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Trent Baloney

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This is my idea for my next cycle:

HGH 10iu ED throughout
T3 75mcg ED throughout

Insulin throughout post-workout 4-8iu with dextrose - dosage dependent on blood glucose reading

No workouts during catabolic phases

Wk minus 2

EPO 2000iu EOD

Wk minus 1

EPO 2000iu EOD

Fast thurs, fri, sat, sun to induce catabolic state then 5000+ calories a day throughout cycle and for as long as possible after.

Thurs + Sat Aromasin 12.5mg

Wk 1

EPO 1000iu EOD

Anadrol 100mg ED(50/50)
Test suspension 100mg ED(50/50)
Trenbolone acetate 75mg ED
Aromasin 12.5mg ED
Cabaser .5mg Every Third Day
HCG 200iu Every Third Day
Vitamin B12 500mcg EOD
TUDCA 500mg ED(250/250)

Wks 2-8

Same as wk1 but drop Anadrol on Weds and pulse throughout 8 weeks - 10 days on / 10 days off

Wks 5-12
Add EQ 150mg EOD

Wks 8-12
As soon as Anadrol is dropped start Anavar 25mg ED and Halotestin 40mg ED

Wk 13-

Drop all for 10 days and fast EOD and < 2000 calories on non-fast days to induce catabolic state then:

Wk 14

Starting Weds:

5000+ calories ED

20mg Test Suspension ED
200mg Tren Ace ED
EQ 150mg ED
Anadrol 150mg ED
Anavar 50mg ED
Halotestin 80mg ED
Oral Tren(Methyltrienolone) 500mcg ED(250/250)

Continue with ancillaries - maybe bump up Cabergoline a little depending upon prolactin serum levels

Wks 15-18

Continue as above but drop EQ at week 16, drop tren ace beginning week 18 and drop test suspension and orals mid week 18

Drop HCG week 18

Wks 19 onwards = PCT Clomid 100/50/50/50 and Nolva 40/20/20/20/20 with daily fenugreek. Drop HGH and begin CJC-1295(DAC) to restore pituitary production of GH
TUDCA 1250mg ED during PCT

Thoughts?
 
1 Question ~ have you ever done anything even Remotely Close to this previously.

Observation ~ Boy is your Liver going to Hate you better break-out the Kitchen Sink for Liver/Kidney/Cardiovascular Support.
Tudca by itself isn't going to do the Trick................................. JP
P.S.
Is your HGH UGL and that's the reason for the 10 Iu's a day.
P.S.S.
Not a Fan of Pulsing ~ Waste of Time !
 
jp4355 said:
1 Question ~ have you ever done anything even Remotely Close to this previously.
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I'm mid-first cycle now and it's a little like the above yes. Tren Ace, Test E, Anadrol pulsing, oral Tren, winny, HGH 10iu a day etc. No sides whatsoever. Blood pressure = 142/78. Caber keeps my prolactin too low for pathology to pick up. Using Adex to control e2. Liver function tests all good.

Observation ~ Boy is your Liver going to Hate you better break-out the Kitchen Sink for Liver/Kidney/Cardiovascular Support.
Tudca by itself isn't going to do the Trick................................. JP
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Taking Hawthorne Berry + antioxidants + olive leaf extract and a few other things to help cardiovascular system. Taking liver tonic with taurine in it which also helps with cholestasis.

P.S.
Is your HGH UGL and that's the reason for the 10 Iu's a day.
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Certainly not. I use pharma only: Russian Jintropin with anti-counterfeiting system including embedded fibres. Got bloods done when I started and my IGF-1 levels were twice the top reference range. It's as good as Humatrope but a fifth the price. I don't get any sides whatsoever from 10iu a day.

P.S.S.
Not a Fan of Pulsing ~ Waste of Time !
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Really? I thought it's a good way to use orals for longer because it limits organ damage.
 
Oops. EQ shouldn't be ED really as it's got a biological half life of two weeks. I need to adjust that.

I've got plenty of time to tinker with it as I won't be starting my second cycle till January next year.
 
NY REBEL said:
Mid first cycle anna want to run suspension and tren, halo, drol and anavar? ? Like hard understand your layout..
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Yeah sorry about the layout. I'm going to start EPO two weeks before cycle begins to build up red blood cell count. Anadrol + Vit B12 also boost red blood cell production.

Anadrol for first ten days then off for ten days rinse, repeat until week 8. From week 8 I add var + halo. Week 13 to mid-week 14 I drop everything and induce catabolic state. Then second half of week 14 I start up with some crazy doses to elicit the sort of gains you normally only get at the beginning of a cycle.
 
Good God bro better you then me. How many cycles have you done. What im getting at is have you used all these compounds and know how your body is going to react. Seems like a lot.
 
twistedtanker said:
Good God bro better you then me. How many cycles have you done. What im getting at is have you used all these compounds and know how your body is going to react. Seems like a lot.
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It is progressive so at any time sides get out of hand I can scale back. I started first cycle with test e 500mg per week and Anadrol 50mg ED and just kept adding shit and I still have no sides. I monitor lipids, blood pressure and pulse, liver function, serum e2 and PRL levels closely etc. Any sign of trouble and I can drop or scale back. Only the EQ has a long half life. Everything else I can be clear in a few hours or days.
 
Trent Baloney said:
This is my idea for my next cycle:

HGH 10iu ED throughout
T3 75mcg ED throughout

Insulin throughout post-workout 4-8iu with dextrose - dosage dependent on blood glucose reading

No workouts during catabolic phases

Wk minus 2

EPO 2000iu EOD

Wk minus 1

EPO 2000iu EOD

Fast thurs, fri, sat, sun to induce catabolic state then 5000+ calories a day throughout cycle and for as long as possible after.

Thurs + Sat Aromasin 12.5mg

Wk 1

EPO 1000iu EOD

Anadrol 100mg ED(50/50)
Test suspension 100mg ED(50/50)
Trenbolone acetate 75mg ED
Aromasin 12.5mg ED
Cabaser .5mg Every Third Day
HCG 200iu Every Third Day
Vitamin B12 500mcg EOD
TUDCA 500mg ED(250/250)

Wks 2-8

Same as wk1 but drop Anadrol on Weds and pulse throughout 8 weeks - 10 days on / 10 days off

Wks 5-12
Add EQ 150mg EOD

Wks 8-12
As soon as Anadrol is dropped start Anavar 25mg ED and Halotestin 40mg ED

Wk 13-

Drop all for 10 days and fast EOD and < 2000 calories on non-fast days to induce catabolic state then:

Wk 14

Starting Weds:

5000+ calories ED

20mg Test Suspension ED
200mg Tren Ace ED
EQ 150mg ED
Anadrol 150mg ED
Anavar 50mg ED
Halotestin 80mg ED
Oral Tren(Methyltrienolone) 500mcg ED(250/250)

Continue with ancillaries - maybe bump up Cabergoline a little depending upon prolactin serum levels

Wks 15-18

Continue as above but drop EQ at week 16, drop tren ace beginning week 18 and drop test suspension and orals mid week 18

Drop HCG week 18

Wks 19 onwards = PCT Clomid 100/50/50/50 and Nolva 40/20/20/20/20 with daily fenugreek. Drop HGH and begin CJC-1295(DAC) to restore pituitary production of GH
TUDCA 1250mg ED during PCT

Thoughts?
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Good Luck on your cycle.
 
Why do some people feel the need to run every compound known to man. All your doing is fucking yourself in the long run. A first time user should get plenty out a 500mg wk test only cycle. Each cycle after that add one thing. Up a dose a little. After a cycle like this you have nowhere to go. Your blowing your load way to early. That much shit is not needed. Either your taking advise from the old Bostin Lloyd or you have the shittyest genetics ever
 
This cycle is plain outrageous. More does not always mean better! A few compounds will do wonders if chosen wisely, even at low doses. Don't forget that at a certain point in time will come the moment, when the AAS will stop helping with growth, and will only give more side effects.

It's just.....I don't even know what to say - I feel sad now for your liver. And for everything else. You are playing with fire.
 
stevesmi said:
just out of curiousity how much did that entire thing cost you?

are you competing or so rich you have money to blow? what is the reason for all that?
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Drol and tren have the best cost to results ratios of any compounds. Var and halo are a little pricey but everything else is pretty cheap. The Jintropin cost me nearly five grand US for 2000iu. But holy shit man have you ever experienced the synergy of test / tren / drol with HGH? I don't ever want leave these compounds. They will form the base of EVERY cycle I do from now on. Utterly batshit energy, happy aggression and demented strength plus the cabergoline(dopamine agonist) has me floating in the clouds.
 
Evil Anvil said:
Not sure why you titled this thread second cycle HELP when you already seem to have made your mind up.
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I was asking for technical advise regarding dosage, half life of compounds, interactions etc. I want to be sure I get all the technical stuff right obviously and as I'm inexperienced I was asking for help planning everything. But yes, I have made up my mind that test / tren / drol / HGH is a stack that suits me well and with winny and oral tren it just gets better so next time I want to add some var to the mix and see how things go.
 
jp4355 said:
1 Question ~ have you ever done anything even Remotely Close to this previously.

