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Thanks man! Just giving back. I’m not a pro anything and I’m not formally educated. I would defer to you, npc, or Steve always, so if any of you think I’m not being helpful I’ll reel it in. I think with some of these I can share perspective and help a lot. And it helps me too, as far as how I think about all these things and processing my experience
You're a pro in the EVO family :D you really are trying to help which is unique and heartfelt, I already talked to other mods to vote on your VIP status. @toddthelineman
 
@Rurx7 no matter what! remember your parents love you. You're young, so it's hard for you to understand that. Tell your mother your love her and care for her, don't let the moment pass. I know sounds strange but its important.

You're on the right track, I'd like to get you m ore dialed in on food and training before we talk ghk or cjc!
idk bro ive never heard it, i think it would just be awkward if I just randomly started saying it. we arent close like that, we are more like roommates. Also with ghk, I dont see the harm in starting now? Its not like its dependant on my diet or anything like that. im seeing my dermitologist next thursday after this one to get tretinoin from her, and imma ask her opinion and hopefully get prescribed it
You're a pro in the EVO family :D you really are trying to help which is unique and heartfelt, I already talked to other mods to vote on your VIP status. @toddthelineman
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idk bro ive never heard it, i think it would just be awkward if I just randomly started saying it. we arent close like that, we are more like roommates. Also with ghk, I dont see the harm in starting now? Its not like its dependant on my diet or anything like that. im seeing my dermitologist next thursday after this one to get tretinoin from her, and imma ask her opinion and hopefully get prescribed it

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Wow. Oral tretinoin? Hopefully we can see your bloodwork before you start it. I did do oral tretinoin, and it did make my skin look as perfect as a lifelong outdoor worker could hahaha. I didn’t have any big issues with it, but thankfully I know how to deal with my acne without it now
 
idk bro ive never heard it, i think it would just be awkward if I just randomly started saying it. we arent close like that, we are more like roommates. Also with ghk, I dont see the harm in starting now? Its not like its dependant on my diet or anything like that. im seeing my dermitologist next thursday after this one to get tretinoin from her, and imma ask her opinion and hopefully get prescribed it
@Rurx7 no matter what your mother loves you, I know it doesn't feel like that but she does inside.
You can make more of an effort with her.

Yes peptide us is dependent on your diet and training, haven't seen regular updates from you. You need to start updating us more and showing your food, because peptides not going to do anything if you're not making the lifestyle changes.
 
Wow. Oral tretinoin? Hopefully we can see your bloodwork before you start it. I did do oral tretinoin, and it did make my skin look as perfect as a lifelong outdoor worker could hahaha. I didn’t have any big issues with it, but thankfully I know how to deal with my acne without it now
when I get paid this friday im gonna make all the purchases that I need to. Tupperware for foodprepping, the ingredients. bloodwork. bluelight glasses to help with sleep. Idk if theres anything else I havent made a list.

I didnt wanna pull from my emergency fund for all this stuff lol
 
@Rurx7 no matter what your mother loves you, I know it doesn't feel like that but she does inside.
You can make more of an effort with her.

Yes peptide us is dependent on your diet and training, haven't seen regular updates from you. You need to start updating us more and showing your food, because peptides not going to do anything if you're not making the lifestyle changes.
ive been updating my food everyday 😭

with my mother, im sure she does but we dont have that relationship. if I started saying lovydovy things she would just be concerned more than anything
 
ive been updating my food everyday 😭
Training and sleep is a must too.
We need to get you on a natural fadogia based test booster @Rurx7
with my mother, im sure she does but we dont have that relationship. if I started saying lovydovy things she would just be concerned more than anything
I understand, there is a relationship dynamic. Just be nice when you can, and slowly build things up with her in that case.
 
Training and sleep is a must too.
We need to get you on a natural fadogia based test booster @Rurx7

I understand, there is a relationship dynamic. Just be nice when you can, and slowly build things up with her in that case.
I want to get my bloodwork done before trying any test boosters ~ to see if they actually work. also if my growth plates are open, which ill find out soon, imma not waste any time imma just try and boost my igf1 to get as much out of my bones as possible.

Ill try bro, family shit is hard. its wise to build a strong relationship and ill keep that in mind
 
when I get paid this friday im gonna make all the purchases that I need to. Tupperware for foodprepping, the ingredients. bloodwork. bluelight glasses to help with sleep. Idk if theres anything else I havent made a list.

I didnt wanna pull from my emergency fund for all this stuff lol
It’s ok to do it on the cheap too. I have red glasses, red lense over my phone. Red light in the bedroom. I changed my entire house to amber incandescent bulbs lol. But you can just turn the lights out and go to bed early too. When I stay in hotels the bright led bulbs look blue and it feels different. You get used to the dim yellow light. Feels good
 
I want to get my bloodwork done before trying any test boosters ~ to see if they actually work. also if my growth plates are open, which ill find out soon, imma not waste any time imma just try and boost my igf1 to get as much out of my bones as possible.
Before you do peptides or anything else, lets get full bloods done, go for it. IGF1 testosteron e2 lh fsh t3/t4 full bloods, when can you do them? @Rurx7
Ill try bro, family shit is hard. its wise to build a strong relationship and ill keep that in mind
Family is hard always, but do your best to build that relationship, it will pay off trust us, we are your EVO family :D
 
Food log so far:
Pre-lunch:
3 zinger fillets ~ 60g protein, 23g carbs, 600 calories
Before you do peptides or anything else, lets get full bloods done, go for it. IGF1 testosteron e2 lh fsh t3/t4 full bloods, when can you do them? @Rurx7
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This was the package I was going to get. is this fine or should I get more stuff?
 
I crashed out and had 1000 calories of mac and cheese because of study stress. mb gang - imma lock in harder
I avoid this by filling up on red meat. I don’t have boxed food in my house. That’s not something you can control right now maybe, but you can fill up on better stuff ahead of time. If you can successfully get a month of clean eating in you’ll feel and see a real difference. That’s a point where you won’t feel good from cheat meals. It won’t seem like food anymore and you regret eating it. Mac and cheese… isn’t good. There’s science in those cheese powders that work on your brain just like drugs. Pretty gross when you think about it
 
yeah it could just be a cultural difference. where im from parents are seen as negligent if fail to develop their child to their max potential, so thats probably influenced my view.


I still wanna try ghkcu for myself. it has no long term side effects and not everyone gets bad reactions from it. if it can help my acne scarring then im def gonna give it a try.
Ive heard that cjc no dac is safer so i would rather just go with that. I dont want to try multiple hg peptides at once, as I want to see which ones actually work, and which ones give me bad reactions. if I go with ipamorelin, mk, cjc etc all at once then i dont know which ones were effective and which ones cause me issues yknow.
you are your own person. your parents are never going to be able to raise any child to their max. you have to take over at some point
 
Food log so far:
Pre-lunch:
3 zinger fillets ~ 60g protein, 23g carbs, 600 calories

View attachment 109028This was the package I was going to get. is this fine or should I get more stuff?

