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[Pinheadlarry]

My first testosterone cycle log

Hi everyone been lurking for a bit and listening to the podcasts a lot and wanted to start my first log, idk if this is too much or not enough information but I’m keen to hear everyone’s opinions.

Stats
24 years old
180cm
72.3kg (was around 75 on cycle)

I’ve been training for 6 years and until now the only PED I’ve touch was some “ostarine” I used a year and half ago, pretty sure it wasn’t ostarine as 4 weeks in I started getting get itchy and sensitive nips, went straight to doctor and my prolactin was 915mu/L which was 3x high end so yeah, when I got this tested my doctor didn’t test for estrogen and when I asked why he said as a male estrogen is not important and he doesn’t need to test for it,(ummm yeahhh)

Since then I hadn’t done anything else and had my test levels checked in July 2025 so 1 year ago and they were 10.4nmol, I will post physique photos from this time period was around 10% bf.

Now to current cycle at the start of this year I started taking Retatrutide just to help recomp then shortly after I decided to order some test as I knew my levels had always been low, (3nmol in 2022, 6nmol 3 months later, then 10.4 in 2025)

Cycle
250 test prop (35mg per day sub q, before bed)
For 16 weeks
The first 6 weeks I was feeling better than ever but started to get sensitive and puffy nips, idk if I was in my head and at this point I should of definitly had blood test I know I fucked up,

At week 8 I started taking 20mg nolvadex with my injection and this allowed me to continue my cycle for another 8 weeks,

Only other side effect was a bit of acne on chest and forearms which was manageable with benzoyl peroxide wash daily,

Current peptides
2mg Retatrutide per week
2mg ghkcu daily
0.25mcg mt2 every 1-3 days

It’s now 2 weeks since my last pin and I’m still taking the 20mg nolvadex daily, and I feel like shit libido is not there energy is very hard to find too, my pumps are okay in the gym but they fade quickly as I lose energy fast.

I’m struggling trying to do this pct and not just buy more test and cruise on a trt dose before starting a proper blast which is my intention,

My diet hasn’t been super dialed in until now as I was losing fat and getting stronger throughout the whole cycle but am definitly keen to log everything from now on,

I know I probably missed some stuff so lmk anything else u guys need to know and cheers for the support keen to be apart of this community

Photos-
1st was on ostarine
2nd was start of the year right before cycle
3rd was on cycle

 

[Pinheadlarry]

Just wanted to add that because I wasn’t taking anything for estrogen I think that’s why I was holding onto a lot of water and since I finished cycle the water weight has deftly reduced a lot.

 

[stevesmi]

My first testosterone cycle log

Hi everyone been lurking for a bit and listening to the podcasts a lot and wanted to start my first log, idk if this is too much or not enough information but I’m keen to hear everyone’s opinions.

Stats
24 years old
180cm
72.3kg (was around 75 on cycle)

I’ve been training for 6 years and until now the only PED I’ve touch was some “ostarine” I used a year and half ago, pretty sure it wasn’t ostarine as 4 weeks in I started getting get itchy and sensitive nips, went straight to doctor and my prolactin was 915mu/L which was 3x high end so yeah, when I got this tested my doctor didn’t test for estrogen and when I asked why he said as a male estrogen is not important and he doesn’t need to test for it,(ummm yeahhh)

Since then I hadn’t done anything else and had my test levels checked in July 2025 so 1 year ago and they were 10.4nmol, I will post physique photos from this time period was around 10% bf.

Now to current cycle at the start of this year I started taking Retatrutide just to help recomp then shortly after I decided to order some test as I knew my levels had always been low, (3nmol in 2022, 6nmol 3 months later, then 10.4 in 2025)

Cycle
250 test prop (35mg per day sub q, before bed)
For 16 weeks
The first 6 weeks I was feeling better than ever but started to get sensitive and puffy nips, idk if I was in my head and at this point I should of definitly had blood test I know I fucked up,

At week 8 I started taking 20mg nolvadex with my injection and this allowed me to continue my cycle for another 8 weeks,

Only other side effect was a bit of acne on chest and forearms which was manageable with benzoyl peroxide wash daily,

Current peptides
2mg Retatrutide per week
2mg ghkcu daily
0.25mcg mt2 every 1-3 days

It’s now 2 weeks since my last pin and I’m still taking the 20mg nolvadex daily, and I feel like shit libido is not there energy is very hard to find too, my pumps are okay in the gym but they fade quickly as I lose energy fast.

I’m struggling trying to do this pct and not just buy more test and cruise on a trt dose before starting a proper blast which is my intention,

My diet hasn’t been super dialed in until now as I was losing fat and getting stronger throughout the whole cycle but am definitly keen to log everything from now on,

I know I probably missed some stuff so lmk anything else u guys need to know and cheers for the support keen to be apart of this community

Photos-
1st was on ostarine
2nd was start of the year right before cycle
3rd was on cycle

@Pinheadlarry good job man. this is a great start. how you like the MT2 and sides?

 

[Allupfromhere]

My first testosterone cycle log

Hi everyone been lurking for a bit and listening to the podcasts a lot and wanted to start my first log, idk if this is too much or not enough information but I’m keen to hear everyone’s opinions.

Stats
24 years old
180cm
72.3kg (was around 75 on cycle)

I’ve been training for 6 years and until now the only PED I’ve touch was some “ostarine” I used a year and half ago, pretty sure it wasn’t ostarine as 4 weeks in I started getting get itchy and sensitive nips, went straight to doctor and my prolactin was 915mu/L which was 3x high end so yeah, when I got this tested my doctor didn’t test for estrogen and when I asked why he said as a male estrogen is not important and he doesn’t need to test for it,(ummm yeahhh)

Since then I hadn’t done anything else and had my test levels checked in July 2025 so 1 year ago and they were 10.4nmol, I will post physique photos from this time period was around 10% bf.

