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I have a friend who recently came off his first cycle of test 500 and deca, and I am ready to begin my first cycle. I have been working out seriously for about 19 months now. I'm 6'4" 193 lbs and about 14% body fat. I'm new to all this and I really don't know about the dosing, pct, etc. I am doing research, but another friend of mine pointed me this direction. Could someone help me with lay out my cycle? Thanks! Disclaimer: I know I am small, but when I started I weighed 150(no I'm not kidding).s
StraightSkoal
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Everyone is going to tell you the same thing. Do some research there is a lot on here to learn from. Get your diet in check first, keep it test based first run to see how you react, and follow the perfect PCT pinned on this forum.
geared0321
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Welcome to Evo bud, like skoal said- you're pretty much going to hear it from every one, do you research on here, watch over and all topics that you can.
As far as a cycle goes... I saw your stats, but no age.. how old are you? (Yes this matters a lot)
As far as a cycle goes... I saw your stats, but no age.. how old are you? (Yes this matters a lot)
Thank you! I guess there is just so much I don't know. I have other questions too, but trying to find answers on the internet is... well you get what you get. I don't mind doing light cycles or trying different things before trying a cycle. I'm just kind of learning on my own and idk if what I read is good advice or bad advice. Any forums or ideas you can point out is helpful!
Thanks!
Thanks!
StraightSkoal
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Donk if you just come here every day you learn so much!! That's what I am doing... I still am picking things up every day it's an amazing place here!! Look to some of the vets here when you want an honest opinion. Read and read more!
StraightSkoal
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Just ask Rebel... I'll bug him on stuff 
people are great here!
people are great here!
signaturess3
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Yes buddy, Test only cycle first time around & follow the perfect PCT and you'll be all set
If I run 500mg of test a week for my first cycle for 10 weeks, is there anything else I need during the cycle or do I just follow the perfect PCT. I noticed in the lessons learned thread it says to have everything on hand. I guess I'm just confused on what everything is! Thanks in advance!
NY REBEL
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I would highly recommend N2Guard during cycle, and hcgenerate ES from N2BM for pct.. Have your ai on hand.. Well, Everything lol
Hey man. Welcome to evo.
I started around 6'2 like 160's 170. I went to 210 naturally before I started. 19 months is good but there are places you can start first.
Option 1- sarms. Sarms triple stack is a great starting point. It teaches you dosing and discipline structure it would take for the real deal. It builds a solid foundation as well similar to what prohormones were able to do. They are significantly healthier for you than AAS or a PH.
If you insist on AAS. Basic 10 weeks of test e at 350-500mgs.
Make sure you have an AI on hand before you start tour cycle. Make sure you also have your pct materials before the cycle as well. You don't want any fuck ups.
N2guard is a grea th addition for general health however if money is tight I'd rather see you invest your money in diet over anything else. Your protein intake should be high with moderate carb intake. When I say high protein shoot for 2g per lb of bodyweight.
That's about it bud. Keep us posted on what you end up doing.
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I started around 6'2 like 160's 170. I went to 210 naturally before I started. 19 months is good but there are places you can start first.
Option 1- sarms. Sarms triple stack is a great starting point. It teaches you dosing and discipline structure it would take for the real deal. It builds a solid foundation as well similar to what prohormones were able to do. They are significantly healthier for you than AAS or a PH.
If you insist on AAS. Basic 10 weeks of test e at 350-500mgs.
Make sure you have an AI on hand before you start tour cycle. Make sure you also have your pct materials before the cycle as well. You don't want any fuck ups.
N2guard is a grea th addition for general health however if money is tight I'd rather see you invest your money in diet over anything else. Your protein intake should be high with moderate carb intake. When I say high protein shoot for 2g per lb of bodyweight.
That's about it bud. Keep us posted on what you end up doing.
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NY REBEL
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Absolutely!! Now your thinking
Thanks guys. NY it will take me a couple days going on vaca this weekend! I will try to put something together before the first of next week!
NY REBEL
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Killer. Take your time and soak up the knowledge.. I'm actually at the beach myself. Lol
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There is nothing really much to add to what has been already said here. I will only advice you to have all of your gear on hand before you start, including all of the ancillaries and PCT. This should be the rule number one for everyone about to begin a cycle.
