'Natural' Bodybuilders

[Johnny_Rogue]

Hi guys,

4x natural Mr. Universe Mike O hearn claims to be all natural, so do guys like Kali Muscle, Chris Jones Ulysses and CT fletcher ( youtube fitness gurus) , yet one look at their physiques raises eyebrows as to how natural they really are. my question is simple. Is it possible to be natural and put on that much muscle, with that density and quality within such a short period of time?

This is an age old question and I was reminded when I watched this video where Mike hearn gets called out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=142&v=2XbDh8l-Rlk

 

[Emer]

can't argue with him. it is kind of innocent to think o hearn is natural

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[bonacris]

Honestly no it isn't possible.

It would ruin their reputation if they were ever associated with gear but they hide it well

 

[Ahmad90]

Maybe O'Hearn was natural when he was younger. He definitely looks like he aint natural now. Chris Jones seems like an honest guy when it comes to bodybuilding, i mean the dudes probably been lifting for over 15 years, i dont see what part of him looks unattainable, he trains correctly and eats a lot. Ulysses, hahahaha. Like what Chris Jones said before, no one at Musclemania is natty. CT fletcher...no idea, most likely not.


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[Midnight]

All "Natural" means, is that the competitor didn't test positive for any of the substances they were being tested for, at the time of being tested. That does leave some flexibility the whole rest of the year.

 

[Ahmad90]

Easiest way to tell if someones natural isnt based on how big a person is but is based on their conditioning with mass. If someones huge and they are ripped and keep getting bigger and stronger then they are most likely on the juice. You would be surprised how big someone can get before roids. As long as you cause micro tears in the muscle when you train and eat a caloric surplus then that muscle will keep getting bigger. Ronnie coleman has got to be one of the biggest naturals i ever seen pre 1991. Heres a pic of him when he claimed natural in 1990.

He was well over 230lbs in this pic but he wasnt ripped or shredded to the bone. As long as you keep your bodyfat above 10-12% you can gain muscle pretty quick. He powerlifted since age 13 and was probably in his late 20s here. You would be surprised how much potential the average joe has, its just that everyone juices after 3-5 years and doesnt even give natty lifting a chance. And its hilarious because all these retards claiming natural on youtube when they are more ripped with almost more mass then a guy who trained his ass off and went on to win the olympia 8 times!!


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[KC1985]

It's possible - like 1 in a billion genetic lottery winner that trains and eats nearly perfect... Statistically - not possible to have that many huge/shredded 'natural' bodybuilders...

 

[muskate]

It's impossible to know for sure. I personally don't doubt that the majority of these guys are actually natural and just meticulous with their diet and training, along with being genetic freaks.

I will say this: the fastest way to get no where with your own physique goals is to overly concern yourself with what other people are doing and to set limitations as to what is and isn't possible with/without gear.

Whether they are truly natural or not - who cares. Focus on being the best you that you can be.

 

[Dudley Dawson]

^^^ Words to live by

 

[Donk]

It's impossible to know for sure. I personally don't doubt that the majority of these guys are actually natural and just meticulous with their diet and training, along with being genetic freaks.

I will say this: the fastest way to get no where with your own physique goals is to overly concern yourself with what other people are doing and to set limitations as to what is and isn't possible with/without gear.

Whether they are truly natural or not - who cares. Focus on being the best you that you can be.

Thanks for that right there, I like it!

 

[stevesmi]

all of those guys are on steroids. and also guys that don't look like they lift sadly are on steroids too. 90% of your gym has used steroids at some point. even the guys who can't even bench 2 plates ... they are so easy to aquire these days because of the internet that I have little doubt

there are several reasons why they deny

1. legal reasons of course
2. they want you to think they got like that from their supplement line LOL
3. social media trolling works, saying you are natural and lying brings haters which spikes your traffic .. every youtube fitness guy wants drama and views to get more popular .. look at Donald trump for example.. saying dumb shit that we know is wrong just to get attention and it works!

 

[LevButlerov]

You will never be able to tell for sure if someone is naturall or not, only they themselves know that, and even their close ones may not know about them using gear. Therefore, it is best to focus on yourself, and try to do the best you can without looking at the others.

