Is it worth running hcg during cycle?

[Wildchild327]

Hey boys, (not sure if posted in correct area)

just wondering if running hcg is worthwhile on a blast, or more so when actually wanting to try for kids?

I know it’ll be harder to balance e2, and progesterone incorporating it. More so wonder if it’s worth it if ‘fertility’ is a concern. Again, I know it’s all risks when using peds, and the best thing would be to not use before kids!

I currently have some, just working out if it use it, or keep it for when I actually want to try for kids.

Currently running
Test e
Primo
Hgh
Will be adding npp in a few more weeks

Thanks boys

 

[mcstabby]

meh, for fertility reasons, yes. To stop your bollocks shrinking to raisins, yes. for any other notable reasons, no.

Keep it for fertility. But it really depends how long you been on cycle for and if you been blasting cruising or PCT off. If you been suppressed for years, it may take many months of HCG to regain fertility. Fertility may also not be possible after extended periods of suppression.

 

[Wildchild327]

meh, for fertility reasons, yes. To stop your bollocks shrinking to raisins, yes. for any other notable reasons, no.

Keep it for fertility. But it really depends how long you been on cycle for and if you been blasting cruising or PCT off. If you been suppressed for years, it may take many months of HCG to regain fertility. Fertility may also not be possible after extended periods of suppression.

Usually blast and come off and pct. Been on 1.5 weeks so far and will for about 20 weeks total. Most recent test level was at low-mid 200’s which makes me contemplate cruising after this round but 50/50 at the moment. Which also makes me question if it’s worth adding into the blast if I do infact cruise after

 

[mcstabby]

your natural test level is not indicative of your fertility. But the longterm shutdown of the HPT Axis can and will inhibit fertility due mainly to the supression of the testes. TO be honest, if your looking to have kids, and arent competing in body building, your priority prob should be knocking up the misso, punching out a couple semen demons, then blasting tren.

 

[Shakey]

, punching out a couple semen demons, then blasting tren.

 

[Shakey]

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Usually blast and come off and pct. Been on 1.5 weeks so far and will for about 20 weeks total. Most recent test level was at low-mid 200’s which makes me contemplate cruising after this round but 50/50 at the moment. Which also makes me question if it’s worth adding into the blast if I do infact cruise after

If your worried about it and want to be cautious, just run the hcg on a min dose. Dont run during pct as it mimics lh to get the testes going. When restarting the hpta, running hcg can slow recovery by having the testes producing already, it tells the pituitary theres test already.

Hcg can also be run as a 4-6 week pre-pct to jump start your boys.

 

[Wildchild327]

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If your worried about it and want to be cautious, just run the hcg on a min dose. Dont run during pct as it mimics lh to get the testes going. When restarting the hpta, running hcg can slow recovery by having the testes producing already, it tells the pituitary theres test already.

Hcg can also be run as a 4-6 week pre-pct to jump start your boys.

What would you recommend minimum dose? 250-350iu a week?

 

[Shakey]

What would you recommend minimum dose? 250-350iu a week?

I think 250iu 2x week was starting dose for ball maintenance on cycle/trt. Fertility maintenance was 500iu 2x week starting dose.

Some see effects on as little as 125iu 2-3x weekly. If you want to be careful with fertility, sperm analysis bro. Lol

HCG doesnt need a crazy high dose. As long as it keeps your nuts running thats all you need. More ≠ better.

20-30years ago, the oldtimers didnt know back then that aromatization is very high inside your nuts but they thought more would help preserve nuts. Then after that came people saying hcg is bad and only raises estrogen. Guess what those bodybuilders were blasting a week?

2000-5000iu per injection 2-3x a week.

 

[Wildchild327]

I think 250iu 2x week was starting dose for ball maintenance on cycle/trt. Fertility maintenance was 500iu 2x week starting dose.

Some see effects on as little as 125iu 2-3x weekly. If you want to be careful with fertility, sperm analysis bro. Lol

HCG doesnt need a crazy high dose. As long as it keeps your nuts running thats all you need. More ≠ better.

20-30years ago, the oldtimers didnt know back then that aromatization is very high inside your nuts but they thought more would help preserve nuts. Then after that came people saying hcg is bad and only raises estrogen. Guess what those bodybuilders were blasting a week?

