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All AAS will work good with creatine because it supports the cellular level of ATP. Thus supporting anabolism. Still, make sure you use it during your PCT and bridge to keep gains.
Sounds like you may be considering your first cycle. I would strongly advise you to stick to test only for this. What we often don't consider are the negatives of a proposed cycle and the fact that we may have side effects. Keeping to test only for your first cycle allows you to isolate the cause of any sides and address them with more certainty that a mix of hormones that are all new to you. Then next time perhaps add an oral, like dbol or anadrol.
I believe with the right diet and effort you will be more than pleased with a test only first cycle.
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I believe with the right diet and effort you will be more than pleased with a test only first cycle.
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Watch this video I put out on bulking vs cutting steroid cycles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3lNZLtaYVw
The bulking cycle I talk about in the video is:
Weeks 1 - 16
Testosterone 500mg/week
EQ or Deca 300-500mg/week
Aromasin 10mg every other day
Cabergoline 0.25mg every other day (If using deca. It isn't needed if using EQ)
After the cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
The bulking cycle I talk about in the video is:
Weeks 1 - 16
Testosterone 500mg/week
EQ or Deca 300-500mg/week
Aromasin 10mg every other day
Cabergoline 0.25mg every other day (If using deca. It isn't needed if using EQ)
After the cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
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How come creatine is more dangerous than AAS?
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That got me amazed too - creatine is probably one of the safest things you can take, and it is also one of the best studied supplements in the industry. This is plain absurd.
As for the OP's question, you can use creatine with any AAS - the effects will be just the same. Therefore, just plan the cycle around your needs and goals, not around creatine.
Actually, Jay, I wrote that creatine "can be more dangerous." (Emphasis not in original.)
That is so simply because most people, while believing creatine to be completely harmless, never cycle-off of it, thereby placing their kidneys at extreme risk. Creatine may well be water-soluble but it does build-up in one's kidneys and therefore needs to be purged from one's kidneys on a regular basis.
Moreover, I do not find creatine to be effective - just more pixy dust.
^^^ creating does not harm the kidney's.. that is a myth started by doctors who don't know how to read bloodwork properly and whose patients do not fast properly. creatine should be stopped 2 weeks ahead of blood work, otherwise it will screw up the test. also bodybuilders in general are going to have higher then normal creatinine and BUN levels because of their diets but also because they are constantly breaking down and repairing muscle. the numbers doctors are taught to pay attention to are for the average fat American couch potato, not for an athlete. so when they look at blood work they always think someone's kidneys are being damaged, which is absolutely not true.. if it was true then I would be dead a long time ago.. I've lifted with no break for 25 years and always have high BUN/creatinine levels (based on the couch potato range). even if you only lift 3X per week you are still going to be in a constant breakdown/repair muscle mode.
as far as effectiveness creatine is a great option for those who are natty. as it is a naturally occurring compound in our bodies and very safe. of course it isn't like AAS, but it also isn't suppressive either. it can be used in PCT or bridge between cycles very effectively. I think the issue is a lot of creatine out there is poor quality, full of fillers.. so maybe you got a bad impression of it because of that.. that's why its important to buy a good quality creatine.. n2bm.com sells ancient strength, which is cheap and is solid product
as far as effectiveness creatine is a great option for those who are natty. as it is a naturally occurring compound in our bodies and very safe. of course it isn't like AAS, but it also isn't suppressive either. it can be used in PCT or bridge between cycles very effectively. I think the issue is a lot of creatine out there is poor quality, full of fillers.. so maybe you got a bad impression of it because of that.. that's why its important to buy a good quality creatine.. n2bm.com sells ancient strength, which is cheap and is solid product
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It sounds to me like this will be your first cycle. I would first start by reading this to determine if steroids are a wise choice for you...http://www.evolutionary.org/are-you-ready-for-steroids/
If you decide steroids are a good fit, go with test only. For a first cycle you do not want to add anything else in there. You will get crazy gains as long as diet and training are dialed in. Go with something like this:
Weeks 1-12
Test 500mg
Aromasin 10 mg EOD
Perfect PCT - http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
If you decide steroids are a good fit, go with test only. For a first cycle you do not want to add anything else in there. You will get crazy gains as long as diet and training are dialed in. Go with something like this:
Weeks 1-12
Test 500mg
Aromasin 10 mg EOD
Perfect PCT - http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
Man there is so much research material on creatine use during a steroid cycle, just google it bro. I like using Universal Storm creatine mix on and off cycle. I actually use it less during cycle especially if I'm using an oral but TBH workouts with creatine are way better, on cycle or off.
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