Lunch:
chicken rice meal ~ 65g protein, 60g carbs, 700 calories
protein shake ~ 30g protein, 3g carbs, 200 calories

Dinner:
500g beef mince ~ 70g protein, 1700 calories
14g olive oil ~ 124 calories
taco seasoning ~ 140 calories

MealProtein (g)Carbs (g)Calories
Pre-lunch6023600
Lunch95 (65+30)63 (60+3)900 (700+200)
Dinner701 964 (1 700+124+140)
Totals225 g86 g3 464 kcal
Im not doing any weight training today so theres no need to go too hard
You need to add some fats to this, whats the fat load and omega 3 load? you need omega 3s to boost HGH
I crashed out and had 1000 calories of mac and cheese because of study stress. mb gang - imma lock in harder
See once you start tracking your food, day to day you realize besides peptides or anything else, food is the issue. @Rurx7
 
You need to add some fats to this, whats the fat load and omega 3 load? you need omega 3s to boost HGH
ok ill start tracking this aswell. I take 600mg omega 3 supplements a day in the form of fish oil, is this enough?
See once you start tracking your food, day to day you realize besides peptides or anything else, food is the issue. @Rurx7
broo food wont fix my acne scarring, I nee tretinoin and ghkcu.
 
Tags for relevent people:
@Npcclassicphysique champ @toddthelineman @stevesmi @LevButlerov @Eddie Haskell
If I missed anyone ive been talking, sorry. Im new so I havent learnt everyones name yet.

I got chatgpt to help me format everything, but the answers are my own.

If I missed anything reply and tell me what other info you would like and i'll let you know.

Beginning of log:

Personal Stats

  • Weight: 72 kg
  • Height: 187 cm
  • Age: 18 (turning 19 in October)
  • Sex: Male
  • Training Experience: 2 years
Goals

  • Primary Goal: Lean mass gain
  • Target Weight: 80 kg (minimizing fat gain)
  • Prep for Kapooka: Train to meet fitness and basic skills requirements for the Australian Army Recruit Training Centre (Kapooka) in early next year (Army Reserve entry)
Cycle History / Plans

  • Current Cycle: None
  • Future Protocols: Considering GHK-Cu, Melanotan 1, potentially CJC-noDAC
Nutrition

  • Estimated Intake: 2,000–3,000 kcal (will track precisely)
  • Meal Timing & Breakdown:
  • Fasted until ~12 pm
  • Snack at lunch (light)
  • Main meal at dinner (largest on weekdays)
  • Saturdays: large lunch, no dinner
  • Dietary Note: Prefers low-bloating foods
Training

  • Split: Push / Pull / Legs (+ core)
  • Frequency: 3–4 sessions/week
  • Duration: ~1–2 hours each
  • Intensity: 3 × 6–8 reps (8 = failure)
Cardio

  • Type: Incline treadmill
  • Duration: 30–60 min/session; 10 min warm-up before leg day
  • Frequency: 3 days/week (aim to increase)
Sleep & Recovery

  • Sleep Duration: ~6 hrs/night
  • Quality: Poor
  • Recovery Practices: None (planning to add stretching, foam-rolling, mobility)
Supplements

  • Fish Oil: 2,000 mg/day
  • Blackmores Probiotics+Daily Health: 1 capsule/day
  • Zinc: 50 mg/day
  • Ashwagandha: 3 g/day
Medical Notes

  • Body Proportions: Long legs, short torso → avoid heavy squat/deadlift per doctor’s advice

Log Entry: 2 August 2025

Training (Leg Day at 10am)

  • 5 min jog (warm-up)
  • Light leg stretching
  • Leg Extensions: 1 warm-up set → 3 × failure @ 102 kg (8 → 5 reps)
  • Hamstring Curls: 1 warm-up set → 3 × failure (weight ~leg extensions)
  • Seated Calf Raises: 2 warm-up sets → 3 × 60 kg
  • Core: Skipped (sister asked me to care for niece)
Nutrition Today (finished as on Saturday I dont have dinner)

  • Rotisserie Chicken whole (Coles): 140–160 g protein
  • Whole Egg Mayonnaise (S&W): 3–4 spoonfuls
  • Grenade High-Protein Bar: 20 g protein
  • YoPRO Protein Cup: 20 g protein
  • Musashi Protein Shake: 30 g protein
  • Pepsi Max: ~2 L



Relevent photos of me:
November 2024, 90kg:
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Yesterday (July 2025), 72kg:
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Both photos are without pump. First photo is after slight cardio.
Nice pics
 
ok ill start tracking this aswell. I take 600mg omega 3 supplements a day in the form of fish oil, is this enough?

broo food wont fix my acne scarring, I nee tretinoin and ghkcu.
You’d be really surprised what food can do man. BLOWN AWAY actually. If I had good before and after pictures of my glow up I would be internet famous. But I believe what Lev is saying is that you really need to have your food (and all of your other foundational practices like sleep and training) dialed in really well before you are going to reap the rewards. That’s very cut and dry when you think about it in simple terms. This is the over all theme we are walking you through. What’s awesome is that you’re going to see for yourself because you’re the 1% who didn’t ghost their own post. You’re actually doing it.

I don’t believe that awkward puberties are entirely natural. I don’t think that if everything is working optimally you are still doomed to facial scarring from puberty. I might be off the rails on this, but I can’t think of any animals in their natural habitat that exhibit these traits, so that always suggests to me that our lifestyles are mucking things up, and we already know that’s true in so many other ways. So it’s certainly not a crazy idea.

There was actually a peptide expert on Chris Duffin’s podcast today, discussing how peptides are utilized when everything else is in place. The Architect of Resilience. Most recent episode. Check it out.

The tretinoin is going to speed up cell turnover in your skin. It’s probably going to work, but are you still getting acne? I had greater than zero acne for my entire adulthood. It’s common in my family, we are just the oiliest white people ever 🤷‍♂️. My head is so shiny I blind my enemies. And ruin pictures hahaha.
 
Nice pics
thank you vro 😤 training to be accepted into agartha

You’d be really surprised what food can do man. BLOWN AWAY actually. If I had good before and after pictures of my glow up I would be internet famous. But I believe what Lev is saying is that you really need to have your food (and all of your other foundational practices like sleep and training) dialed in really well before you are going to reap the rewards. That’s very cut and dry when you think about it in simple terms. This is the over all theme we are walking you through. What’s awesome is that you’re going to see for yourself because you’re the 1% who didn’t ghost their own post. You’re actually doing it.

I don’t believe that awkward puberties are entirely natural. I don’t think that if everything is working optimally you are still doomed to facial scarring from puberty. I might be off the rails on this, but I can’t think of any animals in their natural habitat that exhibit these traits, so that always suggests to me that our lifestyles are mucking things up, and we already know that’s true in so many other ways. So it’s certainly not a crazy idea.

There was actually a peptide expert on Chris Duffin’s podcast today, discussing how peptides are utilized when everything else is in place. The Architect of Resilience. Most recent episode. Check it out.

The tretinoin is going to speed up cell turnover in your skin. It’s probably going to work, but are you still getting acne? I had greater than zero acne for my entire adulthood. It’s common in my family, we are just the oiliest white people ever 🤷‍♂️. My head is so shiny I blind my enemies. And ruin pictures hahaha.
ur right about the diet but I can do both at the same time i guess is how I see it. my growth plates are in the stages of closing (ill found out fully tomorrow when I meet my gp) so im running out of time. If i wait until I have a perfect diet, ill never get to the stage of using peptides to max out my height potential.