Now to current cycle at the start of this year I started taking Retatrutide just to help recomp then shortly after I decided to order some test as I knew my levels had always been low, (3nmol in 2022, 6nmol 3 months later, then 10.4 in 2025)

Cycle
250 test prop (35mg per day sub q, before bed)
For 16 weeks
The first 6 weeks I was feeling better than ever but started to get sensitive and puffy nips, idk if I was in my head and at this point I should of definitly had blood test I know I fucked up,

At week 8 I started taking 20mg nolvadex with my injection and this allowed me to continue my cycle for another 8 weeks,

Only other side effect was a bit of acne on chest and forearms which was manageable with benzoyl peroxide wash daily,

Current peptides
2mg Retatrutide per week
2mg ghkcu daily
0.25mcg mt2 every 1-3 days

It’s now 2 weeks since my last pin and I’m still taking the 20mg nolvadex daily, and I feel like shit libido is not there energy is very hard to find too, my pumps are okay in the gym but they fade quickly as I lose energy fast.

I’m struggling trying to do this pct and not just buy more test and cruise on a trt dose before starting a proper blast which is my intention,

My diet hasn’t been super dialed in until now as I was losing fat and getting stronger throughout the whole cycle but am definitly keen to log everything from now on,

I know I probably missed some stuff so lmk anything else u guys need to know and cheers for the support keen to be apart of this community

Photos-
1st was on ostarine
2nd was start of the year right before cycle
3rd was on cycle

Nice start brother and yeah things look like they were a little muddy with your setup but i think the best thing you can do right now moving foward is first up getting some full bloods done. What country are you in?

 

[Pinheadlarry]

@Pinheadlarry good job man. this is a great start. how you like the MT2 and sides?

Thanks Steve the mt2 is great only side I have is a few freckles on my face are a bit darker but that’s about it not super tanned off it as I do it usually ever 3 days but enough to maintain some color, the first night was a shock looking in the mirror and seeing the flushing for the first time tho haha, also haven’t noticed the libido spike at all seeing as I started it as I finished test.

 

[Pinheadlarry]

Nice start brother and yeah things look like they were a little muddy with your setup but i think the best thing you can do right now moving foward is first up getting some full bloods done. What country are you in?

Thanks bro I live in Aussie just waiting for my Medicare to be sorted then getting bloods asap no matter what,

 

[stevesmi]

Thanks Steve the mt2 is great only side I have is a few freckles on my face are a bit darker but that’s about it not super tanned off it as I do it usually ever 3 days but enough to maintain some color, the first night was a shock looking in the mirror and seeing the flushing for the first time tho haha, also haven’t noticed the libido spike at all seeing as I started it as I finished test.

yeah that is something people complain about. Also nausea seems to be quite common with it but you're lucky you're not getting it.

 

[Pinheadlarry]

yeah that is something people complain about. Also nausea seems to be quite common with it but you're lucky you're not getting it.

Yeah I think maybe because I’m taking it before bed I’m not noticing it while sleeping.

 

[stevesmi]

Yeah I think maybe because I’m taking it before bed I’m not noticing it while sleeping.

yeah bingo that helps

 

[LevButlerov]

My first testosterone cycle log

Hi everyone been lurking for a bit and listening to the podcasts a lot and wanted to start my first log, idk if this is too much or not enough information but I’m keen to hear everyone’s opinions.

Stats
24 years old
180cm
72.3kg (was around 75 on cycle)

I’ve been training for 6 years and until now the only PED I’ve touch was some “ostarine” I used a year and half ago, pretty sure it wasn’t ostarine as 4 weeks in I started getting get itchy and sensitive nips, went straight to doctor and my prolactin was 915mu/L which was 3x high end so yeah, when I got this tested my doctor didn’t test for estrogen and when I asked why he said as a male estrogen is not important and he doesn’t need to test for it,(ummm yeahhh)

Since then I hadn’t done anything else and had my test levels checked in July 2025 so 1 year ago and they were 10.4nmol, I will post physique photos from this time period was around 10% bf.

Now to current cycle at the start of this year I started taking Retatrutide just to help recomp then shortly after I decided to order some test as I knew my levels had always been low, (3nmol in 2022, 6nmol 3 months later, then 10.4 in 2025)

Cycle
250 test prop (35mg per day sub q, before bed)
For 16 weeks
The first 6 weeks I was feeling better than ever but started to get sensitive and puffy nips, idk if I was in my head and at this point I should of definitly had blood test I know I fucked up,

At week 8 I started taking 20mg nolvadex with my injection and this allowed me to continue my cycle for another 8 weeks,

Only other side effect was a bit of acne on chest and forearms which was manageable with benzoyl peroxide wash daily,

Current peptides
2mg Retatrutide per week
2mg ghkcu daily
0.25mcg mt2 every 1-3 days

It’s now 2 weeks since my last pin and I’m still taking the 20mg nolvadex daily, and I feel like shit libido is not there energy is very hard to find too, my pumps are okay in the gym but they fade quickly as I lose energy fast.