 

[MaxxPursuit]

all of those guys are on steroids. and also guys that don't look like they lift sadly are on steroids too. 90% of your gym has used steroids at some point. even the guys who can't even bench 2 plates ... they are so easy to aquire these days because of the internet that I have little doubt

there are several reasons why they deny

1. legal reasons of course
2. they want you to think they got like that from their supplement line LOL
3. social media trolling works, saying you are natural and lying brings haters which spikes your traffic .. every youtube fitness guy wants drama and views to get more popular .. look at Donald trump for example.. saying dumb shit that we know is wrong just to get attention and it works!

^ Agreed man. And who can blame them? I look at it like this, wouldn't you do whatever you can to get a promotion and a pay raise in your regular day job? What's the difference for them if fitness or social media is their main source of income (especially when the "fitness standards" are set so high nowadays)? Of course it goes against morals to claim natural when your not but that's business and I'm sure that's all they're concerned with. I would never expect them to go around preaching that they're on something but at the same time, I'm glad they don't say they're on. A lot of young teens look up to many of these guys and if they all knew the truth, you'd have a bunch more young guys jumping on the gear irresponsibly screwing themselves.

 

[Ahmad90]

^ Agreed man. And who can blame them? I look at it like this, wouldn't you do whatever you can to get a promotion and a pay raise in your regular day job? What's the difference for them if fitness or social media is their main source of income (especially when the "fitness standards" are set so high nowadays)? Of course it goes against morals to claim natural when your not but that's business and I'm sure that's all they're concerned with. I would never expect them to go around preaching that they're on something but at the same time, I'm glad they don't say they're on. A lot of young teens look up to many of these guys and if they all knew the truth, you'd have a bunch more young guys jumping on the gear irresponsibly screwing themselves.

Lol everyone knows they are on roids...Even when i was young in my teen years and didnt know shit about bbing everytime i saw a buff ass dude on tv or somewhere i knew they were on roids lol. People always say it as a joke or are serious. I barely gained 20lbs my first year of lifting and ppl were making roid jokes. WE ALL KNOW WHAT STEROIDS ARE! Thanks to the media. Young people/noobs arent that dumb. Roids are what made that idiot bostin lloyd famous and rich. Go check how much he charges for advice...it's ridiculous but people actually go to him for advice because he admitted what he took and how much he took and now people think hes a roid genius. I understand that steroids are still a class 3 drug which is illegal, and thats why many just say no i dont take roids. But when they blatanly try to claim natty i want to f***ing clothesline them. They act like they are the shit. Thats why so many people hate all these "naturals." They make themselves sound all gifted and freaky and blessed when really they are on juice.


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[hurricane]

it really depends on genetics and the person.But 99% of the time they are on juice

 

[MikeSnow]

I'm as "natural"as layne norton, and so is NYRebel

 

[Coercion]

Mike O'tren. Super natural.

 

[ufukgamer1]

They are 100 percent on juice we all know that but the problem is some people on YouTube community take them to inspiration



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[Portfolio]

Hi guys,

4x natural Mr. Universe Mike O hearn claims to be all natural, so do guys like Kali Muscle, Chris Jones Ulysses and CT fletcher ( youtube fitness gurus) , yet one look at their physiques raises eyebrows as to how natural they really are. my question is simple. Is it possible to be natural and put on that much muscle, with that density and quality within such a short period of time?

This is an age old question and I was reminded when I watched this video where Mike hearn gets called out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=142&v=2XbDh8l-Rlk

Mike O'Hearn reminds me of Michael Sweet, his brother and the other members of Stryper. For several years the boys known collectively as Stryper claimed to be clean, sober Christians who just happened to love to write, record and perform heavy metal music. Then, after having been caught drinking and getting high one too many times, they said "To hell with it! Now we're hard drinking, hard drug-using Christians who love to write, record and perform heavy metal music."
Somehow I suspect that O'Hearn will eventually take a similar route. Though he is pushing 50. So I dunno.

 

[wags]

Natural? Aren't we all? What is this steroid stuff that is spoken about? I know nothing!
That's my story and I'm sticking to it

 

[12Rossja]

Bros i think mike o hearn is using creatine and protein powder for sure. we must expose him for his creatine use.