starting out advice

[Jeffc19]

So i am a natural lifter, I am also new here so hi to everybody. I know many people would say to use the search function but I live a busy life style and I need information best suited directly to me. I am 175 lbs 5'9, 26 years old and Ive been lifting for about 5 years now. Ive been the type of guy to get some muscle but never get like where i want to be. Ive always used just stuff like protein and other supplements that claimed they would do this and that. After being the same size and going up and down in muscle mass im getting tired of limited results.I finally want to try to step into the anabolic world and break through. I was thinking about learning out some before trying to get big. I have a little bit of belly fat over my abs and I could use some more definition. I was wondering what would be a good cutting stack someone would recommend within a reasonable budget say around 300 dollars ??

I was looking at anavar but it looked super expensive with the amount I would have to buy just to sustain a cycle. I know alot of the information is there and I will try to read up on it in time but being a noob and totally lost I was hoping someone could at least point me in the right direction or tell me what they used and helped them in thier experience. I am just trying to get started It would be great to hear some feedback from you guys. Would that be a good idea to cut and then go into getting big ... Ive always heard about windstrol for cutting and mainly decca or dinabol for bulking..but i hear lots of negative stuff about some of them. Im just afraid you know I dont want to end up with my dick not ever working again or big tits. I know some kind of PCT will be required/

 

[Jeffc19]

I also saw someone say for your first cycle u should only run test is that true ?

 

[gearedright]

Im just afraid you know I dont want to end up with my dick not ever working again or big tits. I know some kind of PCT will be required/[/QUOTE]

A very well laid out PCT is required if you do not want the above mentioned things to happen.

IMO bro, save your $300 and put it toward your bulk cycle. You don't need AAS to lose a couple lbs of BF. Dial your diet in, figure out your maint calories and start off by going in a deficit of 500 cal a day. Adjust as needed.

You will be glad you saved the cash for your bulk cycle because it is EASILY going to run you over $500 if you do it correctly.

 

[Jeffc19]

gearedright, I see the wisdom in what your saying. Im thinking ima keep with the diet I've been on for the next 30 days. I mix it up with light reps in the gym and i run atleast 3 days out of the week. I've been doing some reading online and it looks like alot of people recommend test E for 10 to 12 weeks along with possibly dinabol at 30-50 mgs the first 4 weeks ? finish it off with nova or chlomid for PCT. is that what you guys would recommend ?

 

[gearedright]

12 weeks test e

Weeks 1-4 Dbol @ 30mg ed

Run Aromasin 12.5 eod from day 1

 

[gearedright]

http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...-post-cycle-therapy-(pct)-explained-7556.html

Here's your PCT

 

[RickRock]

Why don't you give sarms a try first? Try out the sarms triple stack which will throw muscle and strength on you while losing bodyfat (with the right diet and training). They don't shut you down like AAS and don't carry the other side effects. It's a great way to get your start

Ostarine 25mg per day
S4 50mg per day
GW 20mg per day

All available at www.sarms1.com

 

[MikeSnow]

A triple stack of SARMS can give you better results than an anavar only cycle IMO

 

[alphalife]

gearedright, I see the wisdom in what your saying. Im thinking ima keep with the diet I've been on for the next 30 days. I mix it up with light reps in the gym and i run atleast 3 days out of the week. I've been doing some reading online and it looks like alot of people recommend test E for 10 to 12 weeks along with possibly dinabol at 30-50 mgs the first 4 weeks ? finish it off with nova or chlomid for PCT. is that what you guys would recommend ?

This is a good plan. Make sure you use Adex or Aromasin on cycle.

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[JackSteel]

Yes test is best for a first cycle but you're simply going to have to make time to do the research bro. No one here can give you person specific advice. No one knows how you will react. We try to do the best we can with rules of thumb and things like that but in the end you'll have to dial your specifics in as you go. You need to know what you need to use with the test and why. If you don't learn these things you'll eventually fuck up if you're just trusting other people to tell you what to do and how. Do yourself a favor and take the time to research. "No time" isn't q good excuse IMO because everyone makes time for something they want. Sorry I'm a bit irritable tonight and tired so you got my blunt answer lol


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[aggirl]

I agree with the sarms. ..definitely give them a go. Keep your diet clean. Lift big. ...eat bigger. See what happens with them. In the meantime research as much as possible...period. Get a game plan for your first aas cycle down and post it on here...go from there. Do a bulk cycle after a few months.