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PEDtest kits are junk - here’s proof

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PEDtest uses a business model that relies on fear-mongering of the underground PED market. Their tests have frequently produced false negatives and they use these results to scare their customers into buying more of their junk kits.

Here’s a perfect example of this, with the presence test of Methenolone Enanthate indicating this vial of Primo 200 is bunk:
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However, I recently sent a sample from the same vial off to Jano for testing. The results contradicting the PEDtest:
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Now, if you only had access to the PEDtest, you might have ended up binning the Primo or calling out the vendor (I did this at the time, guilty as charged, but fuck you PEDtest).

PEDtest kits are junk and if you get a negative result it does not mean your gear is bunk. PEDtest would have you believe the underground PED market in Aus is saturated with bunk products, but independent Jano testing of current verified vendors on Evo would indicate the opposite.

Stay safe and get strong legends 💪
 
PEDtest uses a business model that relies on fear-mongering of the underground PED market. Their tests have frequently produced false negatives and they use these results to scare their customers into buying more of their junk kits.

Here’s a perfect example of this, with the presence test of Methenolone Enanthate indicating this vial of Primo 200 is bunk:
View attachment 127756

However, I recently sent a sample from the same vial off to Jano for testing. The results contradicting the PEDtest:
View attachment 127757

Now, if you only had access to the PEDtest, you might have ended up binning the Primo or calling out the vendor (I did this at the time, guilty as charged, but fuck you PEDtest).

PEDtest kits are junk and if you get a negative result it does not mean your gear is bunk. PEDtest would have you believe the underground PED market in Aus is saturated with bunk products, but independent Jano testing of current verified vendors on Evo would indicate the opposite.

Stay safe and get strong legends 💪
I fully agree @Corn Gromwell PEDtest (just like roidkits/roidtest in usa) built its brand by scaring people into thinking every vial they buy is fake. Their kits are inconsistent, unreliable, and often show false negatives even on legit gear, which pushes users to buy more tests they don’t need. It’s a cheap hustle preying on fear, not science!
Real testing through professionals like Jano exposes how flawed their methods are and how often they get it wrong.
The underground market has its risks, but PEDtest twisting results for profit is worse than any underdosed batch.
They are basically a racket for extortion if you ask me. :mad:
 
Haha, it’s gear from almost a year ago from a vendor that doesn’t exist anymore - I didn’t touch it because of the PEDtest
If you contact PED test or whatever the fuck it’s called, (don’t really care any more ) with the facts the evidence and show them they will just block or ban you on any of their sites or social media accounts. Because they don’t want to be exposed for the fuck wits that they are.
But power to you brother for showing this community that they are full of shit with your evidence🙏🏼. You are the man!!!
 
If you contact PED test or whatever the fuck it’s called, (don’t really care any more ) with the facts the evidence and show them they will just block or ban you on any of their sites or social media accounts. Because they don’t want to be exposed for the fuck wits that they are.
But power to you brother for showing this community that they are full of shit with your evidence🙏🏼. You are the man!!!
Once more guys catch on to pedtest kits lies, their little test kit scam won’t fool anyone! I hope we get the info out there in the EVO family.
 
For the OGs who are familiar, I've been publicly calling out PED Test for their shady practices for a very long time. That's why they specifically single us out a lot of the time because we've been so vocal about how unreliable their products are and how shady their business practices are - it's made us public enemy #1 on their end. I've called out Hi-Ground out for the same shady practices as they've 'teamed up' to create an alliance which feeds into the same fearmongering tactics (read more about that here).

Here's a couple of examples:
- https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/alpha-labs.105257/post-1771456
- https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/alpha-labs.105257/post-1771745
- https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/ped-test-kit-negative-result.106439/post-1822320
- https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/ped-test-kit-negative-result.106439/post-1830583

(Searching for PED Test related posts here will reveal many more results confirming the same)

Back in February I even reached out to them directly after they posted blatantly false information to their Instagram and social media pages slandering us:

Subject: Addressing your blatant spread of false information
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 07:02:33 +0000

Hi Alison,

I’ll keep this brief as I typically don’t engage with trolls buty your persistent spread of blatantly false information through your active smear campaigns has annoyed me enough to respond to your claims.

