I need some cycle and stack advice! Help

[Mateo123]

Well....I checked back and the Ethanate is NOW in stock with Domestic-supply.com I went to see an Endocrinologist. I was hoping to talk the doc into a scrip so I could get FREE GOOD QUALITY gear paid for by my insurance. The more I research and think about it thou it was probably not the best idea being I would be wanting to take much more than a 100mg dose a week or what not and when the time came for him to check my blood work he would be like..."DUDE! Your abusing your meds"... and that would be the end of that. So..what I am trying to say is I want to start on a healthy stack. My stats and goals...6'2...205....and around 10% BF. I want to gain some HONEST muscle and am willing to gain a little body fat but don't want to be all bloated out. The last cycle I ran was sustonon 250 pharm grade from mexico. DAMN! I got huge but it was not a good huge I had a lot of water retention. Could you guys recommend a good simple muscle building stack along with a good AI. I know I want to run some test of some kind, sustunon, cip, or eth but what would you recommend to run with that? Also...if I do say a 12 week cycle on a Test prod. and whatever else stack to gain muscle... and than jump right into a cutting cycle (like summer time say on Winny or Var) we are talking like a 6 month run or so. Would you say that would kick my bodies ass? In other words" I want to bulk up for 3 months and than cut up for 3 months. back to back.


What would you guys recommend for these two stacks?

Thanks guys....Mateeeeeooooo

 

[wolfpackalpha]

The real difference between bulking and cutting is going to be your diet, unless you're comparing anadrol vs. anavar. The rest is going to be diet based and training/cardio based.

*3 months bulk*

Week 1-6:
Dianabol 30mgs/day
Testosterone cypionate 250mgs/week
S-4 (Andarine) 50mgs/day (start at 25mgs and add 10mgs every 3-4 days)
aromasin 25mgs/day
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM

Week 7-12:
Testosterone cypionate 500mgs/week
S-4 (Andarine) 50mgs/day (start at 25mgs and add 10mgs every 3-4 days)
aromasin 25mgs/day
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM

*3 Months Cut*

Week 1-6:
Oxandrovar 2 caps/day (1 am/1 preworkout)
Testosterone cypionate 250mgs/week
Cardarine (GW-501516) 20mgs/day
aromasin 25mgs/day
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM

Week 7-12:
Testosterone cypionate 500mgs/week
Cardarine (GW-501516) 20mgs/day
aromasin 25mgs/day
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM

PCT: read this
http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

 

[Mateo123]

Wow! Thanks Wolfpack. Way to lay it for me. Thanks I appreciate it. Hey I have a couple questions:

1) S-4 (Andarine), Oxandrovar, Cardarine (GW-501516) are those prohormones? I have seen those names come up before but i am not educated on them. I believe you can get them through Sarms is that right?

2) I am planning on getting my gear from Domestic supply.com. I know they have Test Cip but do they have Dianobol? Would it be called that at domestic supply or would it be called something different? If you cant get it at DS do you know of a source?

3) Finally, I have not looked for Aromasin yet? Do yo know of a source for this?

I really appreciate your help

Mateooooo

 

[dylangemelli]

Wow! Thanks Wolfpack. Way to lay it for me. Thanks I appreciate it. Hey I have a couple questions:

1) S-4 (Andarine), Oxandrovar, Cardarine (GW-501516) are those prohormones? I have seen those names come up before but i am not educated on them. I believe you can get them through Sarms is that right?

2) I am planning on getting my gear from Domestic supply.com. I know they have Test Cip but do they have Dianobol? Would it be called that at domestic supply or would it be called something different? If you cant get it at DS do you know of a source?

3) Finally, I have not looked for Aromasin yet? Do yo know of a source for this?

I really appreciate your help

Mateooooo

myself and wolfpack work together so i will go ahead an answer thewee questions for you...

1. s4 and gw CARDARINE are SARMS... www.sarms1.com is where to get them... if you need info on sarms, read my articles at www.evolutionary.org/sarms... they are going to fully enhance your cycle to the maximum... you are going to benefit SO MUCH by adding them to this...

