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Hey guys I'm new on the site and join for no other reason than to go hard in the gym. I have gotten out the military and my physique is not what it use to be. I don't want to get huge, I want to get ripped up. I tried var b4 and loved it except for the aching joints but I would do it again if I had a reliable source. I was using someone out of China but they didn't last long. Any suggestions.

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brother welcome to the evo family....if you only have var under your belt, maybe hit a sarms triple stack before heading into steroids...you'll build up a better base with sarms and will get more results out of future cycles...
 
BigZo said:
Hey guys I'm new on the site and join for no other reason than to go hard in the gym. I have gotten out the military and my physique is not what it use to be. I don't want to get huge, I want to get ripped up. I tried var b4 and loved it except for the aching joints but I would do it again if I had a reliable source. I was using someone out of China but they didn't last long. Any suggestions.

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Welcome to Evo !
Hate to Break it to you, if you had Aching Joints.
You had Winny and not Anavar....................................... JP
P.S.
I've got many Cycles of Var under my Belt.
It doesn't ever Effect your Joints.
It does give some Bad Muscle Cramps or Pumps, that is dose dependent.
 
I was gonna say bro anavar doesn't cause aching joints that's winny .. try proviron bro that's my favorite I don't like bulking either
 
That's why this site is so important. I need to be lead into the right direction. Since you say I had whinny which of the two work the best?

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var seems to used a lottt more then winny. from what i have gathered is winny only provides temporary dryness/hardness to physiques pre contest, while also keeping strength up on a cut, seems like thats what its mostly used for, but like al AAs diet plays the largest role. anavar, is just great. it's safer with a lot less sides, and it works. but its also very expensive.
 
I'm hearing SARMS, is that something you can get at vitamin shoppe or is it obtained somewhere else? I ask bcuz I don't want to get bit again. What I was on was suppose to be var. I thought I done my research with BD markings, hologram an all but from what I'm hearing I still got bit.

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I'd rather look to var to lean up if possible. Or some good stacks with it. I'm a virgin to the needle though. Lol

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BigZo said:
I'm hearing SARMS, is that something you can get at vitamin shoppe or is it obtained somewhere else? I ask bcuz I don't want to get bit again. What I was on was suppose to be var. I thought I done my research with BD markings, hologram an all but from what I'm hearing I still got bit.

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from what I understand bro sarms that are oral are fake. this site like to promote sarms a lot . in my opinion bro if you want var try var get it out your system already
 
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I'm hearing SARMS, is that something you can get at vitamin shoppe or is it obtained somewhere else? I ask bcuz I don't want to get bit again. What I was on was suppose to be var. I thought I done my research with BD markings, hologram an all but from what I'm hearing I still got bit.

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In my recent experience, getting bit can happen to anybody. The best due diligence in the world, might still lead to subpar gear. Sarms1 does have a good reputation. It's hard to otherwise filter through the noise.
 
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Can someone point me in the right direction?

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Sarms from sarms1 is not a bad option. Your best bet though, is to read voraciously for a couple months. And you have to gather information from a dozen different sources to get the full picture unfortunately. Nobody is able to cover everything, and nearly all of these compounds have subtle complications that will be impossible to predict individually. E.G. blood clotting from RBC, test flu, roid rage, liver function, general results. You'll also find a plethora of conflicting information- it can be very frustrating. And finally, your results will might reflect those most commonly represented, or might totally individualistic and terrible. You never know how it affects YOU until YOU try it. That's the gamble we get to decide on. But again, read a million articles about a compound before you decide to try it, and even then you'll probably never have the whole picture.

Def visit multiple forums, you'll start to see some patterns.
 
Wow. Sounds like **** and roulette. I've been reading a bunch of forums and like you said there's a lot what seems like valuable info whether it works for me or not. Also I've noticed that what sounds like the good underground sources to the gear are hidden. I kinda understand why. Then there are the concerns with reputable sources v/s the right gear and then prices. Blown away!

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BigZo said:
Wow. Sounds like **** and roulette. I've been reading a bunch of forums and like you said there's a lot what seems like valuable info whether it works for me or not. Also I've noticed that what sounds like the good underground sources to the gear are hidden. I kinda understand why. Then there are the concerns with reputable sources v/s the right gear and then prices. Blown away!

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It's maybe not exactly as dramatic as russian roulette, but yes, there are definitely hidden risks that won't become apparent until you're in the eye of the storm. There is definitely a gambling element to this activity.

