Best Illegal Weight Loss supplement?

[Lonedrood]

Hey all, I'm 22 and from the Uk, North Wales... I was 20 stone roughly 2 years ago and now am 12 stone and 16% body fat, I'm looking to drop around 1 stone more and 5% body fat roughly before i start bulking, i've always done weights and im kinda ripped but always had a very low carb diet so gains were not really possible, i've hit a wall were im struggling to lose that last stone of weight before i start my bulk and begin my bulking diet,

So my question is.... Does anyone from the UK have any GOOD weight loss drugs sources? Or can anyone reccomend a GOOD weight loss drug? I've always used basic fat burners but looking for alittle more kick to help me with that last stone , Any critisism is welcome ofcourse, Thanks in advance.

Dean

 

[Lonedrood]

EDIT: When i say ripped, I meant i've got a good amount of muscle mass, Ripped wasnt the best choice of words, Also thought i'd add my height... 5"11, also good BP and cholesterol levels.

So far Clenbuterol is looking good! Thinking of Liquiclen from AG-Guys.com

 

[trank406]

The best illegal weight loss supplement I've used in the past is Crystal Meth bro. I would advise against that because it's neurotoxic.. very toxic in general no matter what unless you're getting pharm grade Desoxyn in which case that's a little safer because each pill only contains 5mgs of Methamptamine hydrochloride and it's for obesity or for people with severe ADHD/ADD. And they only give it to patients who are really obese and monitor it like crazy for a month or two and that's it.

Having said that.. there are much better alternatives. The only reason why I stated Meth was because I was already lean in my early twenties. But I went from 10% body fat to 4% bf it now lower in just a matter of months. But it's very catabolic and I was also taking designer steroids like Superdrol and shit like Spawn ( Epistane and Tren ) back when the shit was legal and those two things are very toxic to the liver and kidneys as well and combining meth and steroids could leave to death eventually. Did I make stupid choices back then when I was young? Yes.. I will admit that! But I had a killer physique and I didn't think about the consequences but that's the problem with kids now a days is they want quick results. I'm sure someone in here will chime in and tell you about the Sarms triple stack.. and to be honest with you that's the safest way to go is SARMS because they have very little suppression.. but the results are quite nice and you can maintain the size you'll get and weight loss from them!

Other then that there's also Need2Slin which you can take before any meal containing carbs.. it's a safe insulin supplement that a lot of guys here have been talking about. Or you can even do an ECA stack ( Ephedrine/Caffeine/Aspirin ) try and find some baby aspirin though and you really don't need the aspirin.. it just aborbs the other shit that you're taking better. Other then that there are a lot of things you can find.. you just have to be careful with what you put in your body and try and stay away from the shit that can be addicting. I was fond of amphetamines for a long time and relied on them for a lot of things besides the gym but addiction is a bitch and I'm happy to be clean and sober for 4 years. Just don't do what I did to get quick results and get in great shape by mixing speed with oral steroids.. because I should of died from that but God wanted me here for a reason I guess! If you have any more questions you can pm me but I'm sure the other guys here can also chime in for more advice! Everyone will always tell you though the number two things you must have is a great diet.. and exercise. Switch up your routines and try and add in cardio at least 3 times a week!

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ good post trank

and I would add that cardio is the absolute best way to burn off fat. even just 15 minutes of high intensity per day while eliminating junk food is all it takes. that's it. can you really not spare just 15 minutes of your day and laying off the cheesecake and pizza?

not the answer you were looking for but its the truth. plus cardio is so healthy for your body vs. taking some nasty drug like clen, DNP or T3.

 

[Lonedrood]

Really appreciate the reply trank, some good info! alot to take in.... Yeah i would avoid the addictive drugs like meth i think, I've purchased clenbuterol liquid form so will be giving that a run. Again... really appreciate all that info, was a good read thanks bro

 

[Lonedrood]

Hey Steve, Thanks for the reply, Agree that cardio is best but i should of mentioned i ran 5-7 miles a day on my cardio days which is how i lost all the weight, my diet is clean but its genuinely a wall i've hit were i'm not dropping weight and i cant be gaining muscle with my super low carb/calorie in take so i'm not sure why the scales arent moving, i'm just stuck around 12 stone, I've just bought some liquid clen and hoping this will give me that nudge over the plateu, Thanks for the reply bro

 