I still get acne on my neck and chest. last time it was REALLY bad, and I used tretinoin to get rid of it. I dont want to risk it blowing up again so im going to stop it before it escalates. im also oily lol, I sometimes use matte powder from essence to reduce the shine ~ idk if that makes me gay or anything but its a good trick I use to be more confident.

This is good. Thyroid numbers might be good to know, especially since you recently crash dieted
What would the thyroid numbers tell me in relation to crash dieting?
 
update:
Lunch:
had a chicken, rice avocado meal from my uni's fresh food stand
apparently its all natural and healthily cooked so I dont know if that counts as proper dieting?? its run by the uni on their health campaign...
It had a fuck ton of chicken on it for 10 dollars ~ like 500g but I wouldnt be able to estimate the macros fully cause it had tons of random shit like eggs and beans etc

I also made a protein shake:
2 cups low fat milk
1 scoop protein powder ~ 30g protein
2 banana's

I did a test run for food prepping (I attached the image):
each meal was:
500g beef mince
3 eggs
20g olive oil (drained after reducing the water in the beef, im not sure how much would be left)
1 cup brown rice
1 packet taco seasoning (140 calories)
Calories: 1 934 kcal
Protein: 120.4 g
Fat: 126.0 g
Carbs: 72.2 g



Any suggestions? Id like to increase the protein and carbs without substantially increasing calories
 

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thank you vro 😤 training to be accepted into agartha


ur right about the diet but I can do both at the same time i guess is how I see it. my growth plates are in the stages of closing (ill found out fully tomorrow when I meet my gp) so im running out of time. If i wait until I have a perfect diet, ill never get to the stage of using peptides to max out my height potential.

I still get acne on my neck and chest. last time it was REALLY bad, and I used tretinoin to get rid of it. I dont want to risk it blowing up again so im going to stop it before it escalates. im also oily lol, I sometimes use matte powder from essence to reduce the shine ~ idk if that makes me gay or anything but its a good trick I use to be more confident.


What would the thyroid numbers tell me in relation to crash dieting?
Crash dieting can lower thyroid function. You’d want to know if that happened. I would want to know
 
Push day:
Chest:

Warmup set

60 for 8 (failure)

65 for 4 (failure)

65 for 3 (failure)



Incline dumbbell press:

Warmup set

27.5 for 8 (failure)

27.5 for 6 (failure)



Pec flys:

68 for 7 (failure)

68 for 6 (failure)

61 for 6 (failure)



Smith machine shoulder press:

20 added for 8 (warmup)

30 added for 6 (failure)

30 added for 4 (failure)

25 added for 6 (failure)



Side shoulder flys:

30 for 8 (failure)

30 for 9 (failure)

30 for 8 (failure)



Rear delt flys:

54 for 8 (failure)

61 for 6 (failure)



Rope tricep push down:

30 for 8 (failure)

30 for 7 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)

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Ill just keep uploading pictures every now and then and I guess we will see if any changes occur over time

I also tried one of my mealprepped meals for dinner, tasted pretty good I guess.
 
ok ill start tracking this aswell. I take 600mg omega 3 supplements a day in the form of fish oil, is this enough?

broo food wont fix my acne scarring, I nee tretinoin and ghkcu.
Start up and update us :D
 
Start up and update us :D
With my lunch I take:
1000mg vitamin C
600mg omega-3
2 Cenovis multivitamin and mineral tablets
50micrograms Vitamin D (im not sure on this one the packaging is really confusing, its 2 tablets of of the Swisse Vitamin D)
1 tablet of the LifeSpace digestive enzymes

With my dinner I take:
1200mg calcium
1 blackmores probiotics+ daily health tablet
3g ashwaghanda
50mg zinc (blackmores bio-zince, it has tons of random magnesium shit in it)

ive been doing this since the start of the log, and will continue doing so but wont update everytime as that would be very time consuming
 
With my lunch I take:
1000mg vitamin C
600mg omega-3
2 Cenovis multivitamin and mineral tablets
50micrograms Vitamin D (im not sure on this one the packaging is really confusing, its 2 tablets of of the Swisse Vitamin D)
1 tablet of the LifeSpace digestive enzymes

With my dinner I take:
1200mg calcium
1 blackmores probiotics+ daily health tablet
3g ashwaghanda
50mg zinc (blackmores bio-zince, it has tons of random magnesium shit in it)

ive been doing this since the start of the log, and will continue doing so but wont update everytime as that would be very time consuming
You're using an app to keep food control and recording? you should be, just share app info @Rurx7 we need to see your food daily and training.
 
I also take Psyllium husk and creatine but thats not at lunch or dinner specifically ~ just at some point when I have time to constitute it
Put up pictures of the psyllium you use.
 
got my xray results back... plates are visually fully closed 🙁 no extra height for me....
im still interested in the cjc for muscle growth but im not in such of a rush now for that peptide. I can go a bit slower with MT1 and ghk instead now
Can you share the xray with the EVO family? :) just blur personal info. @Rurx7
 
got my xray results back... plates are visually fully closed 🙁 no extra height for me....

I had to cut out large parts of the top and bottom. Is this fine?
@Rurx7 I'm looking at your X-rays, the growth plates in the wrist area for the radius and ulna look fused. Normally, if they were still open, you’d see a clear dark gap between the end of the bone and the joint surface. In your images, the bone ends blend together with no visible gap, which is what you see once they’ve ossified.
When that happens, it means those plates aren’t going to contribute to more bone length in that area.

You have full blood work with testosterone yet?
 
got my xray results back... plates are visually fully closed 🙁 no extra height for me....
im still interested in the cjc for muscle growth but im not in such of a rush now for that peptide. I can go a bit slower with MT1 and ghk instead now
I didn’t grow noticeably after 18 either. It’s all good! You’ll have bloodwork done soon, then you can decide if you want to run a test booster with your peptides. Things are going to start happening👍
 
@Rurx7 I'm looking at your X-rays, the growth plates in the wrist area for the radius and ulna look fused. Normally, if they were still open, you’d see a clear dark gap between the end of the bone and the joint surface. In your images, the bone ends blend together with no visible gap, which is what you see once they’ve ossified.
When that happens, it means those plates aren’t going to contribute to more bone length in that area.

You have full blood work with testosterone yet?
Just ordered it, will get blood drawn tomorrow morning. Ive been fasted since around 6pm so it should be accurate.

Hit back and biceps aswell ~ did around 600 calories of cardio afterwards
 
Just ordered it, will get blood drawn tomorrow morning. Ive been fasted since around 6pm so it should be accurate.
Update us after.
Hit back and biceps aswell ~ did around 600 calories of cardio afterwards
what did you actually do? exercises
and food?
 