2000-5000iu per injection 2-3x a week.

Jesus Christ

Thank you bro

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey boys, (not sure if posted in correct area)

just wondering if running hcg is worthwhile on a blast, or more so when actually wanting to try for kids?

I know it’ll be harder to balance e2, and progesterone incorporating it. More so wonder if it’s worth it if ‘fertility’ is a concern. Again, I know it’s all risks when using peds, and the best thing would be to not use before kids!

I currently have some, just working out if it use it, or keep it for when I actually want to try for kids.

Currently running
Test e
Primo
Hgh
Will be adding npp in a few more weeks

Thanks boys

if you want to do it go for it @Wildchild327 every 2 weeks pin 1000 IUs of HCG. though fadogia and natty test boosters like HCGenerate are easier to use though of course not as potent but you dont have to inject an estrogenic compound, basically a toss up.

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[Mobster]

Hey boys, (not sure if posted in correct area)

just wondering if running hcg is worthwhile on a blast, or more so when actually wanting to try for kids?

I know it’ll be harder to balance e2, and progesterone incorporating it. More so wonder if it’s worth it if ‘fertility’ is a concern. Again, I know it’s all risks when using peds, and the best thing would be to not use before kids!

I currently have some, just working out if it use it, or keep it for when I actually want to try for kids.

Currently running
Test e
Primo
Hgh
Will be adding npp in a few more weeks

Thanks boys

Pointless for fertility on cycle. At best, as many stress over it, keeping the ball size

 

[Mobster]

Usually blast and come off and pct. Been on 1.5 weeks so far and will for about 20 weeks total. Most recent test level was at low-mid 200’s which makes me contemplate cruising after this round but 50/50 at the moment. Which also makes me question if it’s worth adding into the blast if I do infact cruise after

To what end? Why 20 weeks?

 

[Wildchild327]

Pointless for fertility on cycle. At best, as many stress over it, keeping the ball size

Yeah I’m definitely learning towards keeping it for a later date, hey as they say, makes the rest look bigger
thanks bro

 

[Wildchild327]

To what end? Why 20 weeks?

20 weeks is a loose amount of time currently. Will depend on bloods throughout and if needed cut sooner. Figured a 16-20 week run to really give the primo time to shine

 

[Trenhead3cc]

As Rich Piana once said

“If you want your dick to look bigger… make your balls smaller.”

 

[JudeRobertson]

I’d personally treat HCG more as a “when fertility actually matters” tool rather than something to just run on every blast.

On-cycle it can help keep intratesticular function going, but it also tends to add another layer of E2 management and makes things a bit more complex for not a huge upside unless you’re planning long-term or bridging into fertility work.

 

[Mobster]

20 weeks is a loose amount of time currently. Will depend on bloods throughout and if needed cut sooner. Figured a 16-20 week run to really give the primo time to shine

The plan, as per your log, is a little lean gain / recomp. Even if you added 1/2lb a week and 5lbs would be great on your frame that's 10 weeks.

I'd split it. 10 weeks on, 10 off and 10 on. That's also more likely to let the gains 'stick'. It also comes down to what you chose to use (ie primo). Back when I responded better I could add 5lbs in 8 weeks just using 50mg a day of Anavar

 

[stevesmi]

here is the facts on hcg that i have learned over the years using it, looking at bloods, and anectodal stuff from people.

it is derived from pregnant female urine, yes you heard that right. of course you aren't injecting the actual urine, its a polypeptide made in a lab that is the same thing, no differnet then when you inject testosterone.. you aren't actually injecting real testosterone, its a hormone made in a lab too.

hcg suppresses your pitutiary glands. why? cause it mimics the hormones it spits out. if you are on AAS you are going to be shutdown with or without hcg, it will not offset that fact. if it did then nobody would need trt for life now would they?

