Cycle plan sust/deca/dbol

[Gzusb]

Hey ppl,

So I'm planning to run an aas cycle again! Been off for about 2 years, ran a few cycles before, test only, sust and deca, test and tren, etc.

Stats: age 30, 5'5 160 lbs bf 10%. Lifting: Christ knows how long but religiously 2 years 5 days a week. Diet: currently 2900 kcals split into 5 meals is holding my current weight (2 weeks out of a cut)

I'm trying to remember the protocol for a lovely bulking sust and deca cycle here's what I got so far:

Sust 500 mg wk 1 - 14 2 X
Deca 400mg wk 1 - 12 2 X
Dbol 50mg day wk 1 - 6
Adex .25m eod wk 1 - 12

Pct nolva and clomid 28 days after last shot tapering down.

It's not sitting right with me though, if my memory serves me right I need some caber or letro in there or at least on hand, and possibly up the sust? I also know the frequency of sust is a disputed subject I've previously done twice a week without terrible sides I would consider eod and simply add deca every other shot?

Input appreciated

 

[muskate]

Your memory is right. You need to add in an anti-prolactin drug like cabergoline into your cycle because deca is a nandrolone and will raise prolactin levels in the body. 0.5mg E3D is a good dosage. You can order it from ag-guys.com.

I would also add in a liver aid supplement like n2guard from n2bm.com when using the dbol as it is a liver toxic oral steroid.

Sust is primarily a long estered testosterone so you only need to inject it twice per week. Inject both the sust and deca twice per week.

I would bump up your Adex dose to 0.5mg EOD and I would run a much better PCT after your cycle. I recommend running the perfect PCT after your cycle: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

 

[Jay Scott]

Your memory is right. You need to add in an anti-prolactin drug like cabergoline into your cycle because deca is a nandrolone and will raise prolactin levels in the body. 0.5mg E3D is a good dosage. You can order it from ag-guys.com.

I would also add in a liver aid supplement like n2guard from n2bm.com when using the dbol as it is a liver toxic oral steroid.

Sust is primarily a long estered testosterone so you only need to inject it twice per week. Inject both the sust and deca twice per week.

I would bump up your Adex dose to 0.5mg EOD and I would run a much better PCT after your cycle. I recommend running the perfect PCT after your cycle: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

Caber is a must. A lot of people do not realise that and then get weird sides from prolactin. As for PCT - recommending the same protocol, as PCT is the most important part of the cycle

 

[Gzusb]

Awesome, thanks guys.
I remember caber being a part but not to what extent.
Love that pct post. I'd read about ostarine previously. Will deffo be using that protocol. Beats the plain clomid and Novla days!


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[stevesmi]

I will say this with caber.. if it is a short cycle you don't really need it.. but long cycles yes I would definitely use it and I would always keep it on hand. ag-guys has excellent dostinex/caber

 

[LevButlerov]

All in all, the cycle is looking good, but there are some bits missing. First of all, you definitely need to add something for prolactin control, such as cabergoline at 0.25 mgs EOD or E2D, starting from the first day of the cycle. Then you should also increase the arimidex dosage to 0.5 mgs EOD, even though I would highly suggest you to opt for aromasin instead, since it is a much better AI than arimidex. Also, Dbol is liver toxic, so you need to use a good liver supporting supplement, such as N2Guard. Finally, make sure to run a complete PCT for proper recovery. As a personal recommendation of mine, add Proviron into the stack in order to prevent the happening of deca-dick, since it will combat the dihydronandrolone by replacing it DHT (remember, proviron is basically pure DHT).

 

[Gzusb]

Yeah Ive got caber on the order list now, already have adex on hand and will up to 0.5 eod. Have used aromasin before I was swayed to think adex will help more with bloat from dbol? (pure bro-science). Going to order N2Guard as well and I'm gunna look into proviron now.
Cheers bro


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[LevButlerov]

Yeah Ive got caber on the order list now, already have adex on hand and will up to 0.5 eod. Have used aromasin before I was swayed to think adex will help more with bloat from dbol? (pure bro-science). Going to order N2Guard as well and I'm gunna look into proviron now.
Cheers bro


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Actually, aromasin will do a better job in reducing the bloating, since it is a suicide AI, so there will be no estrogen rebounds with it. Anyhow, since you already got the arimidex, you can use it by now. Good thing that you don't have compounds in the cycle that will impact your lipids in a noticeable manner, since arimidex is bad in this regard.

