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BigScuds

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I injected Hammer's test C last night and woke up this morning with some decent PIP that has gotten worse throughout the day. I've never gotten PIP from anything else so this is a new experience for me.
 
Technique is usually your main culprit for pip hanging around. That and virgin tissue. I pinned my quads for the first time a couple pins ago and pip was decent despite taking it slow and steady. Perhaps you should try a heating pad and/or a nice massage directly after pinning.
 
Testdude63 said:
Technique is usually your main culprit for pip hanging around. That and virgin tissue. I pinned my quads for the first time a couple pins ago and pip was decent despite taking it slow and steady. Perhaps you should try a heating pad and/or a nice massage directly after pinning.
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Heating pad a solid idea. I used it during my 6 month pin cushion run.
 
i haven't had any from hammers stuff, but it was test e. when i was using the cottonseed stuff it would last almost a week, but i think i was having a reaction. post 100! woooo
 
I pin in my quads, always have. Haven't pinned in 10 weeks so that could have something to do with it. Pinned 2ccs of test C 250.
 
kckcjl94 said:
i haven't had any from hammers stuff, but it was test e. when i was using the cottonseed stuff it would last almost a week, but i think i was having a reaction. post 100! woooo
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Vet already.. :) *congrats
 
I have ran hammer' test c. Zero pip. There should not be pip from test c.

What size needle? You wanna have 3-4 shots to really be able to confirm it. If it continues say 4 shots in, you need to bring it up to hammer.

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BigScuds said:
I injected Hammer's test C last night and woke up this morning with some decent PIP that has gotten worse throughout the day. I've never gotten PIP from anything else so this is a new experience for me.
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Depend on how much you pin where and how and is the gear genuine.. I use PSL Test 400. 0.5 ml is 200 mg and you can do it more than once per week. My wife sticks it into my glutes. We use a 1 ml syringe with a 1 3/8" 23 gauge needle. I have NEVER had any pain during or after the injection. I used some other shit ONCE whilst I waited for a package and ran out of the Test 400. It was like being stung by a wasp and I had a lump for almost a week.

Maybe your gear isn't good or it's an oil base that you react to make sure you swab with alcohol and use new needles and syringes. Make sure that you aspirate as well.
 
StraightSkoal said:
You guys got me nervous to pin! I wish I just knew someone personally that does to show me the ropes in person hah
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Its easy bro. Just stab... And hope you don't die instantly. :)
 
BigScuds said:
Well... That's not wrong per se. Lol! Just make sure you don't hit a vein or something. Incidentally, how much trouble would a guy be in if he did accidentally hit a blood vessel?
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You should be fine. I've went through viens, vessels.. Etc. Just don't inject directly into your blood stream.
 
NY REBEL said:
Heating pad a solid idea. I used it during my 6 month pin cushion run.
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Omg bro, 6 months holy shit, you are more a man then me that is a long freaking time buddy. I pin every 4 days now, and the 4th day im like dam. That's why I don't do Tren a anymore I get sick of hitting my self, lol
 
twistedtanker said:
Omg bro, 6 months holy shit, you are more a man then me that is a long freaking time buddy. I pin every 4 days now, and the 4th day im like dam. That's why I don't do Tren a anymore I get sick of hitting my self, lol
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6 month, ace, eod. Yup
 
twistedtanker said:
Check and see if your still alive bro, lol your the bad ass around here
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Lol. Ain't no thang. Coming off, I thought I would crash, and be sick and shit.. Fuck no. I felt amazing. I forgot what it felt like to be normal.. Calm.. Sleeping... Happy...
 
BigScuds said:
Hmm, maybe I'll try a bigger needle some time. But for now that's not what's causing my potential issue.
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Don't need bigger needle bud
 
Fûck I get tender about 6 weeks in lol im such a pussy, but that don't stop my pin, I did 12 weeks Tren a eod and i fucking hated needles by the end
 
I've had hellish PIP last any where from 3 days to 2 weeks, on a suspension run. As long as there was no sign of infection, I did not worry, just limped on!

Let me tell you, you gotta be one cool mofo, to walk half normal with a smile on your face, on a suspension run! Ahhh but the awesome gains, and setting new PR's
 
Woke up today and it was about the same. So I took a couple Ranger candies (800mg ibuprofen) and biked a few miles to get it worked out of there.
 
I used 25g 1" pins my first run. About to start my second run. I haven't had any problems drawing nor pinning. Got pip once a few weeks in and it sucked for like 3 days.

