Back to back cycles?

[RayRay12]

Hi, I'm coming off my very first bulking cycle, which consisted of test E, Decca and anadrol...it was basically test for the first 5 weeks and then test continued, Decca and anadrol added in at 5 weeks for a 10 week cycle....my question is I get mixed answers when asking about going from a bulking cycle right into a cutting cycle? Some people say it's ok some people say no, to take time off in between...so I know I will be guided the right way on here...? Also when I do get on the cutting cycle what are reccomendations on how to run it, I am doing roid mass's beginner cutting cycle:
Beginner Cutting Cycle

8 week Cutting cycle
*300mgs of testosterone propionate/week
*150mgs of trenbolone acetate/week
*100mgs of masteron enanthate/week

Do I pin once a week everything on the same day? Etc...?

Thanks!!!

 

[Bgunz]

You should take off minimum same amount of time you were on cycle plus the time you were on PCT. So if 10 week cycle 2 week wait period and a 4 week PCT that's 16 weeks minimum off. Give your body time to relax and clear itself. If you run the right PCT you will keep 90-95% of gains.

As far as Cycle you have test prop and Tren Ace both need every other day injections that equal the dose your looking for, Mast E is a longer ester chain so for 300mg you pin 150 on Monday's and 150on Thursdays. I would just run test E and Mast E then the Tren separate or you could run enthanate for all 3 the only issue if you have a bad reaction to Tren it takes longer to clear your body. Also you need an AI and anti prolactin as well as cardarine. Do not attempt this without those ancillaries you are just asking for trouble.

 

[muskate]

If you have been on for 10 weeks, it's time to get off and run a PCT. No one likes getting off steroids but it's important to run PCTs to allow your body's natural testosterone production to recover. Doing a 18 week cycle for your first cycle is a terrible idea. The longer you are on steroids, the harder it will be to get your body's natural testosterone production to recover.

Before you do anything, you need to run a full and thorough PCT after your 10 week cycle. I recommend the perfect PCT protocol -> http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

After the perfect PCT, take some time off and then get blood work done to make sure everything is in the normal range. If your blood works comes back good, then you can start your next cycle.

Test prop and tren ace have short acting esters and need to be injected EOD or MWF. Masteron enanthate has a very long ester and needs to only be injected once per week.

A test/tren cycle needs 3 main support supplements:
1. An AI like aromasin to keep estrogen in the low-normal range
2. An anti-prolactin drug like cabergoline to keep prolactin in the low-normal range
3. Cardarine to increase fat loss, endurance and prevent tren related side effects like tren cough

Here is how I would run the 8 week cutting cycle:

Weeks 1 - 8
testosterone propionate 100mg MWF
trenbolone acetate 50mg MWF
masteron enanthate 100mg W
aromasin 10mg EOD
cabergoline 0.25mg EOD
cardarine 20mg/day

 

[jp4355]

1st off ~ you screwed-up your 1st Bulking Cycle.
Deca has a 14 Day Half-Life, and it takes 4 to 5 Half-Lives to reach Peak Blood Plasma Levels.
So you didn't even reach Peak Plasma, let alone reach "Steady State".
Steady State is where your Hormone Levels rise and fall within a 2-Fold Window.

Rule of Thumb for Time Off after any Cycle.
Time on + PCT = Time Off.
But having said that, you really need to be doing Bloodwork to know what's going on.

3 ~ Bloodwork Draws with Every Cycle.
Pre-Cycle ~ to get a Baseline and make sure you're healthy enough to do AAS.
Mid-Cycle ~ check all hormone levels and quality of gear.
Post-Cycle ~ 4 to 6 Weeks after PCT ~ to make sure you returned to Baseline, or close, No Abnormal Blood Markers.

For this Cutting Cycle.
You should switch the Mast Enanthate for Mast Propionate.
This way all 3 Compounds are Short Esters, and you can do all 3 every other day in the same syringe.
So you'll need a 3 CC Barrel........................................................ JP
P.S.
Also, you didn't mention which AI you're using.
Nor did you mention a PCT Protocol.

 

[Jay Scott]

If you care about your health and you are not professional bodybuilder, you will not do back-to-back cycles.

Its super heavy on your whole system and you might want to check up on your bloods once in a while

 

[RayRay12]

Thank you for the info!

- - - Updated - - -

Ok this is great, thanks!

 

[stevesmi]

there is no such things as back to back cycles. what does that even mean?

cycling steroids is time on= time off.. rinse and repeat. what you are saying is blasting and then blasting again. basically staying on high dosages of gear for an extended time again .. if you do this you will be at risk of destroying your HPTA + putting incredible strain on your bodies health

you need to come off.. pct properly.. then allow your body to fully recover. it can take many months for this to happen. and you need to run blood work http://goo.gl/kDk0zS <save 10% on bloodwork

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

I would highly recommend doing a PCT and taking time off. Basically if you did your 10 week cycle plus a 6 week PCT, you want to take 16 weeks off after your PCT before another cycle. This is best for your health and how you will respond to the drugs.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hi, I'm coming off my very first bulking cycle, which consisted of test E, Decca and anadrol...it was basically test for the first 5 weeks and then test continued, Decca and anadrol added in at 5 weeks for a 10 week cycle....my question is I get mixed answers when asking about going from a bulking cycle right into a cutting cycle? Some people say it's ok some people say no, to take time off in between...so I know I will be guided the right way on here...? Also when I do get on the cutting cycle what are reccomendations on how to run it, I am doing roid mass's beginner cutting cycle:
Beginner Cutting Cycle

8 week Cutting cycle
*300mgs of testosterone propionate/week
*150mgs of trenbolone acetate/week
*100mgs of masteron enanthate/week

Do I pin once a week everything on the same day? Etc...?

Thanks!!!

You already ran quite a harsh cycle, and did so in a way that is far from being optimal. So better take some time off - first run a proper PCT protocol in order to get recovered, and then way at least another 10 weeks before starting the next cycle. Next time make sure to have all the gear and ancillaries before starting the cycle - this kind of improvisations never end up well.

Sincerely, I would rather advise you to run a lean bulking cycle, instead of bulking first, and then cutting - this is too much stress for the body, and it makes much more sense to go directly to the point where you want to be, rather than run around it.

 

[RayRay12]

I was wondering if you knew a source where I could get Cabergoline? And when I do start this cutting cycle do you think 75mg instead of 50mg of Tren Ace M/W/F would be ok?

 

[Bgunz]

You can get all from Roidmass, caber and Tren+ test. If you just need caber check out Agguys. It is dostinex