You can get some very good proviron from roidmass. Over the years of proviron usafe, I found that 25 mgs of Berd's proviron equals to 50 mgs of Bayer's proviron, so you end up saving good buck there.

 

[Jay Scott]

Yeah Ive got caber on the order list now, already have adex on hand and will up to 0.5 eod. Have used aromasin before I was swayed to think adex will help more with bloat from dbol? (pure bro-science). Going to order N2Guard as well and I'm gunna look into proviron now.
Cheers bro


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Aromasin is stronger than arimidex, dont know where you got that bro-science from tho

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Looks like you have everything set up now. I am another one that likes aromasin better but you will be fine with adex. Keep us updated on your cycle. It is one of the classic bulkers!

 

[muskate]

Yeah Ive got caber on the order list now, already have adex on hand and will up to 0.5 eod. Have used aromasin before I was swayed to think adex will help more with bloat from dbol? (pure bro-science). Going to order N2Guard as well and I'm gunna look into proviron now.
Cheers bro


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Aromasin is actually a better choice then arimidex because it is a suicide AI so there will be no estrogen rebound when you discontinue usage.

 

[Gzusb]

Ok Ive been given some letro now, is this worth using in place of the caber or am o best to wait?


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[Gzusb]

Ignore that letro doesn't help with prolactin right?
And I've just found a load of caber in my frickin cupboard!


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[Dudley Dawson]

Great cycle, I plan on running this exactly for my next bulk.

 

[Gzusb]

I'm running mod-grf and ghrp 2 currently and will start this cycle begging of August along side it.
I can't wait I've run a deca Sust cycle before gained a lot but I've really fine tuned my diet and training since then. I'm hyped!


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[Gzusb]

So I'm ready to start this cycle begging to middle of August (depending on deliveries). One final thought, much benefit in adding tren a for final two weeks when I drop deca?


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[muskate]

So I'm ready to start this cycle begging to middle of August (depending on deliveries). One final thought, much benefit in adding tren a for final two weeks when I drop deca?


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Two weeks of tren will give you benefit. Stick to the cycle as outlined. Save the tren for a future cycle.

 

[LevButlerov]

It will be quite pointless to use trenbolone for just two weeks. Let the hormones settle down when you stop taking deca, and leave your trenbolone for a proper cycle that you will be able to run in the future.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Definitely save your tren for next time.

 

[Gzusb]

Tren = dropped


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[TeeLab]

Personally I might not even bother with the oral because Sust won't take too long to kick in...and I would run the Deca at 600. But that's just me. I ran 300 EQ 300 Deca with Adex and Proviron with no problems.

 

[Gzusb]

Personally I might not even bother with the oral because Sust won't take too long to kick in...and I would run the Deca at 600. But that's just me. I ran 300 EQ 300 Deca with Adex and Proviron with no problems.

Run the deca at 600 and keep sust at 500? What would be he reasoning? I hear a lot to run test higher then deca to help with deca sides.


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[GainOfGainz]

Week 1

Sustanon 500mg
Deca 200mg
Dbol 20mg daily
Adex .25m eod wk 1 - 12


Week 2

Sustanon 500mg
Deca 300mg
Dbol 40mg daily
Adex .25m eod wk 1 - 12


Week 3

Sustanon 500mg
Deca 300mg
Dbol 60mg daily
Adex .25m eod wk 1 - 12


Week 4

Sustanon 500mg
Deca 400mg
Dbol 80mg daily
Adex .25m eod wk 1 - 12


Week 5

Sustanon 500mg
Deca 400mg
Masteron 400mg
Dbol o
Adex .25m eod wk 1 - 12


And keep moving depending on your diet progress side effect results etc


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