now what does hcg do? by mimicking those hormones it will feed your testes making them larger. but don't fall for the bro science that this is 'preventing shutdown' because it isn't. this is the big 'rich piana fapbro science' that guys of his era thought who listened to him and it got them completely screwed. just cause your bro-nuts plump up, doesn't mean your pituitary glands still aren't off. also run bloods even off cycle and you will see when you use hcg actually SUPPRESSES your own bodies lh and fsh! that is what hormones do, just like when you use exogenous testosterone your OWN testosterone goes down and gets replaced. hcg is doing the same thing with your lh and fsh

now as far as fertility HCG has NOT ever been proven in legitimate studies to be a fertility aid in men. the ONLy study ever published that i have seen (and please correct me if i am wrong anyone) was a study that showed that CLOMID + VIT E caused a rise in fertility. now of course this wasn't done on juice heads but it shows that its possible for men to get treated for fertility. however if someone invented a true fertility option for men they would have patented it and made billions a long time ago considering sperm counts have been dropping like rocks for decades.

i have seen guys who have blasted the hell out of hcg and not have any shred of luck with fertility, and i have seen guys who have had luck. i am on the fence if it actually helps and would even argue that it can/will hurt your fertility in the long game since it is suppressing your HPTA/pit glands.

my view is simple. if you have exhausted everything and are desperate then i would blast the hell out of hcg, clomid, vitamin E, herbals, etc and try it. WHILE ALSO coming off ALL ANABOLICS (yes even trt) maybe you will get lucky. but if you think that taking hcg while on trt or gear is going to magically boost your fertility then that is wishful thinking. the older you get the harder it will be too. and people who have got lucky you can make the argument it would have happened with or without hcg as it takes 1 sperm.

also there are a LOT Of clinics, sources, etc. who push the hell out of hcg. they even for years pushed the 'hcg diet' which is comically a horrible long term solution to weight loss. these guys are working on comissions to sell you hcg so of course they will push it. hcg is also very safe to use, cheap to produce and they make gigantic margins on it. so of course its the perfect compound for them to convince you to buy. so keep that in mind...

and it helps tremendously the social media bro-guru to tell you to use hcg in pct, and for you to watch your balls plump up like magic, this will make you happy and give you that make believe notion that it is working. when reality behind the scenes it is actually causing more harm then good since it is only keeping you more supressed

 

[Shakey]

hcg suppresses your pitutiary glands. why? cause it mimics the hormones it spits out. if you are on AAS you are going to be shutdown with or without hcg, it will not offset that fact. if it did then nobody would need trt for life now would they?

Also run bloods even off cycle and you will see when you use hcg actually SUPPRESSES your own bodies lh and fsh! that is what hormones do, just like when you use exogenous testosterone your OWN testosterone goes down and gets replaced. hcg is doing the same thing with your lh and fsh

i am on the fence if it actually helps and would even argue that it can/will hurt your fertility in the long game since it is suppressing your HPTA/pit glands.

and it helps tremendously the social media bro-guru to tell you to use hcg in pct, and for you to watch your balls plump up like magic, this will make you happy and give you that make believe notion that it is working. when reality behind the scenes it is actually causing more harm then good since it is only keeping you more supressed

100% agree with the suppression. Hcg during pct is complete non-sense that hurts hpta recovery.

I havent actually looked into studies myself to see if hcg improves fertility. But i did see some studies (2 in 2025, 1 in 2026) in GLP-1s improving fertility in men. Though those benefits look to be mostly in obese men where hormones and metabolic conditions improve do to weight loss.

There was 1 however that found GLP1 receptors in male reproductive tissues.

Heres the abstracts to read, i can help find the full studies if you want to read the full articles.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41016449/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41498523/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2772973725007076

 

[stevesmi]

100% agree with the suppression. Hcg during pct is complete non-sense that hurts hpta recovery.

I havent actually looked into studies myself to see if hcg improves fertility. But i did see some studies (2 in 2025, 1 in 2026) in GLP-1s improving fertility in men. Though those benefits look to be mostly in obese men where hormones and metabolic conditions improve do to weight loss.

There was 1 however that found GLP1 receptors in male reproductive tissues.

Heres the abstracts to read, i can help find the full studies if you want to read the full articles.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41016449/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41498523/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2772973725007076

probably because the laws of nature mean a sick obese male shouldn't reproduce.
its like the way sharks pick off fish schools in nature, they pick off the slower and sicker fish to produce stronger fish

 

[Shakey]

probably because the laws of nature mean a sick obese male shouldn't reproduce.
its like the way sharks pick off fish schools in nature, they pick off the slower and sicker fish to produce stronger fish

I laughed so damn hard reading that.