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Mine always depends on techniques used during pinning. Sometimes everything goes as planned, other times I forget to put the lock on the door and kids walk in.

Omg that crap hurts! Lol I usually use a handheld massage roller over the area being that I do 3cc pins
 
Yea see my pins only consist of a little over 1ml. I could only imagine doing 3cc now. I'm sure pip would hit even in the glute because of the amount at first.

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It's not a big deal, it's just annoying and a new experience for me because I've never had it. It's not an infection so I just have to wait it out. Don't be afraid to pin it bro
 
Depends. If I get pip in my delt is usually gone within a day. My quad and ass on the other hands sometimes stays very sore for nearly a week
 
I remember back about 10 years ago i did a test 500 and a deca 500 1cc each in my right glute. It felt like the world was ending. I ended that cycle about 9 weeks early.
 
I have had PIP for 5 days, while running sust 300. And the pain was unbelievable bad, for the first 3 days. By the time I was taking my second shot for the week, my other glute was still hurting from the first injection. So both of my glutes, were always sore. So I started using a Thermacare Heat Pain Patch and that was the ticket....... No pain at all. As soon as I took my injection, I would put that patch on and wear it for the first day and by day two, I was good to go. And the patch is very thin and comfortable to wear. You won't notice that you have it on. It really works and my PIP my was so bad, that, I was considering to stop taking the gear.
 
There is nothing to worry about. Usually it disappears in 2-3 days, 5 days max.
 
Thank god I have an office job and not my old construction job. There's no redness or warmth at the pin site so there's no infection. It just hurts like a bitch. And really making me hesitant to pin again this weekend..
 
For me, the pips seem to get worse the deeper into a cycle I get. Maybe it's scar tissue buildup or something. I've had it almost stop me from walking and last a week. But most of the time. Day or two max.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've read that PIP can have a lot to do with how much alcohol was used when it was brewed. Some guys say to stick a needle in the vial without the barrel, and put it in the oven at about 200-250 degrees and that will evaporate some of the alcohol. Can anyone weigh-in on if that's bullshit or not?
 
Massage and hot bath on it... Week 1 test c , i coule barely walk for the whole week ... Week 2 I was sore as hell but was better and now week 4 i dont even feel like if I injected ..
I told my gf , did you really did it or what ... No soreness , nothing this morning either !!! Just use it alot , dont just cry your day off and walk like a retard haha just try to use it normally !
 
I know I'll be fine sooner or later, but I'm trying to find a way to make sooner come.. Sooner! I'm a powerlifter I need to squat!! Haha
 
BigScuds said:
I know I'll be fine sooner or later, but I'm trying to find a way to make sooner come.. Sooner! I'm a powerlifter I need to squat!! Haha
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There's something wrong here. I pin one of my colleagues in the butt twice weekly. He's on Deca, primo and Testosterone. I bung anything from 1.5 to 2 ml into his glutes. I've been doing this now for 4 months. He's also a Power Lifter. He has NEVER had any PIP at all, BUT . . .

I was away one week, so he got his brother to do the injection. He had a lump the size of a duck egg on his arse and he could barely walk or sit. The lump and the pain was there for three weeks. I have NO idea what his brother did, but I think that he didn't swab the area, didn't go deep enough into the muscle and/or, didn't massage the spot properly post injection. You need to disperse the shit into the muscle, so you rub it HARD until there is no trace of a lump under your fingers.

It might also be that the syringe, the stuff you injected or the needle are also contaminated. I would be very suspicious of the stuff I was injecting if it was injected properly. I get pinned 3 x weekly intra muscular and every day SubQ never had any pain or PIP in almost a year.
 
Have you inquired with hammer about it?

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How about staying away from gear that constantly causes that much PIP? Like I said ive read at atleast 4-6 boards about how bad it is with this source. Seems like it never changes.
 
BigScuds said:
I injected Hammer's test C last night and woke up this morning with some decent PIP that has gotten worse throughout the day. I've never gotten PIP from anything else so this is a new experience for me.
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There is no general rule but it is usually 1-2 days. It depends on the muscle injected in to, what compound you injected, how much you injected etc etc.

Gentle massage/rub the muscle in the sore area for 5-10 minutes. It'll help disperse the oil and elevate the PIP. A heating blanket on the sore area also works great to help disperse the oil.

