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Underdosed Anavar

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Someone elses thread got me thinking. In my opinion the best Anavar and primo today is underdosed at best. I would say that most of the anavar and primo being sold today is flat out fake. In the early 80's a doseage of 10-20 mg of Anavar produced great results. 400 mg of primo was considered a high weekly doseage and great gains were made on less.

What am I missing???????

I would pay dearly to get original 2.5 mg var tablets that I used back in the mid 80's.
 
Agreed................I really doubt there is any properly dosed Anavar by any of the UGL and that includes any of the UGL's that people are saying are so close to Human Grade Pharma
 
ledhead said:
All UGL gear is under dosed, no matter what the drug is...
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That's a ridiculous statement, with absolutely no foundation in truth. Well done.

To the point about primo and var, I've used legitimate primo at a gram weekly (had it tested at SRCS back when they were around) and it did next to nothing for me. And I've also used legitimate anavar (tested by USP via SRCS) at 20mg daily and didn't care for it that much. Now 40+mg daily was great. But I think some people get caught up in nostalgia. Primo isn't THAT great, nor is low dose var (for men), IMO.
 
Ive seen some UGL Var at 90+% purity.. however, when you're buying from the customer side all I have to say is... GOOD LUCK
 
Vidocq said:
That's a ridiculous statement, with absolutely no foundation in truth. Well done.

To the point about primo and var, I've used legitimate primo at a gram weekly (had it tested at SRCS back when they were around) and it did next to nothing for me. And I've also used legitimate anavar (tested by USP via SRCS) at 20mg daily and didn't care for it that much. Now 40+mg daily was great. But I think some people get caught up in nostalgia. Primo isn't THAT great, nor is low dose var (for men), IMO.
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This. Plenty of labs selling legit var and primo. People are just romanticizing the gains they had"back in the day"
Felicity said:
Ive seen some UGL Var at 90+% purity.. however, when you're buying from the customer side all I have to say is... GOOD LUCK
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Sigh, this argument is so silly. Do you know how much raw var costs? Do you know how much labs sell for? Do you realize the cost of var powder is peanuts compared to what they are charging? UGL's getting sold bad purity powder is one thing, but there is just no reason for UGL's to purposely underdone things.
 
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wowstrongarms said:
This. Plenty of labs selling legit var and primo. People are just romanticizing the gains they had"back in the day"


Sigh, this argument is so silly. Do you know how much raw var costs? Do you know how much labs sell for? Do you realize the cost of var powder is peanuts compared to what they are charging? UGL's getting sold bad purity powder is one thing, but there is just no reason for UGL's to purposely underdone things.
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I suppose it would be a silly argument if I didn't know what I was talking about.

Var costs roughly $5600 from a shit chinese source and up to $10,000 from a reliable, good one. Lets take the $10,000 figure.

1kg= 1,000,000mg
1,000,000 mg = 20,000 (50mg) tablets
50 tablets per pack @ $150 per package
= $60,000 in sales.

Thanks, that was fun. :rolleyes:
 
Felicity said:
Var costs roughly $5600 from a shit chinese source and up to $10,000 from a reliable, good one. Lets take the $10,000 figure.
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Lol.

Either way the extra benefit from purposely under dosing just isn't there, if you are buying from a half decent lab. They aren't going to risk their name over a couple extra grand.
 
wowstrongarms said:
Lol.

Either way the extra benefit from purposely under dosing just isn't there, if you are buying from a half decent lab. They aren't going to risk their name over a couple extra grand.
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I see you don't wanna undermine me anymore :( its okayyyy brooooooo.

But I agree.. to save 6k and risk the reputation of an established lab, not worth it. However, most new guys will fake it because they can't afford 5-10k on a single oral since that is more than their entire raw order.
 
wowstrongarms said:
More like I was letting it slide because the argument isn't worth it. It's ok though bro.
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actually, I reread your post and you are on the same page as me, so pound it bro.

I skim too fast sometimes. I think I began to assume you were insinuating var costs too much to be real, my bad :(
 
Vidocq said:
That's a ridiculous statement, with absolutely no foundation in truth. Well done.

