Does oral anavar actually suppress your own testosterone?

[LordEscanor]

My cousin, a 22 year old male, has been taking prescribed Anavar only for 20mg a day for the last 4 weeks. And this morning his testosterone result comes back showing he has 638 ng/dL testosterone. A year ago when he did blood test, he has 770 ng/dL of testosterone.
He believes oral anavar at low dosage doesn't actually suppress your own testosterone production. He said this time his test level is lower than last time might be due to he has sex the night before.
I mean, yes even if it did suppress his test, that's only 15%, not very significant.
And very few people actually tried running anavar oral alone and did blood test like he did. But I also heard people saying anavar will shut you down even at 20mg, so now I am confused, maybe people were not taking real Anavar when they feel the shut down? Or maybe because my cousin is very young?

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The other thing that's very interesting is I notice a significant increase in his free test, from 21 to 35 Ng/dL, and the normal reference range for free test is 9-26 ng/dL

 

[nelson montana]

Of course. Though the less androgenic, the less suppression. But if you do enough of anything loing enough it can shut you down. Perhaps permanently. That's why I always advocated short cycles. Guys who do long cycles, and then PCT and then another long cycle are kidding themselves. They will never fully recover but don;t stay off long enough to realize it.

 

[Mobster]

Four things
1) He's 22. He should not be using any steroid
2) Of course it does. If he thinks a small dose of a 'lesser' steroid doesn't he's a fool
3) You've, as well as asking questions, given advice and replied to some posts. If you need to ask about Var suppressing maybe you need to up your knowledge first
4) His figures and the 'what's happened' is wrong. The idea it's 'only' been suppressed by 15% is off. The lower figure is taken while he's still on. If you wanna better indication try a test AFTER he comes off.

 

[LifestylePerfAthlete]

Prescribed Anavar? And yes, steroids suppress your natural testosterone production. This is basic information that your “friend” should know before taking a steroid, prescribed or not.

 

[LordEscanor]

Prescribed Anavar? And yes, steroids suppress your natural testosterone production. This is basic information that your “friend” should know before taking a steroid, prescribed or not.

It's my cousin, he got the anavar from burning a few months ago. He has circle of friends who like to do oral alone cycle.

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Four things
1) The idea it's 'only' been suppressed by 15% is off. The lower figure is taken while he's still on. If you wanna better indication try a test AFTER he comes off.

That's what I told him, the truth is he might have a much higher testosterone level before the cycle to begin with, 15% just sounds off. I mean our test level can fluctuate more than 15% throughout the day without taking anything to begin with

 

[stevesmi]

i will bet my left nut he is really using proviron which is often faked as anavar. that would explain the test numbers and the free test numbers.

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro what source he using?

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

My cousin, a 22 year old male, has been taking prescribed Anavar only for 20mg a day for the last 4 weeks. And this morning his testosterone result comes back showing he has 638 ng/dL testosterone. A year ago when he did blood test, he has 770 ng/dL of testosterone.
He believes oral anavar at low dosage doesn't actually suppress your own testosterone production. He said this time his test level is lower than last time might be due to he has sex the night before.
I mean, yes even if it did suppress his test, that's only 15%, not very significant.
And very few people actually tried running anavar oral alone and did blood test like he did. But I also heard people saying anavar will shut you down even at 20mg, so now I am confused, maybe people were not taking real Anavar when they feel the shut down? Or maybe because my cousin is very young?

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The other thing that's very interesting is I notice a significant increase in his free test, from 21 to 35 Ng/dL, and the normal reference range for free test is 9-26 ng/dL

Anavar even at 20mgs will suppress your testosterone production, it's a steroid after all.

Now the blood work, it's possible he has fake anavar like blank pills or something like a light prohormone so he's not actually getting shut down.
20mgs per day WILL NOT shut you down but will suppress you a bit; but if it's fake lol then nothing to worry about.

I had a client prepping for a show with amazing genetics, he was doing 20mgs of anavar nothing happened to his bloods (pharma grade stuff) so go figure but other guys I prepped had a different story.

 

[LordEscanor]

i will bet my left nut he is really using proviron which is often faked as anavar. that would explain the test numbers and the free test numbers.

Unlikely, It's prescribed by hospital

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bro what source he using?

Hospital. So legit pharm grade. I can ask him the name of the brand But I mean there's only so few of them

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Anavar even at 20mgs will suppress your testosterone production, it's a steroid after all.

Now the blood work, it's possible he has fake anavar like blank pills or something like a light prohormone so he's not actually getting shut down.
20mgs per day WILL NOT shut you down but will suppress you a bit; but if it's fake lol then nothing to worry about.

I had a client prepping for a show with amazing genetics, he was doing 20mgs of anavar nothing happened to his bloods (pharma grade stuff) so go figure but other guys I prepped had a different story.

Yea his situation is the same, got legit pharm grade from hospital and basically nothing happened to his blood after 4weeks of 20mg. I guess he is not that special

 

[Ssshortstop]

tell him to take tren.....and watch out for the neigbors daugters mouth like that one guy..

 

[ShanePA]

Unlikely, It's prescribed by hospital

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Hospital. So legit pharm grade. I can ask him the name of the brand But I mean there's only so few of them

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Yea his situation is the same, got legit pharm grade from hospital and basically nothing happened to his blood after 4weeks of 20mg. I guess he is not that special

20mgs of anavar won't shut him down much short term but long term it will.

I remember there was an article about 10mgs dbol/day bridge with blood work. That means it didn't shut guys down 10mgs of dbol per day which is way stronger than 20mgs of anavar.
I think the blood showed like 10% decrease in testosterone or something like that but higher free testosterone levels.

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

I am almost certain, that your friend got fake anavar

 

[Mobster]

Why did the hospital prescribe it?

 

[LordEscanor]

20mgs of anavar won't shut him down much short term but long term it will.

I remember there was an article about 10mgs dbol/day bridge with blood work. That means it didn't shut guys down 10mgs of dbol per day which is way stronger than 20mgs of anavar.
I think the blood showed like 10% decrease in testosterone or something like that but higher free testosterone levels.

Interesting, that's exactly what happened to my cousin

 

[LordEscanor]

Why did the hospital prescribe it?

He got burning wound when he was in the army

 

[LordEscanor]

20mgs of anavar won't shut him down much short term but long term it will.

I remember there was an article about 10mgs dbol/day bridge with blood work. That means it didn't shut guys down 10mgs of dbol per day which is way stronger than 20mgs of anavar.
I think the blood showed like 10% decrease in testosterone or something like that but higher free testosterone levels.

Do you still have the link of that article? Many people believe anavar will suppress you hard and I see their point.
I mean I don't know in my cousin's case, how much it has to do with his age, or his diet, Sleep, or even his dosing time can affect the result of test level. Maybe he is just a lucky basterd
And because of the half life of anavar, 20mg of anavar maybe more supressive than 10mg of dbol considering the half life difference

 

[LordEscanor]

I am almost certain, that your friend got fake anavar

I am curious, how much supression should be expected from 3weeks of 20mg anavar a day?

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i will bet my left nut he is really using proviron which is often faked as anavar. that would explain the test numbers and the free test numbers.

By the way what's the test number should be expected from taking 20mg of anavar fod 3 weeks?

 

[Mobster]

Can you get the hospital to test him?

 

[JasonPriest]

I am curious, how much supression should be expected from 3weeks of 20mg anavar a day?

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By the way what's the test number should be expected from taking 20mg of anavar fod 3 weeks?

it hasn't been enough time on it to suppress him if it is real var.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

What were the LH and FSH numbers from the blood work?

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

His is not mature enough to use steroids...

 

[RoySimpson]

Guys have you covered!

 

[LordEscanor]

I am curious, has anyone tried run oral alone and do blood work?I want to compare and see if this really is a special case

 

[stevesmi]

What were the LH and FSH numbers from the blood work?

this is what i want to know too.

we don't know how their pituitary glands are performing without those 2 numbers, total testosterone only tells us how the leydig cells are performing.

that is like me saying I'm going to run testosterone or deca and it won't suppress me because my test levels came in good. that is fool's gold since those both will cause test levels to rise

 

[LordEscanor]

I got a message from someone saying he ran 40mg anavar for 5weeks and got shut down hard, test result came back as 215ng/dL. And he is only mid-20. Maybe it's not the age that made the difference..

 

[LordEscanor]

this is what i want to know too.

we don't know how their pituitary glands are performing without those 2 numbers, total testosterone only tells us how the leydig cells are performing.

that is like me saying I'm going to run testosterone or deca and it won't suppress me because my test levels came in good. that is fool's gold since those both will cause test levels to rise

The only thing on his test result is total test and free test, I doubt he even know what LH and FSH is lol.
I told him to run a full blood panel next week, and then we can see if his HPTA is getting affected or not.
Physically, for someone who run anavar for 4weeks, he does looks fuller but just a little bit. I've seen more far impressive anavar transformations.
But again, he is around 14-15%bodyfat, not really lean enough to see all the definition and he only take 20mg a day

 

[stevesmi]

I got a message from someone saying he ran 40mg anavar for 5weeks and got shut down hard, test result came back as 215ng/dL. And he is only mid-20. Maybe it's not the age that made the difference..

all anabolic steroids will shut you down because they signal the pit glands that there is too much hormones in the system. the ONLY exception i have seen is proviron which is structured to be more of a drug than hormone in some people.