Update us after.

what did you actually do? exercises
and food?
Deadlift:

60 for 10 (failure)

70 for 8 (failure)

70 for 6 (failure)



Lat pull:

45 for 10 (warmup)

55 for 8 (failure)

55 for 7 (failure)



Tilted shoulder raises:

30 for 10 (failure)

30 for 8 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)



Bar bicep curl:

25 for 8 (failure)

25 for 6 (failure)

25 for 6 (failure)



Seated bicep curl:

25 for 9 (failure)

25 for 8 (failure)

dinner was the prep meal I talked about before, also had a 30g protein shake
 
just got back from the physio, I have my list of workouts to do to help my rounded shoulders. Turns out that I have a muscle inbalance. my shoulder blades are swung out and one is higher than the other. he says that by training those muscles I can help it. he also said that peptides could help increase the speed of recovery, but he couldnt advise on the side effects ~ which is fair enough
 
Deadlift:

60 for 10 (failure)

70 for 8 (failure)

70 for 6 (failure)



Lat pull:

45 for 10 (warmup)

55 for 8 (failure)

55 for 7 (failure)



Tilted shoulder raises:

30 for 10 (failure)

30 for 8 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)



Bar bicep curl:

25 for 8 (failure)

25 for 6 (failure)

25 for 6 (failure)



Seated bicep curl:

25 for 9 (failure)

25 for 8 (failure)

dinner was the prep meal I talked about before, also had a 30g protein shake
That’s killer, you took all those to failure. That really good for you right now. Drive hunger and rest.
 
Spent time doing the exercises the physio wants me to do, trying to learn how to do them properly:
Face pulls:

13.6 for 10 (failure)

13.6 for 8 (failure)

13.6 for 10 (failure)

15.9 for 6 (failure)



Lat pull downs neutral grip:

60 for 9 (failure)

70 for 5 (failure)

70 for 6 (failure)



Shrugs:

30 for 10 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)



Tbar row:

20 for 6 (failure)

20 for 5 (failure)

20 for 6 (failure)


The image I attached looks weird cause I had to stretch to make the underlying bone visible, but the right bone is lower than the left one. I need to do these workouts to pull it up in the correct alignment.
 

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Deadlift:

60 for 10 (failure)

70 for 8 (failure)

70 for 6 (failure)



Lat pull:

45 for 10 (warmup)

55 for 8 (failure)

55 for 7 (failure)



Tilted shoulder raises:

30 for 10 (failure)

30 for 8 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)



Bar bicep curl:

25 for 8 (failure)

25 for 6 (failure)

25 for 6 (failure)



Seated bicep curl:

25 for 9 (failure)

25 for 8 (failure)

dinner was the prep meal I talked about before, also had a 30g protein shake

Spent time doing the exercises the physio wants me to do, trying to learn how to do them properly:
Face pulls:

13.6 for 10 (failure)

13.6 for 8 (failure)

13.6 for 10 (failure)

15.9 for 6 (failure)



Lat pull downs neutral grip:

60 for 9 (failure)

70 for 5 (failure)

70 for 6 (failure)



Shrugs:

30 for 10 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)



Tbar row:

20 for 6 (failure)

20 for 5 (failure)

20 for 6 (failure)


The image I attached looks weird cause I had to stretch to make the underlying bone visible, but the right bone is lower than the left one. I need to do these workouts to pull it up in the correct alignment.
training is good but what do you mean failure? you need to get more reps in there dont use all weights to failure

and i am looking at your food, your lunch, i dont understand choc coat vanilla is what?

just got back from the physio, I have my list of workouts to do to help my rounded shoulders. Turns out that I have a muscle inbalance. my shoulder blades are swung out and one is higher than the other. he says that by training those muscles I can help it. he also said that peptides could help increase the speed of recovery, but he couldnt advise on the side effects ~ which is fair enough
pysio overplay a ton brother ;) @Rurx7
 
Spent time doing the exercises the physio wants me to do, trying to learn how to do them properly:
Face pulls:

13.6 for 10 (failure)

13.6 for 8 (failure)

13.6 for 10 (failure)

15.9 for 6 (failure)



Lat pull downs neutral grip:

60 for 9 (failure)

70 for 5 (failure)

70 for 6 (failure)



Shrugs:

30 for 10 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)



Tbar row:

20 for 6 (failure)

20 for 5 (failure)

20 for 6 (failure)


The image I attached looks weird cause I had to stretch to make the underlying bone visible, but the right bone is lower than the left one. I need to do these workouts to pull it up in the correct alignment.
@Rurx7 wow nice job on this. i like how you include to failure. that is a good way to push the body
 
Spent time doing the exercises the physio wants me to do, trying to learn how to do them properly:
Face pulls:

13.6 for 10 (failure)

13.6 for 8 (failure)

13.6 for 10 (failure)

15.9 for 6 (failure)



Lat pull downs neutral grip:

60 for 9 (failure)

70 for 5 (failure)

70 for 6 (failure)



Shrugs:

30 for 10 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)



Tbar row:

20 for 6 (failure)

20 for 5 (failure)

20 for 6 (failure)


The image I attached looks weird cause I had to stretch to make the underlying bone visible, but the right bone is lower than the left one. I need to do these workouts to pull it up in the correct alignment.
@Rurx7 this is a nice workout for sure. pushing some good exercises. i like it a lot
 
Spent time doing the exercises the physio wants me to do, trying to learn how to do them properly:
Face pulls:

13.6 for 10 (failure)

13.6 for 8 (failure)

13.6 for 10 (failure)

15.9 for 6 (failure)



Lat pull downs neutral grip:

60 for 9 (failure)

70 for 5 (failure)

70 for 6 (failure)



Shrugs:

30 for 10 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)



Tbar row:

20 for 6 (failure)

20 for 5 (failure)

20 for 6 (failure)


The image I attached looks weird cause I had to stretch to make the underlying bone visible, but the right bone is lower than the left one. I need to do these workouts to pull it up in the correct alignment.
@Rurx7 the shrugs and tbar rows are tremendous. this is a solid session and shows how hard you are working
 
Spent time doing the exercises the physio wants me to do, trying to learn how to do them properly:
Face pulls:

13.6 for 10 (failure)

13.6 for 8 (failure)

13.6 for 10 (failure)

15.9 for 6 (failure)



Lat pull downs neutral grip:

60 for 9 (failure)

70 for 5 (failure)

70 for 6 (failure)



Shrugs:

30 for 10 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)



Tbar row:

20 for 6 (failure)

20 for 5 (failure)

20 for 6 (failure)


The image I attached looks weird cause I had to stretch to make the underlying bone visible, but the right bone is lower than the left one. I need to do these workouts to pull it up in the correct alignment.
@Rurx7 the shrugs and tbar rows are on point. the training is pushing hard. very odd the alignment thing. maybe try stretching more
 
Spent time doing the exercises the physio wants me to do, trying to learn how to do them properly:
Face pulls:

13.6 for 10 (failure)

13.6 for 8 (failure)

13.6 for 10 (failure)

15.9 for 6 (failure)



Lat pull downs neutral grip:

60 for 9 (failure)

70 for 5 (failure)

70 for 6 (failure)



Shrugs:

30 for 10 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)



Tbar row:

20 for 6 (failure)

20 for 5 (failure)

20 for 6 (failure)


The image I attached looks weird cause I had to stretch to make the underlying bone visible, but the right bone is lower than the left one. I need to do these workouts to pull it up in the correct alignment.
bro this a good layout on workout. best thing for alignment a nice kick to back. only way to beat it out of you @Rurx7
 
Great job bro. Probably 1 in a million young men ever get to know where they were at when they were young and healthy
 
yeah but I wish I didnt know lol. only have 450 test is cooked. the PED demon is infecting my brain with the allure of trt ~ I know its stupid and I never would but still its nagging at me
Nonono. We understand! But of course TRT is a non starter for you right now. You’ve not got your sleep dialed in yet, so we already knew you weren’t going to be optimal. If anything you’re doing pretty good, all things considered, not too bad! There are huge, strong, masculine dudes walking around with clinically low testosterone that say they feel fine. So at know the number isn’t the whole story.
 