There is a very popular steroid review site on the web. I recommend googling that, and also reading a good deal there. It's a crazy world out there dude- this is black market stuff, the wild west, the prohibition: anything goes.
 
i would run it was some test man, if you're adamant about it. but about gaining or losing weight, thats going to be dependent on your diet dude.
 
Sounds like a plan. I've heard that and read that. Where to get the gear though? One guy gave me a source on here any objections b4 I make a purchase?

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if it was from a PM, I'd be very careful. just spend some time
reading the board and reviews. All the info you need right here.

welcome to evo
 
jp4355 said:
Welcome to Evo !
Hate to Break it to you, if you had Aching Joints.
You had Winny and not Anavar....................................... JP
P.S.
I've got many Cycles of Var under my Belt.
It doesn't ever Effect your Joints.
It does give some Bad Muscle Cramps or Pumps, that is dose dependent.
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I learned this lesson.....I love Var, and most likely people will love Winny and not question their "var"

But cramps and pumps on var can be a bitch, but the joint issue is %100 Winny
 
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I'm hearing SARMS, is that something you can get at vitamin shoppe or is it obtained somewhere else? I ask bcuz I don't want to get bit again. What I was on was suppose to be var. I thought I done my research with BD markings, hologram an all but from what I'm hearing I still got bit.

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Read up on the SARMS triple stack here: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocol

After the triple stack, run a mini PCT. 4 weeks of the following:
clomid at 25mg/day
nolvadex at 20mg/day
HCGenerate ES at 5 capsules/day
n2guard at 3 capsules/day

SARMS are minimally suppressive, there is no risk of amortization (therefore no estrogen related side effects) and legal to use. You can get everything you need off sarms1.com, n2bm.com and ag-guys.com

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Sounds like a plan. I've heard that and read that. Where to get the gear though? One guy gave me a source on here any objections b4 I make a purchase?

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Check the source review section on the board. Be very careful with members who PM you directly about products. They could be scammers.
 
BigZo said:
I'm hearing SARMS, is that something you can get at vitamin shoppe or is it obtained somewhere else? I ask bcuz I don't want to get bit again. What I was on was suppose to be var. I thought I done my research with BD markings, hologram an all but from what I'm hearing I still got bit.

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Get it from sarms1, and you will be 150% sure that you are getting the real thing. SARMs will indeed be the best option for you right now, since it is best to start gradually, so you can take the most of every compound.
 
Are all of the sarms products in liquid form and taking by mouth?

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I appreciate it, bcuz my next question would have been about the manu; since they have so many. Thanks bro

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Can someone give me a decent source? PM or something. I look at other forums about sources and most still don't give you a direct link. I would like one that doesn't take a month to deliver.

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BigZo said:
Can someone give me a decent source? PM or something. I look at other forums about sources and most still don't give you a direct link. I would like one that doesn't take a month to deliver.

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bro please go to source talk for this...and asking for sources in open is a good way to get scammed
 
Ok appreciate the advice. I'm just not that familiar with the site and tapatalk an all.

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BigZo said:
I'm hearing SARMS, is that something you can get at vitamin shoppe or is it obtained somewhere else? I ask bcuz I don't want to get bit again. What I was on was suppose to be var. I thought I done my research with BD markings, hologram an all but from what I'm hearing I still got bit.

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Sarms 1 brother, check them out, Cardarine is the god of sarms when it comes to helping with fat loss, love the endurance it gives too. Check them out.
 
BigZo said:
Hey guys I'm new on the site and join for no other reason than to go hard in the gym. I have gotten out the military and my physique is not what it use to be. I don't want to get huge, I want to get ripped up. I tried var b4 and loved it except for the aching joints but I would do it again if I had a reliable source. I was using someone out of China but they didn't last long. Any suggestions.

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If you want the lean athletic look but not size stay natural but you shouldnt have too rely on gear get the results you can on your own first at least the first year then decide after lots of research honestly i dont think anyone should need too ask questions i think we should do enough research too understand the whole thing before taking that leap . this is the right site for that tons of articles and ive read most already having knowladge of those compounds and found the info on here too be more acurate than most other sites
 
It's hard to eat clean when the food I'm eating is not at least making feel full and also I'm feeling light headed after working out. Years ago hydroxy with aphedrine use to help curve my appetite without losing energy.

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