Observation ~ Boy is your Liver going to Hate you better break-out the Kitchen Sink for Liver/Kidney/Cardiovascular Support.
Tudca by itself isn't going to do the Trick................................. JP
P.S.
Is your HGH UGL and that's the reason for the 10 Iu's a day.
P.S.S.
Not a Fan of Pulsing ~ Waste of Time !
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I agree with JP man. this is insane for a second cycle by the way.
 
I have 1 Last Question.
You say that you're Not going to Workout during Catabolic Phases.
Can you Breakdown Exactly what you mean by that, as maybe I'm Reading this Incorrectly............................... JP
 
Definately progressive thinking OP. You will get flogged mostly for that layout because you didnt use the cookie cutter. Study, Refine and proceed with caution. Good luck
 
I recommend NOT doing this cycle. It is excessive on so many levels and not needed what so ever.

All I can say is that if you do decide to do this cycle, make sure to use a liver aid while on cycle - n2guard from n2bm.com at 7 capsules/day

and have a REALLY good PCT protocol for after wards: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

If you want help developing a cycle, send me a PM. This cycle lay out I would honestly just delete completely and start again.
 
Trent Baloney said:
This is my idea for my next cycle:

HGH 10iu ED throughout
T3 75mcg ED throughout

Insulin throughout post-workout 4-8iu with dextrose - dosage dependent on blood glucose reading

No workouts during catabolic phases

Wk minus 2

EPO 2000iu EOD

Wk minus 1

EPO 2000iu EOD

Fast thurs, fri, sat, sun to induce catabolic state then 5000+ calories a day throughout cycle and for as long as possible after.

Thurs + Sat Aromasin 12.5mg

Wk 1

EPO 1000iu EOD

Anadrol 100mg ED(50/50)
Test suspension 100mg ED(50/50)
Trenbolone acetate 75mg ED
Aromasin 12.5mg ED
Cabaser .5mg Every Third Day
HCG 200iu Every Third Day
Vitamin B12 500mcg EOD
TUDCA 500mg ED(250/250)

Wks 2-8

Same as wk1 but drop Anadrol on Weds and pulse throughout 8 weeks - 10 days on / 10 days off

Wks 5-12
Add EQ 150mg EOD

Wks 8-12
As soon as Anadrol is dropped start Anavar 25mg ED and Halotestin 40mg ED

Wk 13-

Drop all for 10 days and fast EOD and < 2000 calories on non-fast days to induce catabolic state then:

Wk 14

Starting Weds:

5000+ calories ED

20mg Test Suspension ED
200mg Tren Ace ED
EQ 150mg ED
Anadrol 150mg ED
Anavar 50mg ED
Halotestin 80mg ED
Oral Tren(Methyltrienolone) 500mcg ED(250/250)

Continue with ancillaries - maybe bump up Cabergoline a little depending upon prolactin serum levels

Wks 15-18

Continue as above but drop EQ at week 16, drop tren ace beginning week 18 and drop test suspension and orals mid week 18

Drop HCG week 18

Wks 19 onwards = PCT Clomid 100/50/50/50 and Nolva 40/20/20/20/20 with daily fenugreek. Drop HGH and begin CJC-1295(DAC) to restore pituitary production of GH
TUDCA 1250mg ED during PCT

Thoughts?
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very dangerous cycle. ... be very careful
 
Thanks for the replies. After reading the last few comments from guys who (presumably) have experience with halo and other compounds I'm not familiar with I've reconsidered and will scale back the whole cycle as it is a little crazy. I'm going to drop the EPO too as AAS will boost red blood cells more than enough. Thanks for everyone's input. I'll keep this thread going with my modified cycle plan as I work it out. Definitely want to use test / tren / drol / HGH as the base stack though. I have a heap of gear stocked up so any ideas for a good cycle based on the gear I have would be appreciated. I have everything listed in cycle except the EPO plus I also have injectable Winstrol and oral Winstrol, Nandrolone Decanoate, dianabol, IGF-1 LR3, IGF-1 DES and some Proviron. I know people think Proviron is useless but I've seen bloodwork that suggests it's effective at restoring LH and FSH during PCT. As well as Arimidex, Aromasin, Nolva and Clomid I also have letrozole on hand.
 
Jrbdallas said:
Right?! ? lol. He ain't gonna live long.

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I pull bloods weekly - lipids, e2, prolactin, liver function and monitor my BP and pulse daily. I even plan on getting an echo ultrasound in six months to ensure my heart is good and to ensure it doesn't grow from all the AAS and GH/IGF. I know what I'm doing.
 
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