6 sets of dumbbell press working up to 60lb'ers to failure last two sets (5 weeks ago I couldn't do hardly anything). Shoulders were 6 sets of seated dumbbell press working up to 70's to failure each set. Biceps were preachers working up to 40's and focusing on the negatives and the squeeze at the top. Overall the pump was great and strength is about 60% back with minimal pain in my elbow injury.

Meal # 1 (bigass Protein shake)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinammon
@LevButlerov 2 tbsp manuka honey UMF 10+ 34g C (this is pure sugar, is this in check with my goals and the added IGF-LR3 - see below under "peptides today".)
vanilla extract

958 cals
104g P
45g C
15g F

Meal # 2 (post workout)

1kg filet mignon (half eaten in pic) = 2470 calories, 182g F, and 196g P, 0 C
1 medium avocado = 322 calories, 30g F, 4g P, and 17g C

2792 cals
300g P
212g F
17g C

Total today:
3750 cals
404g Protein
62g Carbs
175g Fat

Peptides today:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice today.
IGF1-LR3 33mcg (running for 4 weeks - loaded 3ml bac water into 1mg vial and draw to 10iu) and adding HGH 2iu when it arrives

That's it for the daily update!

@HarleyGuy i'm impressed by the food you are eating. that is how its done man. gotta love a nice filet

 

[LevButlerov]

Gym today was great. Back to a solid 70% of strength since the injury. Did legs machines today (gonna build up to squats again and deads) as well as back (t-bar rows and bent over rows with 90's and they felt fine) as well as traps and rear delts. Still weighing in at 193 but hoping to see the scale at 195 tomorrow.

Morning Meal # 1 (my usual bigass Protein shake)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size using the whey scoop = 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
4 tbsp cinammon
@LevButlerov 2 tbsp manuka honey UMF 10+= 34g C
vanilla extract

**I cut out the blueberries due to the IG1-LR3 as I want to keep my sugar intake to a near zero as that peptide can mess with your insulin sensitivity. I'm thinking of cutting out the honey as well.

Meal 1 total:
958 cals
104g P
45g C
15g F

Post workout - Meal # 2 (bison and eggs and lemon protein bars!)

1kg lean ground bison
2000 calories
235 grams of protein
0g C
90 grams of fat

6 large eggs scrambled
440 Cals
38g P
3g C
31g F

3 'Pure Protein" bars
585 cals
60g P
48g C
21g F

Meal 2 total:
3025 cals
332g P
51g C
142g F


Total today:
4823 cals
437g Protein
91g Carbs
187g Fat

Peptides today:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice today.
IGF1-LR3 33mcg (running for 4 weeks - loaded 3ml bac water into 1mg vial and draw to 10iu) and adding HGH 2iu when it arrives

Supps today:
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg
Berberine 1000mg (with meal # 2)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with each meal)
Psyllium Husk 500mg x 2 (one with each meal)

@LevButlerov When I run igf1-lr3 I try and get it in and then dip out fast, so I keep it at a 4-week blast. It can be some pretty powerful stuff and the receptor degradation is fast and furious so I use it sparingly at 33mcg ED then take a break to let the receptors not get too desensitized then hit it again during my next blast if need be. With my injury now I felt like it was a good time. How long and at what dose have you ran it before? Once my HGH shows up I'm going to run about 3iu alongside it too.

@Npcclassicphysique champ I've heard Vigorous Steve and some other pros say that pinning the GLOW (@ 1.25mg GHK/250mcg TB/250mcg BPC twice a day) in a site injection method had shown results. The PIP with the GHK-Cu is a kick in the ass but I don't mind, so tonight I pinned 1.25mg GHK/250mcg TB/BPC 250mcg IM directly around my elbow injury where the top of the forearm inserts into the elbow. Do you have experience or anecdotes on doing it this way?

That's it for today boys, on to tomorrow. Definitely starting to feel like this injury isn't gonna set me back for too much longer. DOMS are already going away like I'm used to.

@HarleyGuy good level of protein, very building style You should try 2/2 with IGF, it will work just the same.

 

[HarleyGuy]

2MAD today. Not much to report except meals and the usual supps. No gym today so didn't need carbs. Touchdown on the HGH which I'm starting tonight at 3iu before bed. If you think meal # 1 sounds gross try it with some Montreal Steak Spice!

I always seem to forget to take pics before I start gorging but breakfast and dinner pics are below and half eaten LOL...

Something I've noticed: God damn the PIP is definitely the GHK-Cu. Anyone looking for a good PIP challenge get yourself some copper peptide. It's the only PIP I've ever actually noticed but it's nothing bothersome unless you subQ in the lower belly fat.

Meal # 1 (1lb of egg whites (entire 500g carton) and 1lb of lean ground bison all mixed together)

-egg whites (500g)
225 cals
50g P
5g C
0 F

-bison (454g)
900 cals
70g P
0g C
40g F

Meal 1 total:
1125 cals
130g P
5g C
15g F

Meal # 2 (1kg flank steak) total:

1920 cals
280g P
70g F
0g C
+ Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size using the whey scoop = 68 cals 17g P

Total today:
4113 cals
427g Protein
5g Carbs
125g Fat

Peptides today:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice today.
IGF1-LR3 33mcg (running for 4 weeks - loaded 3ml bac water into 1mg vial and draw to 10iu) and adding HGH 2iu when it arrives
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted

Supps today:
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with each meal)
Psyllium Husk 500mg x 2 (one with each meal)
Creatine 20g before Meal # 2

Thanks so much for everyone following and commenting and a lot of your questions are excellent and help me adjust, appreciate any advice or criticism. Gonna hit all the exercises I've been avoiding due to my injury tomorrow and see how they go!