1) UGL OZ has never charged for any kind of insurance. What you are referring to is a situation where someone spoke to a scammer impersonating my support representative. If you had actually taken 30 seconds to investigate, you would have found confirmation of this here: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/ugl-oz-kiwi-fella-nz.102615/

2) Your warnings to stay away from Sparta Primo: we have never stocked Primo E in our Sparta range. It's in my Platinum range - which is my lab too. HPLC tested & tested independently by multiple customers: no issues. We do have Primo Ace in our Sparta orals range. Again, HPLC tested & tested independently by multiple customers: no issues.

3) There is only one source for legitimate Sparta orals and oils: me - it's my lab. We openly warn people to stay away from any other sites claiming to stock Sparta. We're the only genuine source and we conduct frequent HPLC testing which you can verify here: [link to HPLC thread on another board -- removing to abide by EVO guidelines]

We also encourage customers to do the same and send off their products at our expense too.

In fact, one of your very own PED test kits incorrectly identified a customer's Proviron as something else which you were quick to dismiss as being 'junk', so we encouraged this customer to send off a sample to Jano for blind testing, and unsurprisingly, it was confirmed to be Proviron:

https://janoshik.com/tests/42075-proviron_VF5QFQSVUT5I

Now I understand that testing is your business, but if you find yourself having to resort to constant fearmongering and spreading misinformation about our business to stay afloat, it may be time to reconsider your business model.

I have consistently advocated the advantages of home testing and havebeen a strong supporter of PED test kits for preliminary assessments,even in light of your ongoing campaigns against us - campaigns which i have found surprising given the value we have contributed to this space. Ask around - many would be willing to attestto this.

You need to be transparent about the error margins associated with these kits. Testing finished oils and capsules that have their active ingredients mixed with fillers introduce variables that can cause inaccurate results. I know you know this to be true.

We have seen this with many people in the community reporting inconsistent results when using multiple PED test kits against the same product (and not even our products at that - it's something that has been seen when testing various labs). These are reports I'm sure you're intimately familiar with yourself which you simply dismiss as being the fault of high concentrations of contamination - which is known to be your canned response - vs. acknowledging the limitations of your kits itself.

I know this is your business so I can understand that being your response but we both know these results aren't caused by something that black and white and can be attributed to multiple variables that can affect the efficacy of the kits. Nothing against PED test, LabMax had the same issues.

There's no denying that there are labs engaging in unethical practices but the bottom line is: we are not one of them. If you’re interested, I invite you to join our community chat:

https://t.me/ugloz

I've been in this business for over a decade and there's over 4000 customers in that group that'd be more than willing to share their experiences - you might even receive valuable feedback on ways to improve your own products. Perhaps then you wouldn't have to rely on constantly trying to discredit one of the good guys in order to drive up your sales.

All the best,

AJ

Instead of accepting my numerous invitations to have an intellectual debate in an open and neutral forum of their choice, their response was that they refused to respond to threats made to them by vendors (there was nothing threatening in the email I sent, mind you - in fact, none of the emails I've sent was ever actually met with a direct response from her).

We openly publish all of our HPLC results regardless of whether the results are good or bad. We have always been open, honest, and transparent. In fact, you can see all of our latest HPLC results for 2025 here:

Previous Janoshik results posted:
@Ratatata also blind tested our Tren E without our knowledge just a couple of days ago too:
What we post is exactly what is being sent to customers. What Alison fails to realise is that reputable and credible labs will never try to hide or suppress any results - regardless of them being good or bad - but that doesn't align with her business model. Her business model is not built around harm reduction, it's built on fearmongering. She needs to make labs look bad in order to remain profitable. Now this isn't to say that there aren't unethical labs out there - there most certainly are - but actively trying to discredit the labs that are actually doing the right thing purely for her own gain and profit is simply disgraceful.