Oxandrovar is a new prohormone from GK prohormones and is sold at www.n2bm.com... we have done SEVERAL writeups and there are logs out there on it as well... It is extremely effective... Here is the link to one of the main articles written on it... http://www.evolutionary.org/oxandrovar/

2. http://www.domestic-supply.com/viewproduct.php?id=116 that's the link to pharmacom dbol at domestic supply... email and ask about blue hearts... see if they are in stock...

3. for your aromasin go to www.ag-guys.com

that should cover it bro... any other questions let me know...

 

[Mateo123]

Thanks Dylan...I think I am ready to go. Hey...I checked out the ag-guys.com site for Aromasin. I looked under AI's but saw only products like "LiquiAroma" or "Liquidex" are eiether of these the Aromasin equivalent that i am looking for? Also these products seem to be LIQUID and not a pill. Is the liquid for just as good? Also unlike Domestic Supply, this company seems to be non domestic. THe risk with domestic supply seems small. Do yo think this company is 'low risk"....getting caught?

 

[wolfpackalpha]

Thanks Dylan...I think I am ready to go. Hey...I checked out the ag-guys.com site for Aromasin. I looked under AI's but saw only products like "LiquiAroma" or "Liquidex" are eiether of these the Aromasin equivalent that i am looking for? Also these products seem to be LIQUID and not a pill. Is the liquid for just as good?

The liquids are exactly the same as tabs, they are just in liquid form.

 

[Mateo123]

Thanks....BTW wolfpack. i appreciate your advice on what to take and get. I am all set to go. Just so i am not missing something, is that common to pay that much for Aromosin for a 3 month cycle? You recommened 25mg ED. That comes out to around 500 for the 3 month run. If that is what it cost ok, but i am just surprised it Aromosin costs more than all of my anabolics combined?

 

[jbranken]

On the three month cut, I see no need to use 25mg of aromasin ED. It makes sense with test and dbol during the bulkig phase but you could definitely lower it to 12.5mg ED or EOD during the cut phase. The only aromatizing compounds during the cut phase is the test.

Other than that, oxandrovar has been producing amazing results for people, especially when stacked with sarms. You'll transform your entire body with this cycle.

Remember to use sarms1 because not only are the products superior, but they have a buy two get one free deal going on still

 

[gymrat827]

Thanks....BTW wolfpack. i appreciate your advice on what to take and get. I am all set to go. Just so i am not missing something, is that common to pay that much for Aromosin for a 3 month cycle? You recommened 25mg ED. That comes out to around 500 for the 3 month run. If that is what it cost ok, but i am just surprised it Aromosin costs more than all of my anabolics combined?

real AI's are $$$.......Next, you dont need 25mg ED....more like E3D. or 12.5mg EOD.

 

[Mateo123]

Thanks for all your comments. I really appreciate your help. OK! I think I have my bulking cycle. I have a couple last minute questions:

1) I have checked with domestic-supply on the "purple-hearts" (Dianabol) They are $250 for 500 pills. I inquired about the brand "Dianabolos" which are only $30 for 100 pills but they are out. All I need is a 100 or so pills to "kick start" my cycle. This is my question: With DBOL being so expensive with one brand and sold out with another I think I am going to pass on it. Do you think my results are going to be that less dramatic? I would appreciate any thoughts.

2) What do you think about Sten labs.com. Rumor has it that their Aromasin is every bit as good as ag-guys and I can get it for half the price?

3) If I dont run DBOL....I am not going to need as much Aromasin am I? You gave me some advice at 12.5 EOD.


Week 1-4:
Dianabol 30mgs/day
Testosterone cypionate 250mgs/week
S-4 (Andarine) 50mgs/day (start at 25mgs and add 10mgs every 3-4 days)
aromasin 25mgs/day
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM

Week 7-12:
Testosterone cypionate 500mgs/week
S-4 (Andarine) 50mgs/day (start at 25mgs and add 10mgs every 3-4 days)
aromasin 25mgs/day
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM