MOTsC & SS-31 Structure

[Boofy]

Legends,

I've been digging and digging on these for the last few months and everything I read and or listen to contradicts the other.
I've seen every variable for them both so really looking for some clarity on whether.

-Front load SS-31 then follow up with MOTsC.
-MOTsC first then SS-31
-Combine the two at once

SS-31 seems to be 1-2mg daily.
MOTsC seems 2.5-5mg EOD
Cycle length varies 6-12 weeks

I know there are many ways to get to the same place but looking for some wisdom around this and dosing/ cycle.
Healthy 41yo - been training for 20 years so my base is good. 15% BF.
Not looking for an energy boost for training; more for general longevity and overall Mito health/ repair/ improved signaling etc.

Cheers crew,
Boof

 

[LevButlerov]

Legends,

I've been digging and digging on these for the last few months and everything I read and or listen to contradicts the other.
I've seen every variable for them both so really looking for some clarity on whether.

-Front load SS-31 then follow up with MOTsC.
-MOTsC first then SS-31
-Combine the two at once

SS-31 seems to be 1-2mg daily.
MOTsC seems 2.5-5mg EOD
Cycle length varies 6-12 weeks

I know there are many ways to get to the same place but looking for some wisdom around this and dosing/ cycle.
Healthy 41yo - been training for 20 years so my base is good. 15% BF.
Not looking for an energy boost for training; more for general longevity and overall Mito health/ repair/ improved signaling etc.

Cheers crew,
Boof

first question, why do you want to use mots-c and ss31? and what cycle are you on now besides it? @Boofy and do you have a log ready to post? otherwise we are just guess talking here.

If you want a generic answer without knowing much about you day to day, i would run Mots-c first for 4 weeks at 2.5-5 mg EOD to stimulate mitochondrial biogenesis, then add SS31 at 1-2mgs ed for repair once signaling is up.
running both together from day one usually overlaps effects without added benefit.

 

[Mobster]

Lev has you covered.

Given they replicate effects which already happen in the body think about how that works and duplicate it

 

[stevesmi]

Legends,

I've been digging and digging on these for the last few months and everything I read and or listen to contradicts the other.
I've seen every variable for them both so really looking for some clarity on whether.

-Front load SS-31 then follow up with MOTsC.
-MOTsC first then SS-31
-Combine the two at once

SS-31 seems to be 1-2mg daily.
MOTsC seems 2.5-5mg EOD
Cycle length varies 6-12 weeks

I know there are many ways to get to the same place but looking for some wisdom around this and dosing/ cycle.
Healthy 41yo - been training for 20 years so my base is good. 15% BF.
Not looking for an energy boost for training; more for general longevity and overall Mito health/ repair/ improved signaling etc.

Cheers crew,
Boof

there is going to be different answers because these things are very new and there is no straight guide from a pharmaceutical company to show you how to use them. So you have to experiment to see.

One of the things I noticed with my girlfriend is if she takes it before bed, she has a hard time sleeping. So that's something that people need to realize.

 

[ceo]

Legends,

I've been digging and digging on these for the last few months and everything I read and or listen to contradicts the other.
I've seen every variable for them both so really looking for some clarity on whether.

-Front load SS-31 then follow up with MOTsC.
-MOTsC first then SS-31
-Combine the two at once

SS-31 seems to be 1-2mg daily.
MOTsC seems 2.5-5mg EOD
Cycle length varies 6-12 weeks

I know there are many ways to get to the same place but looking for some wisdom around this and dosing/ cycle.
Healthy 41yo - been training for 20 years so my base is good. 15% BF.
Not looking for an energy boost for training; more for general longevity and overall Mito health/ repair/ improved signaling etc.

Cheers crew,
Boof

Bros, I seen people run a lot less and get some pretty good results. You should start low and work your way up.

 

[Ulter]

Legends,

I've been digging and digging on these for the last few months and everything I read and or listen to contradicts the other.
I've seen every variable for them both so really looking for some clarity on whether.

-Front load SS-31 then follow up with MOTsC.
-MOTsC first then SS-31
-Combine the two at once

SS-31 seems to be 1-2mg daily.
MOTsC seems 2.5-5mg EOD
Cycle length varies 6-12 weeks

I know there are many ways to get to the same place but looking for some wisdom around this and dosing/ cycle.
Healthy 41yo - been training for 20 years so my base is good. 15% BF.
Not looking for an energy boost for training; more for general longevity and overall Mito health/ repair/ improved signaling etc.