I'm not one to wish on anyone's downfall, but if anyone deserves to be called out, it's most definitely PED Test and her team of goons. She is in no position to comment on an industry she knows nothing about, especially when her sole motivation to participate in this space is for her own greed. She doesn't care about making this industry safer, she cares about her bottom line. It's as simple as that.

AJ
 
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For the OGs who are familiar, I've been publicly calling out PED Test for their shady practices for a very long time. That's why they specifically single us out a lot of the time because we've been so vocal about how unreliable their products are and how shady their business practices are - it's made us public enemy #1 on their end. I've called out Hi-Ground out for the same shady practices as they've 'teamed up' to create an alliance which feeds into the same fearmongering tactics (read more about that here).

Here's a couple of examples:
- https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/alpha-labs.105257/post-1771456
- https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/alpha-labs.105257/post-1771745
- https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/ped-test-kit-negative-result.106439/post-1822320
- https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/ped-test-kit-negative-result.106439/post-1830583

(Searching for PED Test related posts here will reveal many more results confirming the same)

Back in February I even reached out to them directly after they posted blatantly false information to their Instagram and social media pages slandering us:



Instead of accepting my numerous invitations to have an intellectual debate in an open and neutral forum of their choice, their response was that they refused to respond to threats made to them by vendors (there was nothing threatening in the email I sent, mind you - in fact, none of the emails I've sent was ever actually met with a direct response from her).

We openly publish all of our HPLC results regardless of whether the results are good or bad. We have always been open, honest, and transparent. In fact, you can see all of our latest HPLC results for 2025 here:

Previous Janoshik results posted:
@Ratatata also blind tested our Tren E without our knowledge just a couple of days ago too:
What we post is exactly what is being sent to customers. What Alison fails to realise is that reputable and credible labs will never try to hide or suppress any results - regardless of them being good or bad - but that doesn't align with her business model. Her business model is not built around harm reduction, it's built on fearmongering. She needs to make labs look bad in order to remain profitable. Now this isn't to say that there aren't unethical labs out there - there most certainly are - but actively trying to discredit the labs that are actually doing the right thing purely for her own gain and profit is simply disgraceful.

I'm not one to wish on anyone's downfall, but if anyone deserves to be called out, it's most definitely PED Test and her team of goons. She is in no position to comment on an industry she knows nothing about, especially when her sole motivation to participate in this space is for her own greed. She doesn't care about making this industry safer, she cares about her bottom line. It's as simple as that.

AJ
Brother I sent ped test a huge email about your products when they first had a go at you. They didn’t even have the right lab name but singling you out as that lab that had fake gear. That was the start of all their BS and then when I tested your product I got couple of different results from the same vial. I tested another vendor I used to use here and the same thing happened, different results for the same vial of oil. Aj you have always been very transparent with us the customer and have always gone above and beyond showing your HPLC testing whether it’s been good or bad and I thank you for that. That’s why I bought a PED test to see if they were legitimate or not and for any future oils I may buy elsewhere.
My conclusion is they should not be selling tests that I imagine cost them under a dollar made in China and marketing them as harm prevention.
 
PEDtest uses a business model that relies on fear-mongering of the underground PED market. Their tests have frequently produced false negatives and they use these results to scare their customers into buying more of their junk kits.

Here’s a perfect example of this, with the presence test of Methenolone Enanthate indicating this vial of Primo 200 is bunk:
View attachment 127756

However, I recently sent a sample from the same vial off to Jano for testing. The results contradicting the PEDtest:
View attachment 127757

Now, if you only had access to the PEDtest, you might have ended up binning the Primo or calling out the vendor (I did this at the time, guilty as charged, but fuck you PEDtest).

