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What's up my fellow Evolutionary members. I am new to the community. I'm 35yrs young with 12-15% of BF give or take, and I've been lifting for about 4-5 years. This week I started my very first cycle ever. The cycle consit of Test E 500mg a week 250mg/1ml on monday and the same on thursday for 12 weeks. While on cycle I'm also running 12.5mg of Aromasin eod. For PCT I will be running everything from the Perfect PCT thread. Now, on Monday I did my very first pin of Test E 250mg/1ml in my quad area. Surprisingly enough the pin did not hurt at all. Everything went smooth! Now its been 3 days and my leg still hurts and Around the whole area I Injected in has gotten a little swollen and redness has developed in the area. Is this normal ? Today I am suppose to pin myself again, but I'm not sure if I should due the fact that maybe I'm getting an allergic reaction to it. Any help would be greatly appreciated guys. Thanks!
PIP is completely normal after an injection. Especially for a first cycle. As long as a rash doesn't develop or you don't develop a fever - you are fine. It is just PIP. If either of those two occur, go to the hospital immediately.
I would use glutes as an injection site. It is much easier. Inject in the upper outer quadrant of the glute. Alternate butt cheeks each injection.
Here are some tips for reducing PIP:
1. Heat up the oil prior to injecting. Run the vial under hot water for 1-2 minutes. Heating up the oil will bring it closer to body temperature and make the oil disperse from the muscle into the blood stream much easier.
2. Gently massage the injection site for 1-2 minutes after the injection. It'll help disperse the oil into the blood stream.
3. I am a big advocate of training the muscle you injected into that day. It'll help disperse the oil from the muscle into the blood stream. In other words, try to time your glute injection on the day you train legs/glutes.
I would use glutes as an injection site. It is much easier. Inject in the upper outer quadrant of the glute. Alternate butt cheeks each injection.
Here are some tips for reducing PIP:
1. Heat up the oil prior to injecting. Run the vial under hot water for 1-2 minutes. Heating up the oil will bring it closer to body temperature and make the oil disperse from the muscle into the blood stream much easier.
2. Gently massage the injection site for 1-2 minutes after the injection. It'll help disperse the oil into the blood stream.
3. I am a big advocate of training the muscle you injected into that day. It'll help disperse the oil from the muscle into the blood stream. In other words, try to time your glute injection on the day you train legs/glutes.
Thank you for the information Muskate. Quick question, what do you mean when you say a rash? Do you mean redness? Because right now around the whole area where I pinned on my quad has redness. I talking the whole area. Not just the spot I pinned. The whole circumstances of the pinned area. I havent felt anything else unusual besides PIP and the redness around the whole area where I pinned.
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if its swollen or warm to the touch you should probably get it checked out, that can big a big indicator of infection. def monitor your temp.
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In my experience I have only ever had PIP when using UGL's and only a specific few, which I won't bother naming. When I use my prescription test or a UGL that I assume is cleaner I never get pip whatsoever at all. I honestly believe PIP has to do with whether the gear is clean and sterile or if you have some sort of allergic reaction to an ingredient in it. I have tried all the nonsense that people suggest, heating it up, holding your hand super steady, etc. and with one UGL in particular it never mattered, I got PIP every time and bad. Then when I used my prescription stuff without warming it up and not even having a steady hand I had no PIP at all. Take it how you want but this is my two cents and it may not even be worth that much, lol.
I posted on your other thread buddy.
You want to get it checked out then. I think you are allergic to the carrier oil the UG lab is using in the product.
if you go to the doctor he will give you anti-biotics which you don't need. and you will get better and think it was from those drugs lol.
an infection does not develop quickly, it takes many days. so its not infected
you either have an allergy or you got tissue irritation.
you can try mixing the oil with another before you inject and see if that helps
an infection does not develop quickly, it takes many days. so its not infected
you either have an allergy or you got tissue irritation.
you can try mixing the oil with another before you inject and see if that helps
Steve is correct, since this is your first cycle your body is more than likely fighting a foreign agent you injected into it, and should clear up as time goes on, Just keep an eye on it and massage with a hot washcloth ,Another area to inject is delts they are super easy.
Thanks a lot guys for all the advise. Thursday I pinned mysef again. This time I did like some of you suggested and went into my gluten. Man, I'm never pinning in my quad ever again. Gluten all day lol! I'm Just going to alternate. Pin Went in smooth. No pain. No swelling. No Redness. Just a Little soreness the next day. Nothing like the quad! I warmed up the vial under hot water for about 2 mins. Loaded up, and boom 1,2,3 done! Jumped in a hot shower and massage the area for a few minutes. As for my quad, the redness is going away and swelling has gone down. Muscle still a little sore but nothing like the first 2-3 days. Man those 2-3 days I felt like a horse kicked me right on my quad. Man never again! But Thanks again guys for all your input. I really appreciate it.
bro do a log of the cycle...post on evo
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I am glad to see that you have appreciated the convenience of the glutes for injections. No wonder it is the go-to injection site used by doctors - you can't find a better spot for injections in the human body, so it is best to do the injections in the glutes whenever possible. Keep us posted on your progress!
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