Cheers crew,
Boof

my recommendation is to get a log going. Everybody's going to react a little differently when it comes to these peptides. I've heard all kinds of different stories.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Legends,

I've been digging and digging on these for the last few months and everything I read and or listen to contradicts the other.
I've seen every variable for them both so really looking for some clarity on whether.

-Front load SS-31 then follow up with MOTsC.
-MOTsC first then SS-31
-Combine the two at once

SS-31 seems to be 1-2mg daily.
MOTsC seems 2.5-5mg EOD
Cycle length varies 6-12 weeks

I know there are many ways to get to the same place but looking for some wisdom around this and dosing/ cycle.
Healthy 41yo - been training for 20 years so my base is good. 15% BF.
Not looking for an energy boost for training; more for general longevity and overall Mito health/ repair/ improved signaling etc.

Cheers crew,
Boof

@Boofy I think the plan is pretty sound looking really good on this. Also keep in mind that a healthy 41-year-old that's been training for 20 years is going to have a good base more often than not.

 

[2Thick]

Legends,

I've been digging and digging on these for the last few months and everything I read and or listen to contradicts the other.
I've seen every variable for them both so really looking for some clarity on whether.

-Front load SS-31 then follow up with MOTsC.
-MOTsC first then SS-31
-Combine the two at once

SS-31 seems to be 1-2mg daily.
MOTsC seems 2.5-5mg EOD
Cycle length varies 6-12 weeks

I know there are many ways to get to the same place but looking for some wisdom around this and dosing/ cycle.
Healthy 41yo - been training for 20 years so my base is good. 15% BF.
Not looking for an energy boost for training; more for general longevity and overall Mito health/ repair/ improved signaling etc.

Cheers crew,
Boof

i think its a great option. i've read a lot of options on the motsc and ss-31 will yield some good results

 

[Boofy]

@2Thick @ROIDDERS @Ulter @ceo @stevesmi @Mobster @LevButlerov

Thanks lads for the reply and jumping in.

It’s a tricky world, greatest thing about the net is access to information, worst thing about the net- dilution and volume of said information.

 

[LevButlerov]

@2Thick @ROIDDERS @Ulter @ceo @stevesmi @Mobster @LevButlerov

Thanks lads for the reply and jumping in.

It’s a tricky world, greatest thing about the net is access to information, worst thing about the net- dilution and volume of said information.

Please see my answer @Boofy
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/motsc-ss-31-structure.108642/post-1942325

first question, why do you want to use mots-c and ss31? and what cycle are you on now besides it? @Boofy and do you have a log ready to post? otherwise we are just guess talking here.

If you want a generic answer without knowing much about you day to day, i would run Mots-c first for 4 weeks at 2.5-5 mg EOD to stimulate mitochondrial biogenesis, then add SS31 at 1-2mgs ed for repair once signaling is up.
running both together from day one usually overlaps effects without added benefit.

 

[ceo]

@2Thick @ROIDDERS @Ulter @ceo @stevesmi @Mobster @LevButlerov

Thanks lads for the reply and jumping in.

It’s a tricky world, greatest thing about the net is access to information, worst thing about the net- dilution and volume of said information.

Bros, I 100% agree. That's a good thing about this forum though. Cut the bullshit.

 

[Ulter]

@2Thick @ROIDDERS @Ulter @ceo @stevesmi @Mobster @LevButlerov

Thanks lads for the reply and jumping in.

It’s a tricky world, greatest thing about the net is access to information, worst thing about the net- dilution and volume of said information.

I definitely agree with this. Sometimes there's too much information out there.

 

[2Thick]

@2Thick @ROIDDERS @Ulter @ceo @stevesmi @Mobster @LevButlerov

Thanks lads for the reply and jumping in.

It’s a tricky world, greatest thing about the net is access to information, worst thing about the net- dilution and volume of said information.

You are in the right place here. We give great information to our Evo family.

 

[ROIDDERS]

@2Thick @ROIDDERS @Ulter @ceo @stevesmi @Mobster @LevButlerov

Thanks lads for the reply and jumping in.

It’s a tricky world, greatest thing about the net is access to information, worst thing about the net- dilution and volume of said information.

Definitely a great point on this. You always want to have your ducks in a row. Never listen to the clowns on social media either.