Nonono. We understand! But of course TRT is a non starter for you right now. You’ve not got your sleep dialed in yet, so we already knew you weren’t going to be optimal. If anything you’re doing pretty good, all things considered, not too bad! There are huge, strong, masculine dudes walking around with clinically low testosterone that say they feel fine. So at know the number isn’t the whole story.
ur right, imma start with cjc, ipamorelin and natural test boosters and when im older and already had kids (so I no longer need my fertility) I can start trt. I just got a mini fridge so i can make my first order. Im gonna ask my dermitologist if she can prescribe me ghkcu to inject, and then ill place an order for the peptides, and hopefull get the ghkcu from the pharmacy. I just got a minifridge so im fully ready to go
 
Spent time doing the exercises the physio wants me to do, trying to learn how to do them properly:
Face pulls:

13.6 for 10 (failure)

13.6 for 8 (failure)

13.6 for 10 (failure)

15.9 for 6 (failure)



Lat pull downs neutral grip:

60 for 9 (failure)

70 for 5 (failure)

70 for 6 (failure)



Shrugs:

30 for 10 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)



Tbar row:

20 for 6 (failure)

20 for 5 (failure)

20 for 6 (failure)


The image I attached looks weird cause I had to stretch to make the underlying bone visible, but the right bone is lower than the left one. I need to do these workouts to pull it up in the correct alignment.
bros that some crazy stuff with the bone alignment. @Rurx7 hopefully it get fixed eventually. you will look good if you do
 
ur right, imma start with cjc, ipamorelin and natural test boosters and when im older and already had kids (so I no longer need my fertility) I can start trt. I just got a mini fridge so i can make my first order. Im gonna ask my dermitologist if she can prescribe me ghkcu to inject, and then ill place an order for the peptides, and hopefull get the ghkcu from the pharmacy. I just got a minifridge so im fully ready to go
@Rurx7 you don't need any peptides at all, a testosterone booster is fine, fadogia based to start like HCGenerate.
Why do you insist on peptides?
 
Why do you insist on peptides?
well I want to do ghkcu, selank and semax either way for their benefits. Those are kinda non-negotiable for me. cjc/ipamorelin im happy to push back but I dont see the harm in starting sooner. The sooner I start the sooner I get the benefits, and theyre not harmful :ninja:
 
well I want to do ghkcu, selank and semax either way for their benefits. Those are kinda non-negotiable for me. cjc/ipamorelin im happy to push back but I dont see the harm in starting sooner. The sooner I start the sooner I get the benefits, and theyre not harmful :ninja:
I’m curious to see what you get out of them. I do recall my skin and hair improved on ghk, but I was throwing the kitchen sink at it already. I had a very affordable ghk source that no longer exists so I just stopped. I do sincerely think that those secretagogues are at best redundant for a man your age, and sleep sleep sleep will give you what you need more than money can buy, and the key to that good sleep is routine and increasingly hard training. Make yourself tired and you will sleep and your body will adapt. The routine is very important. You can find men in American prisons who are definitely not on drugs that look as good, actually much better, than most people on steroids. It’s because of the massive benefits of a perfect routine and they have plenty of time to rest. I’m using this example as a sort of analogy. I know you aren’t looking to be some shocking hulk that scares people, but you can use other’s more extreme results to show you what is truly possible. And again, all the peptides in the world really won’t do much without the basics. This is a hard concept to fully embrace because we are brainwashed to buy products. But it’s the truth. 90%or more of what you are trying to achieve is already within you, you just need to activate it.
 
well I want to do ghkcu, selank and semax either way for their benefits. Those are kinda non-negotiable for me. cjc/ipamorelin im happy to push back but I dont see the harm in starting sooner. The sooner I start the sooner I get the benefits, and theyre not harmful :ninja:
You should push back because you've made no updates to the log that look like you're making lifestyle changes.
I still don't see you moving food or training up, nothing is happening. Training is 5-6 days per week but we not seeing it. @Rurx7
 
I’m curious to see what you get out of them. I do recall my skin and hair improved on ghk, but I was throwing the kitchen sink at it already. I had a very affordable ghk source that no longer exists so I just stopped. I do sincerely think that those secretagogues are at best redundant for a man your age, and sleep sleep sleep will give you what you need more than money can buy, and the key to that good sleep is routine and increasingly hard training. Make yourself tired and you will sleep and your body will adapt. The routine is very important. You can find men in American prisons who are definitely not on drugs that look as good, actually much better, than most people on steroids. It’s because of the massive benefits of a perfect routine and they have plenty of time to rest. I’m using this example as a sort of analogy. I know you aren’t looking to be some shocking hulk that scares people, but you can use other’s more extreme results to show you what is truly possible. And again, all the peptides in the world really won’t do much without the basics. This is a hard concept to fully embrace because we are brainwashed to buy products. But it’s the truth. 90%or more of what you are trying to achieve is already within you, you just need to activate it.
Exactly :D preach it @toddthelineman
 
Spent time doing the exercises the physio wants me to do, trying to learn how to do them properly:
Face pulls:

13.6 for 10 (failure)

13.6 for 8 (failure)

13.6 for 10 (failure)

15.9 for 6 (failure)



Lat pull downs neutral grip:

60 for 9 (failure)

70 for 5 (failure)

70 for 6 (failure)



Shrugs:

30 for 10 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)



Tbar row:

20 for 6 (failure)

20 for 5 (failure)

20 for 6 (failure)


The image I attached looks weird cause I had to stretch to make the underlying bone visible, but the right bone is lower than the left one. I need to do these workouts to pull it up in the correct alignment.
@Rurx7 stay on that grind brother!
 
Spent time doing the exercises the physio wants me to do, trying to learn how to do them properly:
Face pulls:

13.6 for 10 (failure)

13.6 for 8 (failure)

13.6 for 10 (failure)

15.9 for 6 (failure)



Lat pull downs neutral grip:

60 for 9 (failure)

70 for 5 (failure)

70 for 6 (failure)



Shrugs:

30 for 10 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)



Tbar row:

20 for 6 (failure)

20 for 5 (failure)

20 for 6 (failure)


The image I attached looks weird cause I had to stretch to make the underlying bone visible, but the right bone is lower than the left one. I need to do these workouts to pull it up in the correct alignment.
When my neck and back were all jacked up, physio had me doing face pulls, flashers, a few other things. It was light bands, but I did them multiple times a day and because of the injuries and how long I couldn’t do anything it would get really sore and it HURT. But it didn’t take long before you could really see the muscles getting defined again, and it pulled my posture into a position that didn’t continuously irritate the herniated discs in my neck, allowing them to heal, somewhat. They know what they are talking about. Stay focused!
 
