Enclomiphene thought and source in Australia

[natmak12]

Hi all,

I have been of small dose yet for 3 years although my partner and ai are looking at having a child.

I had a semen analysis that was pretty much zero. So I've made the decision to come off trt whilst trying to conceive. I have slowly weened off and had my last dose today. I started HCG 3 weeks ago and am taking 500iu every other day.

I am already feeling the effects of coming off TRT, alot more tired and foggy and my sleep is crap and very broken.

I have been looking into enclomiphine and everything I have ready looks promising, particularly for the fertility aspect of it.

Wondering if anyone else had gone through this and there experience ? Also looking for a enclomiphine source on Australia?

 

[PJLibra]

Hi all,

I have been of small dose yet for 3 years although my partner and ai are looking at having a child.

I had a semen analysis that was pretty much zero. So I've made the decision to come off trt whilst trying to conceive. I have slowly weened off and had my last dose today. I started HCG 3 weeks ago and am taking 500iu every other day.

I am already feeling the effects of coming off TRT, alot more tired and foggy and my sleep is crap and very broken.

I have been looking into enclomiphine and everything I have ready looks promising, particularly for the fertility aspect of it.

Wondering if anyone else had gone through this and there experience ? Also looking for a enclomiphine source on Australia?

Raptor Labs has it, Enclo caps.

 

[natmak12]

Raptor Labs has it, Enclo caps.

I've messaged them. It says in stock on list but they said out of stock. @Raptor Labs ?

 

[LevButlerov]

Hi all,

I have been of small dose yet for 3 years although my partner and ai are looking at having a child.

I had a semen analysis that was pretty much zero. So I've made the decision to come off trt whilst trying to conceive. I have slowly weened off and had my last dose today. I started HCG 3 weeks ago and am taking 500iu every other day.

I am already feeling the effects of coming off TRT, alot more tired and foggy and my sleep is crap and very broken.

I have been looking into enclomiphine and everything I have ready looks promising, particularly for the fertility aspect of it.

Wondering if anyone else had gone through this and there experience ? Also looking for a enclomiphine source on Australia?

moved thread to AU sub @natmak12 check our 2026 Q1 suppliers EVO approved https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2026-q1-top-tier-trusted-aussie-vendors.109959/

 

[waggat]

Hi all,

I have been of small dose yet for 3 years although my partner and ai are looking at having a child.

I had a semen analysis that was pretty much zero. So I've made the decision to come off trt whilst trying to conceive. I have slowly weened off and had my last dose today. I started HCG 3 weeks ago and am taking 500iu every other day.

I am already feeling the effects of coming off TRT, alot more tired and foggy and my sleep is crap and very broken.

I have been looking into enclomiphine and everything I have ready looks promising, particularly for the fertility aspect of it.

Wondering if anyone else had gone through this and there experience ? Also looking for a enclomiphine source on Australia?

Hey mate, don't know much about the fertility aspect but suggest you check out @CypherOCE 's log:

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tle-operation-baby-cypher-baby-bottle.105563/

 

[CypherOCE]

Hey mate, don't know much about the fertility aspect but suggest you check out @CypherOCE 's log:

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tle-operation-baby-cypher-baby-bottle.105563/

@natmak12 you don’t need to come off TRT at all

But you will need to drop the dose to 75mg weekly

Your hCG dose is not high enough you need 1000IU x 3 along with hMG 450IU weekly alternatively if you can get Gonal F prescribed I’d be using that instead of hMG.

To summarise:

75mg weekly - Test E
1000IU hCG x3
150IU hMG x3

You’ll be firing in 3-4 months time

 

[CladHQ]

Hi all,

I have been of small dose yet for 3 years although my partner and ai are looking at having a child.

I had a semen analysis that was pretty much zero. So I've made the decision to come off trt whilst trying to conceive. I have slowly weened off and had my last dose today. I started HCG 3 weeks ago and am taking 500iu every other day.

I am already feeling the effects of coming off TRT, alot more tired and foggy and my sleep is crap and very broken.

I have been looking into enclomiphine and everything I have ready looks promising, particularly for the fertility aspect of it.

Wondering if anyone else had gone through this and there experience ? Also looking for a enclomiphine source on Australia?

I have enclomiphene brother

Msg me on threema or telegram @ironcladlabs

 

[natmak12]

@natmak12 you don’t need to come off TRT at all

But you will need to drop the dose to 75mg weekly

Your hCG dose is not high enough you need 1000IU x 3 along with hMG 450IU weekly alternatively if you can get Gonal F prescribed I’d be using that instead of hMG.

To summarise:

75mg weekly - Test E
1000IU hCG x3
150IU hMG x3

You’ll be firing in 3-4 months time

Were your tests zero though ?

 

[CypherOCE]

Were your tests zero though ?

I had no swimmer at all haha

Let me find the photos - these were my markers across three different tests

 

[Raptor Labs]

I've messaged them. It says in stock on list but they said out of stock. @Raptor Labs ?

