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I plan for gaining cycle after one year

Age 26
Height - 5'7"
Weight - 70kg

1-12 week Test E 500mg/week ( two shots 250mg in week)
1-4 week Dbol 30mg/day
1-12 week adex 0.25mg EOD
1-12 week HCG 500iu/week

PCT
15-18 week Clomid and Nolva how much doage?

Nutrition per day 3500 calories clean diet
Training experience- 6 year
Is it good for me if not then changes plz..
 
what do you mean after one year? that adex dose is too low for dbol and test man... pct is terrible as well... i would try to get more size naturally before you use steroids as well... you could easily add another 10-15 pounds without any sort of ped whatsoever
 
maxdeep said:
I plan for gaining cycle after one year

Age 26
Height - 5'7"
Weight - 70kg

1-12 week Test E 500mg/week ( two shots 250mg in week)
1-4 week Dbol 30mg/day
1-12 week adex 0.25mg EOD
1-12 week HCG 500iu/week

PCT
15-18 week Clomid and Nolva how much doage?

Nutrition per day 3500 calories clean diet
Training experience- 6 year
Is it good for me if not then changes plz..
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You don't weigh anywhere near enough for someone who wants to go on gear after six years
 
dylangemelli said:
what do you mean after one year? that adex dose is too low for dbol and test man... pct is terrible as well... i would try to get more size naturally before you use steroids as well... you could easily add another 10-15 pounds without any sort of ped whatsoever
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I don’t agree. Arimidex is not needed at a high dose for this. I will not comment on pct because I am on script trt. I am on a prescription test 200mg a week and take arimidex 1mg a week dosed at 0.5 mg twice a week. Most people overdose their ai for no reason. Old school bodybuilders took no ai or serm and did amazing. Look at Arnold. Estrogen is needed for gains. It is preferable to have high estrogen as long as you are not seeing any negative sides. If you see negative sides like gyno etc then up the ai.





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rhynoplanet said:
I don’t agree. Arimidex is not needed at a high dose for this. I will not comment on pct because I am on script trt. I am on a prescription test 200mg a week and take arimidex 1mg a week dosed at 0.5 mg twice a week. Most people overdose their ai for no reason. Old school bodybuilders took no ai or serm and did amazing. Look at Arnold. Estrogen is needed for gains. It is preferable to have high estrogen as long as you are not seeing any negative sides. If you see negative sides like gyno etc then up the ai.





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Of course estrogen is needed but for one, hes NOT arnold and thats such a damn idiotic comparison to make and hes running 500 mg of test with dbol and with a weaker ai... thats not even remotely close to over doing it at all

do we have bloodwork from all the old bodybuilders that says they had no problems from not having the necessary ancillaries to protect themselves? is that documented?? i must have missed it all


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dylangemelli said:
Of course estrogen is needed but for one, hes NOT arnold and thats such a damn idiotic comparison to make and hes running 500 mg of test with dbol and with a weaker ai... thats not even remotely close to over doing it at all

do we have bloodwork from all the old bodybuilders that says they had no problems from not having the necessary ancillaries to protect themselves? is that documented?? i must have missed it all


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You are too much and the reason why I stopped coming here for so long. I never said he was Arnold. I just made a statement that in that time period they didn’t run any AI or seems to combat estrogen. They all did pretty good without it, you can deny that. Doesn’t matter about bloodwork, just look at them all from that time period, they looked amazing. And you are calling arimidex a weaker AI? That right there shows your ignorance and lack of knowledge. Arimidex is a strong AI. Keep going bud, I don’t care if you try to insult or attack me, you are delusional.


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rhynoplanet said:
You are too much and the reason why I stopped coming here for so long. I never said he was Arnold. I just made a statement that in that time period they didn’t run any AI or seems to combat estrogen. They all did pretty good without it, you can deny that. Doesn’t matter about bloodwork, just look at them all from that time period, they looked amazing. And you are calling arimidex a weaker AI? That right there shows your ignorance and lack of knowledge. Arimidex is a strong AI. Keep going bud, I don’t care if you try to insult or attack me, you are delusional.


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Arimidex is far weaker than aromasin and or letro... my bad, we will just do things like they did in the 80s... my mistake man... apparently now there is no need to worry about estrogen conversion smfh.. im delusional? I never insulted u at all but im definitely not the delusional one here


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dylangemelli said:
Arimidex is far weaker than aromasin and or letro... my bad, we will just do things like they did in the 80s... my mistake man... apparently now there is no need to worry about estrogen conversion smfh.. im delusional? I never insulted u at all but im definitely not the delusional one here


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Lol. Arimidex is stronger the aromasin that is why it can crash your estrogen. Letro is stronger then both for sure and I wouldn’t suggest anyone mess with letro unless it is a last resort to combat estrogen. I never said there was no worry about estrogen conversion, now you are putting words in my mouth. I just said it is better to have estrogen a little too high instead of too low and said that I the old days they did nothing to combat it. Never suggested to let it get out of hand.


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rhynoplanet said:
Lol. Arimidex is stronger the aromasin that is why it can crash your estrogen. Letro is stronger then both for sure and I wouldn’t suggest anyone mess with letro unless it is a last resort to combat estrogen. I never said there was no worry about estrogen conversion, now you are putting words in my mouth. I just said it is better to have estrogen a little too high instead of too low and said that I the old days they did nothing to combat it. Never suggested to let it get out of hand.


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Aromasin is a suicide inhibitor... its much stronger than arimidex, come on man... i never disagreed that estrogen was necessary... the last thing u want is crashed estrogen. Im sure we both agree there


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Aromasin is a suicide inhibitor... its much stronger than aromasin, come on man... i never disagreed that estrogen was necessary... the last thing u want is crashed estrogen. Im sure we both agree there


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? Aromasin is much stronger then aromasin? I really don’t agree that aromasin is stronger then arimidex. I have seen many more people crash their estrogen with arimidex then aromasin


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rhynoplanet said:
? Aromasin is much stronger then aromasin? I really don’t agree that aromasin is stronger then arimidex. I have seen many more people crash their estrogen with arimidex then aromasin


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Its a suicidal inhibitor man... it kills estrogen... arimidex does not and thats why its not used in pct because it wont stop estrogen rebound


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at the end of the day i agree with what has been said.

you are only 154 pounds.. bro unless you are ripped like under 7% body fat for your height I do not see how you have used steroids for 6 years. why continue to waste money and sacrficie your health for nothing? need to improve your diet and exercise. if you are that shredded than disregard.

i see too many guys in the gym use steroids and who get nowhere.. they are too skinny or way too fat. there is an art to this
 
dylangemelli said:
LMFAOOOOOOO unreal... yeah you need some sleep for sure... fucking hilarious! thank you, i needed a good laugh for sure
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You are too much Dylan. You rely completely on the non scientific bro crap and when you can’t back it up you just keep saying how I am funny and a joke. I think you should probably start to study chemistry if you want to keep handing out this bullshit advice.


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rhynoplanet said:
You are too much Dylan. You rely completely on the non scientific bro crap and when you can’t back it up you just keep saying how I am funny and a joke. I think you should probably start to study chemistry if you want to keep handing out this bullshit advice.


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Lol ok bud. Lolll


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rhynoplanet said:
I don’t need to and the estrogen rebound is bullshit. That’s bro shit.
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Per an October 1976 article, relative to breast cancer and published by the National Center for Biotechnology, we read:

"Cancer. 1976 Oct;38(4):1834-7.
Rebound response after estrogen therapy for metastatic breast cancer.

"Nesto RW, Cady B, Oberfield RA, Pazianos AG, Salzman FA.
Abstract
The estrogen rebound response in metastatic breast cancer has been reported in the past as a rare and short-lived phenomenon, not clearly associated with any aspect of the patient's clinical profile. In this series, 25% of patients responding to estrogen therapy had a further response when they no longer received the hormone. The median duration of this palliation was a minimum of 18 months and was similar to that of the initial estrogen response. Patients with a rebound response had significantly longer disease-free intervals before estrogen therapy and estrogen remissions than those who did not have a rebound response. These clinical factors may, therefore, be helpful in predicting the chances of a rebound response in any given patient. It is urged that patients be observed for objective improvement without therapy upon escape from estrogen palliation. Further palliative therapy should not be offered until definite progression of disease has been documented after any rebound response that occurs.
PMID: 991097
[Indexed for MEDLINE]"

Ergo, not only is the medical condition known as "estrogen rebound" real, it also pertains to issues that have nothing to do with AAS.
 
Eddie Haskell said:
Per an October 1976 article, relative to breast cancer and published by the National Center for Biotechnology, we read:

"Cancer. 1976 Oct;38(4):1834-7.
Rebound response after estrogen therapy for metastatic breast cancer.

"Nesto RW, Cady B, Oberfield RA, Pazianos AG, Salzman FA.
Abstract
The estrogen rebound response in metastatic breast cancer has been reported in the past as a rare and short-lived phenomenon, not clearly associated with any aspect of the patient's clinical profile. In this series, 25% of patients responding to estrogen therapy had a further response when they no longer received the hormone. The median duration of this palliation was a minimum of 18 months and was similar to that of the initial estrogen response. Patients with a rebound response had significantly longer disease-free intervals before estrogen therapy and estrogen remissions than those who did not have a rebound response. These clinical factors may, therefore, be helpful in predicting the chances of a rebound response in any given patient. It is urged that patients be observed for objective improvement without therapy upon escape from estrogen palliation. Further palliative therapy should not be offered until definite progression of disease has been documented after any rebound response that occurs.
PMID: 991097
[Indexed for MEDLINE]"

Ergo, not only is the medical condition known as "estrogen rebound" real, it also pertains to issues that have nothing to do with AAS.
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Cool, thanks for providing a study and not just saying it while laughing. I am curious of the outcome if you added aas to the mix.


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rhynoplanet said:
Cool, thanks for providing a study and not just saying it while laughing. I am curious of the outcome if you added aas to the mix.


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The only reason i laughed is because u were such a dick in your response. If u wanted to just converse on it i would have done that man


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dylangemelli said:
The only reason i laughed is because u were such a dick in your response. If u wanted to just converse on it i would have done that man


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You never responded without laughing and being an arrogant prick. I was just discussing the topic. For a guy who is supposed to be a leader on this board that doesn’t portray a welcoming atmosphere for newcomers. Belittling and mocking a member is not a positive way to help the board or it’s members.


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rhynoplanet said:
You never responded without laughing and being an arrogant prick. I was just discussing the topic. For a guy who is supposed to be a leader on this board that doesn’t portray a welcoming atmosphere for newcomers. Belittling and mocking a member is not a positive way to help the board or it’s members.


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Ok dude im done. Your full of shit. Go back and actually read. I got that way after u started it. You live in fantasy land. Fuck!


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rhynoplanet said:
I don’t agree. Arimidex is not needed at a high dose for this. I will not comment on pct because I am on script trt. I am on a prescription test 200mg a week and take arimidex 1mg a week dosed at 0.5 mg twice a week. Most people overdose their ai for no reason. Old school bodybuilders took no ai or serm and did amazing. Look at Arnold. Estrogen is needed for gains. It is preferable to have high estrogen as long as you are not seeing any negative sides. If you see negative sides like gyno etc then up the ai.




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Rhyno - I would disagree with the "preferable to have high estrogen" Estrogen contributes to prostate cancer. Estrogen feeds cancer in general. High estrogen is even a problem in women. It affects sexual performance, mood, exhaustion, etc..
 
E32038 said:
Rhyno - I would disagree with the "preferable to have high estrogen" Estrogen contributes to prostate cancer. Estrogen feeds cancer in general. High estrogen is even a problem in women. It affects sexual performance, mood, exhaustion, etc..
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I should have been more specific. High end of normal range is good, not high as in way above top end of normal. Stan Efferding has covered this topic many times, he even goes on to say the AIs are one of the top 3 things to never take if you are looking to add muscle and strength and that they are bad for bodybuilders.


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dylangemelli said:
Ok dude im done. Your full of shit. Go back and actually read. I got that way after u started it. You live in fantasy land. Fuck!


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You are such a waste of time and impossible to have a discussion with.


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rhynoplanet said:
You are such a waste of time and impossible to have a discussion with.


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Piss iff man seriously. Go back and actually read instead of being a fucking prick. I agreed with you about crushing estrogen and then explained to you about aromasin being stronger and touched on estrogen rebound just trying to have a back and forth explanation etc with you and u went off about me preaching bro science and not knowing what im talking about. You must be off your meds


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