I would hold off on starting a cycle until you have your diet and training down first. You can still make a lot of progress naturally with your current stats. Eventually you are going to hit a natural plateau and that's when you want to add in the steroids. This sport is a marathon. Be patient and enjoy the process.
If you want to supplement your diet and training with anything, look into SARMS. Particularly the SARMS triple stack. http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocol
After the triple stack, run a mini PCT. 4 weeks of the following:
clomid at 25mg/day
nolvadex at 20mg/day
HCGenerate ES at 5 capsules/day
n2guard at 3 capsules/day
SARMS are minimally suppressive, there is no risk of amortization (therefore no estrogen related side effects) and legal to use. You can get everything you need off sarms1.com, n2bm.com and ag-guys.com
If you want to supplement your diet and training with anything, look into SARMS. Particularly the SARMS triple stack. http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocol
After the triple stack, run a mini PCT. 4 weeks of the following:
clomid at 25mg/day
nolvadex at 20mg/day
HCGenerate ES at 5 capsules/day
n2guard at 3 capsules/day
SARMS are minimally suppressive, there is no risk of amortization (therefore no estrogen related side effects) and legal to use. You can get everything you need off sarms1.com, n2bm.com and ag-guys.com
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I will start buy stating that 19 months is pretty small amount of time spent training to jump on a cycle. I would train natty for awhile longer and you can do all your research in the mean time. As others have stated, make sure your training is on point along with your diet and rest schedule. Test only for your first cycle (C or E are excellent choices). Follow the perfect PCT found in Rebels signature and enjoy the ride. Make sure you have all your gear on hand INCLUDING PCT!
I will start buy stating that 19 months is pretty small amount of time spent training to jump on a cycle. I would train natty for awhile longer and you can do all your research in the mean time. As others have stated, make sure your training is on point along with your diet and rest schedule. Test only for your first cycle (C or E are excellent choices). Follow the perfect PCT found in Rebels signature and enjoy the ride. Make sure you have all your gear on hand INCLUDING PCT!
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Read up on test dbol pct u will find all u need brother
vladithor24
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Search Evo beginner cycles think it suggest a few sarms cycles first then adds in test
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NY I have the cycle picked out to run and I know to order everything from the PCT now what else do I need to be looking for. I keep reading about having these things on hand in case something goes wrong, but I dont know what it is.
If I start with SARMS will I see results? I read the articles, but its an advertisement so will i actually see gains?
bro sarms give great results....but up to you if you believe or not...check the 1000s of threads and feedback cycles on evo.....i've been using sarms for over 5 years now and the results are amazing...so has my girl...
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You will definitely see results. Perhaps you won't gain as much as on tren, but you will have some really high quality muscles, coupled with fat loss. Besides, SARMs are much safer, you need less ancillaries and a mini-PCT will be enough.
depends on you.
And make sure you actually max it out. Typically people think they run out of gas when they got much more in the tank.
you dont need hcg on a test cycle. nguard is for sides, if you dont care about side effects, dont use it. aromasin is a must, to atleast have on hand. gw is for endurance increases that are amazing, again dont use it if you dont want. osta clomid and nolva are very minimal pct. if you dont care about recovery, then dont use them lol. osta is also amazing in pct to help keep gains in pct. everything is your choice, we just give opinons
Yes you will. Truthfully, not the same results as steroids but the SARMS cycle will be much easier on your body and easier to recover from. It is a good start for beginners. Start slow and slowly work your way up. Run a few cycles of SARMS, get some more time under your belt with proper diet and training and then consider using steroids.
HCG should not be used. Use HCGenerate ES from n2bm.com
No it is not excessive. Your body is in an extremely fragile state after a cycle. A proper PCT will go a long way in making your natural testosterone production recover and keeping your body healthy. Don't cut corners when it comes to your health.
Remember it's not about what you gain on cycle - it's about what you keep. Without a well though out PCT protocol, you will loose almost all of the gains you made on the cycle when you come off.
Muskate please check the last page of this bro this is where I am at. I've decided to run a cycle and the link on the last page of the post I linked above is a picture of my plan.
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