I’m struggling trying to do this pct and not just buy more test and cruise on a trt dose before starting a proper blast which is my intention,

My diet hasn’t been super dialed in until now as I was losing fat and getting stronger throughout the whole cycle but am definitly keen to log everything from now on,

I know I probably missed some stuff so lmk anything else u guys need to know and cheers for the support keen to be apart of this community

Photos-
1st was on ostarine
2nd was start of the year right before cycle
3rd was on cycle

welcome fully to the EVO family good log start and you look lean and hard @Pinheadlarry

You should start doing TRT again and getting back on cycle, 250mgs test is the way now /week split dose.

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
Are you taking high doses Vitamin C?
how much creatine do you use ed?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

did you download our eBooks?
https://irongorillas.com

 

[2Thick]

My first testosterone cycle log

Hi everyone been lurking for a bit and listening to the podcasts a lot and wanted to start my first log, idk if this is too much or not enough information but I’m keen to hear everyone’s opinions.

Stats
24 years old
180cm
72.3kg (was around 75 on cycle)

I’ve been training for 6 years and until now the only PED I’ve touch was some “ostarine” I used a year and half ago, pretty sure it wasn’t ostarine as 4 weeks in I started getting get itchy and sensitive nips, went straight to doctor and my prolactin was 915mu/L which was 3x high end so yeah, when I got this tested my doctor didn’t test for estrogen and when I asked why he said as a male estrogen is not important and he doesn’t need to test for it,(ummm yeahhh)

Since then I hadn’t done anything else and had my test levels checked in July 2025 so 1 year ago and they were 10.4nmol, I will post physique photos from this time period was around 10% bf.

Now to current cycle at the start of this year I started taking Retatrutide just to help recomp then shortly after I decided to order some test as I knew my levels had always been low, (3nmol in 2022, 6nmol 3 months later, then 10.4 in 2025)

Cycle
250 test prop (35mg per day sub q, before bed)
For 16 weeks
The first 6 weeks I was feeling better than ever but started to get sensitive and puffy nips, idk if I was in my head and at this point I should of definitly had blood test I know I fucked up,

At week 8 I started taking 20mg nolvadex with my injection and this allowed me to continue my cycle for another 8 weeks,

Only other side effect was a bit of acne on chest and forearms which was manageable with benzoyl peroxide wash daily,

Current peptides
2mg Retatrutide per week
2mg ghkcu daily
0.25mcg mt2 every 1-3 days

It’s now 2 weeks since my last pin and I’m still taking the 20mg nolvadex daily, and I feel like shit libido is not there energy is very hard to find too, my pumps are okay in the gym but they fade quickly as I lose energy fast.

I’m struggling trying to do this pct and not just buy more test and cruise on a trt dose before starting a proper blast which is my intention,

My diet hasn’t been super dialed in until now as I was losing fat and getting stronger throughout the whole cycle but am definitly keen to log everything from now on,

I know I probably missed some stuff so lmk anything else u guys need to know and cheers for the support keen to be apart of this community

Photos-
1st was on ostarine
2nd was start of the year right before cycle
3rd was on cycle

Outstanding work on this. I like the mix of the GHK and RETA. I haven't seen too many people running that stack. @Pinheadlarry

 

[Mobster]

24 years old

Is too young IMO

 

[Pinheadlarry]

welcome fully to the EVO family good log start and you look lean and hard @Pinheadlarry

You should start doing TRT again and getting back on cycle, 250mgs test is the way now /week split dose.

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
Are you taking high doses Vitamin C?
how much creatine do you use ed?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

did you download our eBooks?
https://irongorillas.com

So you’re saying I should get back on 250 per week instead of finishing the pct? Just trying to make sure as a lot of people have said I need time off,
Gonna make a post in here tonight while I’m at the gym with all the information above

 

[Pinheadlarry]

Outstanding work on this. I like the mix of the GHK and RETA. I haven't seen too many people running that stack. @Pinheadlarry

Thanks bro yeah I’ve noticed good results from the ghkcu, skin looks better and mostly my hair would definitely recommend as it’s not very expensive either.

 

[Pinheadlarry]

24 years old

Is too young IMO

Too young for trt? Or too young to cycle or both?

 

[Thegame0006]

Great start to the log well done. Ill be following along.

As the boys have mentioned your flying blind without real blood work. If your in australia hit me up I have a good place, look em up called roidsafe. They do full panel test without it going to Medicare or my health record if you dont want it to. $60 bucks and accepted at heaps of pathology joints.

I would like to add firstly you need to make your mind up whether your blasting, cruising or your making a life changing decision to jump on trt / hrt.

Your bloods will tell you what you need to know, and you can re-evaluate from there what needs correcting.

I ran prop for my first ever cycle and it was incredible however it did make my left chest puppy in the nip area and leaving it untreated.. you know what happens from there.. then the PIP thats another story lol I had a third shoulder lol.

Enclomphene is another great tool that helps with raising that natural test while your on the peptides. My mates are running reta and glow and seeing crazy results just be sure to eat enough so you dont loose the muscle, or get some Tesamorelin and add 2mg to the weekly dose to up the Igf levels.

Glad you came to evo as your young, with heaps of potential and theres plenty of people here who can monitor things if you need the assistance.

While I agree to 250mg a week in some cases, you can get the same results with a dose of 125 and have blood levels of over 1700 which is more than what the natural levels could ever peak at natty. You can always go up from there and manage your acne and gyno correctly. Smashing nolva used to wreck my life. Hate the stuff but untill you address the root cause it has to be done..

Another alternative is getting some masteron and throwing in a low dose each week to your injections doesnt need to be much and it can control estorgen levels if you decide to hop back on test. I ran 3 bloods side by side over and over and each time I did this my range was night and day with good e2 levels. Better than a.i in my opinion.

Will follow along so keep it up

 

[Ulter]

My first testosterone cycle log

Hi everyone been lurking for a bit and listening to the podcasts a lot and wanted to start my first log, idk if this is too much or not enough information but I’m keen to hear everyone’s opinions.

Stats
24 years old
180cm
72.3kg (was around 75 on cycle)

I’ve been training for 6 years and until now the only PED I’ve touch was some “ostarine” I used a year and half ago, pretty sure it wasn’t ostarine as 4 weeks in I started getting get itchy and sensitive nips, went straight to doctor and my prolactin was 915mu/L which was 3x high end so yeah, when I got this tested my doctor didn’t test for estrogen and when I asked why he said as a male estrogen is not important and he doesn’t need to test for it,(ummm yeahhh)

Since then I hadn’t done anything else and had my test levels checked in July 2025 so 1 year ago and they were 10.4nmol, I will post physique photos from this time period was around 10% bf.

Now to current cycle at the start of this year I started taking Retatrutide just to help recomp then shortly after I decided to order some test as I knew my levels had always been low, (3nmol in 2022, 6nmol 3 months later, then 10.4 in 2025)

Cycle
250 test prop (35mg per day sub q, before bed)
For 16 weeks
The first 6 weeks I was feeling better than ever but started to get sensitive and puffy nips, idk if I was in my head and at this point I should of definitly had blood test I know I fucked up,

At week 8 I started taking 20mg nolvadex with my injection and this allowed me to continue my cycle for another 8 weeks,

Only other side effect was a bit of acne on chest and forearms which was manageable with benzoyl peroxide wash daily,

Current peptides
2mg Retatrutide per week
2mg ghkcu daily
0.25mcg mt2 every 1-3 days

It’s now 2 weeks since my last pin and I’m still taking the 20mg nolvadex daily, and I feel like shit libido is not there energy is very hard to find too, my pumps are okay in the gym but they fade quickly as I lose energy fast.

I’m struggling trying to do this pct and not just buy more test and cruise on a trt dose before starting a proper blast which is my intention,

My diet hasn’t been super dialed in until now as I was losing fat and getting stronger throughout the whole cycle but am definitly keen to log everything from now on,

I know I probably missed some stuff so lmk anything else u guys need to know and cheers for the support keen to be apart of this community

Photos-
1st was on ostarine
2nd was start of the year right before cycle
3rd was on cycle

Too young for trt? Or too young to cycle or both?

my view is if you can go shoot people in wars then you can juice @Pinheadlarry other people think differently. but trt is silly unless you have a medical condition you will need to be on forever
@Pinheadlarry

 

[Pinheadlarry]

Day 1 1/6/26
Hi everyone just wanted to log for today please let me know anything I should change or do differently with what I’m doing and the way I’m logging, cheers for all the support and advice

Getting blood test asap

Also I’ve had a lot of different opinions about what I should do next so any advice is much appreciated, weather that’s pct and if so how should I do it and what should I take, or go to trt levels before my next cycle,

Goals
Lose fat and get hormones in check before starting next cycle where I aim to grow.

Stats-
Weight 72.3kg
Height 180cm
Age 24

Diet
(not what I’ve been eating previously but my first day locked in and tracking strictly) will adjust the diet as needed.
2160 calories
221g carbs
53g fat
188g protein

Meal macros
Breakfast - 661 cal 57 carb 20 fat 61 protein
Lunch - 619 cal 64 carb 13 fat 59 protein
Pre workout - 241 cal 54 carbs 1 fat 3 protein
Dinner - 640 cal 47 carb 19 fat 65 protein

Meal timing is
4:30-5:30 breakfast (work dependant but usually 5:30)
Lunch 12:00
Pre workout usually around 5-6pm
Dinner around 8pm sometimes 9
Meals are split pretty evenly about 50-60 protein for breakfast lunch and dinner with no protein pre workout just carbs,

Currently doing push pull legs rest repeat but open to trying a new split as I’ve been doing this for years and feel like I’m spinning my wheels, saying that I haven’t tracked progress or nutrition properly in over a year apart from protein.
-11.9k steps today
-sleep score last night 74 with 5hr 39mins sleep(not ideal usually happens on a Sunday night for me)
Don’t have a proper training log but will start logging every lift from now,

Supplements (daily)
Magnesium glycinate 600mg
Zinc 20mg
Vitamin d3 3000iu
Creatine 5g
Omega3 fish oil 3000mg (900epa 540dha)

Peptides
Ghkcu 2mg daily
Mt2 250mcg every 2 to 3 days
Retatrutide 2mg per week (split twice per week)

Nolvadex 20mg per day

Thanks everyone for being so supportive and welcoming, so happy to be a part of this community

 

[Pinheadlarry]

my view is if you can go shoot people in wars then you can juice @Pinheadlarry other people think differently. but trt is silly unless you have a medical condition you will need to be on forever
@Pinheadlarry

Okay so ur saying in your opinion I’m old enough to do cycles then pct rather than blast and cruise going from trt to blast right? Also in my position after 16 weeks on test what would u do now?

 

[Pinheadlarry]

Day 1 1/6/26
Hi everyone just wanted to log for today please let me know anything I should change or do differently with what I’m doing and the way I’m logging, cheers for all the support and advice

Getting blood test asap

Also I’ve had a lot of different opinions about what I should do next so any advice is much appreciated, weather that’s pct and if so how should I do it and what should I take, or go to trt levels before my next cycle,

Goals
Lose fat and get hormones in check before starting next cycle where I aim to grow.

