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Hey gang -

First cycle ever. Test only 12-week cycle, 500 TestC per week split into 250 Sunday AM, and 250 Wednesday PM. Test results taken Wednesday prior to next pin.

Just got my bloodwork done at 4.5 weeks in. Test is 3590, but my Estradiol is also high -- 47.3.

Had been taking .5 arimidex EOD. Had a few days when I thought my nipples were getting a bit sensitive so upped to .75 EOD -- that was about a week before the labs.

Looking for some guidance here. Up the arimidex, and to how much? ... or switch to aromasin (which I'd have to wait for shipping on) and then take how much?

After taking action, how long should I wait to re-test ?
 
Dang bro, e needs to be around low twenties. Test is awesome at 500 per week, be careful wit arimidex as it will crash your e real fast, that is not bueno. Are you running pharmacy grade or ugl, if ugl what lab?

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Bro switch to aromasin if you can and start out at 12.5mg eod. Or if you wanna stay on arimidex, bump it up to 1mg eod and see how you feel.
 
txjustin said:
Hey gang -

First cycle ever. Test only 12-week cycle, 500 TestC per week split into 250 Sunday AM, and 250 Wednesday PM. Test results taken Wednesday prior to next pin.

Just got my bloodwork done at 4.5 weeks in. Test is 3590, but my Estradiol is also high -- 47.3.

Had been taking .5 arimidex EOD. Had a few days when I thought my nipples were getting a bit sensitive so upped to .75 EOD -- that was about a week before the labs.

Looking for some guidance here. Up the arimidex, and to how much? ... or switch to aromasin (which I'd have to wait for shipping on) and then take how much?

After taking action, how long should I wait to re-test ?
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1) Arimidex sucks in comparison to Aromasin...it can jack up your lipid profile, lowers your IGF-1 and has other undesirable sides like its ability to crash your E too low or cause estrogen rebound once you come off it. Still can't understand why doctor's seem to love it so much when its so clearly and indisputably inferior to Aromasin which is well tolerated, doesn't affect lipid profiles hardly at all, significantly increases IGF-1 and will not crash your E even when taken at 50mg a day doses or cause estrogen rebound.

2) I'd take 20-25mg of Aromasin daily, and it seems to work better for me in split doses, but maybe I'm just imagining that...
 
Beastly said:
1) Arimidex sucks in comparison to Aromasin...it can jack up your lipid profile, lowers your IGF-1 and has other undesirable sides like its ability to crash your E too low or cause estrogen rebound once you come off it. Still can't understand why doctor's seem to love it so much when its so clearly and indisputably inferior to Aromasin which is well tolerated, doesn't affect lipid profiles hardly at all, significantly increases IGF-1 and will not crash your E even when taken at 50mg a day doses or cause estrogen rebound.

2) I'd take 20-25mg of Aromasin daily, and it seems to work better for me in split doses, but maybe I'm just imagining that...
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That'd be way more Aromasin than I would recommend in a day. I was taking 25mg 3 times a week on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, and I was having a hard time getting off. I went to a vet about it and he said my estrogen was probably too low. Like you said, it won't crash you out and give you all the other bad shit like arimidex will, but you should still take it responsibly. I had to switch back to 12.5mg eod.
 
Taylor.Dauwe said:
That'd be way more Aromasin than I would recommend in a day. I was taking 25mg 3 times a week on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, and I was having a hard time getting off. I went to a vet about it and he said my estrogen was probably too low. Like you said, it won't crash you out and give you all the other bad shit like arimidex will, but you should still take it responsibly. I had to switch back to 12.5mg eod.
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At 25 mgsper day in studies with male participants, it kept their E in the low-normal range. In fact, 25 mgs seems to be the max dosage that has an effect as even taking 50 mgs a day kept it at the same level...

And for some I suppose it might be high...I'm on TRT and have to take 15-20mg of Aromasin a day or I get estrogen sides(HBP and adrenaline bursts). I must be one of the unlucky over-aromatizers...
 
Beastly said:
At 25 mgsper day in studies with male participants, it kept their E in the low-normal range. In fact, 25 mgs seems to be the max dosage that has an effect as even taking 50 mgs a day kept it at the same level...

And for some I suppose it might be high...I'm on TRT and have to take 15-20mg of Aromasin a day or I get estrogen sides(HBP and adrenaline bursts). I must be one of the unlucky over-aromatizers...
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I'm only in week 2 of the cycle or else I'd go get bloods to see where my e level is cause I definitely wanna be on the low end of the normal range as I had some natural gyno in my teen years growing up. Definitely don't need any of that. Haha.
 