I’m curious to see what you get out of them. I do recall my skin and hair improved on ghk, but I was throwing the kitchen sink at it already. I had a very affordable ghk source that no longer exists so I just stopped. I do sincerely think that those secretagogues are at best redundant for a man your age, and sleep sleep sleep will give you what you need more than money can buy, and the key to that good sleep is routine and increasingly hard training. Make yourself tired and you will sleep and your body will adapt. The routine is very important. You can find men in American prisons who are definitely not on drugs that look as good, actually much better, than most people on steroids. It’s because of the massive benefits of a perfect routine and they have plenty of time to rest. I’m using this example as a sort of analogy. I know you aren’t looking to be some shocking hulk that scares people, but you can use other’s more extreme results to show you what is truly possible. And again, all the peptides in the world really won’t do much without the basics. This is a hard concept to fully embrace because we are brainwashed to buy products. But it’s the truth. 90%or more of what you are trying to achieve is already within you, you just need to activate it.
sleep is something ive been trying to improve. ive been consistently getting 7-8 hours every night in comparison to my previous 4-6 and I can already feel the difference. honestly the mood benefits alone have made it worth it, im way less iritable. Im lucky enough to be in a position where I have a lot of money due to a job I got due to my brain so im hoping to do peptides that might have an ROI. selank and semax will help me make more sales and do better at Uni. ghkcu will help me be more confident and hopefully get a gf, then wife and then hopefully kids (my ultimate goal).

You should push back because you've made no updates to the log that look like you're making lifestyle changes.
I still don't see you moving food or training up, nothing is happening. Training is 5-6 days per week but we not seeing it. @Rurx7
broo ive done every day except for yesterday because ive been busy. Do you want me to @ you when I post them?


@Rurx7 stay on that grind brother!
Thanks bro


When my neck and back were all jacked up, physio had me doing face pulls, flashers, a few other things. It was light bands, but I did them multiple times a day and because of the injuries and how long I couldn’t do anything it would get really sore and it HURT. But it didn’t take long before you could really see the muscles getting defined again, and it pulled my posture into a position that didn’t continuously irritate the herniated discs in my neck, allowing them to heal, somewhat. They know what they are talking about. Stay focused!
yep, this is my main priority at the moment. I dont know how my back got this fucked but im guessing its been a sedintary lifestyle.
 
broo ive done every day except for yesterday because ive been busy. Do you want me to @ you when I post them?
Yes please @ me because I see this last one, and I think main thing there your protein is low vs carbs.
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-before-trying-injections.105987/post-1804974
Spent time doing the exercises the physio wants me to do, trying to learn how to do them properly:
Face pulls:

13.6 for 10 (failure)

13.6 for 8 (failure)

13.6 for 10 (failure)

15.9 for 6 (failure)



Lat pull downs neutral grip:

60 for 9 (failure)

70 for 5 (failure)

70 for 6 (failure)



Shrugs:

30 for 10 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)



Tbar row:

20 for 6 (failure)

20 for 5 (failure)

20 for 6 (failure)


The image I attached looks weird cause I had to stretch to make the underlying bone visible, but the right bone is lower than the left one. I need to do these workouts to pull it up in the correct alignment.

For a 20 year old this blood work is pretty underwhelming.
Urea is high which can mean dehydration or kidney stress and RCC is low showing red cell production is off.
Testosterone is only mid range for your age and SHBG is low which can be linked to metabolic or hormonal issues.
Magnesium is borderline low and LDL is higher than the ideal range for someone this young which is not a good sign for long term heart health.
Free test is decent but still not great for a 20 year old and prolactin is in range but nothing special.
The lipid profile shows LDL creeping up and HDL is barely above the minimum so the cholesterol balance is not optimal.
Overall the labs show you are not in crisis but for a 20 year old male you should be performing much better on almost every marker and these numbers point to lifestyle and diet changes being needed now.

We need to work on your diet and training and sleep and supplements and stress way more.
 
sleep is something ive been trying to improve. ive been consistently getting 7-8 hours every night in comparison to my previous 4-6 and I can already feel the difference. honestly the mood benefits alone have made it worth it, im way less iritable. Im lucky enough to be in a position where I have a lot of money due to a job I got due to my brain so im hoping to do peptides that might have an ROI. selank and semax will help me make more sales and do better at Uni. ghkcu will help me be more confident and hopefully get a gf, then wife and then hopefully kids (my ultimate goal).


broo ive done every day except for yesterday because ive been busy. Do you want me to @ you when I post them?



Thanks bro



yep, this is my main priority at the moment. I dont know how my back got this fucked but im guessing it’s been a sedintary lifestyle
You’re doing it. Your whole life is going to start trending upwards! Your workouts will start improving rapidly I think and you’ll start seeing changes, it will seem too slow but when you look back it will be fast
 
You’re doing it. Your whole life is going to start trending upwards! Your workouts will start improving rapidly I think and you’ll start seeing changes, it will seem too slow but when you look back it will be fast
nah bro it needs to be quicker. every day theres less and less cathfoids cause they get swooped up by chad. I need to ascend quickly
 
@LevButlerov

Linear leg press

40 for 8 (warmup)

60 for 15 (close to failure)

80 for 10 (close to failure)

100 for 4 (failure)



Calf raises seated:

60 for 12 (failure)

60 for 10 (failure)

60 for 8 (failure)



Seated hamstring curls:

75 for 7 (failure)

75 for 6 (failure)

75 for 5 (failure)
 

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nah bro it needs to be quicker. every day theres less and less cathfoids cause they get swooped up by chad. I need to ascend quickly
Well idk about that but I can pick up a used but nice catholic chick off any dating app up here no problem. There’s like a billion of them.
I grew up going to Spanish mass. Basically all latinas are catholic, so if Sydney doesn’t provide for you, let your work take you abroad. I have a Mexican cousin who looks like a movie star (several actually) she picked an enterprising man from London, he smart, short, ok looking but very driven. You’ll ascend as fast as you are willing to work, with the patience to let that work solidify.
 
Well idk about that but I can pick up a used but nice catholic chick off any dating app up here no problem. There’s like a billion of them.
I grew up going to Spanish mass. Basically all latinas are catholic, so if Sydney doesn’t provide for you, let your work take you abroad. I have a Mexican cousin who looks like a movie star (several actually) she picked an enterprising man from London, he smart, short, ok looking but very driven. You’ll ascend as fast as you are willing to work, with the patience to let that work solidify.
My father subjected me to a rigorous yet cruel education in my youth. I learnt that we march to victory, or we march to defeat, but we march forward, only forward. These women may be catholic in their words, but their souls have greyed, from years of opulence and degenerative decay. I have forbade myself from such degeneracy in my quest to march forward. I have said no to going to the club, to getting high with "friends", to sleep with women of low morals. I am preparing myself such that I am worthy of a woman who is not... as you described... "used".

I must date a woman my age, however this will only be possible if I ascend in a short period of time. This presents a duty and natural obligation to accelerate my growth. Great or small, we must do our duty, no?
 
nah bro it needs to be quicker. every day theres less and less cathfoids cause they get swooped up by chad. I need to ascend quickly
The truth is, the hardest thing about finding your future wife isn’t going to be how pretty of a peacock you can become. It’s going to be getting yourself out there and displaying confidence. You’ve got money, you’ve got brains, you’re not bar far disgusting. You’re actually ahead of most young men by a decent margin. So where are you meeting girls RIGHT NOW? Are you talking to any girls? This is a huge huge huge difference I see between our generations. I grew up with no cell phones. I met women “in the wild”. If you can find a way to do that and bypass the digital courtship, find a woman that isn’t addicted to social media. My favorite “type” are nerdy girls. The librarian type. The ones that don’t even know they are hot.
 
