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You do know that you're not going to achieve your goal in a single cycle, right, grapes5?
sub_squoch
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Exactly!
It required eleven years and twenty-two cycles for me to gain thirty pounds of muscle.
And that's just one of the many differences between ectomorphs such as myself, and mesomorphs such as yourself, Mobster. As such, it is far more difficult and time-consuming for a 5'11", 157lb. ectomorph to gain thirty pounds of muscle than what it is for a, say, 5'11", 190lb. mesomorph to gain thirty pounds of muscle. You can trust me on that one because 157 was exactly how much I weighed eleven years ago.
So, how long have you actually been training?
I don't wanna discourage you are not going to add that much lean muscle tissue over night. Bodybuilding is a marathon, not a sprint.
Lurkintolern
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Amen to that!! I was 120lbs when I came out of basic training at 18yo. I'm currently at 150lb and I've been training naturally for the past 10 years, heavily & consistently for the past 3 years. I was at around 180# when I started (fat ass). Mind you I did one SARMs cycle about 6-7 months ago. So yeah, ectomorphs don't exactly grow at any break neck pace, very frustrating but it is what it is
How tall and how old are you, Lurkintolern?
I'm out! I'm out! I'm out!
I'm out! I'm out! I'm out!
sub_squoch
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Frustrating being an endomorph too - not from a growing perspective but from a cutting perspective - trust me!!
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there is no bulking quick in this game. either do it right or don't do it
with your stats your problem is lack of muscle mass. that will take years to build via the weight room, not from 1 cycle
I don't like when anyone says they are trying to bulk up fast. That typically leads to fat gain and struggling to cut for the next x amount of years.
Lurkintolern
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5' 9" / 39yo. So I've got my skinny fat genes & time working against me at this point.
Both Eddie and you have made good gains over time
Lurkintolern
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It's been an uphill battle but I've definitely started to see a difference the last couple of years. Still wish I had started a little earlier in life but the party days were pretty fun too
if you are physically healthy at 39 you still have years ahead of you
For most endo's that is abundantly true, sub. I cut very easily and well, and you bulk easily and well. Perhaps that's just all there is to it.
sub_squoch
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Genetics plays a huge part in all of this that's for sure! Thanks to trevor, I'm finally beginning to learn to eat for my body type and that helping tremendously. I've always been built/big, even naturally, but being slim/trim/cut has never happened for me. Now I'm working towards that goal
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Yes, just as I finally learned how to eat and use AAS towards the transformation of my once typically ectomorphic skinny self, so too can you learn to eat and the like towards your becoming shredded.
I'm totally stoked for you, bro! Keep it up!
sub_squoch
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Oh I'm on it! I'm the leanest I've ever been right now and have made huge strides towards that goal in the last 2.5 months. Thanks!!
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Don't thank me, bro, thank yourself. I simply pointed out the obvious.
Yeah, it's all you. Know that!
You keep giving me the credit but you did everything dude. You're the one who put the work in
I just gave you a little bit of advice
sub_squoch
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You gave me direction and knowledge and I'm all about knowledge (as you know with all my questions!). But yea man I take the credit for the workYou keep giving me the credit but you did everything dude. You're the one who put the work in
I just gave you a little bit of advice
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Trevor puts together some of the best plans I have ever seen. If you stick to them you will absolutely see results. That is this very case with sub. He is putting in the hard work and it is paying off. Great job bud.
sub_squoch
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