Being accountable to this log has really and truly kept me in check on a level I haven't been before. I'm an EVO lifer!

 

[LevButlerov]

2MAD today. Not much to report except meals and the usual supps. No gym today so didn't need carbs. Touchdown on the HGH which I'm starting tonight at 3iu before bed. If you think meal # 1 sounds gross try it with some Montreal Steak Spice!

I always seem to forget to take pics before I start gorging but breakfast and dinner pics are below and half eaten LOL...

Something I've noticed: God damn the PIP is definitely the GHK-Cu. Anyone looking for a good PIP challenge get yourself some copper peptide. It's the only PIP I've ever actually noticed but it's nothing bothersome unless you subQ in the lower belly fat.

Meal # 1 (1lb of egg whites (entire 500g carton) and 1lb of lean ground bison all mixed together)

-egg whites (500g)
225 cals
50g P
5g C
0 F

-bison (454g)
900 cals
70g P
0g C
40g F

Meal 1 total:
1125 cals
130g P
5g C
15g F

Meal # 2 (1kg flank steak) total:

1920 cals
280g P
70g F
0g C
+ Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size using the whey scoop = 68 cals 17g P

Total today:
4113 cals
427g Protein
5g Carbs
125g Fat

Peptides today:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice today.
IGF1-LR3 33mcg (running for 4 weeks - loaded 3ml bac water into 1mg vial and draw to 10iu) and adding HGH 2iu when it arrives
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted

Supps today:
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with each meal)
Psyllium Husk 500mg x 2 (one with each meal)
Creatine 20g before Meal # 2

Thanks so much for everyone following and commenting and a lot of your questions are excellent and help me adjust, appreciate any advice or criticism. Gonna hit all the exercises I've been avoiding due to my injury tomorrow and see how they go!

Being accountable to this log has really and truly kept me in check on a level I haven't been before. I'm an EVO lifer!

@HarleyGuy happy to see this update but the HGH touchdown, you have to post pics thats the rule lol otherwise we have to imagine it.

Just clicking your steak REALLY good rare right?

On the protein, you're close to the protein KING crown, keep it over 400 for at least another week

 

[HarleyGuy]

Ask and you shall receive brother! I love EVO. (see pics) @LevButlerov

I included a pic of everything in my cycle as well. I make my own "Sust" using my own Rx TestE and NF TestP. Pinning once a week means I'm dumping almost 5CC into my ass each time

I will 100% keep it above 400 for the next week and post proof of it too! It's a deal!

 

[25homes]

Well! Somehow I'm down to 191 lbs this morning (must be the de-carb and HIIT yesterday water loss). Breakfast this morning was 3 cups of vector granola, 2 scoops iso whey, 2 pre-made protein bottles as 'milk', 20g collagen powder, 20g creatine, cinnamon and vanilla extract.

Macros:
Granola 1230 cals 63g P 180g C 39g F
Whey 300 cals 50g P 6g C 6g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen 68 cals 17g P

Total:
1980 cals
190g Protein
198g Carbs
51g Fat

Workout keeping in mind going easy on elbows injury: 1-hour roughly at gym. Legs (seated press, quad extension - 3 sets then 4th to failure), shoulders (all machines for now except dumbbell press - 3 sets then 4th to failure), abs to failure 4 sets.

I can't wait to get back at deadlift once I know the arms are healed up from the elbow injury!

Dinner tonight is a 'cheat' meal at the Mandorin (all you can eat) where I will be going chicken, beef and shrimp only, and as much as I can stuff in! Will post one pic and probably have about 4 plates. So today will be one of those 5000-6000 calorie days I mentioned I sometimes undertake to keep the body guessing.

Like the diet

 

[LevButlerov]

Ask and you shall receive brother! I love EVO. (see pics) @LevButlerov

I included a pic of everything in my cycle as well. I make my own "Sust" using my own Rx TestE and NF TestP. Pinning once a week means I'm dumping almost 5CC into my ass each time

I will 100% keep it above 400 for the next week and post proof of it too! It's a deal!

Love this @Fusion Canada touchdown pics! true clean and good looking gear!
@HarleyGuy you make your own sustanon? LOL you are one hardcore mofo!

 

[stevesmi]

Ask and you shall receive brother! I love EVO. (see pics) @LevButlerov

I included a pic of everything in my cycle as well. I make my own "Sust" using my own Rx TestE and NF TestP. Pinning once a week means I'm dumping almost 5CC into my ass each time

I will 100% keep it above 400 for the next week and post proof of it too! It's a deal!

@HarleyGuy i love EQ too. its my favorite injectable. its cheap and so versatile

 

[HarleyGuy]

Sorry bros, just sat down it's almost 11pm here. Definitely a 400+ protein day I can't wait to show you the pics of what I had today and will post first thing in the morning. Plan on gym tomorrow with 400+ protein and maybe 500!

 

[Fusion Canada]

When you say 400+g prot is that all from food or you use shakes too. I struggle even getting 3500cals in a day