When doing shots, heat up the oil before injecting it. It'll make the injection go quicker and reduce PIP. I run the vial under hot water from my tap for about a minute before doing injections. After your injection, massage the injection site for 1-2 minutes to help disperse the oil into the muscle.
 
muskate said:
There is no general rule but it is usually 1-2 days. It depends on the muscle injected in to, what compound you injected, how much you injected etc etc.

Gentle massage/rub the muscle in the sore area for 5-10 minutes. It'll help disperse the oil and elevate the PIP. A heating blanket on the sore area also works great to help disperse the oil.

When doing shots, heat up the oil before injecting it. It'll make the injection go quicker and reduce PIP. I run the vial under hot water from my tap for about a minute before doing injections. After your injection, massage the injection site for 1-2 minutes to help disperse the oil into the muscle.
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Thanks for the input bro. I've massaged the area and used a heating pad. My wife does deep tissue massage so I had her work on me for a while. No help. It's a little easier to walk this evening, but nothing's ever lasted this long.
 
BigScuds said:
Thanks for the input bro. I've massaged the area and used a heating pad. My wife does deep tissue massage so I had her work on me for a while. No help. It's a little easier to walk this evening, but nothing's ever lasted this long.
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Get some new gear asap would be my suggestion.
 
Two days after my first time pinning quads I looked like an IDIOT walking because I refused to bend my knees much because of how sore they were

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HTGduck said:
Two days after my first time pinning quads I looked like an IDIOT walking because I refused to bend my knees much because of how sore they were

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See that's the problem though. This is nowhere near my first time pinning my quads. So it's not virgin tissues
 
BigScuds said:
See that's the problem though. This is nowhere near my first time pinning my quads. So it's not virgin tissues
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Right. How long has it been since you previously have injected quads?



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NY REBEL said:
Lol. Ain't no thang. Coming off, I thought I would crash, and be sick and shit.. Fuck no. I felt amazing. I forgot what it felt like to be normal.. Calm.. Sleeping... Happy...
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I've been there too. Sweaty sleepless nights and all the crazy thoughts going through your mind. Lol, but do I love tren
 
Day 4 and not much better. It's a little easier to walk today though. Tonight was when I was planning on pinning again. Should I give it a try, or quickly find some different gear?
 
BigScuds said:
Day 4 and not much better. It's a little easier to walk today though. Tonight was when I was planning on pinning again. Should I give it a try, or quickly find some different gear?
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Get different gear. Cuz Im afraid its just going to continue to happen.
 
BigScuds said:
Day 4 and not much better. It's a little easier to walk today though. Tonight was when I was planning on pinning again. Should I give it a try, or quickly find some different gear?
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Get some robo man.
 
I'm using PSL's Test 400. Ir's 200 mg/ml Test Cyp with 200 mg/ml Test Enan. 400 mg/ml. You can inject less to get the same T level. It's DEFINITELY legit and ZERO pain or PIP.

Saving Money and getting pain isn't worth it. Put the Hammer vial into a concrete block, row it half a mile out to sea and dump it overboard. Chances are it won't pop up again one day and you pin it again by mistake
 
BigScuds said:
Agreed. But there's no way the wife will go for a $400 minimum order after having just spend $200 on something I'm probably going to burn. Need to find a lower minimum but with legit gear.
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Why not try Xeno or Vulcan? They both seem to have good painless gear. And Ive tried Xeno's Cyp. IT was good. Low min. And Im not endorsing either just trying to help ya out man
 
suraonyx23 said:
Why not try Xeno or Vulcan? They both seem to have good painless gear. And Ive tried Xeno's Cyp. IT was good. Low min. And Im not endorsing either just trying to help ya out man
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I've been reading up on them so I might check them out. And I got your PM, appreciate the help bro!
 
BigScuds said:
I've been reading up on them so I might check them out. And I got your PM, appreciate the help bro!
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I'm say Vulcan tren was really good.
 
muskate said:
There is no general rule but it is usually 1-2 days. It depends on the muscle injected in to, what compound you injected, how much you injected etc etc.

Gentle massage/rub the muscle in the sore area for 5-10 minutes. It'll help disperse the oil and elevate the PIP. A heating blanket on the sore area also works great to help disperse the oil.

When doing shots, heat up the oil before injecting it. It'll make the injection go quicker and reduce PIP. I run the vial under hot water from my tap for about a minute before doing injections. After your injection, massage the injection site for 1-2 minutes to help disperse the oil into the muscle.
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This is the best way to avoid a PIP.
I use a 23g 1.5 inch needle or 22g 1.5 inch.
 
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