We are out brother, sorry. More will be in within next month

 

[texas.redneck]

Why aren't more underground labs onboard with enclomiphene yet?

 

[theJimJim]

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...es-updates-reviews.109084/page-3#post-2017226

@War Born Peptides has HCG and HMG

Hit them up. Tell them I sent you hopefully they can look after you.

 

[CladHQ]

Have pharma HCG HMG and enclo if needed

 

[Chowmanly]

@natmak12 you don’t need to come off TRT at all

But you will need to drop the dose to 75mg weekly

Your hCG dose is not high enough you need 1000IU x 3 along with hMG 450IU weekly alternatively if you can get Gonal F prescribed I’d be using that instead of hMG.

To summarise:

75mg weekly - Test E
1000IU hCG x3
150IU hMG x3

You’ll be firing in 3-4 months time

I’d run this for 3–4 months then test your sperm before coming off. I regained fertility right at the 3-month mark after coming off using a clomiphene + HCG + HMG protocol. But like @CypherOCE mentioned in his log, you can also do it while staying on a low dose of test.
If you do decide to come off, check out my log, but just be aware, PCT isn’t fun and you probably have to be a little more aggressive with the HMG and HCG (I am on 75 iu hmg + hcg 500 iu x3 week).
I got my enclo here in Oz through an online Indian pharma.

 

[Raptor Labs]

Why aren't more underground labs onboard with enclomiphene yet?

Extremely hard to source a legitimate supplier

Lots sell Clomid as Enclo

 

[natmak12]

Extremely hard to source a legitimate supplier

Lots sell Clomid as Enclo

Is enclomi-ash enclomiphene alright? It's properly labeled. Surely not putting clomos in enclomiphine labeled pharma packs

 

[natmak12]

I’d run this for 3–4 months then test your sperm before coming off. I regained fertility right at the 3-month mark after coming off using a clomiphene + HCG + HMG protocol. But like @CypherOCE mentioned in his log, you can also do it while staying on a low dose of test.
If you do decide to come off, check out my log, but just be aware, PCT isn’t fun and you probably have to be a little more aggressive with the HMG and HCG (I am on 75 iu hmg + hcg 500 iu x3 week).
I got my enclo here in Oz through an online Indian pharma.

This is what I'm currently doing, although haven't got my enclomiphine yet. Can you send me a picture of your enclomiphine?

I'm already feeling pretty rubbish from coming off.

 

[Raptor Labs]

Is enclomi-ash enclomiphene alright? It's properly labeled. Surely not putting clomos in enclomiphine labeled pharma packs

Read the back of the packet for enclomi-ash (image below)

It says "each tablet contains Clomiphene Citrate equivalent to Enclomiphene 50mg"

Enclomi-Ash isn't Enclo, its Clomid

 

[natmak12]

Read the back of the packet for enclomi-ash (image below)

It says "each tablet contains Clomiphene Citrate equivalent to Enclomiphene 50mg"

Enclomi-Ash isn't Enclo, its Clomid

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This is huge!!!!

Thank God you pointed this out. I was about to order!! I guess I'll wait until you are back in stock. Hope it's sooner than later haha.

 

[Stans]

I’d be weary of any Indian Pharma ‘enclo’.

Enclomisign from HAB also states the same ‘equivalent to 50mg of enclomiphene’.

Seems like it is all just clomid, and if it’s equivalent to 50mg of enclomiphene, then it is some super strength clomid lol

 

[Chowmanly]

This is what I'm currently doing, although haven't got my enclomiphine yet. Can you send me a picture of your enclomiphine?

I'm already feeling pretty rubbish from coming off.

As far as I’m aware, enclomiphene isn’t approved in any country, so unless it’s third-party tested, it’s hard to trust.
For fertility purposes, I’d definitely lean toward HCG and HMG as a priority.

 

[Nasser1997o2]

Why aren't more underground labs onboard with enclomiphene yet?

Because PCT is for cowards

@natmak12 Just kidding bro, hope the fertility program goes well

 

[texas.redneck]

Extremely hard to source a legitimate supplier

Lots sell Clomid as Enclo

I figured as much.

 

[natmak12]

Well so far, after stopping trt after 4 years.
500iu of hcg every other day. In 1 month
LH is now 1
FSH is now 1

I'm happy with this, although my test... I don't even want to talk about it haha

 

[CypherOCE]

Well so far, after stopping trt after 4 years.
500iu of hcg every other day. In 1 month
LH is now 1
FSH is now 1

I'm happy with this, although my test... I don't even want to talk about it haha

Mine was 1.9 after 10 weeks I couldn’t survive with it haha my wife had 1.7 for reference and that’s top of the range for women

 

[natmak12]

Mine was 1.9 after 10 weeks I couldn’t survive with it haha my wife had 1.7 for reference and that’s top of the range for women

I definitely feel shiet. But she'll be right. As soon as the buns in the oven... Straight back on.