Stats-
Weight 72.3kg
Height 180cm
Age 24

Diet
(not what I’ve been eating previously but my first day locked in and tracking strictly) will adjust the diet as needed.
2160 calories
221g carbs
53g fat
188g protein

Meal macros
Breakfast - 661 cal 57 carb 20 fat 61 protein
Lunch - 619 cal 64 carb 13 fat 59 protein
Pre workout - 241 cal 1 fat 3 protein
Dinner - 640 cal 47 carb 19 fat 65 protein

Meal timing is
4:30-5:30 breakfast (work dependant but usually 5:30)
Lunch 12:00
Pre workout usually around 5-6pm
Dinner around 8pm sometimes 9
Meals are split pretty evenly about 50-60 protein for breakfast lunch and dinner with no protein pre workout just carbs,

Currently doing push pull legs rest repeat but open to trying a new split as I’ve been doing this for years and feel like I’m spinning my wheels, saying that I haven’t tracked progress or nutrition properly in over a year apart from protein.
-11.9k steps today
-sleep score last night 74 with 5hr 39mins sleep(not ideal usually happens on a Sunday night for me)
Don’t have a proper training log but will start logging every lift from now,

Supplements (daily)
Magnesium glycinate 600mg
Zinc 20mg
Vitamin d3 3000iu
Creatine 5g
Omega3 fish oil 3000mg (900epa 540dha)

Peptides
Ghkcu 2mg daily
Mt2 250mcg every 2 to 3 days
Retatrutide 2mg per week (split twice per week)

Nolvadex 20mg per day

Thanks everyone for being so supportive and welcoming, so happy to be a part of this community

Also am running very low on nolvadex so I need to decide weather to buy more and if I should get enclomiphene too or buy more test

 

[Pinheadlarry]

Great start to the log well done. Ill be following along.

As the boys have mentioned your flying blind without real blood work. If your in australia hit me up I have a good place, look em up called roidsafe. They do full panel test without it going to Medicare or my health record if you dont want it to. $60 bucks and accepted at heaps of pathology joints.

I would like to add firstly you need to make your mind up whether your blasting, cruising or your making a life changing decision to jump on trt / hrt.

Your bloods will tell you what you need to know, and you can re-evaluate from there what needs correcting.

I ran prop for my first ever cycle and it was incredible however it did make my left chest puppy in the nip area and leaving it untreated.. you know what happens from there.. then the PIP thats another story lol I had a third shoulder lol.

Enclomphene is another great tool that helps with raising that natural test while your on the peptides. My mates are running reta and glow and seeing crazy results just be sure to eat enough so you dont loose the muscle, or get some Tesamorelin and add 2mg to the weekly dose to up the Igf levels.

Glad you came to evo as your young, with heaps of potential and theres plenty of people here who can monitor things if you need the assistance.

While I agree to 250mg a week in some cases, you can get the same results with a dose of 125 and have blood levels of over 1700 which is more than what the natural levels could ever peak at natty. You can always go up from there and manage your acne and gyno correctly. Smashing nolva used to wreck my life. Hate the stuff but untill you address the root cause it has to be done..

Another alternative is getting some masteron and throwing in a low dose each week to your injections doesnt need to be much and it can control estorgen levels if you decide to hop back on test. I ran 3 bloods side by side over and over and each time I did this my range was night and day with good e2 levels. Better than a.i in my opinion.

Will follow along so keep it up

Yeah I’m getting blood tests as soon as my medi gets approved hopefully this week, when u say blasting cruising or making the life changing choice of trt by blasting and cruising do u mean like cycling then doing pct ? Sorry was a bit confused I thought blast and cruise was trt then blast then back to trt. Appreciate all the advice and yeah nolvadex hasn’t been ideal for tackling the root problems just prevented me getting gyno but have felt the other e2 sides (assuming that’s what it’s from without bloods)
Im definitly keen to try something like mast or eq with my next cycle when ever that may be to manage estrogen as I’ve heard ais are pretty bad for u but haven’t tried them so maybe something I need to try first,

 

[LevButlerov]

So you’re saying I should get back on 250 per week instead of finishing the pct? Just trying to make sure as a lot of people have said I need time off,
Gonna make a post in here tonight while I’m at the gym with all the information above

It seems you dont have a real pct plan going, you can add hcg and hcgenerate to your TRT @Pinheadlarry

this is how you do Bridge before TRT
125mgs test/week
500ius HCG 3x/week
5caps hcgenerate/day
5mgs tamoxifen/day

 

[Pinheadlarry]

It seems you dont have a real pct plan going, you can add hcg and hcgenerate to your TRT @Pinheadlarry

this is how you do Bridge before TRT
125mgs test/week
500ius HCG 3x/week
5caps hcgenerate/day
5mgs tamoxifen/day

Hey bro so this is a life decision if I decide to start trt right? Also few questions what will happen to my fertility?
Is it possible to come off ever?
And is this the best decision for me? Ive had a lot of mixed responses from people and seems like I still have an extremely tough decision to make.
Cheers bro

 

[Pinheadlarry]

Hey bro so this is a life decision if I decide to start trt right? Also few questions what will happen to my fertility?
Is it possible to come off ever?
And is this the best decision for me? Ive had a lot of mixed responses from people and seems like I still have an extremely tough decision to make.
Cheers bro

Also forgot sorry why tamoxifene over nolvadex?