[jon38]

You need too reverse diet back too a normal maintance for a while focus on recomp and building a little lean muscle and let your metabolism come back too normal your problem is hormonal from a very long diet if you want too keep it off this is the best option its a marathon not a sprint bro good luck

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And after loosing a ton of weight you should never bulk slow reverse diet your body is in fat storage overtime it thinks your starving any surplus will be stored as fat

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The answer you were looking for is DNP and the line between effective dose and FATAL overdose is marginal so play with your life if you want too I wouldnt

 

[stevesmi]

Hey Steve, Thanks for the reply, Agree that cardio is best but i should of mentioned i ran 5-7 miles a day on my cardio days which is how i lost all the weight, my diet is clean but its genuinely a wall i've hit were i'm not dropping weight and i cant be gaining muscle with my super low carb/calorie in take so i'm not sure why the scales arent moving, i'm just stuck around 12 stone, I've just bought some liquid clen and hoping this will give me that nudge over the plateu, Thanks for the reply bro

5-7 miles per day is a lot.. I was running 45 miles per week back when I was training for half marathons and 10K's. I would agree with jon above, you may have killed your metabolism. keep in mind runners will eat a lot of carbs and still stay skinny, their metabolism is fire. so if you are running that much don't kill your metabolism either by starving yourself, its very important to not over do it

it sounds to me between all your cardio and your goals that a simple double stack of sarms like LGD + GW is going to be your answer here, although both are legal. but they are not going to be a bitch to run like DNP would.. clen I never felt the results were worth the sides. tried it twice and hated how I felt on it

 

[Lonedrood]

you've gave me ALOT to think about guys, really appreciate the feedback and fast replies, Ill be researching more into the damage im doing to my metabolism on my current diet and will change accordingly, Really, Thanks... Great forum you all have here

 

[GH0]

dnp>t3>clen>ec

go with ec so cheap and kills appetite

 

[KMonster]

You need too reverse diet back too a normal maintance for a while focus on recomp and building a little lean muscle and let your metabolism come back too normal your problem is hormonal from a very long diet if you want too keep it off this is the best option its a marathon not a sprint bro good luck

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And after loosing a ton of weight you should never bulk slow reverse diet your body is in fat storage overtime it thinks your starving any surplus will be stored as fat

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The answer you were looking for is DNP and the line between effective dose and FATAL overdose is marginal so play with your life if you want too I wouldnt

+1

...restore your metabolism as well as your hormones first and go from there.

And yes, T3 and DNP is great combo, but you better know what you're doing :/

 

[Lendo]

The best illegal weight loss supplement I've used in the past is Crystal Meth bro. I would advise against that because it's neurotoxic.. very toxic in general no matter what unless you're getting pharm grade Desoxyn in which case that's a little safer because each pill only contains 5mgs of Methamptamine hydrochloride and it's for obesity or for people with severe ADHD/ADD. And they only give it to patients who are really obese and monitor it like crazy for a month or two and that's it.

Having said that.. there are much better alternatives. The only reason why I stated Meth was because I was already lean in my early twenties. But I went from 10% body fat to 4% bf it now lower in just a matter of months. But it's very catabolic and I was also taking designer steroids like Superdrol and shit like Spawn ( Epistane and Tren ) back when the shit was legal and those two things are very toxic to the liver and kidneys as well and combining meth and steroids could leave to death eventually. Did I make stupid choices back then when I was young? Yes.. I will admit that! But I had a killer physique and I didn't think about the consequences but that's the problem with kids now a days is they want quick results. I'm sure someone in here will chime in and tell you about the Sarms triple stack.. and to be honest with you that's the safest way to go is SARMS because they have very little suppression.. but the results are quite nice and you can maintain the size you'll get and weight loss from them!