PEDtest kits are junk and if you get a negative result it does not mean your gear is bunk. PEDtest would have you believe the underground PED market in Aus is saturated with bunk products, but independent Jano testing of current verified vendors on Evo would indicate the opposite.

Stay safe and get strong legends 💪
No vendor worth their salt would listen to a PED TEST result
They would tell you where to go shove it
As I have many times

How dumb would you have to be to not research any science into these kits
How could they possibly distinguish between different hormones ffs what chemical reaction?
Loll
 
About six months ago before I’d worked my way through every thread on the Evo Aussie section, I bought some 20 mg Anavar caps from a reputable Evo supplier.

I tried a PEDtest kit and got an underwhelming (but not negative) result. I sent it in for interpretation, mentioning that the first couple of times I took it, I felt a strong stimulant-like rush, almost like meth. PEDtest arranged for a proper lab analysis, saying that when something might pose a public-health risk, they like to verify it professionally.

The results came back clean: positive for Oxandrolone only, with standard filler and nothing unexpected. I ended up running the Var for six weeks, it did exactly what it should.

Looking back, that feeling was just an adrenaline dump. It happens whenever I try a new compound. Something about pinning or swallowing mystery internet drugs gets in my head. As I hadn’t used anything in years, I’d forgotten the feeling.


Best part? I got PEDtest to disprove their own test via a certified lab, on their own dime.
 
About six months ago before I’d worked my way through every thread on the Evo Aussie section, I bought some 20 mg Anavar caps from a reputable Evo supplier.

I tried a PEDtest kit and got an underwhelming (but not negative) result. I sent it in for interpretation, mentioning that the first couple of times I took it, I felt a strong stimulant-like rush, almost like meth. PEDtest arranged for a proper lab analysis, saying that when something might pose a public-health risk, they like to verify it professionally.

The results came back clean: positive for Oxandrolone only, with standard filler and nothing unexpected. I ended up running the Var for six weeks, it did exactly what it should.

Looking back, that feeling was just an adrenaline dump. It happens whenever I try a new compound. Something about pinning or swallowing mystery internet drugs gets in my head. As I hadn’t used anything in years, I’d forgotten the feeling.


Best part? I got PEDtest to disprove their own test via a certified lab, on their own dime.

They would not have used a certified lab .....
You got a rush from anavar
An adrenaline dump?
Maybe anxiety brother
And you are using the anavar as confirmation from an otherwise stressful life....
 
They would not have used a certified lab .....
You got a rush from anavar
An adrenaline dump?
Maybe anxiety brother
And you are using the anavar as confirmation from an otherwise stressful life....
I’ll dm you the lab name, I dropped it off myself as it was in the same city and I was curious to see the place.

Maybe I’ve used the wrong word adrenaline dump, you know what I mean. Anxiety / panic attack feels.

Point I was making is if I had I trusted a PEDtest kit I would have binned a good batch of caps and bought into their bs forever.

I found out first hand how unreliable the tests are, and then I see this thread and realise I’m not the only one!
 
I’ll dm you the lab name, I dropped it off myself as it was in the same city and I was curious to see the place.

Maybe I’ve used the wrong word adrenaline dump, you know what I mean. Anxiety / panic attack feels.

Point I was making is if I had I trusted a PEDtest kit I would have binned a good batch of caps and bought into their bs forever.

I found out first hand how unreliable the tests are, and then I see this thread and realise I’m not the only one!
Was this tested through the CheQpoint X Hi-Ground (ROIDCheck) pilot program? If so, you can consider the results of that test trash too.

It also wasn't done on their 'own dime' - it's a free testing initiative. The ROIDCheck program is lead by Dr. Tim who also happens to be a PED Test puppet who has a PhD in psychology and has co-authored papers on the negative psychological effects of misusing PEDs (I didn't know this required a PhD, but there you have it). He's also a frequent guest author on PED Test's blog.