To the point about primo and var, I've used legitimate primo at a gram weekly (had it tested at SRCS back when they were around) and it did next to nothing for me. And I've also used legitimate anavar (tested by USP via SRCS) at 20mg daily and didn't care for it that much. Now 40+mg daily was great. But I think some people get caught up in nostalgia. Primo isn't THAT great, nor is low dose var (for men), IMO.
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Nobody cares about your erroneous opinion...
 
pharm grade primo is non injectable for me cause of the PIP and the 100mg/ml amps they come in

i can only pin UGL primo for that reason and robo has fantastic primo that's for sure in CSO so it doesn't put you on the ground in pain after injection
 
ledhead said:
Nobody cares about your erroneous opinion...
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I would love to hear what is erroneous about my opinion on either account. The latter is my opinion based on lab tested, properly dosed products that I actually used. The former is a fact, that a blanket statement I referred to was ridiculous and proven wrong by what I ACTUALLY USED, not to mention the plethora of lab tests randomly done on ug products on various boards. Is SOME ug gear underdosed? Sure. Is some on point, or overdosed? Lab tests have PROVEN that I am correct.
 
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What is not taken into consideration is UGL that buys tabs in bulk from major manufacturers like Centrino.
 
Hehehe.
Yes SD. I imagine way less of a hassle to.
Dont have to press or cap your life away.
We would never see you anymore.
 
stevesmi said:
pharm grade primo is non injectable for me cause of the PIP and the 100mg/ml amps they come in

i can only pin UGL primo for that reason and robo has fantastic primo that's for sure in CSO so it doesn't put you on the ground in pain after injection
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Ive taken 6CC of Bayer primo in my glutes.. takes some getting used to but its manageable. However, One time i must have let it leak out of the muscle and I couldn't sit down for quite a while or use that site for the rest of my run lol.

Edit; 6cc in 1 shot, 1 glute. lol
 
Interesting statement primo.I wouldn't duck with no longer,unless it's the human grade version sold bye naps and a few others.as for var there's plenty of good sources,just gotta dig deep.lAtely myself and friends r liking gb.brand from 24hour reup.4 tabs a day friends love em and 2 fitness models I got them on at 1 tab a day they r very happy.also liking a few other brands as well but not to much on searching for good var.I stick with proven and trusted brands.I am looking to poss.test out 2 New brands soon so I can update u guys on those when I get a chance.
 
primobolan needs to be run for a long period of time. some respond and some dont. now if you can get ahold of real primo acetate pills. there really great to use.
 
ledhead said:
All UGL gear is under dosed, no matter what the drug is...
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This so false is not even funny. Hell just today I posted bloods on Vulcan Labs.. And the numbers are great.
 
felicity said:
i suppose it would be a silly argument if i didn't know what i was talking about.

Var costs roughly $5600 from a shit chinese source and up to $10,000 from a reliable, good one. Lets take the $10,000 figure.

1kg= 1,000,000mg
1,000,000 mg = 20,000 (50mg) tablets
50 tablets per pack @ $150 per package
= $60,000 in sales.

Thanks, that was fun. :rolleyes:
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boom! School is now in sesion
 
I have to add brewing you're own so far I've brewed primo and anavar having amazing results.
not saying there isn't a chance of getting fake raws but I honestly think the chances are higher when you're paying a raw company $250 for. 10 grams is the going rate that's alot of bottles and if even undersides you can udjust so far .
I know there's good raws here at forum goodluck. I just think there's hope when we do the work and I'm sure there is honest sources serving primo and anavar. ya in the 90s I did Mexico anavar wow had a medicine smell even outside the bottle. and did Bayer primo pills I won a contest thanks to them.
things change I don't know how potent purity is probably changes all the time but I believe its out there in raw form at this forum. hope I didn't seem argumentive I just want people to realize itsvout there don't just pass it up

caveman72 using not abusing
 
I have used some of the best UGL var out there , including AY , I just don't think everyone responds to it the same , I think it is somewhat over hyped or at very least a misunderstood compound..similar to Masteron , I'd say results vary greatly dependent upon your starting point.. BF% etc...I think people who use it with unrealistic goals and expectations are always going to cry bunk/under-dosed...personally, I have had a harder time finding quality dbol than any other oral by far...I have been burned countless times just trying to find the UGL equivalent of the naps and thais and reforvit-b I used in the 90's.
 
clydefrog said:
I have used some of the best UGL var out there , including AY , I just don't think everyone responds to it the same , I think it is somewhat over hyped or at very least a misunderstood compound..similar to Masteron , I'd say results vary greatly dependent upon your starting point.. BF% etc...I think people who use it with unrealistic goals and expectations are always going to cry bunk/under-dosed...personally, I have had a harder time finding quality dbol than any other oral by far...I have been burned countless times just trying to find the UGL equivalent of the naps and thais and reforvit-b I used in the 90's.
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Fuck dude, ay var is like the holy grail. I've got two bottles I'm saving for a special occasion.
 
I wasn't talking bad about AY Var!...god strike me dead if I did...I just think some people have unrealistic expectations about Var in general...i.e. being a lean muscle gainer/fat lose oral, with little to no side effects...just sayin;) PS. i use AY "xxxAgent" for my special occasions!
 
clydefrog said:
I wasn't talking bad about AY Var!...god strike me dead if I did...I just think some people have unrealistic expectations about Var in general...i.e. being a lean muscle gainer/fat lose oral, with little to no side effects...just sayin;) PS. i use AY "xxxAgent" for my special occasions!
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I'd only use that if I had to drill a hole into the earth, my wife can't handle it as is, with that stuff I'd blow her in half.
 
LOL..i am guessing you've never had the dreaded "deca dick" ...wait don't answer , I might be forced into revealing more embarrassing details!
 
clydefrog said:
LOL..i am guessing you've never had the dreaded "deca dick" ...wait don't answer , I might be forced into revealing more embarrassing details!
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I've had low libido before but it was because I nuked my estro with letro. I don't really get ed side effects except for when I've got extremely low estrogen. Sucks balls too because I'm also gyno prone, so I've got to do a fucking dance to keep my estro low but not TOO low. I'll do letro a few days then aromasin then nothing and rinse-repeat.
 
there is no blanket statement and it will offend a lot of great UGL's who take pride in quality gear. I can tell you straight up that great gear still exists. I can also say you cant compare what happened in the 80's to right now. there is such a huge difference when it comes to growth in the human body. Half the npc competitor population of today could easily be ifbb pro or Olympia qualified back then.

I invest my money in quality therefore never see even the remote possibility of the problems you brought up.
 
Idk about everyone else.....but I ran a cycle of BD anavar at 75mg daily and it blew me away......
I've never experienced anything as powerful....

Constant pump, like the strongest pump ever.....
Vascularity...
Insane strength gains...
Always dry regardless of diet...
Fat loss without calorie reduction or cardio
Insane stamina in the gym, I'd have to stop my workouts only because I'd get bored.....

Some people tell me it had to be other compound mixed together and persented as Var, no way was it var....

But idk what the hell else it could of been

I've been chasing that feeling ever since
 
boybravo said:
Idk about everyone else.....but I ran a cycle of BD anavar at 75mg daily and it blew me away......
I've never experienced anything as powerful....

Constant pump, like the strongest pump ever.....
Vascularity...
Insane strength gains...
Always dry regardless of diet...
Fat loss without calorie reduction or cardio
Insane stamina in the gym, I'd have to stop my workouts only because I'd get bored.....

Some people tell me it had to be other compound mixed together and persented as Var, no way was it var....

But idk what the hell else it could of been

I've been chasing that feeling ever since
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Wow sounds like the shizznit were can I get some ?who was BD British dragon?
 
Fisherman1700 said:
Wow sounds like the shizznit were can I get some ?who was BD British dragon?
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Lol wish I still had it available to me.....

I've seen fake BD also....

What was different about these were, they're insanely thin.....like iver never seen any pills this small....tiny orange squares that were thin as paper.....BD on one side, 50 on the other
 
No longer around but ProLine was a UGL and I went from flat stomach with outline of abs to veins in my abs in two weeks at 30mg... was amazing. Wishing I had the money back then to buy a few thousand as 200 didn't last long enough.
 
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