 

[ROIDDERS]

So you’re saying I should get back on 250 per week instead of finishing the pct? Just trying to make sure as a lot of people have said I need time off,
Gonna make a post in here tonight while I’m at the gym with all the information above

@Pinheadlarry it really is up to you man. at the end of the day you are responsible for what goes in and out of your body

 

[ceo]

Hey bro so this is a life decision if I decide to start trt right? Also few questions what will happen to my fertility?
Is it possible to come off ever?
And is this the best decision for me? Ive had a lot of mixed responses from people and seems like I still have an extremely tough decision to make.
Cheers bro

bros if you go on for more then 25-30 weeks then it gets harder to come off. a year or more almost impossible. some dudes claim they recovered but never seen proof @Pinheadlarry

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey bro so this is a life decision if I decide to start trt right? Also few questions what will happen to my fertility?
Is it possible to come off ever?
And is this the best decision for me? Ive had a lot of mixed responses from people and seems like I still have an extremely tough decision to make.
Cheers bro

not exactly life long, we have EVO brothers who come off and have kids @Pinheadlarry

 

[LevButlerov]

not exactly life long, we have EVO brothers who come off and have kids @Pinheadlarry

i'll give you a list of their logs for fertility recovery @Pinheadlarry

@CypherOCE - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tle-operation-baby-cypher-baby-bottle.105563/
@bss - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...is-trt-recovery-protocol-with-hcg-hmg.106749/

 

[LevButlerov]

Day 1 1/6/26
Hi everyone just wanted to log for today please let me know anything I should change or do differently with what I’m doing and the way I’m logging, cheers for all the support and advice

Getting blood test asap

Also I’ve had a lot of different opinions about what I should do next so any advice is much appreciated, weather that’s pct and if so how should I do it and what should I take, or go to trt levels before my next cycle,

Goals
Lose fat and get hormones in check before starting next cycle where I aim to grow.

Stats-
Weight 72.3kg
Height 180cm
Age 24

Diet
(not what I’ve been eating previously but my first day locked in and tracking strictly) will adjust the diet as needed.
2160 calories
221g carbs
53g fat
188g protein

Meal macros
Breakfast - 661 cal 57 carb 20 fat 61 protein
Lunch - 619 cal 64 carb 13 fat 59 protein
Pre workout - 241 cal 54 carbs 1 fat 3 protein
Dinner - 640 cal 47 carb 19 fat 65 protein

Meal timing is
4:30-5:30 breakfast (work dependant but usually 5:30)
Lunch 12:00
Pre workout usually around 5-6pm
Dinner around 8pm sometimes 9
Meals are split pretty evenly about 50-60 protein for breakfast lunch and dinner with no protein pre workout just carbs,

Currently doing push pull legs rest repeat but open to trying a new split as I’ve been doing this for years and feel like I’m spinning my wheels, saying that I haven’t tracked progress or nutrition properly in over a year apart from protein.
-11.9k steps today
-sleep score last night 74 with 5hr 39mins sleep(not ideal usually happens on a Sunday night for me)
Don’t have a proper training log but will start logging every lift from now,

Supplements (daily)
Magnesium glycinate 600mg
Zinc 20mg
Vitamin d3 3000iu
Creatine 5g
Omega3 fish oil 3000mg (900epa 540dha)

Peptides
Ghkcu 2mg daily
Mt2 250mcg every 2 to 3 days
Retatrutide 2mg per week (split twice per week)

Nolvadex 20mg per day

Thanks everyone for being so supportive and welcoming, so happy to be a part of this community

this is a good way to log, but do you use an app to record food? @Pinheadlarry

 

[Pinheadlarry]

this is a good way to log, but do you use an app to record food? @Pinheadlarry

Yeah I just started using my fitness pal again

 

[ballin2504]

My first testosterone cycle log

Hi everyone been lurking for a bit and listening to the podcasts a lot and wanted to start my first log, idk if this is too much or not enough information but I’m keen to hear everyone’s opinions.

Stats
24 years old
180cm
72.3kg (was around 75 on cycle)

I’ve been training for 6 years and until now the only PED I’ve touch was some “ostarine” I used a year and half ago, pretty sure it wasn’t ostarine as 4 weeks in I started getting get itchy and sensitive nips, went straight to doctor and my prolactin was 915mu/L which was 3x high end so yeah, when I got this tested my doctor didn’t test for estrogen and when I asked why he said as a male estrogen is not important and he doesn’t need to test for it,(ummm yeahhh)

Since then I hadn’t done anything else and had my test levels checked in July 2025 so 1 year ago and they were 10.4nmol, I will post physique photos from this time period was around 10% bf.

Now to current cycle at the start of this year I started taking Retatrutide just to help recomp then shortly after I decided to order some test as I knew my levels had always been low, (3nmol in 2022, 6nmol 3 months later, then 10.4 in 2025)

Cycle
250 test prop (35mg per day sub q, before bed)
For 16 weeks
The first 6 weeks I was feeling better than ever but started to get sensitive and puffy nips, idk if I was in my head and at this point I should of definitly had blood test I know I fucked up,

At week 8 I started taking 20mg nolvadex with my injection and this allowed me to continue my cycle for another 8 weeks,

Only other side effect was a bit of acne on chest and forearms which was manageable with benzoyl peroxide wash daily,

Current peptides
2mg Retatrutide per week
2mg ghkcu daily
0.25mcg mt2 every 1-3 days

It’s now 2 weeks since my last pin and I’m still taking the 20mg nolvadex daily, and I feel like shit libido is not there energy is very hard to find too, my pumps are okay in the gym but they fade quickly as I lose energy fast.

