Thoughts on Test E/Deca/DBol Stack

[coolhand7896]

Just wanting opinions suggestions on running Test E 600mg, Deca 300mg per week with Dbol 50mg ED pre workout.

This isnt my 1st cycle and I'm sure there's more than can be done, just wanted you guys thoughts on this stack.

Previous cycle was only 400mg of Test Cyp.

Anything else I should add or not do? I will run a PCT this cycle.

 

[wesley_swolle]

Just wanting opinions suggestions on running Test E 600mg, Deca 300mg per week with Dbol 50mg ED pre workout.

This isnt my 1st cycle and I'm sure there's more than can be done, just wanted you guys thoughts on this stack.

Previous cycle was only 400mg of Test Cyp.

Anything else I should add or not do? I will run a PCT this cycle.

Looks like a solid, second cycle. What are your plans for ancillaries and how long will you be running the dbol?

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[Eddie Haskell]

Just wanting opinions suggestions on running Test E 600mg, Deca 300mg per week with Dbol 50mg ED pre workout.

This isnt my 1st cycle and I'm sure there's more than can be done, just wanted you guys thoughts on this stack.

Previous cycle was only 400mg of Test Cyp.

Anything else I should add or not do? I will run a PCT this cycle.

Just as a suggestion, coolhand, I would run it like this:

Test e: 500mg Week 1-12
Deca: 300mg Week 1-12
Dbol: 30mg ED Week 1-6
Proviron: 50mg ED Week 1-12
Aromasin: 12.5mg EOD Week 1-17

So too would I at least keep cabergoline on hand.

What are planning for your PCT?

 

[Gruntwerkz]

Just as a suggestion, coolhand, I would run it like this:

Test e: 500mg Week 1-12
Deca: 300mg Week 1-12
Dbol: 30mg ED Week 1-6
Proviron: 50mg ED Week 1-12
Aromasin: 12.5mg EOD Week 1-17

So too would I at least keep cabergoline on hand.

What are planning for your PCT?

Perfect outline, for my personal needs I would have test lower as I aromatize a lot.

So just a tip for the OP, you can get away with running less test if needed. Especially with deca in the mix.

 

[stevesmi]

i would even just dump the dbol entirely. in the old days kickstarting was a big thing, but the more we evolve kickstarting isn't really necessary. plus adding more estrogen is too much

when AI's came around guys starting abusing steroids too much cause they figured they could control the estrogen. but my view is why bloat yourself at all? there is no upside to doing that unless you just want to fill water up

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Perfect outline, for my personal needs I would have test lower as I aromatize a lot.

So just a tip for the OP, you can get away with running less test if needed. Especially with deca in the mix.

Absolutely spot on, Gruntwerkz, and I should have noted that. Thank you for pointing that out.
Yes, although I am not all that given to estrogen-related sides, some guys are so given and should adjust their test' dosages accordingly, including coolhand if applicable.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

i would even just dump the dbol entirely. in the old days kickstarting was a big thing, but the more we evolve kickstarting isn't really necessary. plus adding more estrogen is too much

when AI's came around guys starting abusing steroids too much cause they figured they could control the estrogen. but my view is why bloat yourself at all? there is no upside to doing that unless you just want to fill water up

i would even just dump the dbol entirely. in the old days kickstarting was a big thing, but the more we evolve kickstarting isn't really necessary. plus adding more estrogen is too much.

I thought the very same thing, Steve. But then I thought, just in case coolhand is determined to use dbol, that he should simply drop the dosage form 50mg ED to 30mg ED. Unless he especially sensitive to estrogen, 30mg ED should be problematic, should it?

when AI's came around guys starting abusing steroids too much cause they figured they could control the estrogen. but my view is why bloat yourself at all? there is no upside to doing that unless you just want to fill water up

I've never thought of it like that before, but, yes, that probably is the case.

 

[coolhand7896]

Not sure on the ancillaries, suggestions?
I'd thought to only use the Dbol the last half of the cycle after everything was going well.

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I was going to go by the suggested cycle here on the PCT, clomid, nolvadex, n2guard etc. Not familiar with Proviron and Cabergoline.

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Thanks for all the suggestions and support. Just getting back into the bodybuilding world for a year now after a 10 year layoff. Lot has changed. Great info

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Not sure on the ancillaries, suggestions?

Clomid: 50/50/25/25
Nolva: 40/20/20/20
Aromasin: 12.5mg EOD week 1-4

I'd thought to only use the Dbol the last half of the cycle after everything was going well.

That would be fine. Unorthodox but fine.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Per liver fortification, I am of the mind that Vitamin E, TUDCA, Liv52 and other relatively inexpensive compounds are equally effective as the various other and ridiculously expensive liver guards.

 

[coolhand7896]

This instead of n2guard?

 

[Eddie Haskell]

^ Per liver fortification, I am of the mind that Vitamin E, TUDCA, Liv52 and other relatively inexpensive compounds are at least equally effective as the various other and ridiculously expensive liver guards.

