revised lean bulk cycle

[abominable swoleman]

hey guys im planning a summer bulk cycle without any nandralones due to comming off after this and not wanting to be shut down as hard by the time i start this i should be around 235 at 6-7% bf. im just looking too put on minimal fat and gain around 10 ish lbs in 16 weeks. obv i know diet and sleep are most important and they are and will remain on point. also i give blood every time im elligiable.
1-16 test e 500
17 test e 250
1-16 eq 900

1-6 tbol 50 mg

2-10 test p 100 mg eod
asin 12.5 mg eod may up it too ed during prop blast

and my pct is another story as comming of a cruise i have a 8 weeks of hell trying to recover but it looks like this
1 hcg 1000 iu eod asin 12.5mg eod
2 hcg 500 iu eod asin 12.5 eod
3 nolva 40 clomed 50
4 nolva 40 clomed 25
5 nolva 20 clomed 25
6 nolva 20
7 nolva 10
also will run a cortisol blocker and gw at 20 mgs a day for 8 weeks

 

[Cador]

Id prob up the tbol to 80-100mg ed and do 6-8weeks. Start your test e and prop day 1 and I would only run the prop for the first 4 weeks by then the test e will be kicking in. The rest looks gtg.

 

[Cador]

You could always throw some Winny in to cut yourself up to run for the last 4 weeks or so.

 

[abominable swoleman]

You could always throw some Winny in to cut yourself up to run for the last 4 weeks or so.

thats alot of tbol lol and i shouldent need the winny bc the gains will be clean i wont need the recomp it the last couple weeks

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ive taken out the prop and am just gonna run 750 for both compounds just for the ease of not inj eod. im also gonna run tbol starting 2-8 i clear esters slow and my test doesent usually kick in till week 6 atleast

 

[muskate]

Your PCT is a nightmare man. I keep saying this over and over. You NEVER want to run HCG in a PCT protocol. It's suppressive of natural testosterone production. It will PREVENT your HPTA from recovering.

I highly recommend anyone wanting more information on the topic to listen to episode #74 of the evolutionary radio podcast -> https://www.evolutionary.org/episode-74/

Ask anyone why they include HCG in their cycle/PCT lay out and they will give you a bioscience answer. I have not once heard a proper scientific answer as to why HCG should be a part of a cycle or PCT lay out.

 

[Mobster]

Bulk... but stay lean... = confused.

 

[stevesmi]

dude with your stats you should be teaching us, not the other way around lol

i agree with musky though, your pct is awful. you don't want to get into the habit of doing poor pct's and then just hopping back on gear. you will end up with a crashed HPTA permanently

i swear i would rather guys just cruise instead of doing these awful pct's

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Test is a bit high for me. I like just the 500mg per week without adding in the prop. Tbol looks solid to me.

Again, I have to agree with Steve on the PCT. I know some guys feel good on HCG but that is really no different that just injecting test during PCT and feeling good. Both will prevent you from recovering.

 

[abominable swoleman]

thanks for the kind words guys but im tall 6'2 so the 235 isint as impressive but im flattered ive changed my pct mainly btw i use the hcg only too bring my nuts back to size because i atrophy. i do blast and cruise btw as long as you come off and dont go crazy its easier than restarting half recovering and crashing over and over again