But I'm happy it's at least moving

 

[marinosgr]

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As far as I’m aware, enclomiphene isn’t approved in any country, so unless it’s third-party tested, it’s hard to trust.
For fertility purposes, I’d definitely lean toward HCG and HMG as a priority.

I managed to get a internal test from one of my contacts it is from HAB the company that manufactures the enclomisign 50. It states 50mg of clomiphene citrate which is obviously not pure enclomiphene. All the indian and 95 percent of all claimed enclomiphene is simply clomiphene as it's cheap and readily available.

 

[natmak12]

I am hoping the fact that @Raptor Labs pointed this out, how enclo is actually enclo ?? Haha hopefully

 

[Chowmanly]

I managed to get a internal test from one of my contacts it is from HAB the company that manufactures the enclomisign 50. It states 50mg of clomiphene citrate which is obviously not pure enclomiphene. All the indian and 95 percent of all claimed enclomiphene is simply clomiphene as it's cheap and readily available.

Thanks for posting this.

 

[natmak12]

Hi all, still looking for an enclomiphene source. Raptor is still many weeks away for supply.

 

[natmak12]

Update*

FSH -5
Lh-5
Test - 20

HCG is working.

 

[LevButlerov]

Update*

FSH -5
Lh-5
Test - 20

HCG is working.

please post this in your recovery log @natmak12
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/coming-off-trt-and-natural-recovery-log.111431/

 

[Prymal]

Hi all, still looking for an enclomiphene source. Raptor is still many weeks away for supply.

Ours arrived today if you need brother

 

[natmak12]

Ours arrived today if you need brother

Hi mate, do you have a picture? Is is 100% enclo, not Clomid?

 

[TheComeback]

Thanks for posting this.

According to Gemini, for what it’s worth:

The box is phrased this way because enclomiphene is chemically derived directly from clomiphene citrate. [1, 2]
The packaging is using standard pharmaceutical labeling rules to describe exactly what compound is in the tablet and how much of the active effect it delivers.

1. The Chemical Relationship
Clomiphene citrate is a mixture made of two parts: enclomiphene and zuclomiphene. To make En-Clofert, manufacturers take clomiphene citrate and filter out all of the zuclomiphene, leaving behind only the purified enclomiphene isomer. [1, 2]

2. USP Standards
The letters USP stand for United States Pharmacopeia. This is an official organization that sets strict quality and purity standards for medicines. Because clomiphene citrate has an officially recognized USP standard and pure enclomiphene historically does not have its own separate, standalone USP monograph category, the label references the parent compound ("Clomiphene Citrate USP") to legally prove the chemical origin and purity standards of the raw material used. [1, 2]

3. The "Equivalent to" Dosage
The phrase "equivalent to 50mg enclomiphene" is the most important part for your actual dose. It means:

• The tablet was manufactured starting from a clomiphene citrate base.
• However, all the unwanted zuclomiphene has been removed.
• The final pill delivers the exact medical strength of 50mg of pure, active enclomiphene

 

[marinosgr]

According to Gemini, for what it’s worth:

The box is phrased this way because enclomiphene is chemically derived directly from clomiphene citrate. [1, 2]
The packaging is using standard pharmaceutical labeling rules to describe exactly what compound is in the tablet and how much of the active effect it delivers.

1. The Chemical Relationship
Clomiphene citrate is a mixture made of two parts: enclomiphene and zuclomiphene. To make En-Clofert, manufacturers take clomiphene citrate and filter out all of the zuclomiphene, leaving behind only the purified enclomiphene isomer. [1, 2]

2. USP Standards
The letters USP stand for United States Pharmacopeia. This is an official organization that sets strict quality and purity standards for medicines. Because clomiphene citrate has an officially recognized USP standard and pure enclomiphene historically does not have its own separate, standalone USP monograph category, the label references the parent compound ("Clomiphene Citrate USP") to legally prove the chemical origin and purity standards of the raw material used. [1, 2]

3. The "Equivalent to" Dosage
The phrase "equivalent to 50mg enclomiphene" is the most important part for your actual dose. It means:

• The tablet was manufactured starting from a clomiphene citrate base.
• However, all the unwanted zuclomiphene has been removed.
• The final pill delivers the exact medical strength of 50mg of pure, active enclomiphene

Mate your info is incorrect. All indian products use clomiphene citrate. Nothing is started from a clomiphene base lol they simply buy pressed pills from a contract manufacturer with cheap clomiphene citrate. Enclomiphene pure RAWS are extremely expensive and not available for purchase within indian market via legal license arrangement.

You mention en clofert do you know their manufacturer?

I managed to get a internal test from one of my contacts it is from HAB the company that manufactures the enclomisign 50 biggest seller out of india. It states 50mg of clomiphene citrate which is obviously not pure enclomiphene. All the indian and 95 percent of all claimed enclomiphene is simply clomiphene as it's cheap and readily available.

Please refer to HAB document.

Thanks.