New to everything!

[zaphrus]

Hi all,

I'm new to the forum, and SARMs, but this seems like the place to be if you want to get knowledgeable about it all, so here I am.

After having read a few old posts and articles, I've decided on this for my first SARMs cycle as described in this article http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocol

1-8 osta 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.

1-8 s4 50 mg day… split doses… 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.

1-8 gw 10-20 mg day… split doses 12 hours apart

1-8 hcgenerate

For PCT, had a few problems since some of the recommended stuff is out of stock.

I had wanted to run hcgenerate ES + clomid + N2Guard but the hcgenerate ES and N2Guard is out of stock on n2bm.

First question, am I ok to run with just hcgenerate + clomid for PCT for weeks 9-12?

And planning ahead, I'd like to run another cycle after this one but swap out osta for lgd. How long should I wait after the PCT to start that cycle? And could I also add Nutrobal?

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

[muskate]

After the triple stack, run a mini PCT. 4 weeks of the following:
clomid at 25mg/day
nolvadex at 20mg/day
HCGenerate ES at 5 capsules/day
n2guard at 3 capsules/day

N2guard will be back in stock by November. 23. You can pre-order it here: http://needtobuildmuscle.com/store/N2-Guard-Tudca-Back-Order-p322.html
HCGenerate ES will be back in stock by December.20. You can pre-order it here: http://needtobuildmuscle.com/store/HC-Generate-ES-Back-Order-p323.html

Both products will be delivered long before you need to start your mini PCT.

After your mini PCT, take 4 weeks off and then you can start your next cycle.

1-8 s4 50 mg day… split doses… 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-8 gw 10-20 mg day… split doses 12 hours apart
1-8 nutrabol 20mg/day...split doses 12 hours apart
1-8 LGD 10mg/day...split doses 12 hours apart
1-8 hcgenerate

 

[LevButlerov]

This is a very good cycle you have planned there. However, I would recommend to start at just 25 mgs per day of S4 for the first two weeks. Then, after getting a feel of it, increase the dosage to 50 mgs per day. Other than that, there is nothing to add, but to wish good luck and progress on the cycle.

 

[jp4355]

Welcome to Evo !
You already got some Good Advise, so just Enjoy................................................. JP

 

[justjake]

listen to muskate

 

[zaphrus]

Thanks everyone for the great advice. Looking forward to seeing how I do with SARMs.

I got a more general question. Cardarine is touted for its fat loss potential, what is the best way to utilize the benefits of cardarine to achieve fat loss? i.e. is it cardio, circuit training, intense weights, a mixture? I ask as I've read various schools of thought on not needing cardio to lose weight as long as your weights workouts are intense enough, and I've had success using this approach, but being to SARMs, I want to ensure I'm incorporating the kind of activity that will make the best use of it.

 

[justjake]

I like doing HIIT cardio after an intense workout like legs, i know it may sound crazy but I like doing. You arent going to loose muscle while on SARMS so why not do some cardio.

 

[Nordic F]

welcome to evo man. good plan for a start. make sure to do the pct afterwards

 

[aggirl]

Looks like you are covered. Welcome to the board. ..

 

[Jas101]

Welcome to evo.

 

[zaphrus]

I like doing HIIT cardio after an intense workout like legs, i know it may sound crazy but I like doing. You arent going to loose muscle while on SARMS so why not do some cardio.

Makes sense given SARMs are anti-catabolic, thanks!

 

[MikeSnow]

Welcome to EVO, your cycle looks pretty solid. Best of luck to you !

 

[justjake]

keep us posted on how it goes! Hcgenerate is amazing. I know people hate on it on other forums but it really does work very well.

 

[zaphrus]

keep us posted on how it goes! Hcgenerate is amazing. I know people hate on it on other forums but it really does work very well.

will do. Just got my order through today and took the first dose - feel kinda tingly. Let's see how it translates into gym performance over the next couple of days.

I started another thread about the products I got though, just wanted to make sure I got stuff that was ok. My two bottles of GW are different colors - red vs clear, and my S4, one of them has crystals on the dropper, so right now I'm continuing on with the ones that look 'ok' which gives me a month to figure out what's going on with the other bottles, and get replacements if needed.

 

[justjake]

i just have a little water in my mouth and just squirt the liquid in that way. you get use to the taste of stop pretty fast

 

[zaphrus]

I'm actually ok with the taste ... it's not pleasant, but I've taken worse. Used to buy grape seed extract and a few other supps in powder form that tasted vile, but over time you get used to them.

I'm just a bit worried about the differences in the two bottles of the same product.

 

[zaphrus]

Yesterday was my first day of SARMs. The taste is distinctly bitter, but no worse than something like rhodolia rosea or grape seed extract. Felt a bit tingly when I first took it, and last night, my back felt particularly warm. I've had that sensation before when I took something like Tribulus.

This morning, I felt great! Lots of energy in the gym. Lifts were about the same, but it's only day 2, and I have also cut down on carbs to follow an evo diet, so perhaps that has something to do with it too. Endurance and stamina was awesome - wasn't breathing nearly as hard as I normally do after each set, and right after the weights, I did 25 minutes of cardio which I breezed through. Once I got off the treadmill, I was ready to go again, but had an appointment, so grudgingly left the gym.

 

[gearhead]

Yesterday was my first day of SARMs. The taste is distinctly bitter, but no worse than something like rhodolia rosea or grape seed extract. Felt a bit tingly when I first took it, and last night, my back felt particularly warm. I've had that sensation before when I took something like Tribulus.

This morning, I felt great! Lots of energy in the gym. Lifts were about the same, but it's only day 2, and I have also cut down on carbs to follow an evo diet, so perhaps that has something to do with it too. Endurance and stamina was awesome - wasn't breathing nearly as hard as I normally do after each set, and right after the weights, I did 25 minutes of cardio which I breezed through. Once I got off the treadmill, I was ready to go again, but had an appointment, so grudgingly left the gym.

bro looking good...you'll feel better and better with sarms...

 

[saliya]

welcome bro...