I've been looking for Pharm Grade Aromasin as well.Two weeks ago my labs came back and E was 110.5 going to doc again the Friday but He'll probably just recommend getting off the T.I'm going to get the Ag Guy stuff until I can fins a good source on Aromasin. Good Luck .Maybe try the Ag Guy Masin
 
the rock said:
I've been looking for Pharm Grade Aromasin as well.Two weeks ago my labs came back and E was 110.5 going to doc again the Friday but He'll probably just recommend getting off the T.I'm going to get the Ag Guy stuff until I can fins a good source on Aromasin. Good Luck .Maybe try the Ag Guy Masin
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www.hipocampus.me bro. He has a whole selection of Pharma grade stuff. I've dealt with him quite a few times and he's a great guy and his products are definitely legit.
 
the rock said:
I've been looking for Pharm Grade Aromasin as well.Two weeks ago my labs came back and E was 110.5 going to doc again the Friday but He'll probably just recommend getting off the T.I'm going to get the Ag Guy stuff until I can fins a good source on Aromasin. Good Luck .Maybe try the Ag Guy Masin
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He also goes by Hipocampus.me on here. PM him and tell him I sent you and he'll take care of you.
 
Also look into Progesterone...it counterbalances estrogen and acts as an antagonist via multiple mechanisms and also acts synergistically with testosterone to increase muscle mass and fat loss...
 
Taylor.Dauwe said:
www.hipocampus.me bro. He has a whole selection of Pharma grade stuff. I've dealt with him quite a few times and he's a great guy and his products are definitely legit.
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That's expensive as fuck....AllDayChemist has generic exemestane 30 tabs of 25mgs for around $40...Black Widow Labs also has great quality aromasin 50 tabs at 20 mgs for $50 last price list I had...I've used both, no difference felt, both worked great
 
Beastly said:
That's expensive as fuck....AllDayChemist has generic exemestane 30 tabs of 25mgs for around $40...Black Widow Labs also has great quality aromasin 50 tabs at 20 mgs for $50 last price list I had...I've used both, no difference felt, both worked great
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That's the price of Pharma grade. It is expensive, and I don't even use Pharma grade Aromasin. I use Vermodje Aromasin, but he asked for Pharma grade, so I gave him my best source for Pharma grade Aromasin.
 
Taylor.Dauwe said:
That's the price of Pharma grade. It is expensive, and I don't even use Pharma grade Aromasin. I use Vermodje Aromasin, but he asked for Pharma grade, so I gave him my best source for Pharma grade Aromasin.
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Uhh, no its not. AllDayChemist is pharm grade as well.
 
Taylor.Dauwe said:
Also, you said his is generic. That's why. You know how it is, you pay for the brand. That's the difference between an American Eagle polo and a Ralph Lauren polo. haha.
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You are right in you are paying for the brand name, but you are wrong as by law its the exact same active ingredients in it, so there is ZERO difference in its effect. This would be the equivalent of paying an extra $10,000 to buy a car from dealer A when you could buy the same car from dealer B for $10,000 less.
 
Taylor.Dauwe said:
Never heard of them. I'll check em out. I see a lot more people talking about Hipo than alldaychemist though... Lol.
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Hey its their money, they want to waste it for no reason, that's on them I guess. AllDayChemist is one of the oldest, most respected online pharmacies there is. I never heard of Hipo, and with those prices and website that looks like it was designed by a 10 year old, I think I'll pass...
 
Beastly said:
You are right in you are paying for the brand name, but you are wrong as by law its the exact same active ingredients in it, so there is ZERO difference in its effect. This would be the equivalent of paying an extra $10,000 to buy a car from dealer A when you could buy the same car from dealer B for $10,000 less.
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I never said it wasn't the same ingredients? Lol. Hipo's Aromasin is a little high priced compared to the rest of his Pharma grade stuff, I'll give you that. But I'd order from him over alldaychemist any day of the week. No shots taken at your guy or anything, I'd just rather have the real deal Pfizer over a generic even if it is still Pharma grade. There are other countries in the world that have pharmacies, obviously, but let's be honest, they aren't all up to par with the pharmaceutical companies in a wealthy company like the US. But that's just my personal preference. Like I said, not trying to take shots at your guy, I'd just rather pay a little extra and ensure that I know what I'm getting is legit, since I've dealt with Hipo plenty of times in the past.
 