 

[coolhand7896]

Clomid: 50/50/25/25
Nolva: 40/20/20/20
Aromasin: 12.5mg EOD week 1-4

I'm new so can you explain
50/50/25/25 & 40/20/20/20?

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Per liver fortification, I am of the mind that Vitamin E, TUDCA, Liv52 and other relatively inexpensive compounds are equally effective as the various other and ridiculously expensive liver guards.

This instead of n2guard?

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Clomid: 50/50/25/25
Nolva: 40/20/20/20
Aromasin: 12.5mg EOD week 1-4

I'm new so can you explain
50/50/25/25 & 40/20/20/20?

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This instead of n2guard?

I'm new so can you explain

Oh. Okay. I'm sorry that I wasn't more clear.

Aromasin (brand name: Exemestane) is a drug that reduces levels of estrogen within the human body; its "legitimate" medial use being the treatment of breast cancer.
Known as a "suicide aromatase inhibitor (AI)," Aromasin, unlike many other AIs prevents the occurrence of what is known as "estrogen rebound" and is, therefore, far superior to other AIs, such as arimidex.

"50/50/25/25" is indicative of the four week PCT protocol I recommended to you relative to the SERM clomid's dosing schedule; meaning 50mg per day during Week #1/50mg per day during Week #2/25mg per day during Week during Week #3/and 25mg per day during Week #4.

And, accordingly, "Nolva: 40/20/20/20" is indicative of said PCT protocol relative to the SERM known as nolvadex.

As for the balance of your post, coolhand, I can only repeat what I stated previously - Per liver fortification, I am of the mind that Vitamin E, TUDCA, Liv52 and other relatively inexpensive compounds are at least equally effective as the various other and ridiculously expensive liver guards.

 

[coolhand7896]

Oh. Okay. I'm sorry that I wasn't more clear.

Aromasin (brand name: Exemestane) is a drug that reduces levels of estrogen within the human body; its "legitimate" medial use being the treatment of breast cancer.
Known as a "suicide aromatase inhibitor (AI)," Aromasin, unlike many other AIs prevents the occurrence of what is known as "estrogen rebound" and is, therefore, far superior to other AIs, such as arimidex.

"50/50/25/25" is indicative of the four week PCT protocol I recommended to you relative to the SERM clomid's dosing schedule; meaning 50mg per day during Week #1/50mg per day during Week #2/25mg per day during Week during Week #3/and 25mg per day during Week #4.

And, accordingly, "Nolva: 40/20/20/20" is indicative of said PCT protocol relative to the SERM known as nolvadex.

As for the balance of your post, coolhand, I can only repeat what I stated previously - Per liver fortification, I am of the mind that Vitamin E, TUDCA, Liv52 and other relatively inexpensive compounds are at least equally effective as the various other and ridiculously expensive liver guards.

Man thanks for the knowledge and help!!! Much appreciated!!

 

[coolhand7896]

Eddie, should I run the Aromasin for weeks 1-17 like you said in the earlier post or just for 4 weeks PCT?

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Eddie, should I run the Aromasin for weeks 1-17 like you said in the earlier post or just for 4 weeks PCT?

The full seventeen weeks, bro.

I'm out!

 

[Mobster]

Just wanting opinions suggestions on running Test E 600mg, Deca 300mg per week with Dbol 50mg ED pre workout.

This isnt my 1st cycle and I'm sure there's more than can be done, just wanted you guys thoughts on this stack.

Previous cycle was only 400mg of Test Cyp.

Anything else I should add or not do? I will run a PCT this cycle.

So 400mg before and 1250mg this time? Wow

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Man thanks for the knowledge and help!!! Much appreciated!!

You are, of course, more than welcome, coolhand. But will you do all of us, including yourself, a huge favor?
Will you please repost a revised cycle plan before you begin your cycle so that we can have a chance to review it?

 

[muskate]

This instead of n2guard?

N2guard is one stop shopping. It contains TUDCA, Milk thistle, NAC etc etc.

It'll save you a lot of money compared to buying all those ingredients individually

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

^ Per liver fortification, I am of the mind that Vitamin E, TUDCA, Liv52 and other relatively inexpensive compounds are at least equally effective as the various other and ridiculously expensive liver guards.

Do you add NAC as well or are you normally within normal AST/ALT ranges with your liver support?

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Do you add NAC as well or are you normally within normal AST/ALT ranges with your liver support?

Yes, whenever I use the likes of tren' and superdrol, I also use both NAC and TUDCA. Otherwise, my blood panel numbers become all askew. But when I run drugs the likes of primo', EQ, anavar and other more mild compounds, I omit both NAC and TUDCA, and all remains well, or at least according to my outrageously expensive, smart-assed "off-the-books" endocrinologist.

 

[Fella Finn]

Man, Eddie's on fire!
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