I’m struggling trying to do this pct and not just buy more test and cruise on a trt dose before starting a proper blast which is my intention,

My diet hasn’t been super dialed in until now as I was losing fat and getting stronger throughout the whole cycle but am definitly keen to log everything from now on,

I know I probably missed some stuff so lmk anything else u guys need to know and cheers for the support keen to be apart of this community

Photos-
1st was on ostarine
2nd was start of the year right before cycle
3rd was on cycle

@pineheadlarry great start to the log brother. Glad to have you on here logging. I’ll definitely be following along

 

[Pinheadlarry]

Tha

@pineheadlarry great start to the log brother. Glad to have you on here logging. I’ll definitely be following along

Thanks bro excited to get this thing rolling

 

[LevButlerov]

Yeah I just started using my fitness pal again

perfect

 

[Pinheadlarry]

Looking to order today this is what I’m planning

Test e 250mg/ml
Hcg 5000iu
Nolvadex 20mg

I think I’m gonna start 125 mg test per week hcg 500iu 3x per week and still not sure about nolvadex amount,
Anyone have any advice and is this a good plan?
The gear will take 1-2days to get here so I’ll be starting end of this week

 

[LevButlerov]

Looking to order today this is what I’m planning

Test e 250mg/ml
Hcg 5000iu
Nolvadex 20mg

I think I’m gonna start 125 mg test per week hcg 500iu 3x per week and still not sure about nolvadex amount,
Anyone have any advice and is this a good plan?
The gear will take 1-2days to get here so I’ll be starting end of this week

nolva do 10mgs and add hcgenerate

 

[Pinheadlarry]

nolva do 10mgs and add hcgenerate

Okay trying to find where to get hcgenerate in Aus rn thanks bro

 

[LevButlerov]

Okay trying to find where to get hcgenerate in Aus rn thanks bro

n2bm official distributor ships to AU @Pinheadlarry https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/pct/hcgenerate-n2generate/

 

[Pinheadlarry]

Okay sweet as thanks for the help I’ve made an order for
Test e
Hcg
Nolvadex
And hcgenerate I’ll order now

How long would u suggest running this for or just until bloods show good levels?

 

[LevButlerov]

Okay sweet as thanks for the help I’ve made an order for
Test e
Hcg
Nolvadex
And hcgenerate I’ll order now

How long would u suggest running this for or just until bloods show good levels?

lets get the gear in first, you buy all now?

 

[Pinheadlarry]

lets get the gear in first, you buy all now?

Yeah I’m trying to buy the test hcg and nolvadex rn just waiting on response, do I 100% need the hcgenerate? It’s so expensive and apparently it’s not necessary when going on a trt cruise?

 

[Ulter]

Okay so ur saying in your opinion I’m old enough to do cycles then pct rather than blast and cruise going from trt to blast right? Also in my position after 16 weeks on test what would u do now?

Yes, I would definitely take time off in between cycles if you want to keep your HPTA healthy. The longer you stay off, the better.

 

[2Thick]

Thanks bro yeah I’ve noticed good results from the ghkcu, skin looks better and mostly my hair would definitely recommend as it’s not very expensive either.

That's definitely what people report on GHK.

 

[Pinheadlarry]

Day 2

Had a really busy day yesterday but still managed to eat on track and train back so I’m pretty happy with that,

Morning weight: 72.4kg (+0.1)

Calories and macros are in attachments,
Also am starting new 5 day training split tomorrow so will be tracking everything workout wise and posting here too,
Also have ordered test e, hcg, and nolvadex so will have that very shortly.
Thanks evo family

 

[LevButlerov]

Yeah I’m trying to buy the test hcg and nolvadex rn just waiting on response, do I 100% need the hcgenerate? It’s so expensive and apparently it’s not necessary when going on a trt cruise?

if you are on a tight budget you dont have to buy hcgenerate but I would buy it 1 bottle worth it for a bridge

 

[LevButlerov]

Day 2

Had a really busy day yesterday but still managed to eat on track and train back so I’m pretty happy with that,

Morning weight: 72.4kg (+0.1)

Calories and macros are in attachments,
Also am starting new 5 day training split tomorrow so will be tracking everything workout wise and posting here too,
Also have ordered test e, hcg, and nolvadex so will have that very shortly.
Thanks evo family

good day but we need protein to push over 200

 

[Pinheadlarry]

Day 3

Had a good day today managed to get the protein up but not sure if calories need to be lowered, trained legs today but was a short one as it was getting late will post screenshot of the session,(not gonna be my actual leg day I’m currently re writing my split)

Steps - 10.9k
Morning weight - forgot to weigh myself (slack I know)
Gear should be here tomorrow so excited to start my bridge

 

[Pinheadlarry]

Just injected my daily 2mg ghkcu on the right side instead of my usual left side and holy fuck am in some intense pain rn

 

[HarleyGuy]

Day 1 1/6/26
Hi everyone just wanted to log for today please let me know anything I should change or do differently with what I’m doing and the way I’m logging, cheers for all the support and advice

Getting blood test asap

Also I’ve had a lot of different opinions about what I should do next so any advice is much appreciated, weather that’s pct and if so how should I do it and what should I take, or go to trt levels before my next cycle,

Goals
Lose fat and get hormones in check before starting next cycle where I aim to grow.