However, the technical methods used for actually analysing the samples has been described as the following when Dr. Tim / CheQpoint were asked about it:

Well across the current community methods, our approach is a little more robust - GC/MS via brand new lab tech vs. reference standards as the first approach. The forensics team also have some other options they want to test out I think, although first priority is getting our original method sured up.

They are currently trialling different analysis methods so some inconsistencies may result

In other words, they're using an analysis method that utilises mass spec in some non-standardised way. Let me be clear here, traditional GCMS testing *is* accurate, however what they've described is basically a black box to anyone outside of their internal forensics team and is something they're still refining - no real technical information about this 'new lab tech' they're using for testing has actually ever been published though.

It's also worth mentionining that their last ROIDCheck "Wave" test results slandered a bunch of labs for products that they don't even sell or have ever stocked. Nothing in that publication was fact checked so it just goes to show how much time they actually invest in producing these publications.

Some background information on Dr. Tim:

His government funding (>$4.5m in grants)
https://experts.griffith.edu.au/32294-tim-piatkowski/grants

His publications:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=Piatkowski T&cauthor_id=39405812

His publications related to AAS:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=(Piatkowski T[Author]) AND (AAS)

Some of his best hits:
- 'My mind pretty much went to mush': A qualitative exploration of trenbolone in the performance and image enhancing drug community.
- "The compounds for females are really commonly faked!": Women's challenges in anabolic steroid acquisition and the place of drug checking interventions.
- "Gendered perspectives on women's anabolic-androgenic steroid (AAS) usage practices."

I'm not sure how someone with a PhD in psychology qualifies him to lead such a program but it certainly helps PED Test push their shitty products since having someone with these three letters that follow his email signature would certainly add some credibility to the claims they make: 'P' 'h' 'D'.

He's done well milking the government out of millions of dollars of funding and has certainly helped PED Test in getting people to believe that the product they sell is actually making a difference in harm minimisation. That would be true if the results those kits produced were actually half accurate. What's even more crazy is that the team behind PED Test also sell a Narco test product - I wonder how many samples those Narco kits have misidentified as not containing something as dangerous as Fentanyl?

Either way, the industry standard for AAS testing is Janoshik. If you want to get your gear tested, spend the extra money and get it done properly by a team that has proven to be competent and are considered top-tier in their field of research and testing.

AJ
 
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Brother I sent ped test a huge email about your products when they first had a go at you. They didn’t even have the right lab name but singling you out as that lab that had fake gear. That was the start of all their BS and then when I tested your product I got couple of different results from the same vial. I tested another vendor I used to use here and the same thing happened, different results for the same vial of oil. Aj you have always been very transparent with us the customer and have always gone above and beyond showing your HPLC testing whether it’s been good or bad and I thank you for that. That’s why I bought a PED test to see if they were legitimate or not and for any future oils I may buy elsewhere.
My conclusion is they should not be selling tests that I imagine cost them under a dollar made in China and marketing them as harm prevention.
Thank you for your support and the kind words brother, appreciate you 🙏

AJ
 
Was this tested through the CheQpoint X Hi-Ground (ROIDCheck) pilot program? If so, you can consider the results of that test trash too.

It also wasn't done on their 'own dime' - it's a free testing initiative. The ROIDCheck program is lead by Dr. Tim who also happens to be a PED Test puppet who has a PhD in psychology and has co-authored papers on the negative psychological effects of misusing PEDs (I didn't know this required a PhD, but there you have it). He's also a frequent guest author on PED Test's blog.

However, the technical methods used for actually analysing the samples has been described as the following when Dr. Tim / CheQpoint were asked about it:



In other words, they're using an analysis method that utilises mass spec in some non-standardised way. Let me be clear here, traditional GCMS testing *is* accurate, however what they've described is basically a black box to anyone outside of their internal forensics team and is something they're still refining - no real technical information about this 'new lab tech' they're using for testing has actually ever been published though.