My father subjected me to a rigorous yet cruel education in my youth. I learnt that we march to victory, or we march to defeat, but we march forward, only forward. These women may be catholic in their words, but their souls have greyed, from years of opulence and degenerative decay. I have forbade myself from such degeneracy in my quest to march forward. I have said no to going to the club, to getting high with "friends", to sleep with women of low morals. I am preparing myself such that I am worthy of a woman who is not... as you described... "used".

I must date a woman my age, however this will only be possible if I ascend in a short period of time. This presents a duty and natural obligation to accelerate my growth. Great or small, we must do our duty, no?
YOU SHOULD GO TO MEXICO
 
The truth is, the hardest thing about finding your future wife isn’t going to be how pretty of a peacock you can become. It’s going to be getting yourself out there and displaying confidence. You’ve got money, you’ve got brains, you’re not bar far disgusting. You’re actually ahead of most young men by a decent margin. So where are you meeting girls RIGHT NOW? Are you talking to any girls? This is a huge huge huge difference I see between our generations. I grew up with no cell phones. I met women “in the wild”. If you can find a way to do that and bypass the digital courtship, find a woman that isn’t addicted to social media. My favorite “type” are nerdy girls. The librarian type. The ones that don’t even know they are hot.
I have had women of low moral character ask for my insta, snapchat, go on dates etc but I said no for obvious reasons. I talk to tons of women, in real life im actually quite confident and charismatic. the issue is that the women who would make marriage worth it are in very short supply. And they have fierce competition.
YOU SHOULD GO TO MEXICO
I am European by blood. My family would never permit me to mix regardless of the womans moral or religious standing.
 
I have had women of low moral character ask for my insta, snapchat, go on dates etc but I said no for obvious reasons. I talk to tons of women, in real life im actually quite confident and charismatic. the issue is that the women who would make marriage worth it are in very short supply. And they have fierce competition.

I am European by blood. My family would never permit me to mix regardless of the womans moral or religious standing.
That’s a shame, because what you are looking for, catholic, very strong family values, loyalty, all are built into their culture. I have two half Mexican sisters that look just as white as me. One even has blond hair and blue eyes.
 
That’s a shame, because what you are looking for, catholic, very strong family values, loyalty, all are built into their culture. I have two half Mexican sisters that look just as white as me. One even has blond hair and blue eyes.
I have often thought about utilising my strong passport as you would have me do, but my family expects me to maintain the blood. I have a duty to myself, but first to my family and people 🙁. You may not understand as America is a melting pot of races and the films tend to promote the betryal of kin, but in my country it is most frowned upon.
 
I have had women of low moral character ask for my insta, snapchat, go on dates etc but I said no for obvious reasons. I talk to tons of women, in real life im actually quite confident and charismatic. the issue is that the women who would make marriage worth it are in very short supply. And they have fierce competition.

I am European by blood. My family would never permit me to mix regardless of the womans moral or religious standing.
Do you know any women that you would consider worthy? I get a little cringe when I hear people start talking about moral character. Be careful of appearances, young man. Often, those that put on the best show are hiding the darkest secrets. The truth is, we all have a dark side. If you go putting women, or anyone, on a pedestal you are going to be disappointed. At some point, you may be better off with a chick who has an issue or two that she’s up front about, rather than the “perfect” chick who’s secretly a monster
 
Do you know any women that you would consider worthy? I get a little cringe when I hear people start talking about moral character. Be careful of appearances, young man. Often, those that put on the best show are hiding the darkest secrets. The truth is, we all have a dark side. If you go putting women, or anyone, on a pedestal you are going to be disappointed. At some point, you may be better off with a chick who has an issue or two that she’s up front about, rather than the “perfect” chick who’s secretly a monster
I like to think that theres another woman out there who has a similar mindset. I may never find her, and in that case, its better to not marry than to marry someone who will cheat on you and take half your things. Im naturally distrusting so I dont think I would ever place someone on a pedastal. I know that we all have dark sides, I dont think she has to be perfect, but she has to at least work towards it. she cant be living a life thats directly opposed to it.
 
I have often thought about utilising my strong passport as you would have me do, but my family expects me to maintain the blood. I have a duty to myself, but first to my family and people 🙁. You may not understand as America is a melting pot of races and the films tend to promote the betryal of kin, but in my country it is most frowned upon.
Eh. More genetic variation is generally a good thing. But I suppose if everyone bred their Pits with their Shepards there would be no more Shepards and Pits. Even if it is ultimately better for the health of the breed.

Even up here you get the most awkward weirdos saying the dumbest things when you have a kid that doesn’t look like you. It’s like they just can’t stop the stupid from overflowing out of their mouths.

But It’sa personal choice, imo. I personally am attracted to women who are exotic to me. I like a white girl as much as anyone else, vanilla ice cream is also good, I wouldn’t turn it down. But a little more flavor would be better🤷‍♂️
 
I like to think that theres another woman out there who has a similar mindset. I may never find her, and in that case, it’s better to not marry than to marry someone who will cheat on you and take half your things. Im naturally distrusting so I dont think I would ever place someone on a pedastal. I know that we all have dark sides, I dont think she has to be perfect, but she has to at least work towards it. she cant be living a life thats directly opposed to it.
she’s out there for sure
 
I like to think that theres another woman out there who has a similar mindset. I may never find her, and in that case, it’s better to not marry than to marry someone who will cheat on you and take half your things. Im naturally distrusting so I dont think I would ever place someone on a pedastal. I know that we all have dark sides, I dont think she has to be perfect, but she has to at least work towards it. she cant be living a life thats directly opposed to it.
she’s out there for sure
 
i guess we will find out. Theres already a girl I have my eye on but I cant show my face until I have ascended enough. I need to hurry up and get on peptides. Next pay day im def gonna place an order. It feels wrong to pull from my emergency fund for this but I may if the dermitologist tells me to just send it for the ghkcu. Im a bit broke rn cause I just bought a new car, minifridge and car insurance... rip
 
i guess we will find out. Theres already a girl I have my eye on but I cant show my face until I have ascended enough. I need to hurry up and get on peptides. Next pay day im def gonna place an order. It feels wrong to pull from my emergency fund for this but I may if the dermitologist tells me to just send it for the ghkcu. Im a bit broke rn cause I just bought a new car, minifridge and car insurance... rip
Yes, don’t pull from the emergency fund. It’s not an emergency! You’re fine, I say run what you brung. Talk to her now before someone else does. You are going to be underwhelmed by the peptides, I can assure you. They’ll do stuff, but it’s just icing on the cake. You won’t be that much more confident in a few months with ghk than you are now, and if the 2% improvement you get will make or break your chances with this woman, you are already doomed. Send it.
 