 

[LordEscanor]

all anabolic steroids will shut you down because they signal the pit glands that there is too much hormones in the system. the ONLY exception i have seen is proviron which is structured to be more of a drug than hormone in some people.

Interesting, do you think is it a thing to run proviron alone cycle? I know so many rids run anavar/tbol or dbol oral cycle but never heard anyone did proviron

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*So many kids
Typo

 

[Ricky V Rock]

My cousin, a 22 year old male, has been taking prescribed Anavar only for 20mg a day for the last 4 weeks. And this morning his testosterone result comes back showing he has 638 ng/dL testosterone. A year ago when he did blood test, he has 770 ng/dL of testosterone.
He believes oral anavar at low dosage doesn't actually suppress your own testosterone production. He said this time his test level is lower than last time might be due to he has sex the night before.
I mean, yes even if it did suppress his test, that's only 15%, not very significant.
And very few people actually tried running anavar oral alone and did blood test like he did. But I also heard people saying anavar will shut you down even at 20mg, so now I am confused, maybe people were not taking real Anavar when they feel the shut down? Or maybe because my cousin is very young?

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The other thing that's very interesting is I notice a significant increase in his free test, from 21 to 35 Ng/dL, and the normal reference range for free test is 9-26 ng/dL

Anything that messes with your endocrine system can cause suppression, even something mild like Anavar!

Check out our Anavar profile:



ANAVAR:
https://www.evolutionary.org/evolut...-profiles-anavar-profile-cutting-and-cycling/

 

[LordEscanor]

Anything that messes with your endocrine system can cause suppression, even something mild like Anavar!

Check out our Anavar profile:



ANAVAR:
https://www.evolutionary.org/evolut...-profiles-anavar-profile-cutting-and-cycling/

Yes I read that a million times.

 

[LordEscanor]

My cousin said he is getting off anavar in 2 weeks and after that he will do a blood panel.
He said he is on low dose anavar just to get rid of his lower bellyfat and so far he is pretty successful at losing belly fat even though he eats at maintenance calories.
Wonder if his bellyfat will come back when he get off the cycle lol

 

[ballin2504]

The guys have this covered!

 

[LordEscanor]

I understand that the lower Bodyfat you have, the less test you have is that correct? So could it possible that someone with moderate amount of bodyfat like my cousin, 15-18% will experience a lot less test suppression than someone who is at 8% Bodyfat?

 

[Mobster]

My cousin said he is getting off anavar in 2 weeks and after that he will do a blood panel.
He said he is on low dose anavar just to get rid of his lower bellyfat and so far he is pretty successful at losing belly fat even though he eats at maintenance calories.
Wonder if his bellyfat will come back when he get off the cycle lol

So not medically prescribed for a burning wound in the army then.

 

[LordEscanor]

So not medically prescribed for a burning wound in the army then.

It is medically prescribed. But of course he asked doc for anavar not because he want to cure the burning wound. Just like most young people ask doctors for TRT not because they really need it. I think that should pretty self-explanatory.
There is no doubt that he is taking the legit anavar made in Real pharmaceutical company.
I made the previous post to explain why he is only on 20mg, not higher

 

[Mobster]

I understand that the lower Bodyfat you have, the less test you have is that correct? So could it possible that someone with moderate amount of bodyfat like my cousin, 15-18% will experience a lot less test suppression than someone who is at 8% Bodyfat?

No. The opposite. Else fat fucks would have the highest. It's also why we want people under 12% when they go on cycle and also, typically, cos higher fat levels equate to higher estrogen levels.

 

[stevesmi]

I understand that the lower Bodyfat you have, the less test you have is that correct? So could it possible that someone with moderate amount of bodyfat like my cousin, 15-18% will experience a lot less test suppression than someone who is at 8% Bodyfat?

if your body is metabolically sick then your natural test levels will be lower. body fat isn't a factor necessarily but obviously someone who is over 20% body fat will be sick inside vs. someone who is 12% and keeps themselves healthy

there are many factors in play.

 

[Tazz]

i always run test with any oral

 

[stevesmi]

if your body is metabolically sick then your natural test levels will be lower. body fat isn't a factor necessarily but obviously someone who is over 20% body fat will be sick inside vs. someone who is 12% and keeps themselves healthy

there are many factors in play.

also being super low body fat can hurt test levels too, i'm talking like 2 or 3% body fat. levels you will not achieve unless you reach starvation levels