Beastly said:
Hey its their money, they want to waste it for no reason, that's on them I guess. AllDayChemist is one of the oldest, most respected online pharmacies there is. I never heard of Hipo, and with those prices and website that looks like it was designed by a 10 year old, I think I'll pass...
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With all due respect, Hipo is more talked about on this board than that alldaychemist cat you speak of. But like you said, their money, their decision.
 
Taylor.Dauwe said:
With all due respect, Hipo is more talked about on this board than that alldaychemist cat you speak of. But like you said, their money, their decision.
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ADC isn't a person, its an actual online/mail order pharmacy based in India, which is the capital of the international/online pharmaceutical industry, since their licensing deals they get from the drug companies are dirt dirt cheap. For example, in India, they are licensed to produce and sell drug XYZ for $5 but in countries like the US and other well off countries, the same drug is licensed for $100. Why? Because India is an extremely poor 3rd world country and people there couldn't afford to buy drug XYZ at $100.

And forget stuff like aromasin, arimidex, etc...people from numerous other health related forums order from ADC...many of whom rely on these medications to survive due to conditions such as diabetes, high cholesterol, etc...

Not sure where this Hipo comes in but I have seen ADC and its sister site ReliableRx mentioned numerous times on this board by many different people, but this is the first time I've ever seen/heard of Hipo...
 
Taylor.Dauwe said:
I never said it wasn't the same ingredients? Lol. Hipo's Aromasin is a little high priced compared to the rest of his Pharma grade stuff, I'll give you that. But I'd order from him over alldaychemist any day of the week. No shots taken at your guy or anything, I'd just rather have the real deal Pfizer over a generic even if it is still Pharma grade. There are other countries in the world that have pharmacies, obviously, but let's be honest, they aren't all up to par with the pharmaceutical companies in a wealthy company like the US. But that's just my personal preference. Like I said, not trying to take shots at your guy, I'd just rather pay a little extra and ensure that I know what I'm getting is legit, since I've dealt with Hipo plenty of times in the past.
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ADC sells the exact same "real deal Pfizer" for 90 tabs at the same price Hipo sells for 60 tabs.
 
Beastly said:
ADC sells the exact same "real deal Pfizer" for 90 tabs at the same price Hipo sells for 60 tabs.
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Which is currently sold out on adc website. Lol. Plus Hipo runs promos all the time. I have a 50% off coupon code to everything in his store right now. I'm buying 30 boxes of Proviron from him this week for 210 bucks bro. You won't find a better deal than that.
 
Your estrogen is high, but it's not incredibly out of range or anything. I don't think it would take much more of an AI dose to bring it down. I do agree however that 12.5mg EOD of aromasin is a good start and you can always adjust from there
 
stevesmi said:
aromasin will help prevent estrogen rebound

too many guys just haven't evolved into using it and stick with older ideas such as adex and even nolva for estrogen.
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I agree...cannot believe how clueless most doctor's are...aromasin is vastly superior in every way
 
I really dont think thats too bad of an E2 of course you want it lower but could be much worse.. Just up your dosage a little bit and you'll be fine
 
dont fuk around with RC companies. if you dont have pharma shit, buy liquidex from n2bm. its not 100% perfect, but it works & i know it will bring your E numbers down and know 110% its legit.

why take a chance with something that could be bunk..??? this is 1000000% real & 100000% will work.
 
I think it all comes down to who you really trust for your ancillaries, I have peace of mind knowing that I am getting 100% real deal even if it costs me more. like stevie said aromasin is always the way to go now and it will prevent estrogen rebound, which for me puts me at ease.
 
Good shit man. Hit some aromasin and you'll get your E2 down. AG Guys are fantastic.


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txjustin said:
Hey gang -

First cycle ever. Test only 12-week cycle, 500 TestC per week split into 250 Sunday AM, and 250 Wednesday PM. Test results taken Wednesday prior to next pin.

Just got my bloodwork done at 4.5 weeks in. Test is 3590, but my Estradiol is also high -- 47.3.

Had been taking .5 arimidex EOD. Had a few days when I thought my nipples were getting a bit sensitive so upped to .75 EOD -- that was about a week before the labs.

Looking for some guidance here. Up the arimidex, and to how much? ... or switch to aromasin (which I'd have to wait for shipping on) and then take how much?

After taking action, how long should I wait to re-test ?
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I'm curious to know, who are you getting your Test from?
 
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