Stats-
Weight 72.3kg
Height 180cm
Age 24

Diet
(not what I’ve been eating previously but my first day locked in and tracking strictly) will adjust the diet as needed.
2160 calories
221g carbs
53g fat
188g protein

Meal macros
Breakfast - 661 cal 57 carb 20 fat 61 protein
Lunch - 619 cal 64 carb 13 fat 59 protein
Pre workout - 241 cal 54 carbs 1 fat 3 protein
Dinner - 640 cal 47 carb 19 fat 65 protein

Meal timing is
4:30-5:30 breakfast (work dependant but usually 5:30)
Lunch 12:00
Pre workout usually around 5-6pm
Dinner around 8pm sometimes 9
Meals are split pretty evenly about 50-60 protein for breakfast lunch and dinner with no protein pre workout just carbs,

Currently doing push pull legs rest repeat but open to trying a new split as I’ve been doing this for years and feel like I’m spinning my wheels, saying that I haven’t tracked progress or nutrition properly in over a year apart from protein.
-11.9k steps today
-sleep score last night 74 with 5hr 39mins sleep(not ideal usually happens on a Sunday night for me)
Don’t have a proper training log but will start logging every lift from now,

Supplements (daily)
Magnesium glycinate 600mg
Zinc 20mg
Vitamin d3 3000iu
Creatine 5g
Omega3 fish oil 3000mg (900epa 540dha)

Peptides
Ghkcu 2mg daily
Mt2 250mcg every 2 to 3 days
Retatrutide 2mg per week (split twice per week)

Nolvadex 20mg per day

Thanks everyone for being so supportive and welcoming, so happy to be a part of this community

Welcome officially to EVO Logging and the Family bro!

my doctor didn’t test for estrogen and when I asked why he said as a male estrogen is not important and he doesn’t need to test for it

It amazes me how ignorant most of them seem to be to such an important part of a full bloodwork panel!

At week 8 I started taking 20mg nolvadex with my injection and this allowed me to continue my cycle for another 8 weeks

This wouldn't have helped prolactin though, but your e2 might have been high with those sides too. You can cut this in half now anyway.

188g protein

You can easily up this to 240g

open to trying a new split

Try dropsets and AMRAP's to spice things up

Don’t have a proper training log

You do here now!

Getting blood test asap

Yes please, ASAP

Thanks everyone for being so supportive and welcoming, so happy to be a part of this community

We're happy you're here bro!

 

[Pinheadlarry]

Welcome officially to EVO Logging and the Family bro!


It amazes me how ignorant most of them seem to be to such an important part of a full bloodwork panel!


This wouldn't have helped prolactin though, but your e2 might have been high with those sides too. You can cut this in half now anyway.


You can easily up this to 240g


Try dropsets and AMRAP's to spice things up


You do here now!


Yes please, ASAP


We're happy you're here bro!

Thanks bro so happy to be here support and knowledge from everyone is amazing, I’ve been binging the podcasts and reading logs every day,

 

[Pinheadlarry]

This wouldn't have helped prolactin though, but your e2 might have been high with those sides too. You can cut this in half now anyway.

Yeah prolactin was definitely an oversight and without bloods who knows, can prolactin shoot up from just test? My blood test when I took mk2866 showed I had 900+ which was like 3x high end

 

[toddthelineman]

Yeah I’m trying to buy the test hcg and nolvadex rn just waiting on response, do I 100% need the hcgenerate? It’s so expensive and apparently it’s not necessary when going on a trt cruise?

If I may butt in, HCgenerate is expensive, but the bottles are pretty big. And the big thing is: most supplements are trash. N2BM’s supplements are not trash. They are what they say they are and they really work. Hcgenerate worked about as good as hcg for me. I had minor testicular atrophy. I started taking it, and within a day I had the classic ache in my balls and they were near full size within a week. N2Guard is also very good, fixed my liver enzymes that other supplements didn’t touch and it wound up being cheaper than the whole list of stuff I was taking that didn’t even work. Cardazol is their preworkout. Also very good. The stuff isn’t cheap but the quality is unmatched. I get nothing for saying this, it’s just the truth

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Day 3

Had a good day today managed to get the protein up but not sure if calories need to be lowered, trained legs today but was a short one as it was getting late will post screenshot of the session,(not gonna be my actual leg day I’m currently re writing my split)

Steps - 10.9k
Morning weight - forgot to weigh myself (slack I know)
Gear should be here tomorrow so excited to start my bridge

@Pinheadlarry Good updates man....keep it up.....

 

[LevButlerov]

Day 3

Had a good day today managed to get the protein up but not sure if calories need to be lowered, trained legs today but was a short one as it was getting late will post screenshot of the session,(not gonna be my actual leg day I’m currently re writing my split)

Steps - 10.9k
Morning weight - forgot to weigh myself (slack I know)
Gear should be here tomorrow so excited to start my bridge

good level of macros today

 

[Pinheadlarry]

Day 4

Busy day today, rest day no gym,
Had more calories today sort of unsure if I should be eating around 2000 or 2500 as I am trying to lose fat and recomp but at the same time I know I need calories right now to not lose an muscle and support my hormones but lmk.
Also house mate had the scale in their bathroom so wasn’t gonna go into their room at 5am will buy my own on way home from work tomorrow so I can have consistent weigh in every morning,
Also started using macro factor today instead of my fitness pal and I like it so ill be using this from now on along with new training app starting tomorrow for push day .
Edit - gear didn’t arrive today so hopefully hoping for tomorrow

 

[LevButlerov]

Day 4

Busy day today, rest day no gym,
Had more calories today sort of unsure if I should be eating around 2000 or 2500 as I am trying to lose fat and recomp but at the same time I know I need calories right now to not lose an muscle and support my hormones but lmk.
Also house mate had the scale in their bathroom so wasn’t gonna go into their room at 5am will buy my own on way home from work tomorrow so I can have consistent weigh in every morning,
Also started using macro factor today instead of my fitness pal and I like it so ill be using this from now on along with new training app starting tomorrow for push day .
Edit - gear didn’t arrive today so hopefully hoping for tomorrow

good rest day keep protein high!