First real cycle. Need some advice

[Withani]

I say real cycle because my first was just test e alone. Not knocking it because i was actually surprised with the results for some reason.
This cycle I'm running:
250mg test e 2x/wk. (500mg/wk)Weeks 1-12
150 mg Deca 2x/wk weeks 1-11 (300mg/wk) but now after reading more Im thinking 400mg weekly?
40 mg dbol ED for the first 5 weeks

Running the deca a week short because from my research ive found I shouldnt start pct for 3 weeks from last deca inject and 2 weeks for the test e.

I have clomid and nolvadex for pct. Was planning on starting a low dose of nolvadex (10-20mg) around week 4 just in case. (I have a shit ton) and clomid ill start 2 weeks after last test inject. Not sure on the dosage yet.
Been reading 300mg first day, then 100mg next 10 days then 50mg next ten days. Think that'd be enough or should i up it? Is HCG highly recomended for this cycle? Should i make any adjustments to my cycle?
If it matters im 6'4. 215 lbs.
Thanks in advance

 

[muskate]

Check out this article man -> http://www.evolutionary.org/testosterone-deca-durabolin-dbol-cycle
It explains how to properly run a test/deca/dbol cycle

Your PCT is a total mess. You NEVER want to use HCG in a PCT protocol since it is suppressive of natural testosterone production.

The perfect PCT article explains how to properly run a PCT after your cycle -> http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

 

[Withani]

I appreciate the info brotha.
Ive got a couple questions about the Pct article.
It says I SHOULD use hcg to kickstart my pct. As of right now it isn't a part of my pct but after reading the article it looks though as i should add it? And second, is this pct effective for all doses. Or would you say thats for a low-moderate dosed cycle?
Thanks in advance my dude

 

[Mobster]

I appreciate the info brotha.
Ive got a couple questions about the Pct article.
It says I SHOULD use hcg to kickstart my pct. As of right now it isn't a part of my pct but after reading the article it looks though as i should add it? And second, is this pct effective for all doses. Or would you say thats for a low-moderate dosed cycle?
Thanks in advance my dude

Re-post the question in the PCT thread.

 

[Withani]

Will do, thank you.

 

[stevesmi]

no man.. throw the hcg away

also a first cycle needs to be simple.. you are complicating things

the #1 rule when using deca is you always use proviron with it. if you do not know why then you aren't ready to use it yet. if you need a coach cause you don't want to research hit me up.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

The cycle is horrible. You are going to look like a bloated fish with 3 wet compounds. That is the first issue. Second issue is running nolva on cycle. You never do that. It isn't an AI, it is a SERM. You need something like aromasin. And on top of that, running nolva alongside deca is a recipe for nipples oozing fluid. HCG is the worst thing you could run. Do you really want to inject an extract from pregnant female piss? And lastly, the PCT is awful. You will have no dick and not keep much of your gains. You should really read the perfect pct sticky. Sorry to be so harsh but I really want to stress how bad this layout is and prevent you from having major issues.

 

[fighting60]

The cycle is horrible. You are going to look like a bloated fish with 3 wet compounds. That is the first issue. Second issue is running nolva on cycle. You never do that. It isn't an AI, it is a SERM. You need something like aromasin. And on top of that, running nolva alongside deca is a recipe for nipples oozing fluid. HCG is the worst thing you could run. Do you really want to inject an extract from pregnant female piss? And lastly, the PCT is awful. You will have no dick and not keep much of your gains. You should really read the perfect pct sticky. Sorry to be so harsh but I really want to stress how bad this layout is and prevent you from having major issues.

Never, Never, Never run deca and nolvadex together!!! Nolvadex is for gyno and for pct only, aromasin at half a pill eod is sufficient.

 

[beefyfan]

I say real cycle because my first was just test e alone. Not knocking it because i was actually surprised with the results for some reason.
This cycle I'm running:
250mg test e 2x/wk. (500mg/wk)Weeks 1-12
150 mg Deca 2x/wk weeks 1-11 (300mg/wk) but now after reading more Im thinking 400mg weekly?
40 mg dbol ED for the first 5 weeks

Running the deca a week short because from my research ive found I shouldnt start pct for 3 weeks from last deca inject and 2 weeks for the test e.

I have clomid and nolvadex for pct. Was planning on starting a low dose of nolvadex (10-20mg) around week 4 just in case. (I have a shit ton) and clomid ill start 2 weeks after last test inject. Not sure on the dosage yet.
Been reading 300mg first day, then 100mg next 10 days then 50mg next ten days. Think that'd be enough or should i up it? Is HCG highly recomended for this cycle? Should i make any adjustments to my cycle?
If it matters im 6'4. 215 lbs.
Thanks in advance

If you are hell bent on running deca and dbol, you had better have exemestane and proviron in that cycle. Wouldn't be a bad idea to have prami, caber, letro and cialis on hand in case of emergencyies. Skip the tamoxifen and use clomid for your main pct. The two drugs that fucked me up the most were deca and dbol. I would prefer using tren and superdrol over those two.