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Thank you! I've tried reading through the various threads as much as I can, GW seems to be a consensus no-brainer… But I haven't really found anything that explains why, what does GW impact and how that makes it effective? As far as ITPP I do not seem to be able to locate much in the way of research, just anecdotal discussion… But the science behind what it is and what it does makes it interesting enough to look at.
Do you think these two pair together would make for a strong endurance pair?
Do you think these two pair together would make for a strong endurance pair?
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GW is definitely the best. From there, it would depend on your desire to stack steroids, or keep it simple with SARMS. If you run the SARMs triple stack (ostarine, cardarine and andarine) the results will be enhanced even further. However, you could also run a test cycle at 500 mgs per week, EQ at 400 mgs per week, and cardarine GW at 12.5 mgs ED. All of them for 12 weeks. Add to it some aromasin at 12.5 mgs EOD, and N2Guard. This will be an absolute endurance killer stack. As for PCT, run the perfect PCT.
Really want to try ITPP - I knew this guy from a Canadian endurance site who said he was running it orally twice a week and made him feel fabulous along with GW. Nobody here as really had the chance to review ITPP but I would be willing to try it some day in the future.
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Me too. Let me know if you find a good source. I will go in with you on an order.
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I've been salivating to do that stack. I finally jumped in. Started GW a few weeks ago and hit long acting EPO(Mircera) last week. Should be at my optimal hematocrit in 5 or so days. I'm new to GW but have years of experience with EPO. I will let you know how it goes.
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Give this article a read for more information on cardarine and how it works: http://www.evolutionary.org/cardarine/
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I agree with this. I would a low dose test + eq + cardarine. This is what I recommend:
Weeks 1 - 12
testosterone 300mg/week
EQ 500mg/week
cardarine gw 20mg/day (10mg AM 10mg PM)
aromasin 12.5mg EOD
After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
iwannagofaster
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This might work for body builder endurance but the test too high for a pure endurance athlete. Water retention would be too much. I don't know about the EQ but from what I've heard from other endurance athletes, that would be way too high.
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Thank you! I'm trying to keep it as simple as possible… Not really at the point where I want to take the plunge and get into the steroids quite yet, but I'm sure that will come. EPO is definitely a clear winner but the side effect potential is pretty real without consistent attention to bloodwork and dosing. Seems like you can get similar benefit running the ITPP without any of the side effects concerns of EPO?
iwannagofaster
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I don't feel like many of us here know much about it. It looks and sounds promising. You're gonna get the normal packaged answer "20mgs if GW per day" . You will get it over and over from guys who think endurance is running a 10k. I can tell you that there are many things out there that work for the endurance athlete. Cobalt Chloride, blue blood, Plasma injections, EPO, low dose test, transfusions, GW, GH, EQ....... Pick your potion. In my experience, none work quite like blood manipulation. EPO, transfusions, plasma injections. I'm researching GW now and maybe it is the silver bullet. I feel like it is good stuff. I'm also really interested in ITPP. Its one of the few endurance drugs that I haven't had the chance to test yet.
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never ran itpp but gw is amazing for endurance. I never ran epo either, to risky for someone thats not into endurance based sports.
Can you dose GW Twice in a day for a substantial event? Say 20mg early am and then 20mg 6-7 hours into the event?
I have some of the ITPP, I will let you know results(if any) I see. My understanding is it has a long half life but not sure yet how long to effectiveness
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I have some of the ITPP, I will let you know results(if any) I see. My understanding is it has a long half life but not sure yet how long to effectiveness
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Awesome on the ITPP - let us know how it goes. Is this injectable or oral form? With GW you really only need to dose once in the AM 20mg and that's all. Taking more isn't going to increase its effects.
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Also when I ran EQ I loved it but it bulked my skinny ass right up. Some endurance guys wouldn't like having that much mass on their frame. If I ever run EQ again for endurance it will be a long and low dose run - which I know some think is counter intuitive but I believe it will work as the ester builds in the body. Also test and eq cause some water retention too and everybody is different but I feel that 100mg-150mg of test a week is all that's needed.
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Also when I ran EQ I loved it but it bulked my skinny ass right up. Some endurance guys wouldn't like having that much mass on their frame. If I ever run EQ again for endurance it will be a long and low dose run - which I know some think is counter intuitive but I believe it will work as the ester builds in the body. Also test and eq cause some water retention too and everybody is different but I feel that 100mg-150mg of test a week is all that's needed.