Other then that there's also Need2Slin which you can take before any meal containing carbs.. it's a safe insulin supplement that a lot of guys here have been talking about. Or you can even do an ECA stack ( Ephedrine/Caffeine/Aspirin ) try and find some baby aspirin though and you really don't need the aspirin.. it just aborbs the other shit that you're taking better. Other then that there are a lot of things you can find.. you just have to be careful with what you put in your body and try and stay away from the shit that can be addicting. I was fond of amphetamines for a long time and relied on them for a lot of things besides the gym but addiction is a bitch and I'm happy to be clean and sober for 4 years. Just don't do what I did to get quick results and get in great shape by mixing speed with oral steroids.. because I should of died from that but God wanted me here for a reason I guess! If you have any more questions you can pm me but I'm sure the other guys here can also chime in for more advice! Everyone will always tell you though the number two things you must have is a great diet.. and exercise. Switch up your routines and try and add in cardio at least 3 times a week!

were you on crystal meth when you typed this? I've done crystal back in my partying days....and yes it's a hell of a drug. You won't eat for 2-3 days...you also won't sleep for 1-2 days

You need too reverse diet back too a normal maintance for a while focus on recomp and building a little lean muscle and let your metabolism come back too normal your problem is hormonal from a very long diet if you want too keep it off this is the best option its a marathon not a sprint bro good luck

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And after loosing a ton of weight you should never bulk slow reverse diet your body is in fat storage overtime it thinks your starving any surplus will be stored as fat

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The answer you were looking for is DNP and the line between effective dose and FATAL overdose is marginal so play with your life if you want too I wouldnt

If you want an answer to your question "Best Illegal Weight Loss supplement?", DNP is your answer. Have you ever flop sweated for absolutely no reason before? Well multiply that by at least 2x...maybe 10x. There is plenty of good info on the internetz on how to do DNP "safely"...emphasis on the quotes.

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I just re-read the original post...and I hate when people disregard the real question...but...

You're 22! Stick to cardio/circuit training...OTC thermogenics...ephedrine/caffeine

 

[trank406]

^^^ good post trank

and I would add that cardio is the absolute best way to burn off fat. even just 15 minutes of high intensity per day while eliminating junk food is all it takes. that's it. can you really not spare just 15 minutes of your day and laying off the cheesecake and pizza?

not the answer you were looking for but its the truth. plus cardio is so healthy for your body vs. taking some nasty drug like clen, DNP or T3.

Thanks stevesmi and I concur brother.. cardio is healthy a lot healthier than taking these weight loss drugs. Sure you can take these drugs in combination but if you're diet is on point.. then really there's no need to take them unless you absolutely feel like you have to! Cardio is good for your heart, and even though I personally know some people that don't do it because they hate it.. I feel it's a must because it keeps you young. I don't know.. I have to do at least 30 minutes whether it's stairs, bike, sprints, elliptical.. something! But I try to get an hour a day if I could!

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were you on crystal meth when you typed this? I've done crystal back in my partying days....and yes it's a hell of a drug. You won't eat for 2-3 days...you also won't sleep for 1-2 days



If you want an answer to your question "Best Illegal Weight Loss supplement?", DNP is your answer. Have you ever flop sweated for absolutely no reason before? Well multiply that by at least 2x...maybe 10x. There is plenty of good info on the internetz on how to do DNP "safely"...emphasis on the quotes.

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I just re-read the original post...and I hate when people disregard the real question...but...

You're 22! Stick to cardio/circuit training...OTC thermogenics...ephedrine/caffeine

Hahaha Lendo now I wasn't on Crystal Meth when I typed that. I just love to type! I turned in a 13 page report last Wednesday for my class and it only had to be 6 pages long hahaha I feel so bad for my teacher. My wife says I talk a lot so I guess I have a lot to say. Personally though I think I've gotten a lot better since being 4 years clean off that shit. I feel I'm more laid back now but I have my days where I'm talkative I guess it just depends on my mood lol

 

[AddarInc]

DNP if you're game enough to try it

 

[Lonedrood]

Awesome info guys, much appreciated, Trying clen when it arrives thanks for all the suggestions and in put, loving this family of forum users

 

[jon38]

Biggest problem with DNP that no one thinks about is dosing this not pharmaceutical its whip i p by shady research companies so lets say you get underdosed shit very likely you run 200 mg for a week get decent results no sides bump it too 400 then it going great your getting shredded up too 600 now your in contest shape you stop
Next time you cut theres this new companie you get some and say 600 was fine and g ot good results you start with that but this is pure and dosed correctly your temp. Is 104 your on fire dont bother with the ER theres no cure just make peace with hod cause its over bro

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The best k llegal fat burner is Clen doesnt work as good as DNP but unless your a complete idiot its not likely its gonna kill you dnp however is extremely dangerous

 

[Lonedrood]

Yeah the dangers of dnp is something that puts me on the fence, Clen seems my best bet, Thanks for the warning!