 

[Wildchild327]

here is the facts on hcg that i have learned over the years using it, looking at bloods, and anectodal stuff from people.

it is derived from pregnant female urine, yes you heard that right. of course you aren't injecting the actual urine, its a polypeptide made in a lab that is the same thing, no differnet then when you inject testosterone.. you aren't actually injecting real testosterone, its a hormone made in a lab too.

hcg suppresses your pitutiary glands. why? cause it mimics the hormones it spits out. if you are on AAS you are going to be shutdown with or without hcg, it will not offset that fact. if it did then nobody would need trt for life now would they?

now what does hcg do? by mimicking those hormones it will feed your testes making them larger. but don't fall for the bro science that this is 'preventing shutdown' because it isn't. this is the big 'rich piana fapbro science' that guys of his era thought who listened to him and it got them completely screwed. just cause your bro-nuts plump up, doesn't mean your pituitary glands still aren't off. also run bloods even off cycle and you will see when you use hcg actually SUPPRESSES your own bodies lh and fsh! that is what hormones do, just like when you use exogenous testosterone your OWN testosterone goes down and gets replaced. hcg is doing the same thing with your lh and fsh

now as far as fertility HCG has NOT ever been proven in legitimate studies to be a fertility aid in men. the ONLy study ever published that i have seen (and please correct me if i am wrong anyone) was a study that showed that CLOMID + VIT E caused a rise in fertility. now of course this wasn't done on juice heads but it shows that its possible for men to get treated for fertility. however if someone invented a true fertility option for men they would have patented it and made billions a long time ago considering sperm counts have been dropping like rocks for decades.

i have seen guys who have blasted the hell out of hcg and not have any shred of luck with fertility, and i have seen guys who have had luck. i am on the fence if it actually helps and would even argue that it can/will hurt your fertility in the long game since it is suppressing your HPTA/pit glands.

my view is simple. if you have exhausted everything and are desperate then i would blast the hell out of hcg, clomid, vitamin E, herbals, etc and try it. WHILE ALSO coming off ALL ANABOLICS (yes even trt) maybe you will get lucky. but if you think that taking hcg while on trt or gear is going to magically boost your fertility then that is wishful thinking. the older you get the harder it will be too. and people who have got lucky you can make the argument it would have happened with or without hcg as it takes 1 sperm.

also there are a LOT Of clinics, sources, etc. who push the hell out of hcg. they even for years pushed the 'hcg diet' which is comically a horrible long term solution to weight loss. these guys are working on comissions to sell you hcg so of course they will push it. hcg is also very safe to use, cheap to produce and they make gigantic margins on it. so of course its the perfect compound for them to convince you to buy. so keep that in mind...

and it helps tremendously the social media bro-guru to tell you to use hcg in pct, and for you to watch your balls plump up like magic, this will make you happy and give you that make believe notion that it is working. when reality behind the scenes it is actually causing more harm then good since it is only keeping you more supressed

100% agree with the suppression. Hcg during pct is complete non-sense that hurts hpta recovery.

I havent actually looked into studies myself to see if hcg improves fertility. But i did see some studies (2 in 2025, 1 in 2026) in GLP-1s improving fertility in men. Though those benefits look to be mostly in obese men where hormones and metabolic conditions improve do to weight loss.

There was 1 however that found GLP1 receptors in male reproductive tissues.

Heres the abstracts to read, i can help find the full studies if you want to read the full articles.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41016449/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41498523/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2772973725007076

Thank you boys for the in depth information, definitely made the decision easier!

 

[stevesmi]

Thank you boys for the in depth information, definitely made the decision easier!

hope that helps

 

[Trenhead3cc]

Thank you boys for the in depth information, definitely made the decision easier!

Wait , didn’t my comment make the decision easier ? Lol

 

[HarleyGuy]

Hey boys, (not sure if posted in correct area)

just wondering if running hcg is worthwhile on a blast, or more so when actually wanting to try for kids?

I know it’ll be harder to balance e2, and progesterone incorporating it. More so wonder if it’s worth it if ‘fertility’ is a concern. Again, I know it’s all risks when using peds, and the best thing would be to not use before kids!

I currently have some, just working out if it use it, or keep it for when I actually want to try for kids.

Currently running
Test e
Primo
Hgh
Will be adding npp in a few more weeks

Thanks boys

If I was forced to choose between yes or no to this question I'd choose no.