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Would you be opposed to stacking Test, EQ, Deca, Winny, and Cardarine for endurance?
iwannagofaster
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Winstrol is a bad idea. It will dry you out too much.
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jackedtothemax
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Thanks Bro. Any suggestions to keep my weight down and limit any bulk buildup from Deca and EQ?
iwannagofaster
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I don't know about EQ. I have no experience with it. I've only heard about it and that you gain due to excessive hunger but get strong as can be. I run NPP at 210 mg a week(30mg day) and I'm able to stay pretty lean. I feel I'd need to drop it to 125mg a week if I were competing though. I can't get quite lean enough for endurance competition at 200mg week.
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When I'm healthy, I usually run 40-80 miles per week. That keeps me lean.
Even on EQ I stay lean, but I usually never use more than 200mg of EQ per week.
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It is tremendous.....best cardio impact I have run into, even when placed into high elevations I was able to keep moving aggressivley. I think ITTP is expensive as hell.....but boy does it work, incredibly well.
Yes, but to be honest I never saw that much impact from the GW
The ITPP was significant..
There are varying doses but given the half-life I dosed
.5 g every 5 days
I also tried 100mg every four days but it got too difficult to keep up with... I would run four on four off
Currently stacking this product again now, I may toy round with some higher dosages but overall I would say it was the most effective instrument in cardio impact.
Unlike EQ which actually increases hematocrit levels current levels this stuff works by affecting the binding affinity of oxygen to hemoglobin and thus affecting A right shift in the disassociation curve.
In layman's terms… It allows tissues to be delivered more oxygen than they currently receive, pretty amazing stuff actually.
Would probably stack phenomenally well with EQ
I ran it for a situational purpose, and it performed phenomenally well. It's a little too expensive to run consistently,
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The ITPP was significant..
There are varying doses but given the half-life I dosed
.5 g every 5 days
I also tried 100mg every four days but it got too difficult to keep up with... I would run four on four off
Currently stacking this product again now, I may toy round with some higher dosages but overall I would say it was the most effective instrument in cardio impact.
Unlike EQ which actually increases hematocrit levels current levels this stuff works by affecting the binding affinity of oxygen to hemoglobin and thus affecting A right shift in the disassociation curve.
In layman's terms… It allows tissues to be delivered more oxygen than they currently receive, pretty amazing stuff actually.
Would probably stack phenomenally well with EQ
I ran it for a situational purpose, and it performed phenomenally well. It's a little too expensive to run consistently,
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Nyles is good
I have not tried EQ/Epo yet… I've tried to avoid needles
I do think there is definitely a game in efficacy when dosing subq, which would be great… I did read some info regarding pain at site of injection if I'm not mistaken, so be aware of that as it appears to be normal
This is absolutely nothing like Equipoise or Epo / EQ (they are the same thing)
EQ works by increasing rbc density, as a result it really should be taken in an environment where you are able to monitor blood results… You do not want to make your blood jelly up
This works by right shifting the disassociation curve between O2 and RBC
A stack of EQ and ITPP sounds incredible for endurance, really incredible
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I have not tried EQ/Epo yet… I've tried to avoid needles
I do think there is definitely a game in efficacy when dosing subq, which would be great… I did read some info regarding pain at site of injection if I'm not mistaken, so be aware of that as it appears to be normal
This is absolutely nothing like Equipoise or Epo / EQ (they are the same thing)
EQ works by increasing rbc density, as a result it really should be taken in an environment where you are able to monitor blood results… You do not want to make your blood jelly up
This works by right shifting the disassociation curve between O2 and RBC
A stack of EQ and ITPP sounds incredible for endurance, really incredible
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bro that shit gave me horrible cramps...total garbage
bro most people dont realize peptides fake as shit...especially all of them from china...nasty ass sides like heavy metal poisoning...
Honestly cramping on ITPP or any type of drug that enhances RBC oxygen capacity or increases VO2 max.. Not sure you tried legitimate stuff.
So you would suggest 500mg every five days still? Also I was thinking about ordering it from nyles7, but want to take it sub, is this like other peptides, can I just add the powder to a sterile vial and BA water to make injections?
One gram of the powder is typically mixed with 40ml of Ethanol (or Everclear) yielding a solution of 25mg per ml (or cc).