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What's everyones opinion on the muscle side of Clen? From experience would be great.... What was clen like with you? did it also help alittle with protien synthesis? did you hold on to your muscle or even help gain muscle being on clen with a clean diet and working out

 

[BigBro]

Sheeeeeeit.

I'm astounded, but not surprised, by the crap posted here.

First off, you don't need "illegal" drugs. You need a proper diet and some balls. Go find someone who "walks the walk" and get them to write you up a proper diet. Thats all you need. It will not cost you any more than the drugs you want to buy. Or just do some google research.

"Didn't make gains due to low carb". Fark. Lemme ask you a question. What is muscle made of? The muscle cells, what are they made of? Essential amino acids (protein) and fat. The only contribution that non essential carbs make is to fill the muscle cell with glycogen, something that can be accomplished by converting protein and fat anyway. If you eat enough protein and fat, with a calorie surplus, you will grow. Of course, that won't happen while you are in a calorie deficit.

Besides, what makes you certain you haven't put on muscle? Did you get a body scan done? Chances are that you have, along with losing the weight that you have.

So from reading between the lines, you just need to sort your diet out. Focus on one thing at a time. If you want to lose fat, train and eat for that. If you want to gain muscle, train and eat for that. You ain't Kai Greene or Levrone. So don't expect to lose fat and gain masses of muscle in the process.

You can do a stack of clen, T3, Tren, test prop and a handful of ephedrine but in the end you will still have no idea about your body, no maturity and knowledge from your cut and the fat will all come back on once you drop the drugs.

Do it right. That would be the hard way. Man up. Do the work. Learn about your body. Its all good.

 

[AddarInc]

BigBro says how it is!

 

[jon38]

I always run tren and test prop when cutting but not too burn fat diet does that tren is crazy anabolic and will not only let you keep all your gains in a deep deficit but ive put on muscle while dieting

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Steroids dont burn fat they build muscle and can help you keep it when dieting some non aromatizing compounds will reduce water retention and make you apear leaner but not burn fat

 

[Nodnarbs]

T-3 made me look like I had an eating disorder


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[guysp30]

Be Careful with Clen!

Besides the know sides like insomnia, shakes and increasing body temperature, it might cause long term heart issues. This is more important with guys that use it for several years as a bridge between cycles. If you want to do it "right", you should clear any problems first. Get to your family doctor and ask a heart checkup with an Eco-dopler do see if you don't have any conditions and to get the exact heart dimensions*. Run a 2-3 months 15 days in 15 days off with Ketotifen on the "on days".

* Everyone that runs gear also should do it every year! Some say the those beloved hormones may increase your heart size. If any significant change is detected STOP, taking anything!

 

[Lonedrood]

Appreciate the reply bro, Wise and harsh words haha, thanks for the reply its definitely something to think about

 

[guysp30]

Just as a side note, I already used clen for several months...and I'm planning to use again in the future...

My last eco-dopler was in march... all green...

And if you can endure the sides, and if it won't create trouble on your work, it works... last lime lost 2% BF using it (dieting and working out, off course), without it lost only 0.5%

 

[Lonedrood]

Ok so here's something interesting... so far i'm having amazing results with clen...... and here's why..... I hit my max dosage today and when scrolling through a forum about 5 mins ago i came across a clen dosage post.... Long story short.... i've been overdosing!!!! just took my (what i thought was) max dose... at 1.5ml... turns out it's 300mcg... I'm in for a rough ride today.... no wonder i was having stupidly good results. Lesson learnt... if i survive it

 

[Catreen]

hi,
probably in the forum somewhere, but where can i get clenbuterol from? i live in Estonia.

 

[Jake Gyllenhaal1]

good suggestion. thks,bro.

 

[West713112]

Great info, thanks bro!!!

 

[Kushcausedcoma]

Dnp would be the way to go but dmaa allways worked for me. Or just get some addys

 

[Melo11]

Thanks for sharing!

 

[RxOnline]

DNP (2,4-dinitrophenol) is the strongest.

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Not sure if this is good by Evo rules, but pretty soon (either tonight or tomorrow night) I'll be making an intro post on behalf of my team's online source. We stock real pharma T3, T3/T4 mix, Alpha Pharma Clenbuterol, T3, some DNP, and we ship from UK. Keep an eye on my profile.