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both those steroids are great for mass. how were your results? if you weren't happy either your source sucks, your genetics are awful, or you simply do not have your dial dialed in.
you can stack them together if you like them. they are great appetite boosters and you should be able to easily raise your calories quite a bit on them together
you can stack them together if you like them. they are great appetite boosters and you should be able to easily raise your calories quite a bit on them together
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It is impossible to not get results with a stack of Dbol and testosterone. You can get better results, or worse, but even the poor results with this stack will be there to be seen with ease. Either your gear was bunk, or you were doing something very wrong.
Like @stevesmi said - the first thing you need to do is find a reputable source. If you are looking for a steroid source, check the source reviews section on the board here
nothing will put on size and strength like the old school classic bulking cycle of test + deca + dbol -> http://www.evolutionary.org/testosterone-deca-durabolin-dbol-cycle
Both deca and test are known to cause a lot of water retention. Especially if you aren't using the proper support supplements with your cycle.
Remember to include the proper support supplements with your cycle:
1. An AI to keep estrogen in the low-normal range. Aromasin at 10mg EOD is a good dosage.
2. An anti-prolactin drug to keep prolactin in the low-normal range. Cabergoline at 0.25mg EOD is a good dosage.
The support supplements are very important because high estrogen and prolactin levels can lead to side effects like gyno and water retention.
I would also add in a good liver aid supplement like n2guard from n2bm.com when using the dbol because it is a liver toxic oral steroid.
Here's what I recommend:
Weeks 1 - 16
testosterone 500mg/week
deca 300mg/week
aromasin 12.5mg every other day
cabergoline 0.25mg every other day
Weeks 1 - 6
dbol 30mg/day
n2guard 7 capsules/day
After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
nothing will put on size and strength like the old school classic bulking cycle of test + deca + dbol -> http://www.evolutionary.org/testosterone-deca-durabolin-dbol-cycle
Both deca and test are known to cause a lot of water retention. Especially if you aren't using the proper support supplements with your cycle.
Remember to include the proper support supplements with your cycle:
1. An AI to keep estrogen in the low-normal range. Aromasin at 10mg EOD is a good dosage.
2. An anti-prolactin drug to keep prolactin in the low-normal range. Cabergoline at 0.25mg EOD is a good dosage.
The support supplements are very important because high estrogen and prolactin levels can lead to side effects like gyno and water retention.
I would also add in a good liver aid supplement like n2guard from n2bm.com when using the dbol because it is a liver toxic oral steroid.
Here's what I recommend:
Weeks 1 - 16
testosterone 500mg/week
deca 300mg/week
aromasin 12.5mg every other day
cabergoline 0.25mg every other day
Weeks 1 - 6
dbol 30mg/day
n2guard 7 capsules/day
After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
It sounds like you have been off for a while so why not keep it simple. Run the test and dbol again, or test and deca. Both cycles are great for gaining mass.
Make sure you have all your supports and ancillaries lined up before starting your cycle. Same thing with all your PCT products.
Muskate gave you a great layout too if you want to run something like that.
Make sure you have all your supports and ancillaries lined up before starting your cycle. Same thing with all your PCT products.
Muskate gave you a great layout too if you want to run something like that.
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