Yes, don’t pull from the emergency fund. It’s not an emergency! You’re fine, I say run what you brung. Talk to her now before someone else does. You are going to be underwhelmed by the peptides, I can assure you. They’ll do stuff, but it’s just icing on the cake. You won’t be that much more confident in a few months with ghk than you are now, and if the 2% improvement you get will make or break your chances with this woman, you are already doomed. Send it.
Shes already talking to another guy ~ not dating, just talking. the thing is, that guy is kind a weirdo (you know the type, just weird vibes), he is super short ~ 5 foot 5 or similar, and doing a shitty arts degree. I want to talk to her and "steal" her but it feels wrong.
 
Shes already talking to another guy ~ not dating, just talking. the thing is, that guy is kind a weirdo (you know the type, just weird vibes), he is super short ~ 5 foot 5 or similar, and doing a shitty arts degree. I want to talk to her and "steal" her but it feels wrong.
Boy you better get your girl! All is fair in love and war. You gonna to let a short guy get your girl? He will! Ask my dad he’s short af hahaha

I’m not your best mentor in love but I know that. You’ve got to get yourself out there and if you like a girl you’ve got to get her attention and let her know you’re interested. You have a ton of advantages that I didn’t have when I was your age. I was just cute, and kinda smart, but I was a wreck, basically homeless for a minute, bouncing from couch to couch. I learned to use women for the things I needed and I ruined my relationships with several women who I could have built a beautiful family with. When I finally did settle down it was because the chick said she was on birth control and she was not. But I am in my deepest heart an honest person who will take responsibility so I married her, had another, raised the kids and got divorced after ten years. Eventually I was a single father. My kids are older than you and they live with me still, more or less, and are well on their way to becoming successful adults.

Being single in my thirties was very eye opening. Do not, under any circumstance, think that this can’t happen to you. Women have a way of changing. Make sure you can adapt and don’t put yourself in a position that will make you bitter for decades wether you become divorced or not.
 
Boy you better get your girl! All is fair in love and war. You gonna to let a short guy get your girl? He will! Ask my dad he’s short af hahaha

I’m not your best mentor in love but I know that. You’ve got to get yourself out there and if you like a girl you’ve got to get her attention and let her know you’re interested. You have a ton of advantages that I didn’t have when I was your age. I was just cute, and kinda smart, but I was a wreck, basically homeless for a minute, bouncing from couch to couch. I learned to use women for the things I needed and I ruined my relationships with several women who I could have built a beautiful family with. When I finally did settle down it was because the chick said she was on birth control and she was not. But I am in my deepest heart an honest person who will take responsibility so I married her, had another, raised the kids and got divorced after ten years. Eventually I was a single father. My kids are older than you and they live with me still, more or less, and are well on their way to becoming successful adults.

Being single in my thirties was very eye opening. Do not, under any circumstance, think that this can’t happen to you. Women have a way of changing. Make sure you can adapt and don’t put yourself in a position that will make you bitter for decades wether you become divorced or not.
Yeah I might go for it. See what happens. I need to pass the initial army screening so I will be cutting a bit, I could overlap that with talking to her to maximise my chances
 
Yeah I might go for it. See what happens. I need to pass the initial army screening so I will be cutting a bit, I could overlap that with talking to her to maximise my chances
Straight up, man, we used to just try to talk to the girls right away. If you could get her home phone number you had a chance. You’d have to call her house and maybe her dad would answer. We wrote letters too. My high school sweet heart and I wound up at different schools. We wrote to each other a lot and would bring the letters we wrote while we couldn’t talk. With little drawings and little gifts and things. It was better times I really believe it. But there needs to be a comeback, because all this digital shit is whack. It’s really messing with people and their interpersonal relationships. I have some of these things to this day and I cherish them, even though we eventually didn’t see eye to eye.
 
Good work
 
Straight up, man, we used to just try to talk to the girls right away. If you could get her home phone number you had a chance. You’d have to call her house and maybe her dad would answer. We wrote letters too. My high school sweet heart and I wound up at different schools. We wrote to each other a lot and would bring the letters we wrote while we couldn’t talk. With little drawings and little gifts and things. It was better times I really believe it. But there needs to be a comeback, because all this digital shit is whack. It’s really messing with people and their interpersonal relationships. I have some of these things to this day and I cherish them, even though we eventually didn’t see eye to eye.
nah bro modern day is way better. I wouldnt survive without tiktok edits and telegram
 
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No gym today, too busy with work and study. Diet is attached, I also had two cubes of homemade chocolate that I’m remembering just now. I just got my military medical back and I passed so I’m going to be ramping up cardio a lot more ~ sorry I know you guys are gym bros but I need to be fit for army reserve training
 

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@LevButlerov

No gym today, too busy with work and study. Diet is attached, I also had two cubes of homemade chocolate that I’m remembering just now. I just got my military medical back and I passed so I’m going to be ramping up cardio a lot more ~ sorry I know you guys are gym bros but I need to be fit for army reserve training
I like cardio. Nothing wrong with it! I get a lot in at work but when I don’t I like to run a mile or so. What’s your goal, like what do you need to be able to do for the army? 5k? What time?
 
I like cardio. Nothing wrong with it! I get a lot in at work but when I don’t I like to run a mile or so. What’s your goal, like what do you need to be able to do for the army? 5k? What time?
I need to do 7.5 on the beep test, its very light. But im told we do 4k jogs in semi-kit whilst at training.

6 weeks after enlistment (which will be soon) I will have to do a pre-entry fitness test where I also need to do 7.5 on the beep test. I honestly have no clue where im at right now so tomorrow ill set out the cones, a speaker and do the test to find out. If I go to army training in january, would that be enough time to be proficient enough in a 4km run? presume that im starting at point zero although im probs not because ive been doing gym cardio for a while now
 
I need to do 7.5 on the beep test, its very light. But im told we do 4k jogs in semi-kit whilst at training.

6 weeks after enlistment (which will be soon) I will have to do a pre-entry fitness test where I also need to do 7.5 on the beep test. I honestly have no clue where im at right now so tomorrow ill set out the cones, a speaker and do the test to find out. If I go to army training in january, would that be enough time to be proficient enough in a 4km run? presume that im starting at point zero although im probs not because ive been doing gym cardio for a while now
Yes I would think that’s plenty of time. I’m not familiar with the beep test, and I’m a strictly recreational runner. I used to run with my boxing partner, I had to quit smoking and start running all at once, my endurance ramped up quickly. Yours will too. You’ll be sore, but personally when I’m into a big cardio kick I do it every day. I run through the soreness. Run a little further every day, eat even more, enjoy the sleep
 
Spent time doing the exercises the physio wants me to do, trying to learn how to do them properly:
Face pulls:

13.6 for 10 (failure)

13.6 for 8 (failure)

13.6 for 10 (failure)

15.9 for 6 (failure)



Lat pull downs neutral grip:

60 for 9 (failure)

70 for 5 (failure)

70 for 6 (failure)



Shrugs:

30 for 10 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)

30 for 6 (failure)



Tbar row:

20 for 6 (failure)

20 for 5 (failure)

20 for 6 (failure)


The image I attached looks weird cause I had to stretch to make the underlying bone visible, but the right bone is lower than the left one. I need to do these workouts to pull it up in the correct alignment.
@Rurx7 nice work man. Keep after it you’re doing great.
 
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