It's also worth mentionining that their last ROIDCheck "Wave" test results slandered a bunch of labs for products that they don't even sell or have ever stocked. Nothing in that publication was fact checked so it just goes to show how much time they actually invest in producing these publications.

Some background information on Dr. Tim:

His government funding (>$4.5m in grants)
https://experts.griffith.edu.au/32294-tim-piatkowski/grants

His publications:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=Piatkowski T&cauthor_id=39405812

His publications related to AAS:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=(Piatkowski T[Author]) AND (AAS)

Some of his best hits:
- 'My mind pretty much went to mush': A qualitative exploration of trenbolone in the performance and image enhancing drug community.
- "The compounds for females are really commonly faked!": Women's challenges in anabolic steroid acquisition and the place of drug checking interventions.
- "Gendered perspectives on women's anabolic-androgenic steroid (AAS) usage practices."

I'm not sure how someone with a PhD in psychology qualifies him to lead such a program but it certainly helps PED Test push their shitty products since having someone with these three letters that follow his email signature would certainly add some credibility to the claims they make: 'P' 'h' 'D'.

He's done well milking the government out of millions of dollars of funding and has certainly helped PED Test in getting people to believe that the product they sell is actually making a difference in harm minimisation. That would be true if the results those kits produced were actually half accurate. What's even more crazy is that the team behind PED Test also sell a Narco test product - I wonder how many samples those Narco kits have misidentified as not containing something as dangerous as Fentanyl?

Either way, the industry standard for AAS testing is Janoshik. If you want to get your gear tested, spend the extra money and get it done properly by a team that has proven to be competent and are considered top-tier in their field of research and testing.

AJ
Hey AJ, nah it wasn’t that program. I took it to the lab myself as it was fairly local (can dm you the name if you want), they do contract work for police forensics etc, PEDtest definitely had to pay haha.

I believe they used GCMS testing, but the point wasn’t about the quality of the lab test, just thought some would get a laugh cause PEDtest paid for a lab test which completely contradicted their reagent test.
 
Hey AJ, nah it wasn’t that program. I took it to the lab myself as it was fairly local (can dm you the name if you want), they do contract work for police forensics etc, PEDtest definitely had to pay haha.

I believe they used GCMS testing, but the point wasn’t about the quality of the lab test, just thought some would get a laugh cause PEDtest paid for a lab test which completely contradicted their reagent test.
Hah, well in that case I'd consider that a win too - bravo :P

AJ
 
I’ll dm you the lab name, I dropped it off myself as it was in the same city and I was curious to see the place.

Maybe I’ve used the wrong word adrenaline dump, you know what I mean. Anxiety / panic attack feels.

Point I was making is if I had I trusted a PEDtest kit I would have binned a good batch of caps and bought into their bs forever.

I found out first hand how unreliable the tests are, and then I see this thread and realise I’m not the only one!
While there might be SOME value to 'how I feel' when using PEDs it's the least scientific way to measure a product (obviously you then use a roid test and a lab test).

By way of example I take most of my pills and, if on, orals in the am but feel little to no different even though I also train in the am. yet there are numerous members here using orals, inc Var, as a kinda pre-workout.

We've also seen multiple new users post their first injection sense of anxiety. Which is almost NEVER related to the steroid. Usually it's just anxiety at the actual pinning
 
One of the biggest scams out there
100%

Even if they worked they have little value to how a product is dosed and are mostly pointless with blends.

And obviously ALL decent sources lab test
 
100%

Even if they worked they have little value to how a product is dosed and are mostly pointless with blends.

And obviously ALL decent sources lab test
This is a fact! those kits are a scam. @Mobster
 
100%

Even if they worked they have little value to how a product is dosed and are mostly pointless with blends.

And obviously ALL decent sources lab test

Most reputable raws are tested and with third party testing also per batch.
 
HPLC only real quantitative way to prove it.

Jano or there's that other european lab; both overseas. Surprised the Chinese haven't got around to doing it (not like there not doing everything else LOL).
 
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