EQ, Test, Dbol

[A9229]

Hi guy I'm planning my 3rd cycle
First two consisted of
Test-c 300mg/week
Superdrol 1-4 10 Ed

Did the same cyle twice

I want to plan and get everything ready for when I decide when to go back on

Stats are 29, 5,8 186 pounds 13℅ bf


Could I do:

Test-c 1-16 300mg/w
Eq- 400 mg/w
Dbol-20 mg/d

And

Perfect PCT protocol

 

[DTA707]

I'd up the EQ to at least 600mg. 800-900mg is the sweet spot IMO. I don't see you getting much for 400

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[muskate]

Your cycle itself looks fine but you are missing 2 very important support supplements.

1. An aromatize inhibitor (AI) like aromasin to keep estrogen in the low-normal range. Testosterone and dbol are two very estrogenic steroids. You really run the risk of developing gyno from your cycle by not using an AI with your cycle. Start the AI on day 1 of your cycle and run it throughout your entire cycle. Aromasin at 10-12.5mg EOD is a good dosage for your cycle.

2. A good liver aid supplement. Dbol is a liver toxic oral steroid. A good liver aid supplement will keep liver toxicity to a minimum. Look for a liver aid supplement based on TUDCA, NAC and milk thistle. I really like the product N2guard from n2bm.com.

I would bump up your test dosage to 500mg/week and dbol to 30mg/day. Your EQ dosage looks good.

 

[stevesmi]

I'd up the EQ to at least 600mg. 800-900mg is the sweet spot IMO. I don't see you getting much for 400

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damn bro are you using underdosed gear? I've always gotten great results on EQ at 500mg a week tops

remember it is a slow builder and aromatizes so slowly that it comes with little water retention. so guys assume it isn't doing anything but it is helping build lean muscle mass slowly. let it do its job, no reason for such a high dosage IMO

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

You could certainly run that cycle but personally I would bump your doses a bit. I would go with test at 500mg, EQ at 600mg, and dbol at 30mg. That is just my personal preference. Make sure you are using aromasin because test and dbol aromatize very heavily. EQ very slowly. Definitely include N2Guard to keep your liver safe as well. What does your PCT look like?

 

[P10]

damn bro are you using underdosed gear? I've always gotten great results on EQ at 500mg a week tops

I saw that you said this, and I agree with you. I am getting solid results at around 560mg/wk (400mg/ml, 1.4ml/week). But it is contradictory to the evolutionary website about eq where wolfgang recommends 600mg/week for cutting and 800mg/week for bulking.

 

[Vallieflag]

Consider tbol or anavar for the oral, seeing as EQ will give you such lean gains, might as well do a nice lean cycle and eat really well and see where that gets ya. Probably keep more of your gains aswell.

 

[stevesmi]

I saw that you said this, and I agree with you. I am getting solid results at around 560mg/wk (400mg/ml, 1.4ml/week). But it is contradictory to the evolutionary website about eq where wolfgang recommends 600mg/week for cutting and 800mg/week for bulking.

well the nice thing about EQ is it is very mild, so you can abuse it without side effects getting out of control.

 

[Vallieflag]

Your thoughts and responses A9229?

 

[Jay Scott]

I'd up the EQ to at least 600mg. 800-900mg is the sweet spot IMO. I don't see you getting much for 400

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Even though 900mg sounds a bit excessive, I would probably agree with the 600.

Also, do not forget to have an AI in your cycle and some liver protection if you are taking dbol. The best supplement I encountered for that was N2Guard. Love it.

As for test, also bump it to 400-500 at least. Dbol could stay at 20mg/ed, even tho a lot of people recommend going something near 40.

 

[A9229]

How does sound?
Test C- 500 mg/w
Eq- 600 mg/w
Dbol 30mg/ Ed x 4 weeks
Aromasin 12.5 mg/ eod

How long's should I run the test and eq for? Is 16 weeks for both ideal, or should I end one sooner than the other?

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Looks good as far as the compounds but you still need something for your liver with N2Guard. I highly recommend N2Guard. I would run the test and EQ both for 16 weeks. Afterwards run the perfect pct - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html

 

[muskate]

How does sound?
Test C- 500 mg/w
Eq- 600 mg/w
Dbol 30mg/ Ed x 4 weeks
Aromasin 12.5 mg/ eod

How long's should I run the test and eq for? Is 16 weeks for both ideal, or should I end one sooner than the other?

EQ has a half life of 14 days so it's best to do long and mild cycles with EQ. I recommend 16 week cycles.

The only thing missing from your cycle is a good liver aid supplement when using the dbol. Look for a liver aid supplement based on TUDCA, NAC and milk thistle. I really like the product n2guard from n2bm.com

 

[Jay Scott]

How does sound?
Test C- 500 mg/w
Eq- 600 mg/w
Dbol 30mg/ Ed x 4 weeks
Aromasin 12.5 mg/ eod

How long's should I run the test and eq for? Is 16 weeks for both ideal, or should I end one sooner than the other?

This looks pretty nice. I would run test 2 weeks longer than EQ. So either stop EQ in week 14 or continue test for 18 weeks.

Also, N2Guard would be an awesome addition to keep your liver healthy and happy.

 

[A9229]

This looks pretty nice. I would run test 2 weeks longer than EQ. So either stop EQ in week 14 or continue test for 18 weeks.

Also, N2Guard would be an awesome addition to keep your liver healthy and happy.

Is it a must to run the TEST 2 weeks longer then the EQ.

Also should I add HCG to this cycle?

 

[muskate]

Is it a must to run the TEST 2 weeks longer then the EQ.

Also should I add HCG to this cycle?

It is not a must to run the test 2 weeks longer then the EQ. I personally always run the test and EQ the same length.

Do some research on HCG. It's a pretty controversial topic. Here is a good article for you to read on what HCG is -> https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/...rofile-1487993.html?highlight=hcg+weight+loss

Human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) is a polypeptide hormone produced by pregnant women after the implantation of the embryo takes place.

I dont advocate HCG usage at all. Whenever you put an exogenous source of testosterone into your body (like when on a steroid cycle), your natural testosterone production will be suppressed. HCG wont change that but will only add side effects because HCG increases estrogen levels in the body. HCG is also suppressive of natural testosterone production.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

I would just run them the same time to keep it simple.

As for HCG, I agree with Muskate. I really don't think it has any value in a steroid cycle and definitely should never be used in PCT.

 

[Jay Scott]

Is it a must to run the TEST 2 weeks longer then the EQ.

Also should I add HCG to this cycle?

The reason people suggest running test for longer is to give time for your body to still have higher test while the EQ clears out. More gains and better well-being while still on cycle and transitioning into PCT.

As for HCG - either run it during the cycle (250-500iu per shot twice a week) or do not run it at all.