PCT Advice Needed

[jewberg]

so i just finished up my second real 12 wk cycle (750mg Test Cyp /wk, 250 iu HCG e3d, 12.5mg Aromisin eod, 1.25mg finasteride ed; switched to test propionate for the last 3 weeks to avoid having to wait on esters to clear)

all went well, had fantastic gains. Had standard acne and high bp at times, and definitely saw more testicular atrophy this time than last time. barely noticed last time, really paid attention this time and got much flatter and slightly less circumference, but though length pretty much stayed the same.

last cycle i did 600mg Test C for 14 wks and used aromasin eod and 500iu HCG/wk. then for PCT, i mostly followed the power pct protocol, but misunderstood some things. i took 1500iu HCG EOD for 20 days while waiting on cyp to clear, and then took 50mg clomid and 20 nolva ed for 3o days, then nolva 20mg for another 15. seemed to recover great last time, felt fine and productive all but maybe 5 days, no sexual issues, though the gym was definitely harder. During that HCG blast my nuts plumped up (felt like blueballs), and seemed to get back in gear pretty fast

So the plan this time was to start the HCG blast 2days after last test prop pin and start PCT 2 days later (running the HCG, clomid, and nolva concurrently for the beginning). 100mg clomid and 20mg nolva this time.

so i went on a trip and forgot my HCG, so i did not get to start the blast when planned, but started my PCT drugs as planned. I have been on Clomid and nolva for 7 days now and have not had any HCG since i was on cycle. i now have access to HCG and could start, but i didnt think it would make sense to time the blast at this point since i already started PCT drugs.. Please advise

I took HCG during cycle, so many people will probably say i dont need to take any for PCT at all, but i just remember the way my nuts plumped up from it last time, and since there was more atrophy this time i just want to do everything i can to increase my chances at a good recovery.

please let me know what you think would be my best course of action, if i should just continue on the nolva/clomid and forget the PCT HCG, or start it now, or anything better you might have in mind. I really appreciate it!

 

[DBalls]

IMO you only need to get fancy with HCG on long cycles, heavy cycles (DECA/TREN/DRoL) or high dose cycles.

IMO you don’t run HCG with your PCT, there’s many different beliefs on how to use HCG or if it’s even necessary BUT my belief is you run HCG in the dead period between the last shot and PCT. So for example Test E lasts two weeks long, last TEST E shot is week 10, run HCG every three days til week 12, last HCG shot then start PCT.

As for your question, you should be good with just sticking to your PCT, forgoing adding HCG and just run 4 week 100 Clomid/20 Nolva, then two week 50 Clomid/10 Nolva

 

[Mobster]

I've heard of the Power PCT protocol. Check out our Perfect PCT sticky too and see if it has the answers you want.

 

[Fella Finn]

...so i went on a trip and forgot my HCG, so i did not get to start the blast when planned, but started my PCT drugs as planned. I have been on Clomid and nolva for 7 days now and have not had any HCG since i was on cycle. i now have access to HCG and could start, but i didnt think it would make sense to time the blast at this point since i already started PCT drugs.. Please advise

Just run your normal PCT protocol.
I haven't used HCG myself but for what I've read you should do your HCG protocol before the actual PCT.
But at this point though, I don't really know if there even is any ONE CORRECT way to do it.

 

[stevesmi]

i would never touch finasteride in the first place

2nd hcg is not to be used in pct. 'it plumped my balls' is not an indication of recovery. the hcg is a hormone which mimics LH in the body, tricking your balls to function temporarily but also suppressing your pit glands. in the end you are actually DELAYING recovery

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Best thing to do is just follow the Perfect PCT. It is in the stickies.